[00:00:49] <.elizabethy_> Hey guys how do you make a specific page's .body transparent, mine seems to not...work when I use it. [00:02:07] <.elizabethy_> Nevermind I fixed it [00:03:12] is there a latency in applying the change? [00:03:22] done that, am not observing it [00:03:35] i'm ctrl-f5ing [00:03:45] It may take a few minutes to update due to caching [00:19:15] yay it went through! [00:19:26] well now is certainly time to sleep [00:19:31] will continue later [00:24:07] i think i found a bug [00:24:30] i have set my preferences to use feminine language towards me [00:25:16] You can change that in your settings [00:25:20] but when i'm trying to create my user page, it's named Участник:LeraRiemann still, not Участница, which are masculine and feminine forms of the word User in russian [00:25:26] i did [00:25:51] Just now? or.. [00:26:14] about 20 minutes ago [00:26:19] hmmm [00:26:51] i think it's just not supporting russian to that extent maybe? [00:27:18] i mean the default main page text is obviously badly autotranslated so i wouldn't be surprised [00:27:53] It should. [00:28:04] i think i'll just switch the global language to english and pray the Supreme Stewards won't extradict me for having a wiki in english that's de facto in russian [00:28:29] maybe it'll change upon actual page creation [00:28:52] It can take a while, just as the MediaWiki:Sidebar sometimes needs a day [00:29:32] When changing language, you can often see the immediate affect [00:29:45] as that was not cached yet [00:29:50] [1/2] okie [00:29:51] [2/2] i'll give it time [00:30:21] if it won't change to feminine in 24h, i'm changing the wiki language [00:30:37] 👌 [00:31:17] Changing a thing that gets applied across a lot of the wiki (75-100%) usually doesn't show immediately [00:31:38] Something like... editing an infobox or changing the font through CSS, for example. [00:36:19] but user's gender preferences? [00:36:21] i mean [00:36:33] skin preferences and language applied instantly [00:37:24] The page won't automatically move [00:37:33] You might need to delete it and retry to create your user page [00:37:48] but otherwise, this may either be a bug in MediaWiki or intended behavior [00:38:46] i haven't created it until just now [00:40:13] actually [00:40:37] the planform references me in russian even on english language wikis [00:40:42] what the fuck do i do [00:40:59] You likely set your global language to Russian [00:41:07] no, it's english [00:41:20] it was russian upon account creation idk why [00:41:24] ah [00:41:29] but i changed it [00:42:40] the Main Page link is also leading to the russian version of Main Page even after i changed the wiki language to english [00:43:29] [1/2] https://weboflife.miraheze.org/wiki/User:LeraRiemann [00:43:29] [2/2] look how weird [00:43:41] it's User:LeraRiemann in address [00:43:47] but russian in title [00:44:04] oh finally [00:44:09] i needed to purge it [00:44:48] the Main Page though [00:44:52] different story [00:45:01] for now i manually moved it [00:45:32] Oh yeah, the main page language never changes [00:45:42] fuck [00:46:00] lowkey want to delete the wiki and ask to recreate it [00:46:12] sorry [00:46:17] i'm a perfectionist [00:46:54] i can probably just hide the Redirected from text via css though [00:47:43] should've requested it in english though [00:47:47] i'm so stupid [00:48:11] [1/3] can it be changed by like [00:48:11] [2/3] higher order powers [00:48:11] [3/3] if i plead to them nicely [00:49:08] You could copy it from another wiki [00:49:23] but by itself, it doesn't change dynamically because it's a page like any other [00:50:30] ahhh you mean the page contents [00:50:36] i alredy replaced them [00:50:43] that's not the problem [00:51:17] problem is when i'm clicking the Main Page link on the left sidebar, it leads me to Заглавная страница instead of Main Page [00:51:27] ohhh [00:51:45] you can probably null edit MediaWiki:Mainpage to get that fixed [00:51:50] it's likely just cache at play [00:54:25] thanks!!! [00:54:36] i null edited it then reverted the change [00:54:40] it's all fixed [00:54:59] btw when it's null edited it's cuuursed [00:55:13] the main page link just refreshes whatever page i'm on [00:58:33] for clarification, to add js in articles, do you just do [article]/styles.js? [00:58:55] no, that doesn't exist in MediaWiki [00:59:15] to add JS, you'd add it in MediaWiki:Common.js and you'd target what page you want the JS to run on [01:01:34] damn even more work to just make
