[00:09:23] Is there a Find Replace feature in the wiki editor? [00:09:41] Yes [00:10:23] Crtl F I think [00:10:30] It's on the far right upper corner [00:10:39] I'm importing a table into the visual editor and it keeps putting arrows in the text for some reason. I think it'll be easier to find the arrow characters and then replace them with a space [00:10:51] Probably comments [00:10:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206754352501624902/image.png?ex=65dd2892&is=65cab392&hm=550c117ef7e010676ee23a86196a8f0f115f5c7b54ac21b930edbb6e2416c734& [00:11:01] people use them to space it out [00:11:08] h u h [00:11:12] i take it back [00:11:20] Use the source editor instead [00:11:24] Much easier [00:11:28] These three arrows only ever replace spaces [00:11:33] Yeah I'll do that [00:12:49] Do you have the Displaytitle extension enabled? [00:13:46] Ok... I just found out that the arrows go away after saving [00:18:42] The arrows are still there in editing mode but are gone when just viewing the page [00:19:53] weird [00:28:51] When viewing where the arrows are in edit source mode, they're what looks like 3 tabs [00:29:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206759121563680798/image.png?ex=65dd2d03&is=65cab803&hm=aeb8b8f41d1ab50a6ee698eea22c7fc934617b2b025c8185bb2a801cd03b1afa& [00:30:37] But when I copy paste these 3 tabs into the Find and Replace box, it turns into a series of spaces and I don't know why [00:30:50] So find and replace can't change them to ordinary spaces [00:33:18] Can you show me the link to that text [00:37:23] https://grimtown.miraheze.org/wiki/ARP-98A21F19?action=edit [00:37:43] I think it might be a weirdness with tabs and spaces [00:38:01] copying on my end I think changes the tabs into spaces so I cant do much [00:39:05] I'm currently replacing the tabs in VS Codium by replacing the tabs with $ and then working from there [00:41:46] If you're using the find and replace from visual editor, you can toggle the option for regular expression (button should look like `(.*)`) and match tab characters with `\t` [00:42:03] I checked the word document and theres no tabs so idk where they came from [00:42:14] oh yeah I forgot, I'll try that now [00:44:24] 961 replacements made. [00:44:30] Worked fine [00:44:47] Should I save, or would you do it yourself? [00:45:21] ↑ [00:46:09] I'll save [00:46:30] 👌 [00:48:13] Next problem, some words in the last table are now conjoined and I'm not sure how that happened, I'll read through it and correct it (I like to read through this anyway) [00:50:15] You go in that text and you'll be determined to read every word carefully untill your 💯 % sure 😄 [00:51:20] Imma get something to eat. Along with this, I'm still importing things from the old reddit wiki we had which was awful so tonights going to be a long one [00:55:59] [1/2] Mine will be ending... almost 2 am now so ... 🛌 💤 [00:55:59] [2/2] Good night everyone [00:58:45] <.labster> I’ll be around for a few hours, though. My night will start as soon as the sun sets [01:17:46] [1/2] I feel like I'm finally getting control of my wiki [01:17:46] [2/2] And it's exciting [01:18:46] <.labster, replying to luasucks> I think you need to turn on a math extension for Universe Mechanics page [01:18:47] [1/2] I made the text part for my wiki's logo and some different versions for seasonal themes [01:18:47] [2/2] Now figuring out how to make the layout for the new main page is the goal [01:19:04] I can make custom css just for my wiki yes, [01:19:06] ?? [01:20:01] <.labster> Yes, you can write custom CSS, and even custom skins if you’re very adventurous [01:48:28] doesn anyone use v2.1 of the countdown from dev wiki? i just notice that my post countdown text is broken and it appears right away instead of only appear after countdown is over. it worked before [05:33:33] Oh yes thank you for spotting that, I kinda fell asleep haha [05:35:43] [1/9] Hi, I need some help from someone who is better at CSS than me. I'm new to Miraheze, and I'm trying to modify the WMAU skin to make the