[00:04:03] LocalSettings is not front-end accessible [00:04:04] [1/2] how can i remove this bar from my main page? [00:04:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200954410461822976/image.png?ex=65c80ef4&is=65b599f4&hm=556c4022df2c99d295a809e16006318e00a897d639bb1cc7d03645d32786143c& [00:04:41] that just looks like incomplete css customization, since it's all white by default [00:04:57] That stinks. That's the exact file I need. [00:04:59] <.labster, replying to chufffgames> Looks like CSS overflow [00:05:07] <.labster> Maybe shrink the content [00:05:07] I wonder if there is another extension then [00:05:26] [1/6] Here's the code [00:05:26] [2/6] "#content { background-color: #ffebd6; } [00:05:26] [3/6] #mw_content { background-color: #ffebd6; } [00:05:27] [4/6] #mw-head-base { background-color: #e8ccae; } [00:05:27] [5/6] #p-logo { background-color: #e8ccae; } [00:05:27] [6/6] body { background-color: #e8ccae; }" [00:07:07] I am trying to import Module:Documentation/styles.css into my wiki, but the Lua error "unexpected symbol '.' near 'documentation'" keeps being given at line 1. Any solutions? It works just fine on other wikis [00:07:24] Maybe try defining a color for .mw-page-container-inner [00:08:46] Never mind, I figured it out. The page has to be imported, not copied. This is for anyone having the same problem [00:11:25] [1/2] do you all know what may be causing this? [00:11:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200956260237971517/image.png?ex=65c810ad&is=65b59bad&hm=0b1d5a2a84deb84856bc031a55619f3040c8bb20742b404d7064a4072e31d358& [00:12:35] for context, I'm trying to upload a font (that I converted from TTF → WOFF) onto the sona.pona.la wiki. if 'bug in the software' means that the file is broken, then maybe it's the conversion step? [00:12:38] not sure [00:13:00] <.labster> That can't be a bug on your side, that's a Mediawiki error [00:14:01] <.labster> @juwan. can you make a thread in #support ? [00:14:21] ahh sure [00:16:14] #Upload issues: "Wikipeda\Rdbms\DBQueryError" [00:19:24] …which can only be done by admins, and the only admin/bureaucrat has not responded to me and has been MIA since December 8. I'll have to wait before my request gets approved; in the meantime, I will work on the pages. [00:19:41] Would it be alright for me to request the SimpleBatchUpload extension on Phabricator? [00:33:04] MsUpload just doesn't work because it doesn't let you make a file description [00:52:32] Can somebody show me where I can request to close a wiki? [00:53:32] Prob [[SN]] [00:53:32] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [00:53:33] [00:54:06] Thank you. [00:58:01] It wasn't. [00:58:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200967990703829042/image.png?ex=65c81b99&is=65b5a699&hm=c4c1d9f4a3a7f30ea0974716e360bd61c4d27652c8429cdfd89432e7385cd5b7& [00:58:07] How is this still an issue!? [00:59:15] [1/2] small question, is there a way to add the UploadWizard to the sidebar tools here [00:59:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200968297726873670/image.png?ex=65c81be3&is=65b5a6e3&hm=443241105288a7e16ed8076df6076f5ef1ab24ae4ddf33585985193628d1b530& [00:59:31] wait no [00:59:36] [1/2] this one [00:59:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200968384075010068/image.png?ex=65c81bf7&is=65b5a6f7&hm=97d492da74e2d6ff8f52e133d69f6d44d8a53c622177ddb01d341eb23f2b1968& [01:16:59] MediaWiki:Sidebar [01:17:54] Just copy the link to the upload wizzard [01:20:14] Special:UploadWizard | Upload Wizard [01:20:24] Here you go [01:20:39] ahh [01:21:39] Was just thinking about adding it to my own 😄 [01:22:43] oh sorry not the sidebar [01:22:50] the tools on the [01:22:53] ,,other side [01:23:19] Ohw [01:24:31] [1/4] You can place it there under [01:24:31] [2/4] * Tools [01:24:31] [3/4]  Special:UploadWizard | Upload Wizard [01:24:32] [4/4] Or you can add it to your personal "vector-2022.js" via a script. [01:24:49] hm [01:24:56] TOOLBOOK or what [01:27:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200975302558498916/image.png?ex=65c82269&is=65b5ad69&hm=cfa31d0b8418384cc98c8eb45ccec62b0e7afda2d51d3723525d4d2afde9eb06& [01:27:11] [1/2] or ?? [01:27:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200975325878833272/image.png?ex=65c8226e&is=65b5ad6e&hm=cbfb0bbed2f272b74a8863cc4ecfcce4f2ec3d306ca59fd752c707a8e64ccab9& [01:27:32] awaawawaa [01:27:41] Yup that do it too [01:28:02] It takes a while for it to be recognized (Cache [01:28:19] <.labster, replying to juwan.> I don’t know enough toki pona to translate this word [01:28:30] jfsdkflsdjf [01:28:34] it's just a keysmash [01:28:36] silly [01:28:37] The system cache [01:28:46] now I'm curious [01:28:48] what TOOLBOX [01:28:53] or why are these capitalised [01:29:59] They're recognized like that. Don't know why that is either, but it's been like that a long time maybe forever [01:30:10] since time immemorial, got it [01:30:27] <.labster> For hysterical raisins [01:30:43] [1/2] aaa [01:30:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200976215297753208/image.png?ex=65c82342&is=65b5ae42&hm=f7843c769bbeb00f4cdaa52b224ba7348f047ab617247ac5f918d2362ac3656a& [01:30:54] okay. so. [01:31:00] my plan is [01:31:29] replacing the 'Upload file' link under General with `Special:UploadWizard|Upload file` [01:31:36] ,how [01:31:40] without breaking it [01:32:28] General is a system box. I have no Idea how to edit that [01:32:38] :despair: [01:32:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200976779515527319/image.png?ex=65c823c9&is=65b5aec9&hm=c3e9621002870af5cfda93817af5bc160f408c07051fe403ece10c6e2b33fc06& [01:33:10] <.labster> Just use a mess of JavaScript, that always works [01:33:21] ← knows no JS [01:33:23] What you see here, is what I did with JavaScript [01:33:29] ← absolute fool [01:33:29] Hang n... [01:33:45] fjsdlfs [01:34:18] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Rodejong/vector-2022.js [01:34:49] I see [01:35:30] so then [01:35:33] @.hecko hi [01:35:44] I know it's probably like 3 a.m. but :> [01:36:47] [1/2] // Adds a link to prefix index for the current page to the toolbox [01:36:47] [2/2] mw.util.addPortletLink('p-tb', '/wiki/Special:UploadWizard/' + mw.config.get('wgPageName'), '📚​⇒UploadWizard', 'tb-uploadwizard', 'UploadWizard', null, document.getElementById('t-uploadwizard') || document.getElementById('t-upload') ); [01:37:15] Put that in User:Juwan/vector-2022.js [01:37:23] But!!!! [01:37:28] but !! [01:37:33] won't that only be for one person [01:37:34] This is only visible for you [01:37:38] Yes [01:37:38] despair [01:38:02] I've never tried it in MediaWiki:common.js [01:38:08] But you can try [01:38:21] That is for everyone [01:38:27] try it!! [01:38:34] Hang on [01:38:36] go wild [01:41:53] I've temporarily added confirmed user status to allow bypass of captcha requirements [01:42:18] Our SRE team just finished up an emergency migration, but I'll get this added to investigate once things are freed up. [01:44:37] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [01:44:59] Can you see it? [01:45:07] (screenshot would be nice [01:46:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200980063273885726/image.png?ex=65c826d8&is=65b5b1d8&hm=bd6a1739cbfb616b6336fc2400936c7839f90c36c22255f1b24460652eede4af& [01:47:57] Oh, you tried to request from a different account this time. [01:48:04] One second [01:48:28] Alright, there we go. [01:52:04] @sunghersong, can you give it another shot when you have a moment? You should now be cleared to bypass captcha [01:52:22] Alright, thank you. [01:53:33] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200981961255170159/image.png?ex=65c8289c&is=65b5b39c&hm=cab09a4ded953b04fdee82d98cc7879b2b2038dc5f370e0a6d890d65718ff8f4& [01:53:36] Thank you. 💜 [01:53:48] I had a different account, and when I tried to sign in, it wouldn't let me. [01:54:03] I ALWAYS seem to have issues logging into MediaWiki sites. [01:54:14] Every time I get logged out of one, I have to reset my password. [01:54:35] Yikes! Sorry to hear that, I've confirmed all the needed details on our side and processed your request. [01:54:39] I set up a new wiki yesterday, and when I tried to sign in, it kept saying wrong pass. [01:54:44] I has to use the terminal to reset it. [01:55:57] [1/2] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:55:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200982566434521179/image.png?ex=65c8292d&is=65b5b42d&hm=86206092c253195571e15aa1c326d556ada32f0a3519a94d3a71d7694a44e537& [01:56:32] .js, goes in General [01:56:36] sorry for the late responses, I'm going to bed rn :> [01:57:05] enjpy your jsing [01:57:13] 🙂 [01:57:24] I'll remove the icon [01:57:29] Looks better [02:01:01] I'm off to bed to [02:01:06] Night night [02:01:20] 🛌 [02:07:27] [1/3] I'm following the steps in this guide https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox but the result is completely different [02:07:27] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200985459434717215/image.png?ex=65c82bde&is=65b5b6de&hm=96ecdf4dc5724176f3f7455900e6da81e7b5a1335de2578cb691bb3439081959& [02:07:27] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200985459690590278/image.png?ex=65c82bde&is=65b5b6de&hm=e81c6314e6401e5b37fc3638ddd0dd1f8bb700ec9c2a8206fa393ab12d1a7066& [02:10:22] finally [02:11:07] l can edit now [02:34:53] I'll help the first 10 people interested on how to start earning $100k within 72hours, but you will reimburse me 10% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or  send me a dm!  ask me HOW! Or contact me on WhatsApp +1(508) 214‑8755 [02:35:33] @Discord Moderators [02:35:36] @Discord Moderators @Discord Administrators [02:37:09] Was going to handle, but Zppix beat me to it [02:39:59] Hi all - just a note: if someone has already pinged moderators or admins (it really only needs to be moderators pinged), there is no need for repitition. One ping is definitely enough. [02:40:51] And it also really only needs to happen in one channel [02:41:40] i think both me and blake sent that at the same time [02:41:51] so it wasn't purposely pinged twice [02:46:54] Yep, seconds apart, all good. [02:48:08] 👍 [03:01:06] [1/2] er [03:01:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1200998961595555840/image.png?ex=65c83871&is=65b5c371&hm=08f45859abbd254401bbd68309b65f338bdb3b3445893b18f2503aa5251f84cd& [03:01:34] is this a one off or another issue with the databases? [03:02:15] seems to be fine now at least [03:04:36] somone hel pme [03:06:13] if it only happened once then it's probably nothing but if it's consistently giving that error then there's probably some issue [03:06:32] yeah it seems to be a one off, just got a little spooked [03:10:24] so does this mean migration is completely done? [03:10:32] bcuz i thought it would be 4+weeks until completion [03:10:40] not complaining just confused :droidcry: [03:11:55] mediawiki migration is complete but file migration is not [03:12:26] and iirc the file migration is what will take a few weeks [03:13:59] so is it safe to upload files [03:14:19] cause i've been uploading files ever since they came back up like 2-ish days ago [03:14:22] No worries. We thought everything all together would take around a month because the disks were so slow but yesterday, a database went out with a bang so we were forced to migrate databases early. We finished that but image migration is still going on [03:14:28] It should finish in maybe a day or two? [03:14:39] It's going pretty fast now that we removed databases from the old servers [03:14:43] Yes [03:14:56] okayy ty [03:45:06] what are the limits of custom CSS on Miraheze wikis? Like, can it change everything, or are there limits on what cannot be custom styled? [03:47:30] as long as it doesn't violate any content policy it should be fine [03:49:08] okay, thank you 😄 [03:49:20] My wiki submission was rejected because i said it was "in the style of wikipedia" because appearently thats "Direct forks and forks where a substantial amount of content is copied from a Wikimedia project" [03:49:23] Like you fr? [03:50:20] I never said I would steal content from wikipedia [03:50:33] I just said it was "like wikipedia" in the idea of you can look up a page and read it. [03:50:43] I've imported an infobox but it is not becoming a box [03:51:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201011526358802532/image.png?ex=65c84425&is=65b5cf25&hm=570e267f4d642f453fe360135a697533fef8337dfaf5b4e287526a52b521674c& [03:54:12] it looks like a box, just doesn't have css styling [03:55:49] so ... like a wiki? i think all wikis have search functions like this, so "like wikipedia" doesnt describe your intent clearly here [03:56:01] Yeah, I admitted it I worded it wrong, lmfao. [03:56:08] And they still had it rejected. [03:56:11] i see how it can be taken a different way yeap [03:56:31] how do i do this? [03:56:37] anyone knows another solution? i've tried shrinking the content [03:57:52] [[Infoboxes#Styling]] [03:57:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes#Styling [03:57:53] [03:59:40] its gotta be your content width is too long for your viewport to handle it. i dont think overriding it with something like `overflow:hidden` would help the main problem [04:01:00] thanks [04:11:46] [1/2] You gotta give reason why it isn't "like wikipedia". [04:11:46] [2/2] Getting rejected isn't the end. [04:13:28] "Forking" from Wikipedia and similar with no meaningful changes can get rejected [04:13:48] Is it possible some files got lost during the move earlier or is stuff still "warming up" [04:14:13] Nope, all files uploaded before are secure [04:14:20] no files should be lost; anything that doesn't display or says "File not found" will show up later [04:14:30] ok [04:14:59] ^If you found a "File not found", report it so someone can move missing files to the new wiki [04:15:40] Files are in old drives for sometime until likely no one report missing files [04:15:54] The images I was just talking about showed up, I guess later is now [04:16:26] ones that say file not found is because the files are still being transfered [04:16:27] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1199819866270609448 [04:16:53] if they say that for a long period of time should be reported though [04:17:52] [1/2] There's a case where files got ghosted after being transferred before. [04:17:53] [2/2] I got 1 of these case [04:18:22] yeh that's why i said this [04:18:41] wait a while and if it doesn't come back then there's something wrong [04:18:47] shit i didnt get it [04:20:48] portableinfoboxes is enabled and the infobox is built correctly right? [04:22:39] yes i think [04:25:22] like the page says you should poke around with inspect element , also look at other wikis to see how they styled their infoboxes to get an idea how to do it yourself [04:25:43] [1/2] that is one strange deletion message [04:25:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201020255875641405/image.png?ex=65c84c46&is=65b5d746&hm=c8316e6d264d311ccd277310014280956a5893095e827125d66c618750bbf1bd& [04:26:05] seems to have deleted it anyway even though an error appeared [04:30:51] <.labster> Sounds like cosmic rays hit Swift. [04:31:10] <.labster> It would be about par for the course this week. [04:32:48] fuck i got it [04:32:48] @rosenrot076 Watch your language. [04:32:53] sorry [04:33:33] thanks for the help [04:38:10] :pinecone_thumbsup: [04:44:23] actually, that's to be expected [04:44:33] while Swift recalculates file hashes, the file will appear missing [04:44:51] The Miraheze logo appeared missing for a few hours until it got fixed [04:46:25] yeah i also saw some images on miraheze.org not display but they do now [05:17:09] I have set `$wgAllowExternalImages` from the wiki's additional settings to `true` but it doesn't work. Can anyone help me? [05:18:18] It still doesn't allow external images to be rendered inline with text. [05:20:40] if the url of the image is not in the CSP then it will not load [05:21:43] but if it's still just a link and not an unloaded image then it's a different issue [05:25:52] Can you explain a bit more? What is the CSP? [05:26:33] [1/2] content security policy [05:26:34] [2/2] a whitelist for certain domains and it rejects loading any file from a domain not on that list [05:27:06] OK, so how do I edit the Content Security Policy for my wiki? [05:27:38] (it's for my Miraheze wiki, not meta) [05:27:49] you would have to request it to be reviewed by making a [[Phabricator]] request [05:27:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [05:27:49] [05:30:16] [1/2] OK, thanks. [05:30:16] [2/2] Feedback: Consider adding this somewhere on Meta. It's not very clear and a bit counter-intuitive for some wiki administrators, like me. I kept Googling for some time and nothing was working. [05:51:11] Also, can you please send me the URL link for the whitelisted domains in the Content Security Policy? [05:55:21] https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/master/modules/varnish/data/csp.yaml [07:17:36] Sorry for the confusion, the challenge is a bit more nuanced than that. I've replied to your new request with additional questions that should hopefully get us to a final decision for you. [07:45:19] omg its so fast now [07:51:11] I must say, I quite like this new speed! Praise be to all Miraheze workers that made it possible. [08:16:16] god [08:16:45] i can't login because of the god damn migration [08:18:00] Shouldn't be a migration issue, are you encountering a particular problem? [08:19:44] i'm sending a password reset and im not getting an email [08:21:57] Thanks, pinging @Site Reliability Engineers to investigate when one has a moment. [08:22:41] pretty sure i attached an email [08:25:24] Yeah, if you've got an email attached, it could be a configuration issue on our end. [08:25:54] Actually, I can rule that out quickly, one moment [08:27:21] Yep, able to reproduce with a known good account, I'll raise this w/ the appropriate folks. [08:33:50] Could you provide your username, if it's not too much trouble? [08:34:00] same as here, Arslan35 [08:39:15] Thanks, at this point we'll need to wait for SRE team to look into it, I've got two flavors of issues reported now. [08:39:46] i'm hoping it's not an issue with my email [09:12:03] The RSS feed is still not working. Any more info on why? [09:30:04] We know why. Connectivity issues between us and Amazon Web Services. Not sure if @agentisai / @paladox have reached out. [09:30:54] ah okay. Then I'll be patiently waiting 🙂 [09:31:32] Thanks