s collapsible [01:02:23] огые ащк сдфкшашсфешщт [01:02:27] god [01:02:33] just for clarification [01:02:47] there are no avatars on miraheze right? [01:03:40] no global avatar system, no [01:03:46] okie [01:03:54] you can enable SocialProfile on your wiki which offers some features like Avatars though [01:10:14] Depending on what you're after maybe you should use MediaWiki's built-in collapsible elements [01:10:40] [01:12:26] i wanted to make my custom navbox made out of divs collapsible so it's a bit less cluttered once enough content has been added [01:12:41] but yea i'll try [01:12:53] [1/3] https://weboflife.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [01:12:53] [2/3] look at her she's my precious little baby [01:12:54] [3/3] i think i'm done with edits for tonight [01:13:18] Then this is exactly what you need I think :pupCoffeeMH: navboxes onany wikis use it [01:13:38] No need to re-invent the wheel [01:14:18] xena was it you who just created an account? [01:14:51] just accidentially looked at global feed [01:14:53] haha its fun to learn coding regardless but thanks for showing me it [01:15:05] Oh yes it says that when someone visits the wiki for the first time [01:15:14] oooh [01:15:21] makes sense [01:15:42] Yeah it's fun! You'll probably have fun with templates then :pupCoffeeMH: [01:16:02] i just thought it's like a global thing and panicked for a sec thinking somebody snatched your name [01:16:24] Anyway have to head to sleep. Have a good applicable time of day ~ [01:17:11] same here, same regards ~ [01:57:55] interesting [01:58:36] God that feature is annoying. You should see the central Auth page for vandalism staff [01:58:44] horrific [02:00:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth/1108-Kiju some have thousands! [02:54:45] <.elizabethy_> Does anybody know how to fix a duping background imagw? [02:54:49] <.elizabethy_> Image* [03:09:04] <.labster> [1/2] A very productive day of editing for me: [03:09:04] <.labster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1202812900700590140/image.png?ex=65ced1ce&is=65bc5cce&hm=1f59becdf691caedbb9ea466cd6a2c002367d022c1ba5e01bde041e68feb8669& [03:15:13] I wish I could be that productive [03:16:00] One could argue deleting is anti-productive 😛 [03:46:33] Sup [03:47:07] Sub [03:47:31] 🛌 ZzzzzZzzzz [05:15:27] Lake was active here when I only joined [05:15:40] now I guess it's just me and Xena indeed [05:17:46] up until recently, it was only you [05:17:51] Xena was away for a bit [05:19:50] well yeaaah :ThinkerMH: [05:29:41] What even is a CSS, really? :EpicFaceMH: [06:23:42] For many, Can't Stand Styling [06:24:48] literally me right now about to throw hands with z-index [06:43:38] <.labster> Just set z-index to values over a million, it will definitely start working then. [07:21:24] CirrusSearch has landed on a few select wikis so make sure to check that out 👀 [07:21:33] I'll give one hint though, one of the wikis is Meta [07:21:54] There are a few others with CS as well [07:23:31] 👀 [09:38:54] <.elizabethy_> I just passed out while editing CSS [09:39:14] <.elizabethy_> now I have to take the blame for leaving "errors" [09:39:17] <.elizabethy_> :Sob: [09:41:18] I can stand it(I died after seeing my resume) [09:41:25] "Five Years Experience" [09:41:26] LOL [12:02:55] its back! [12:05:17] don't jinx it [12:55:08] RAM sticks, y'know? [12:55:20] they downloaded more [12:56:16] Our RAM download failed \:( [13:21:14] Hello people [13:21:22] a:bakulaughing: [13:53:40] [1/2] new changes applied lesgo [13:53:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1202975126757580831/image.png?ex=65cf68e4&is=65bcf3e4&hm=d77b8cfc3a8328ffd865729193c6b17e0915b6491048bf2e4516d4f51036a40b& [13:55:04] [1/2] a thought: i feel like the yellow from the logo looks better, and has better contrast on this background [13:55:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1202975478189662228/image.png?ex=65cf6938&is=65bcf438&hm=2d9a565f6ebd3de9b8c95f2a73199908cfcd35e649de69007be247a6427dadfc& [13:55:49] [1/2] and perhaps [13:55:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1202975663984742470/image.png?ex=65cf6964&is=65bcf464&hm=a156c749a305cdbaff0fc1a954cea1cb6b62510d9bc3e3a00d00dc44393922c7& [13:55:51] instead of purple [13:56:17] since, if i'm not mistaken, purple isn't a part of Miraheze's branding [13:58:28] and still suggesting that the image be replaced with some wiki pic(s) [14:09:14] maybe soon, who knows [14:09:57] I'm going to not apply any further CSS changes because I made a mess at 12am so I'd rather not [14:12:54] I have a question about translation. Should all the words in the phrase "WikiTide Foundation" not be translated? [14:14:38] Maybe "Foundation" if there's an equivalent in your language [14:14:43] but WikiTide, no [14:29:58] Russian requires transliteration, but I keep og because everyone struggle w/ how to transliterate "miraheze" lol [14:30:06] "wikitide" is easy [14:38:50] BTW, I've just made a PR, which should fix the sizing options for header and footer and also the color issues [14:39:10] [1/2] because idk how readable is this [14:39:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1202986574162305055/image.png?ex=65cf738d&is=65bcfe8d&hm=7796bf569d4ae0b8d78b9ed294e2cdc39c8e15eedfdd52dfa4679d880472647e& [14:39:21] I mean Miraheze is supposed to be 2 stars right? so wouldn't it just be a matter of taking the russian names of those stars then? [14:53:51] it's sounds funny [15:12:40] Not [15:14:13] https://accessibleweb.com/color-contrast-checker/ [16:37:57] damn [16:38:06] it was that bad [16:38:17] RAM goes bad all the time [16:38:56] since the RAM is ECC RAM, it has error correction but replacing the faulty RAM is much better than leaving it be [16:46:43] [1/2] storage STAYS in English lol [16:46:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1203018674982621295/2024-02-02_19_46_26.png?ex=65cf9173&is=65bd1c73&hm=2212f82b720c58271338384912fcb2003bf477ef64e830a06d04a00325a78cc0& [16:49:23] Fundraiser is winding down either way [16:49:28] one week left [16:50:13] it initially was 10k? [16:50:38] it did not bad? [17:31:35] thank you 🫡 [17:33:34] 10 minute maintenance, not too bad [17:37:08] yay [18:04:03] WHen is https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Policy_updates_January_2024 being opened? [18:05:54] [1/9] The Extension:DarkMode seems to also 180° hue rotate the wiki's logo, which is not ideal. I've tried adding... [18:05:54] [2/9] ```css [18:05:54] [3/9] .mw-wiki-logo { [18:05:55] [4/9] filter: none !important; [18:05:55] [5/9] } [18:05:55] [6/9] ``` [18:05:56] [7/9] ...to the Common.css but alas it does not appear to work. [18:05:56] [8/9] Per documentation adding `mw-no-invert`to `mw-wiki-logo`'s `a class` would be ideal, though without SFTP access I'm not sure how to edit the html, or likely php in this case. Using the vector (legacy) skin I'm not sure if those necessary pages are able to be accessed somehow, or if I'm just bad at css and editing the html directly isn't even necessary. [18:05:56] [9/9] Advice would be appreciated. [18:07:01] pretty sure there's another way [18:07:09] while it is true miraheze reserves SFTP access to very few people, that doesn't stop you from submitting changes to LocalSettings.php actually [18:07:11] in DarkMode [18:07:19] but changing HTML is a JS thing [18:07:36] Common.js then? :think: [18:08:09] hopefully ThemeToggle will be accepted soon on Mira so people will be able theor pwn dark themed