content wider (max-width: 80%, for instance), but nothing I do is working. I used the inspect tool on Chrome to find the css element, and I tried editing [05:35:43] [2/9] ``.skin-wmau-container { [05:35:44] [3/9] max-width: 900px; [05:35:44] [4/9] margin: 0 auto; [05:35:44] [5/9] padding: 10px 0; [05:35:45] [6/9] }`` [05:35:45] [7/9] to just make the width 1280 pixels, and it works in the inspection tool. When I go to Common.css and try to overwrite it, nothing happens. [05:35:45] [8/9] I'm sure it's my fault, I'm not very good with CSS. I'd appreciate any guidance anyone could give me. I have all these nice images for my dungeons and dragons campaign that I want to share with my players and everyone else https://laternia.miraheze.org/ [05:35:45] [9/9] Thank you in advance! [05:40:08] @cosmicalpha I think wikifeedbot on IRC is stuck [05:43:12] Which one? [05:43:28] feed-meta I believe [05:43:30] and it might be -feed as well [05:43:46] I think actually all? [05:43:53] if -feed is down they will all be down [05:44:03] Yep they're all down [05:44:12] I will look [05:44:18] feed recently was dead in PTW server [05:44:35] something is not healthy [05:44:51] I'm looking [05:45:41] can I grab an invite back there? [05:45:46] think I lost it in the shuffle [05:46:15] it must be in server invites channel [05:46:24] ah maybe [05:46:29] uuh I can't see it rn, man, how this thing works [05:46:37] #server-invites [05:46:39] ah [05:46:55] I thought you meant Public Test Wiki [05:46:57] oops [05:47:00] my bad [05:47:15] lmao [05:47:19] sorry yeah [05:47:20] I'll still join anyway as the other PTW seems fun haha [05:47:24] now I'm hungry :p [05:47:32] I keep forgetting about test wiki's existing [05:47:40] Lol so did I lol [05:49:17] It's a bit of no-man's land [05:49:23] I gotta get someone to remove Dmehus from consul I realized [05:49:28] He's been inactive for like 8 months [05:50:02] @zppix? [05:50:59] Seems like its been dead all day [05:51:09] yepp [05:52:29] Fixed [05:52:37] thanks! [05:52:44] No problem [05:53:18] A steward has to remove consuls [05:53:31] oh 😦 [05:53:41] CCing Stewards then? [05:54:02] I've tried pinging Stewards about it before but maybe again now I guess [05:54:15] I mean its not that important its a testwiki [05:54:28] Yeah it's just a procedure thing [05:54:31] Not the biggest of deals [05:54:39] But is also a 20-second venture [05:56:21] That's why I didn't try to pursue anything much further after initial ping, and wasn't involved in testwiki anyway, so wasn't really my business after I tried to ping to let them know once. [06:02:06] getting flashbacks of certain user being too serious w/ test wiki [06:02:54] [1/2] ah I have already removed Dmehus permissions [06:02:54] [2/2] https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Special:Log?logid=31332 [06:02:57] wdym? [06:02:58] nale [06:03:25] oh... completely missed that lol [06:03:37] hm, my bad [06:03:42] i'm a bit of an idiot hah [06:03:42] sorry [06:03:49] np [06:04:08] also - should DMM4500 have rights? [06:04:17] globally locked for compromised acc, might be good to remove perms [06:05:09] again, procedural, but still [06:06:39] I personally don't see the need to remove perms, it would be more work to restore perms if unlocked after proving identity (unless of course can't prove identity) and can't use them locked anyway [06:06:49] true [06:06:59] maybe [06:07:10] ehhh I would probably lean on remove anwyay [06:07:18] but up to you [06:07:37] If it takes weeks longer tjen maybe, but personally I'd say give it a bit of time, but ultimately up to Stewards. [06:07:38] and.....we also have no GRs [06:07:39] lovely [06:08:06] it's a bit funnt [06:08:58] [1/2] agree [06:08:58] [2/2] If it takes a long time to resolve, I think we need to consider removing it, but I don't think that's necessary at this point [06:28:51] I mean when its locked you cant login [06:28:55] It wont let you [06:41:34] @bwm0 @kiju1108: I would leave it to the inactivity policy [06:41:53] Although I don't believe he's reached out [07:43:09] Why