[00:05:57] @redmin0 have a moment? [01:58:25] How long does it usually take for wiki requests to be accepted or declined? [02:07:19] [1/2] Trying to get a color-assigning template to identify a plain link or abbreviated link; no luck. Anyone know how I can have this both assign color correctly while working as an interwiki link (preferably without the mouseover showing as "w:article") [02:07:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200260653575831614/image.png?ex=65c588d7&is=65b313d7&hm=3e67698f8ee132ab49e1c9d45604c42ef5b6aa521c6ac3744a19dee8900ea420& [02:10:43] I have a thread in #support and was told it might be better to ask out here. [02:29:00] Anonymous: a few hours is a good bet, can be more or less depending who's on at a given time [03:27:27] Hello [03:30:50] <.labster> Welcome @texline666 [03:32:19] Hi. I'm seeking to get the Advance Wars and Battalion Wars Wikias off of Fandom. Fandom's draconian enforcement and general interference is simply too much especially when they are indirectly aiding a sexual assailant and his enablers as a result. [03:33:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze [03:34:19] Ah, I had already filed a request. [03:35:27] That page is mainly about the steps after on how to move all the content over [03:36:12] I'm just waiting for someone to check the steward requests I made [03:36:12] The actual wiki request you just have to wait, for a wiki creator to see it and approve it [03:38:26] I hope you mean wiki request? While stewards do a lot of things, creating the actual wiki's is not one of them, that is handled by the wiki creators specifically, via the wiki requests [03:41:40] [1/2] No, I mean something else. I did request a wiki entitled "Encyclopedia Aquabania", which would have covered the Aquabats and their work (including Yo Gabba Gabba!), but was declined because somebody else created a wiki called "Gabbaverse Wiki", which primarily focused on Yo Gabba Gabba!. I made two requests; one to promote myself to bureaucrat, and another [03:41:40] [2/2] to demote the old bureaucrat, due to there being no activity at all since December 8. [03:42:10] I plan on revamping the wiki to Encyclopedia Aquabania, and putting more focus on the Aquabats, [03:49:36] <.labster, replying to texline666> I can't give you a good estimate on how long that will take. A lot of effort is going into moving servers right now, and a lot of our Stewards also work on the backend of the site. This sounds like a good approach, if you have a nearly inactive wiki. Have you tried contacting the old bureaucrat about this? [03:50:39] speaking of migrating, I've started moving the dbs over [03:50:44] it'll take around 2 days or so [03:50:57] db142 is the slowest (of course) and might take 4 days [04:38:28] where is miraheze migrating to [04:41:49] new servers in the US [04:45:29] ah ok [05:07:36] so basically everything in stevenage's geting decomissioned? [06:37:18] I concur with @notaracham that I probably wouldn't approve [06:44:09] what if just limit w/ footer and main page notes that the wiki is run by you (the supplier) + link [07:13:02] is there going to be read-only period on actual switch? [07:13:23] Not sure [07:13:46] if there is a read-only period, it'd be maybe 15-30 minutes just to ensure both databases are synced? [07:14:02] last time we had a 30 minute read-only period to ensure consistency [07:14:19] Well there seems to be no response for a while on my importdump request [07:14:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImportDumpQueue/623 [07:15:32] Do I have to wait until the maintainence period ends? [07:16:40] It was 8 [07:16:55] lets see if we can beat that record [07:17:01] How did you all migrate databases last time? [07:17:07] They'll have to be some read only period. It'll be as short as possible. [07:17:18] Initial import and then start replication [07:17:28] You'll need to make sure you've preserved binlogs [07:17:36] good to know [07:17:48] We're following the instructions on [[Tech:MariaDB]] [07:17:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:MariaDB [07:17:49]