w/ a proper switch [18:09:21] [1/2] yeah [18:09:21] [2/2] also I suggest to wait about 10 min for Common.css to start working [18:13:34] the main difference is no case sensetivity in search? [18:13:57] heh, imagine going through all that trouble just for that [18:14:15] yeah so I was wondering what's more [18:15:38] [1/10] The particular css attempt does appear in inspect though doesn't actually work, so it may just be wrong somehow. My js attempt isnt' working as of yet though idk if my force refreshing isn't refreshing the cache just yet or if it perhaps isn't propogated: [18:15:39] [2/10] ```js [18:15:39] [3/10] $(document).ready(function() { [18:15:39] [4/10] var logoElement = $('.mw-wiki-logo'); [18:15:40] [5/10] if (logoElement.length > 0) { [18:15:40] [6/10] element [18:15:40] [7/10] logoElement.addClass('mw-no-invert'); [18:15:40] [8/10] } [18:15:41] [9/10] }); [18:15:41] [10/10] ``` [18:17:22] :contemplating: [18:30:10] [1/6] Also the css appears to be active (showing in inspect). In fact looking in the inspect I see: [18:30:10] [2/6] ```css [18:30:10] [3/6] .mw-wiki-logo { [18:30:11] [4/6] filter: none !important; [18:30:11] [5/6] }``` [18:30:11] [6/6] And if I UNCHECK the `filter: none !important;` line then the logo goes back to normal. So that's just weird. Removing that line from the css seems to fix the problem. Doubly weird. [18:30:28] Problem seems resolved either way ig [18:32:01] honestly, DarkMode isn't good extension [18:32:17] many people who tried it drop later [18:32:35] I'm waiting for ThemeToggle to be added [18:32:40] DarkMode was made in a very basic fashion and then abandoned [18:32:56] It's a disliked, unloved and unowned comm tech project [18:33:14] SKL (PTW admin) created several funky themes and working on dark mode version now [18:33:25] oh nice, discussion abt darkmode. was just about to ask a question regarding it [18:33:48] any way to make a template appear a different color when switched to darkmode? [18:34:20] add class `client-darkmode` [18:34:49] if your template uses `.someclass`, then also create `.client-darkmode .someclass` ruke [18:35:06] at least I think it should be like that [18:35:24] thx. will see if it works [18:36:14] [1/2] this is also what I've used to disable all of darkmode's inversion settings. is there a simpler way? [18:36:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1203046233334095922/image.png?ex=65cfab1d&is=65bd361d&hm=52182c6446a61e9bc7662704b5c88247e769d26960bd46fe947a2cad6612213b& [18:36:26] oof [18:36:46] Dark mode does certainly make even scrolling laggy. Hopefully actual decent dark skins get added at some point. [18:37:25] like we said above, darkmode is simply bad so /shrug [18:40:36] so like .client-darkmode template:thing ? [18:41:42] no, I mean it works if you created some styling for a template [18:43:46] oh. don't know about that [18:43:52] eh, I'll focus on the templates last [19:11:39] 100% agree, it's so clunky and annoying to work with [19:12:14] I have a CSS snippet for doing that on my meta profile, it has a bit less selectors there but can miss some specific elements still. Will send a link in a sec so you can check it out :pupCoffeeMH: [19:13:16] thanks. DM so I don't forget [19:16:55] Anyone has tips on how to run the landing page locally (from repo fork) for testing purposes? Would like to try to contribute some styling but I'm still a Github noobie so to speak [19:17:18] Hm? [19:17:25] Wdym [19:26:40] ^ [19:29:47] Lemme see here [19:29:55] I have cloned my fork and opened in VSCode but kind of stumped here. Apologies if it's a simple beginner thing but wouldn't want to mess this up [19:31:07] It looks like a PHP app [19:32:09] So you’d need to set up Apache or NGINX or another web server and load index.php [19:32:16] I'm asking here because there are people who made commits to the repo so they know the workflow [19:32:56] I’m not a professional with PHP but I’ve set up a media wiki instance(also a PHP app) and the same principles