for the answer [14:03:44] NEVERMIND [14:03:47] I REMEMBERED MY PASSWORD [14:03:47] FUCK YEAH [14:04:41] sorry that because of me site reliability engineers got pinged [14:05:16] email confirmed and now im safe [15:59:10] I guess I was one of the lucky ones to be in the initial move of our wikis to the USA server. I think. Because my site is humming, fast page loads, images are working, I couldn't be more happier. Whatever Miraheze and WikiTide are doing, keep it up! And, THANK YOU! [16:10:33] Love ur pfp btw [16:10:35] Super silly [16:11:58] for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi [16:11:59] and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to [16:11:59] free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as [16:12:00] possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and [16:12:00] die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas [16:12:01] for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi [16:12:02] and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to [16:12:02] free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as [16:12:03] possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas for yamlafuck pooyo and deepfuckfuck to jump off a bridge and [16:12:03] die as soon as possible and to free skiyomi and other ltas [16:12:35] @Discord Moderators Someone spammed on the IRC [16:17:08] Spammer is now dead [16:18:09] Cc @blakeishere [16:18:17] Thank you [16:20:04] @blakeishere I've asked the network ops why the spam bot is being dumb [16:20:37] He’s taking after @WikiAuthBot [16:28:13] @serverlessharej, hi, the draft CP mentions that "fanon and fan-fiction content" wikis should be rejected. Why? And how should Wiki Creators handle these wikis for now? [16:28:57] the what [16:29:00] it's in the "additional scrutiny" list which does not mean automatic rejection nor does it mean deleting existing wikis. I would follow existing policy until a new policy is adopted [16:29:11] what's a Wiki Creator btw [16:29:43] in terms of the role [16:30:09] Oh, so why are they being added now? [16:30:18] Someone who has permission to make wikis [16:30:22] I don’t remember the user right name [16:30:28] ah [16:30:31] But they look in request queue [16:30:35] Review requests [16:30:39] And accept or deny [16:30:49] [[Wiki Creator]] [16:30:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wiki_Creator [16:30:50] [16:31:40] There’s a Draft CP? [16:31:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Policy_updates_January_2024 [16:32:38] @serverlessharej ^ [16:32:45] what's a CP [16:32:54] copyright protection? [16:33:11] Content Policy [16:33:33] Content Policy, it's the policy that determines which wikis we allow on Miraheze [16:33:38] rejecting fanon content... [16:34:12] The community has, historically, received a lot of low-quality wiki applications of these types. The goal is to make sure they are bringing as few problems to Miraheze as possible. It is drafted to be voted on separately. [16:34:31] That's not the goal and I would appreciate if you did not spread rumors [16:34:43] i'm just saying what i read [16:34:58] but i'm glad it's not [16:35:15] Oh, so it's about requests, not wikis. Thanks for the clarification. [16:35:53] So the goal is to merge MH and WT CPs [16:36:07] I’ll give it a thorough read later, danke [16:36:30] what were the main differences between MH and WT again [16:36:57] Policy or? [16:37:00] iirc WT is more freedom but with plans (free and paid) [16:37:04] usage [16:37:07] No [16:37:20] You’re getting WikiTide and WikiForge confused [16:37:31] WikiTide is like Mira [16:37:35] Donation run [16:37:37] oh yeah WikiForge [16:37:55] WikiForge is separate in the legal and operational sense [16:37:56] There is no legal nor financial relationship between WikiTide and WikiForge [16:38:00] Ka [16:38:15] Pretty similar [16:38:23] I never used it personally [16:38:36] must've been pretty stable though [16:38:43] if MH is merging to not die [16:39:01] WikiTide was effectively a spin off anyway [16:39:11] It was operated by former Miraheze volunteers [16:39:20] And it was a fairly recent project [16:40:32] Responded [16:40:35] Merging back together restored a bridge that was mutually beneficial to all involved and ensured a united, strengthened goal allowing Miraheze to build on the lessons learnt from its errors and build on the technical challenges overcome by WikiTide's innovative approaches. [16:40:39] ** Warning: if there is any bot in #miraheze which should be exempted from ozone, voice it or contact staffers before it gets caught ** [16:40:56] Ozone woke up [16:41:04] Welcome back ozone [16:41:07] I invited it back [16:41:08] Isnt ozone the dude from the incredibles [16:41:30] MacFan4000: I asked Sario to tell it it's not allowed to leave [16:41:54] Hey that’s what my teacher said to me on Friday [16:41:59] Lmao [16:42:10] The goal basically is to merge the two content policies while giving the MH community the opportunity to vote on substantial changes that WT made [16:42:20] <_some_randomdude, replying to serverlessharej> is this draft in effect yet? [16:42:30] Including the additional scrutiny section which has no analog in current policy [16:42:35] It’s a draft so no [16:42:54] <_some_randomdude> yeah I had a feeling that was self explanatory but needed comfirmation [16:43:04] I was under the impression we would simply use Mira pols [16:43:35] Maybe you should focus on your education and not Miraheze [16:43:42] For now that’s true but we still need to merge the two farms together [16:43:57] Miraheze policies will be in effect until otherwise decided by the community [16:44:14] There is nothing stopping an RfC to change the policies, the same way it has been done in the past. [16:44:28] The community are being given the option to decide if they wish to to take on any portions of WikiTide policy [16:44:50] whats gun amp and gun boost skill id? [16:45:34] lol probably [16:45:34] @slippery_dave that doesn't seem Miraheze related [17:00:59] there's gonna be site notice when vote will start? [17:21:50] #offtopic [17:21:52] I think [17:23:01] If this is related to a specific wiki, we kindly request you to redirect