[07:17:51] And then set replication to the point the dump was taken from [07:18:31] Yes they are correct [07:18:46] It's not as painfully slow as I imagined [07:18:48] I'd like to have 0 but we probably will need ~5 minutes or so [07:18:48] I've not tested them but the principle seems correct so it should work [07:19:08] Replication should be within seconds [07:19:25] So it mostly depends on how quick you can confirm stuff are definitely alive [07:19:34] We're at 23GB/120GB exported in 5 hours which isn't terrible [07:19:44] And how long it takes for puppet to switch which servers you are running too [07:19:56] In the cache proxies [07:20:12] Because mediawiki doesn't take long to deploy [07:20:28] I already have something prepared for that and can be done within like 2 minutes probably [07:20:42] hi everyone, how to add other permissions (like patroller, autopatroller, rollbacker...) on Miraheze? a:conan: [07:20:55] Once DBs finish we should be able to switch backends over [07:21:54] [1/2] to create new user groups go to Manage this wiki's permissions admin menu [07:21:54] [2/2] to assign group to a user, go to their page and there should be additional sidebar w/ actions on users [07:22:27] [1/2] SRE gets to import dumps requests whenever they have time [07:22:28] [2/2] what happened to previous one? [07:22:31] oh thanks [07:25:26] the previous one failed on half of the process [07:25:58] cause the wiki reset make everything reverted, including the extension settings\ [07:26:15] so TemplateStyles is not enabled at that time [07:26:33] thankfully it doesn't break the format this time [07:26:44] you started the wiki, made settings, import failed, settings got reset? [07:26:58] you are migrating from self-host? [07:27:11] nope [07:27:22] originally start from miraheze [07:27:30] then imported dump on the localhost [07:27:44] then exported the new dump [07:28:09] and at last import it back to miraheze\ [07:30:14] and for the first question the answer is that I totally made two requests [07:30:42] the first one failed and broke the text format (css -> text) [07:31:13] so Reception123 said it would be better to reset the wiki than try something to fix the format [07:36:31] reception, are you here? [07:38:53] @reception123 [07:39:00] That won't work [07:39:34] I'm here yeah. I'm currently trying to import again [07:40:42] I still feel bad about pinging people lol [07:43:55] You shouldn't feel bad about pinging individuals when they're online [07:44:04] Whole groups - yes think about it [07:44:13] Individuals offline - yes think about it [07:44:24] Individuals asleep - think a lot about it [08:11:59] Did you guys ever fix the issue with the meta site? [08:12:07] With the broken capta system? [08:15:37] pretty sure it was fixed [08:57:54] That's nice. [09:02:40] hey [09:02:58] i want to move a fandom wiki i found to my miraheze wiki [09:03:00] just for fun [09:03:20] [1/2] the wiki is called super wario bros. [09:03:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200365343827304530/superwariobros_pages_full.xml?ex=65c5ea57&is=65b37557&hm=67e0b2ce00ea80265bd889f825c10e2d518792a70bda431551511b6a75d7cc69& [09:05:21] [1/2] It's easier to copy the source page from the wiki than from this file. [09:05:22] [2/2] Just go to "view source" or "edit" [09:05:33] nono [09:05:43] i want to move the entire wiki to my [09:06:08] you need page histories because wiki licensing is a big deal [09:06:13] o [09:06:35] but how do i import a dump of the wiki to miraheze [09:06:40] but I haven't encountered cases of importing a whole wiki to already established wiki [09:06:51] this is da dump [09:07:02] it isn't really stablished [09:07:13] https://superwariobros.miraheze.org [09:07:16] there are two ways - requestimport on Meta or Phabricator [09:07:29] i have done it [09:07:33] again - make sure that edit histories are uncluded in the dump [09:07:39] ok [09:07:42] then wait [09:07:53] and be patient 😄 [09:07:55] but i didn't have any answer [09:08:04] yet [09:08:06] when you submitted? [09:09:12] i have done it a while ago [09:09:23] [1/2] the file is very big [09:09:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200366867626344560/superwariobros_pages_full.xml?ex=65c5ebc2&is=65b376c2&hm=e4aef53f879f6ca6344192d95c9dfe7d39738b111727f59478c2030a1963d063& [09:09:48] why you keep attaching it here [09:09:56] nobody takes files from discord [09:09:58] o [09:10:03] ok [09:10:04] I said [09:10:18] two places to request import [09:10:23] alr [09:10:29] where you've done yours? [09:10:43] my wiki? [09:10:55] dude [09:11:05] in met [09:11:34] but i didn't have any answer yet [09:11:40] no notifications [09:13:09] did you even succeed to submit the dump on Special:RequestImportDump? [09:13:35] yes [09:14:16] also i have RE-submitted another form [09:14:20] right now [09:14:52] dude, it says import is done [09:14:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImportDumpQueue?sort=request_timestamp&limit=1000&asc=&desc=1&requester=&status=%2A&target= [09:15:10] WHAT [09:15:17] 😄 [09:15:33] thats weird [09:15:39] my wiki hasn't the contents [09:15:42] of the fandom wiki [09:16:27] something went wrong! [09:16:40] 😠 [09:18:06] [1/2] the only new page is this: [09:18:06] [2/2] https://superwariobros.miraheze.org/wiki/Super_Wario_Bros. [09:18:38] did you requested new dump on fandom? [09:18:42] no [09:18:44] maybe you got old version [09:18:49] i don't [09:18:50] which had only one page [09:18:56] i have seen the file in notepad [09:18:59] it has all pages [09:19:25] only admins can create new dumps, otherwise you'll have to ask Fandom support to update it [09:19:40] oh [09:20:01] but this is weird [09:20:07] the dump i have has all pages [09:20:11] i seen it [09:20:23] why there's only one new page on MY wiki [09:20:29] maybe wrong file? [09:20:40] try to submit again, I guess [09:20:47] i have already [09:20:49] it is pending [09:21:52] i'll wait [09:37:04] [1/2] Technically, can create a permission to just add comments to the RequestWikiQueue? [09:37:04] [2/2] My idea is to give this permission to trusted users to assist requestors. Might as well give it to a non-English request translator [09:39:51] does that means we should actually patrol import requests? [09:42:34] [1/3] oops [09:42:34] [2/3] nothing to do with the topic above [09:42:34] [3/3] WikiQueue [09:49:39] interesting thought, I think that might risk a 'too many cooks' situation [09:50:09] on the other hand what might be interesting is having an emeritus/advisor system for miraheze spaces so trusted others can opine on those subjects ie, wiki requests and even cvt ops [09:50:36] so if a wiki creator brings something odd in to review both the wc team and advisors can take a look [09:51:26] sre might consider the same if they want to bring in people with useful technical insights but who may not be ready or willing to go all in on the rights [10:00:33] ah my bad [10:01:29] na, it was a bit out of nowhere following the import discussion [10:03:17] Question: are the missing files going to ersolve themselves down the line, or do I need to manually upload my backup versions when I see missing images? [10:03:32] resolve themselves [10:03:35] Nice, thanks [10:03:43] yeah, there is no actual loss [10:44:19] [1/2] I think you're absolutely right. Multiple people commenting on a single queue may confuse the requester [10:44:19] [2/2] So... I'm thinking of something that can only be acted upon under limited circumstances. Multilingual support is the main example [10:44:42] and I should have included a clear delineation. Sorry Legroom [10:57:01] [1/2] wow nice idea [10:57:01] [2/2] It is good that many people's thinking is being sought [10:58:11] virtually every major public incident I can think of has been caused by communication failures and actions done without consultation [11:34:31] Hello. Is there a way to add geojson files to miraheze? [11:37:20] you want them to function or just store? [12:32:59] Is there any way to add HTML for page top of all pages? [13:05:35] js [13:06:05] if you mean like inject custom HTML into wiki's base code [15:38:49] fav icon not loading [15:38:50] fav icon [15:38:53] - [15:38:56] FAVICON* [15:43:57] [1/2] #announcements [15:43:57] [2/2] images, including favicon, may be a bit wonky because of the server migration [15:51:31] 👍🏾 [16:30:18] i can upload files now for some reason [16:30:34] they’ll load so now the only image that’s not loading is my fav icon [16:50:02] can be cache thing, either wiki's or your browser's [17:24:56] shouldn't we translate server notice too? [17:25:08] Okay, i'm authorized. I have to go back to work but I will be back to get what I need [17:29:09] hmm? [17:35:23] noticed there's no usual "translate this" button lol [17:36:27] russian guy yesterday asked what's w/ files 3 times until I explained in russian [17:37:36] in other news, wooo 29% [17:38:27] ah [17:38:53]