apply [19:33:49] Oh, it seems PHP has its own development server [19:34:50] While I can’t say anything definitively, this may be a good way to test out layout changes https://www.php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.webserver.php will need to install PHP on your device ofc [19:41:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1203062691611025589/image.png?ex=65cfba71&is=65bd4571&hm=fc410cc7402b4cafc5b4d180a3e0473cc9d8da3629fa3195f081aba6c1c4d460& [19:41:44] Going good [19:51:16] Okie, will try later today, thanks :pupCoffeeMH: [19:51:34] No worries. [19:52:08] If the dev server don’t work, a simple google search on how to set up a Apache web server should provide sufficient documentation [19:53:54] I have XAMPP installed so can try that way if it won't work yeah [20:07:15] xenareee: hey, nice to see you want to contribute! [20:07:51] you can run the landing page locally by pointing apache's DocumentRoot to wherever you have cloned the landing repo [20:10:14] I believe they do not currently have Apache installed on the machine [20:10:39] if they have XAMPP they have Apache, it is part of the package [20:16:55] My bad [21:13:58] very noticeable drop in spead [21:14:06] site down? [21:14:08] 502 included [21:14:17] phab basically dead [21:15:21] It’s just not loading for me. [21:15:22] Whoow, where is that snail speed coming from? [21:15:30] My phone can’t connect to meta at all [21:15:38] total stop now [21:15:39] 502 bad gateway "nginx" [21:15:44] Even Grafana seems unreachable [21:15:47] interesting [21:15:48] @Site Reliability Engineers [21:15:53] oops [21:15:53] Thank goodness I saved my page before this happened [21:16:02] [1/2] wuh oh [21:16:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1203086450594156695/image.png?ex=65cfd092&is=65bd5b92&hm=f72df037325f6d96b529922b0f8e970ddbc8a34bcc3464e48732aad50b52ffa6& [21:16:09] all mw* servers are depooled [21:16:11] 502 aaaaaaaargh [21:16:15] but cp36 and 37 are up [21:16:17] Why does this keep happening? [21:16:25] :moonch: [21:16:28] [1/2] Something went wrong [21:16:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1203086557360160809/Screenshot_20240202_151613_Firefox.jpg?ex=65cfd0ab&is=65bd5bab&hm=4bdcc042082e6d87b8622b5e978d790dc7bb7276add7438deb50334121d7b7f3& [21:16:33] The morning's incident was just random RAM failure [21:16:40] [1/2] Not even an error [21:16:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1203086611068358748/image0.jpg?ex=65cfd0b8&is=65bd5bb8&hm=56f75854e0ba9d3e5b8e3ff373c7784579c66b4aa56b2f5a0f5800d5d1812578& [21:16:41] Right now's issue, I'm not sure [21:16:46] Yeah [21:16:54] @agentisai here too [21:17:02] @paladox thoughts? ^ [21:17:04] I hope it’s fixed soon! [21:17:09] what you said about depooling earlier? [21:17:10] mon181 is up and so are cp36 and 37 [21:17:15] i'm not sure i can see into everywhere [21:17:16] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp28.wikitide.net at Fri, 02 Feb 2024 21:16:45 GMT [21:17:17] [2/2] Varnish XID 165478428, [21:17:17] so the servers are up [21:17:25] Now I’m getting 503s. [21:17:30] [1/2] mine was ``Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp36 at Fri, 02 Feb 2024 21:16:33 GMT [21:17:30] [2/2] Varnish XID 37847054,`` [21:17:37] Can anybody reach Grafana? [21:17:46] AllTheTropes gives me a 503. [21:17:47] What's Grafana [21:17:48] Listen, we can wait. Of course. Don't be so fast. It's just about progress of 1 million or more users. [21:17:49] Well, servers are up, cp* seems to have trouble connecting to them though [21:17:52] yes, I can [21:17:57] cp28 for me [21:17:58] SephiaSplash Wiki is up [21:18:04] Grafana looks fine [21:18:05] [1/2] it must be more than one server `Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp28.wikitide.net at Fri, 02 Feb 2024 21:15:40 GMT [21:18:05] [2/2] Varnish XID 153977246` [21:18:10] AllTheTropes is working now! [21:18:18] kinda monitoring service? [21:18:22] Ink idols is also working [21:18:22] seems to be coming