your questions to their own discord. [17:26:07] guys he left [17:26:38] Thank you! I responded to your reply! [17:27:06] oh mb. Always hard to tell with whitenames [17:32:54] HOLY SHIT [17:32:57] that was fast [17:33:44] oh sick its done [17:33:45] I love miraheze! I love miraheze! :EpicFaceMH: [17:33:47] anything left? [17:34:15] Merging tide wikis back in [17:34:24] wow that migration was pretty swift [17:34:30] booooooo [17:35:00] it’s a MiraCle [17:35:25] Yep, this is the next step. [17:35:32] Wait a minute, I recognize you from the YAPms server! [17:35:41] Nah it's a brilliant SRE team [17:35:55] gotta go tru all files on my wikis [17:37:14] a MiraCulous SRE team [17:37:54] keeping tHeze wikis alive [17:38:25] hi! [17:38:52] I regret getting banned from the server now actually. [17:41:10] [1/2] sorry to ask again, but may I ask for SREs to help in this channel [17:41:10] [2/2] #Upload issues: "Wikipeda\Rdbms\DBQueryError" [17:41:36] @Site Reliability Engineers [17:42:14] ahh thx [17:43:11] [1/3] i donated to: [17:43:11] [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Fundraiser [17:43:12] [3/3] to celebrate Miraheze has stability and the servers and people are back at Miraheze. [17:44:34] Hey, glad to hear it! Can confirm that both issues with the form and email delivery are now resolved too, so hopefully it'll be a quicker process in the future as well, if it's ever needed. [17:45:49] Fantastic, thank you for your generosity! [17:47:18] i used to have the legacy donor role. We still have that one in the server? [17:50:42] [1/2] a bit of a dumb queustion but [17:50:42] [2/2] how do i assign bureaucrats [17:51:26] Special:UserRights [17:51:34] Assign with caution [17:51:40] Will, thank you! [17:53:36] It was deleted a while ago [17:53:42] Just donor now [17:55:56] Thanks for getting back to us, still an unanswered question from me on the request, but once we have an answer on that I can reach a decision. [17:56:03] the role "administrator" can be assigned and removed but you can't remove the bureaucrat role with the interface. Needs to talk to miraheze volunteer staff, so use the bureaucrat role with caution or create a new role with custom group rights [17:56:07] [1/2] I joined the board of the WikiTide Foundation last month, and I have to say I've been very impressed with the collaboration that has gone on to make this possible. This work started over a month ago and required a lot of people to get together, including people who were arguing with each other just months ago. This is the best outcome I could've hoped for and I'm really grate [17:56:07] [2/2] ful to the SREs who pulled it off. Migrating a production system to another continent while avoiding total downtime is already hard, and it's much harder when the old servers are actively dying and you can't push them too hard. This is an amazing outcome worth celebrating. [17:56:59] Also, is there a way to have different UI depending on if the user is using light or dark mode [17:57:12] 🥳 👍 [17:59:01] [1/3] yes. Is possible. You can customize user CSS and user JS javascript with user pages. [17:59:02] [2/3] Create a css or js file as a subpage of that user. [17:59:02] [3/3] Another idea is to install the extension to allow custom css and js for wiki groups, and the code will affect all people inside that wiki group [17:59:28] Nice! Thanks [18:01:03] [1/2] i don't remember the name of the extension but is one of these: [18:01:04] [2/2] [18:02:48] I am in the process of adding more to the reply at the moment [18:04:01] Is that better? [18:04:13] Taking a look, one second [18:04:21] Of course! ^^ [18:04:55] And done, enjoy your new wiki [18:05:10] Thank you! [18:05:58] Glad to be of help, thanks for bearing w/ the process. [18:12:34] Do y'all know how to set a custom domain for my wiki? I read the steps and I am a bit confused. [18:12:54] [[Custom domains]] [18:12:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains [18:13:09] basically buy a domain first [18:13:12] Done. [18:13:17] point it like it says there [18:13:22] [1/2] Is this how i am supposed to give people admin and stuff [18:13:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201228541728141342/image.png?ex=65c90e42&is=65b69942&hm=a85a3afe8e7a10223ba44f880043334d8cdd2f802752a898150365013d229085& [18:13:26] then open a phab task at [[Phabricator]] [18:13:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [18:13:48] Yes, however they will have had to visit your wiki first in order to grant rights. [18:13:55] aaaaa [18:14:09] [1/2] Is this corect? [18:14:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201228737509851176/image.png?ex=65c90e70&is=65b69970&hm=8a6d644dd73232fb49912d08067e1a83a74d7700e30367533ddc29611fb9e7e5& [18:14:11] correct* [18:14:20] One second. [18:14:26] Not quite [18:14:42] disable the proxy on the www subdomain and you're golden [18:15:16] From there you're a ticket at phabricator.miraheze.org away from getting the subdomain attached when an SRE member is free to do so [18:15:47] [1/2] This? [18:15:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201229149629599795/image.png?ex=65c90ed3&is=65b699d3&hm=ff215eb3244ceea838a4ffc4d77a14303984bc267e0545746ba5c3e38da20ea7& [18:16:03] yes [18:18:13] Might anyone be able to help me in #support? [18:19:26] [1/2] I am using CloudFlare, turned off the IP defense thingy, is this what I should put in, or is it wrong? [18:19:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201230062008152084/image.png?ex=65c90fac&is=65b69aac&hm=f04ef118d9f2895af8cba4f0f712b5463fe24f09b4a5b0b9a92df542982cd508& [18:20:22] the name should be a subdomain of your subdomain [18:20:29] for example www [18:20:47] Ah, kk. [18:21:00] [1/2] So this? [18:21:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201230464560660651/image.png?ex=65c9100c&is=65b69b0c&hm=048b9f77bf7f3f00564c54ae3124f3a863203384c8d48c16f74234dde1bd9301& [18:21:47] yes [18:22:08] Is that it? [18:22:10] Oh wait no [18:22:13] I gotta do the form right? [18:22:17] yep [18:22:26] kk, noted. [18:26:43] Is there any way to add an email to an account that already exists? [18:28:33] look for Email options on that account's Special:Preferences page [18:28:38] Kk [18:30:48] On the custom domain survey login, it says my account-connected gmail and my password are incorrect, despite me knowing for a fact they are correct. [18:31:13] send a screenshot pls [18:31:22] if it doesn't have sensitive stuff ofc [18:31:27] Give me a second. [18:31:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201233216426750052/image.png?ex=65c9129c&is=65b69d9c&hm=7af11eb89af7c4eea18b3869ee14a9b83b345c1c5fd7354aba017101288a268e& [18:32:17] Oh wait, are you trying to log into phabricator? [18:32:19] wrong form, click Login or register with MediaWiki at the bottom [18:32:24] OHHH [18:32:25] Okay [18:32:37] Yep, it does a kinda-sso in using Miraheze to authenticate [18:34:13] Done the survey. [18:34:16] Or the form [18:35:53] I forgot what it was called [18:36:06] WAIT [18:36:14] I messed up [18:36:24] take your time [18:36:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201234341980811384/image.png?ex=65c913a8&is=65b69ea8&hm=fba07107007ab262ebf0e81533ef44e8c7b3c0c5b4982ac5c447a5d1d649fdf4& [18:36:31] I forgot to replace that. [18:36:39] you can edit your task [18:36:40] Oh nevermind I can edit it. [18:36:41] Sorry. [18:36:55] Due to recent updates, do we still have to abide by Fair Dealings or is U.S. Fair Use the standard now? [18:38:37] Fair Use now [18:39:43] Special:Upload text was updated too [18:39:55] Sweet [18:40:33] idk tho, if I still should count Fair dealing on my wiki which is about artists from UK [18:40:39] :ThinkerMH: [18:41:16] also, I tried to ask permission from another photographer and got a no 🥲 [18:41:20] [1/2] Is this correct? [18:41:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201235579518582864/image.png?ex=65c914d0&is=65b69fd0&hm=e3b8e502eb89e9f3419cc73566f36e4f79018a0ea37ba9455d123ebf3eef2fd6& [18:41:30] Or do I need to upload a file? [18:41:39] uplaod [18:41:43] Kk [18:41:46] Congrats on the migration! [18:41:53] wiki assets should be on wiki [18:42:02] Yeah of course. [18:42:07] also discord links are unstable, don't rely on them [18:42:16] Grumpy idiot [18:42:20] Kk. [18:42:37] it was only one photo tho, so eh [18:42:39] [1/2] So this? [18:42:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201235911149625425/image.png?ex=65c9151f&is=65b6a01f&hm=a0dca4e387e254b6f09bbe360e39e53d2c4bf84d47bb0797590bae51b756e8ae& [18:43:17] the guy I know, works on video archiving channel, tried to ask permission another, bigger photographer, [18:43:22] and I planned too [18:43:30] but at first he was ignored [18:44:18] after several messages he started "look I'm ready to pay you" and the man finally replied [18:44:27] it was a very disheartening no [18:44:34] it even punched me in the gut lol [18:44:44] needless to say I won't attempt to ask [18:44:58] logandoesstuff: not quite, see [[ManageWiki]] [18:44:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki [18:45:07] there's a tutorial there on how to change your logo [18:45:28] raw file link [18:45:41] click on open in full size or something [18:46:00] in new tab you'll get just file page, the url starting w/ "static" [18:46:37] Meta Wiki has FAQ pagee and several guides [18:46:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201236990507618314/image.png?ex=65c91620&is=65b6a120&hm=5fec1d0a7218f0a187167b2cf14f4f7366ba69c0f1f6add6271ae1c5bb463d61& [18:47:00] Tried what it told me to [18:47:01] yup [18:47:33] [1/2] ??? [18:47:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201237141959741551/image.png?ex=65c91644&is=65b6a144&hm=894e7f8d83f0bd55d8f2b0036bae510c50ead6bf5e0c01323c8c17143d9837dd& [18:47:42] Oh nvm [18:47:45] I see now [18:47:49] Gimme a sec [18:49:03] K done [18:53:21] some settings and stuff like CSS/JS take some time to start working [18:58:45] <.myirlname> [1/2] i want to delete 4400 duplicate files, but NukeDPL times out even with the 500 page limitation [18:58:45] <.myirlname> [2/2] how do i resolve this? do i have to create a phabricator task or something? [19:00:20] So I try downloading the dumps from Special:Statistics on the involved Fandom pages, and then extracting them, but the files in the 7z files are glitched to have blank names. [19:00:30] Is the donor group on the discord for Miraheze donors or discord donors? How do you do either? [19:01:52] iirc if you either set up a recurring donation of $10 or donate one-time $20, you can obtain the role [19:12:27] [1/2] pywikibot or AutoWikiBrowser (semi automatic) are alternatives [19:12:28] [2/2] there's also NukeDPL (requires DPL3 extension first) [19:12:47] you get the list of files from special page? [19:13:29] <.myirlname> i get the list, click nuke, then after a couple minutes it times out [19:13:48] <.myirlname> also ty for the answer i'll try that [19:15:30] SRE can do deletions server side if you give a list [19:15:36] And they have much higher timeouts [19:15:57] the dump is fresh? are you admin of the wiki? [19:16:26] you can use some scrapper scripts from github as alternative way to get dumps [19:43:37] I am Bureaucrat for both Wikis. [19:46:35] Do you have the sysop group? [19:54:06] [1/3] try to request an update again then [19:54:07] [2/3] if it persists, then I suggest using scraper script [19:54:07] [3/3] you should be getting an xml file from archive [19:57:02] Yes. [19:57:17] Oh, I already requested the update yesterday. [19:58:09] I would welcome a walkthrough of the usage of the scrapper script. [19:58:57] sadly I'm not the right person 🥲 [19:59:22] I struggle w/ them myself, but other people are successful .. [20:03:22] I’d try here. https://github.com/WikiTeam/wikiteam/wiki/Tutorial [20:03:41] It’s easy to use once installed [20:03:55] but please for your own sake follow all the install steps closely [20:20:11] <_some_randomdude> when can I expect my wiki request to be reviewed? it’s been over six hours by now and almost every single one after mine has been approved/declined already [20:33:39] [1/2] Why is there text above the infobox? [20:33:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201263845461729321/image.png?ex=65c92f23&is=65b6ba23&hm=10bdf943460634598e83165810a2a6ee91a8c9049c5a5f9a758da5e11eb38c77& [20:35:35] You'll need to enable the