back [21:18:25] Transient issue? [21:18:29] Working for me now [21:18:37] back 👍 [21:18:41] we are so back [21:18:43] yeah all back [21:18:47] We are so back guys [21:18:50] Yup it's back [21:18:55] tiny ddos?! [21:19:02] H u h [21:19:08] looks like nginx needed restarting on cp37 [21:19:08] No servers reported a load increase [21:19:10] so not sure [21:19:24] Nothing in the logs at all? [21:19:26] ye I'm confused by this [21:19:37] nope [21:20:16] Wack [21:21:33] We've got DDoSed because of Sombra! XD [21:21:45] @paladox check cp36 & cp41 - both have all backends down I think [21:21:52] Sorry, I really hate Sombra in OW, that's why I'm talking like that. [21:23:28] We're back! 503 vanished! [22:02:48] My webbrowser crashed as soon as I tried to get back on Discord to check about 503 😄 LOL What is happening 😮 [22:18:52] It's funny, since I'm using Brave, nothing happening and there's no 503. [22:26:16] It lasted for like a minute [22:27:58] Orange_Star: I replied on github [22:29:21] also replied with a thing I forgot initially [22:29:54] I have a non-discoverable key, same as when I was a mw-admin, so you actually need more than the physical key to use it [22:32:18] Orange_Star: you can probably tell I've spent too much time thinking about risk assessments and technical rules this week. [22:33:00] Don't do anything stupid and if something happens please say quickly via a private method should be enough of a mitigation [22:41:28] [1/4] hi everyone! [22:41:28] [2/4] 1) Since the migration, everything seems to be running way faster and smoother on my wiki, so like, woohoo? Yayy! [22:41:28] [3/4] 2) Do edits have to be chekced before they're like, put into place? Because I noticed a friend made an edit on a page on my wiki, and I realised that it didn't show that version until I checked it and approved it. Is there a way to have a page, like there was when I had moderation enabled, to see all recent edits in case someone's been mucking around, but for edits to be sort [22:41:29] [4/4] of automatically approved? [22:42:01] you probably have some of moderation extensions enabled [22:43:29] Okay, I'll have another look. I really thought I'd disabeld them all! [22:44:30] Any idea what moderation-related extensions might be called? [22:44:30] they might have some misleading names too [22:44:52] better to read up descriptions if you are not sure [22:46:13] Guess I'll have to check them all then. Thanks! [22:46:43] that sounds like moderation itself is still enabled [22:48:19] found it- approvedrevs was enabled [22:49:13] q: Is there a way to still send all new edits to a special page, like in moderation, but without me having to approve them? [22:50:45] no easy way unfortunately [22:51:00] Thank you for the instructions :pupCoffeeMH: [22:52:14] I found something- a 'recentchanges' extension. Maybe that'll help a bit [22:52:30] <.labster, replying to mx.lilasekhmet> Isn’t that just edits without autoconfirmed? [22:52:56] Do you mean a page like that already exists? [22:54:38] IIRC it's a RecentChanges filter that allows you to see only edits made by non-autoconfirmed users [23:29:23] [1/5] development update! (hope i'm allowed to post these) [23:29:23] [2/5] made a template for the future to easily credit page authors + a master template that converts usernames to profile links [23:29:24] [3/5] [here's how it will look](https://weboflife.miraheze.org/wiki/Test_Page) [23:29:24] [4/5] i'm still retaining page history so this template isn't strictly required but i still want to include it. we had a whole "domain system" before signifying who oversees which articles but it got kinda messy when authors started leaving and transferring articles to one another [23:29:24] [5/5] and with me essentially overwriting every page in some way... i think it's time to replace that system with a credits section [23:42:32] does Anonnotice currently work? [23:54:34] Is there a way to have a wiki operating buddy bot for miraheze hosted ones [23:57:33] hm? wdym