TemplateStyles extension on your wiki. [20:35:43] Ah. [20:36:07] It allows customization CSS on a per-template basis, templates from Wikipedia and Fandom make extensive use of it. [20:39:17] [1/2] Eh? [20:39:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201265262234701845/image.png?ex=65c93074&is=65b6bb74&hm=f141682a1816c04825db290c492177d3f011c20d1666523862cf567e5f04f0d7& [20:41:15] [1/3] The wiki request review process is 100% driven by volunteers that give their time as they are able, there are several both before and after you as can be seen here: [20:41:15] [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue. [20:41:16] [3/3] I'm currently away from keyboard for a bit, but will make an effort to go through any without an initial response from a request reviewer once I return. [20:42:24] If you imported pages ending in styles.css before templatestyles was enabled, they're currently not set to the correct content model. Copy the name of the style sheet specified in the error, then go to Special:ChangeContentModel and switch it from plain text (or whatever it's currently set to) to sanitized CSS. [20:43:09] It might take a purge action on the page where the error shows up to fully clear the error after that, but that should get you sorted [20:43:32] [1/2] Awesome, but why is the infobox on the left? [20:43:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201266330364543076/image.png?ex=65c93173&is=65b6bc73&hm=87ec31b59f59329eb4572452a32d3e562bbc5be3fdbf3e94118e51756a10ff7e& [20:44:38] So question: Where did you originally borrow the template from? [20:45:04] I imported it from wikipedia using the export tool [20:45:42] Alright, then there's two flavors of CSS you'll need. One of which seems like it already exists, which is the styles css page for the infobox military conflict [20:46:08] You'll also need to borrow from MediaWiki:Common.css, which houses global CSS stuff. [20:46:27] I believe they house their infobox formatting there, that's what decides where the box goes on the page. [20:46:48] [1/2] Lmao [20:46:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201267155983929384/image.png?ex=65c93238&is=65b6bd38&hm=5ea29515c50d1ce8ee243767ce8b41c9a67d813072694324e27c770583699b5b& [20:46:50] Bad timing. [20:46:54] ooops [20:48:37] Heh, funny timing w/ our recent outage too. [20:48:50] [1/2] This might get you by in the interim: [20:48:50] [2/2] https://web.archive.org/web/20240127024809/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [20:48:55] Thanks! [20:48:59] You're looking for teh bits referencing .infobox [20:49:31] Wikimedia are aware and responding to the issue [20:49:58] Thanks for updates, hoping for a speedy recovery. [20:51:48] Its fixed [20:51:48] Woo [20:53:47] It's intermittent [20:54:07] I meant [20:54:10] My infobox problem [21:10:50] A day since migration and nothing has slowed down 👀 [21:15:36] @agentisai I did a quick scrape around grafana this morning and it looked pretty remarkable improvements [21:15:41] At least like 50% [21:17:03] Recent changes on meta is a little less speedy, but still blazing fast vs before. [21:18:04] I couldn't find a graph showing pX response times [21:19:42] all the zoom [21:41:07] [1/2] i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask about this, but after the server migration i can't connect to any miraheze wiki from any device on my own network despite being able to reach it on my mobile data with no issues, and every other website is fine. i've tried just about everything i can think of and the only thing that's worked so far is using a vpn, which isn't ideal [21:41:08] [2/2] because i don't typically use one. any idea how to resolve this? [21:43:32] Experiencing the same issue: @Site Reliability Engineers [21:47:20] Just a silly question really, Where can I set the time to 24 hours annotation in stead of the 12 hours here in Discord? [21:49:38] I've noticed some networks aren't working [21:49:55] It's not us or the DC's fault, it's an issue somewhere between Level 3's network and your ISP [21:50:03] I'll see if there's anything we can do locally [21:50:12] It is tied to the language you pick in settings. Another of those stupid discord decisions, assuming you have/want your discord client in English, picking the UK variant, should give you 24hr clocks [21:50:53] Yes Thanks 😄 [21:50:56] yea it’s annoying [21:51:16] my discord is on Portuguese but I loath 24 hour time [21:52:00] Yeah discord being discord really, like is it that hard to imagine, that some people may not nessarily want to follow their language's time format? [21:52:38] @agentisai have we reached out to Level 3? [21:52:48] I reached out to Amazon [21:52:51] I noticed this with Amazon's paths [21:52:55] might be useful to also contact Level 3 [21:53:02] Did it give you a case ref? [21:53:16] haven't had time to check my email since I sent it [21:53:21] whos level three [21:53:31] @pixldev Tier 1 ISP [21:53:41] <.labster, replying to pixldev> Internet backbone provider [21:53:46] [[w:Level 3 Communications]] [21:53:46] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_3_Communications [21:53:46] [21:53:58] oh, they got bought out? [21:53:59] what [21:54:02] Miraheze is connected on AWS’s network? [21:54:11] AKA CenturyLink / Lumen [21:54:26] No, but half the internet uses AWS [21:54:30] yep [21:54:39] Only half lol? [21:54:47] The hell is going on [21:54:50] I first noticed it because my VPN went through AWS LHR [21:54:52] Eh gotta leave some for GCP and Azure [21:54:57] And we couldn't connect [21:55:08] Then someone flagged an issue with RSS [21:55:21] Nothing that’s not Jeff Bezos’ fault [21:55:54] I think the DC also has Cognent and GTT as upstreams as well [21:56:11] It may be possible to just disable the paths via Level 3 [21:56:20] man, why are you always saying this? [21:56:24] And have our DC not advertise them [21:56:24] wouldn't be a bad idea [21:56:27] But BGP is weird [21:56:28] only question is how [21:56:34] Networks are even weirder [21:56:40] Who manages the routing? [21:56:49] I've absolutely zero experience with networking [21:57:02] so no idea, probably the DC [21:57:17] @agentisai if we aren't handling BGP, then the DC [21:57:23] Networking is evil black magic [21:57:24] yeah no, we aren't [21:57:30] would be cool if we could have our own ASN lol [21:57:51] Ye ask the DC to consider telling the world to prefer not level 3 [21:58:03] And if you have any ref, I'll annoy Amazon for you [21:58:25] i guess maybe we can switch? dunno [21:58:27] All of sysadmining is until you understand it [21:59:01] Facebook locked themselves out of their own datacenter because networking error [21:59:16] If we don't manage the ip routing, we won't be able to ourselves [21:59:22] Probably best we ask the DC [21:59:31] Maybe other customers at the DC are affected too [22:05:59] Always have a back-up plan 🙂 [22:06:11] This is good learning I see 🙂 [22:14:43] LMAO [22:34:40] @tali64 you said you can't connect to Miraheze, right? [22:35:14] Yes [22:35:25] This persists even to now, right? [22:35:54] I just tried to visit one of my wikis and got timed out [22:36:01] What's your ISP? [22:37:54] United Communications [22:38:15] are you at a computer? [22:38:24] Yes [22:38:29] Windows or Linux? [22:43:32] i guess they must be in the US and hitting cp36/37. Can you ping either of those? Can you run a traceroute and dm [22:44:22] I'm able to traceroute to them perfectly [22:44:33] oh hmm [22:44:40] you can ping them? [22:44:42] yep [22:44:46] huh hmm [22:44:51] but I wonder what route Tali's connection takes [22:45:09] my connection routes through Level3 from Minneapolis to Salt Lake City [22:45:40] I'm curious if Tali's connection takes some other route [22:45:50] or otherwise dies somewhere inside Level3 [22:46:08] because as it stands now, the issue we face between MH <-> AWS is at Amazon's router [22:46:41] if you bring it up with the dc they may fix it (by telling the isp) [22:48:05] yeah, I'm writing the support ticket but I want to collect as much data as possible [22:48:17] especially from someone who can't connect to Miraheze [22:48:20] cc @tali64 [22:48:41] I'm using Firefox on Windows 11 [22:49:22] [1/5] > ping4 aws.amazon.com [22:49:22] [2/5] > PING (18.173.250.134) 56(84) bytes of data. [22:49:23] [3/5] > ^C [22:49:23] [4/5] > --- ping statistics --- [22:49:23] [5/5] > 18 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 17311ms [22:50:14] i can ping 18.173.250.134 from my mac but can't inside the vms [22:50:33] I can't from within cloud* either [22:50:36] so it's a confirmed issue [22:50:41] i can't ping 18.173.250.134 from cp26 tho [22:50:45] It dies at Amazon's router [22:50:46] Is this the same issue with my RSS? [22:50:51] oh? [22:51:02] yeah, jw.org uses AWS [22:51:18] they used to use Akamai a while ago, seems they changed [22:51:35] If you need me to ping, let me know how to do that (Windows 11) [22:51:40] Can you to command prompt, run `tracert atlassian.com` and DM me the results? [22:51:47] i can't seem to ping 18.173.250.134 from any of the vms [22:52:50] *cps [22:52:51] sorry [22:53:00] oh really? :thonk: [22:53:05] @paladox can you ping atlassian.com? [22:53:09] They use AWS [22:53:34] no [22:54:36] You can't connect to Miraheze either, right? [22:54:40] correct [22:54:42] i can give more info if needed, i do have a different isp from them but strangely it's another fiber network that is local to a specific us state (though they list supported cities on their site so i would prefer to dm for that) [22:54:59] Are you on Windows, Linux, or Mac? [22:55:03] windows 10 [22:55:34] Can you open command prompt and run `tracert miraheze.org` and DM the results? [23:10:47] It seems I am able to connect to Miraheze right now. [23:12:24] it's just some connections that aren't able to [23:12:28] yeah [23:13:39] [1/3] I have another little issue: [23:13:39] [2/3] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard [23:13:39] [3/3] It keeps loading, but nothing happens [23:15:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1201304504948228238/image.png?ex=65c95501&is=65b6e001&hm=16a999bbdf65e63714776451f8ecc219cace82464a43907bf2634b68bc9e8edf& [23:15:50] ♪♫You sin me round around around ♫♪ [23:16:00] spin 😄 😮 [23:21:55] <.labster, replying to rodejong> Any errors in your browser console? [23:22:06] Let me check [23:24:36] [1/3] load.php?lang=en-gb&modules=startup&only=scripts&raw=1&skin=vector-2022:8 [23:24:36] [2/3] Skipped unavailable module ext.uploadWizard.page [23:24:36] [3/3] resolveStubbornly @ load.php?lang=en-gb&modules=startup&only=scripts&raw=1&skin=vector-2022:8 [23:25:11] Amazon? [23:25:13] 😄 [23:25:35] that sometimes happens where a ResourceLoader module is unavailable for a bit after you enable an extension [23:25:42] I've noticed that happen with Gadgets [23:25:48] might just be a matter of waiting it out [23:25:53] Okay [23:26:18] I'm being tested on how patient I can be I see 😄 LOL [23:29:21] great time to put what we learned at last year's regional convention into use [23:35:33] Timely reminders for all of us [23:35:44] Especially in this stressed out world [23:36:21] LOL [23:37:52] [1/4] It finally loaded: @.labster @agentisai [23:37:52] [2/4] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard [23:37:53] [3/4] Sorry, we could not find a tutorial in your language. The English one is shown instead. [23:37:53] [4/4] (I use British English 😄 ) [23:38:25] But hey, it works [23:41:04] finally lol [23:41:50] [1/2] But now I have another question. [23:41:51] [2/2] Is it possible to change "What can I upload to Wikimedia Commons?" to "What can I upload to Miraheze Commons?" or "What can I upload to this Wiki?" [23:42:23] It looks like this is an image directly taken from Commons? [23:45:29] quick... question. is it possible for people to change their miraheze username? [23:46:44] <.labster, replying to verityoffaith> Yes [23:47:07] where's that option? [23:47:38] somewhere under preferences, i would assume, but where specifically? [23:50:04] <.labster> [[Requesting Username Changes]] [23:50:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requesting_Username_Changes [23:50:05] [23:52:49] oooohh i was hoping it would be a faster process than this. um [23:53:00] there's an editor on my wiki who has an arguably NSFW username [23:53:14] how quickly do these requests get approved?