can't I change protection on MediaWiki:Common.css to Administrator only? [07:47:44] Editing of that page is controlled by the editsitecss right not a protection level [07:52:30] it's already protected, roughly speaking [07:52:50] gotcha, thanks [08:11:55] Oof, looks like redirect pages don't change the title of the page in search results [09:25:55] Perhaps a reconfirmation wouldn't be the worst idea as I would probably seek a revote based on apparent security practices despite having a global role among other things I've come across that would at least personally erode confidence, though I'm in no position to say directly since y'know [09:28:32] I personally don't think it's absolutely necessary but wouldn't necessarily oppose it but its not my area and is ultimately up to Stewards anyway. [09:28:34] though I'd err towards giving it some more time to resolve [09:29:00] Maybe if not resolved in xdays/weeks/etc... it would be a good idea. [09:39:10] I think a reconfirmation should be up to the community but if the account is unlocked that would mean that Stewards and/or T&S is convinced that it is in fact them [09:39:57] either way, GR doesn't have a lot of power. If it was GS, then a reconfirmation would be more in order [09:40:20] and if it was Steward this would 99.9% not happen as there would be a 2FA requirement [09:40:44] I think? I don't fully remember if there is one but if there isn't, there should be! [09:41:58] Stewards, GS, T&S, and SRE require 2FA IIRC (also Meta interface administrators) [09:42:29] Well the accounts don't require it but it does require it to use the rights [09:44:00] did you try adding !important? it's needed sometimes to overwrite a default [10:12:10] [1/2] another minor thing that annoyingly was changed w/ 1.41 - fixed color for show/hide buttons in collapsible class [10:12:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206905647812182036/IMG_20240213_131042.jpg?ex=65ddb579&is=65cb4079&hm=cf734d3b5fe7f4ea514d25ed2f7922edcf5dbef311a22427fa2e9fbc1ace2d66& [10:12:59] it also affected Navbox/NavboxBuilder modules ofc [10:17:50] ah thank you i will try that! [10:35:47] GR doesn't require 2FA. Maybe it should. [10:40:58] Replace it with an icon like ▲▼ or ↑↓ [10:42:00] altcode 31, 30, 25 and 24 [10:42:32] [1/2] I'm trying this out with this new template: [10:42:32] [2/2] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:File_Directory [10:45:14] @kojobailey is meddeling with this [10:45:56] It has me intrigued, but have some issues with it still. [10:47:14] [1/2] I don't want it too complex as his, but just a simple directory for in e.g. the Infobox. [10:47:14] [2/2] It's a collapsable template. [10:49:45] I'm talking about colors man [10:50:15] navbox modules let you to change icons tho [10:50:21] I mean, you don't need colours then 😄 [10:50:37] wrong, still gonna look bad [10:51:01] Or use a file image [10:51:22] very cool if swift gets upset again lol [10:51:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206915627441455124/48px-Gnome-go-up.png?ex=65ddbec4&is=65cb49c4&hm=5bd0c93ae2a34668516e9bf469fac2eee6ee4110c5c585cc6b0b1aa1287c9018& [10:51:50] already had problems w/ that because I replace icons of Timeless [10:52:19] Naughty naughty 😄 [10:52:38] my wikis tend to have dark color schemes so I need to make all elements readable [10:53:24] [1/2] this is always readable though [10:53:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206916026353066054/48px-Gnome-go-down.png?ex=65ddbf24&is=65cb4a24&hm=8fbaadc1490bd3d541ff2f23aaf39d0955a26592a11ed71fac3b026aac0bcc7d& [10:54:23] in this case, the content between `[]` had inherited color from body a, but now it fixed and I have to add yet another CSS snippet [10:54:42] I hate emoji rendering lol [10:54:50] I accept only symbols [10:54:59] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-go-down.svg [10:55:10] but if differs between browsers so it's annoying [10:55:12] It's just a file [10:55:24] I said files aren't reliable [10:55:36] hmmm [10:55:40] I missed that [11:03:10] is it not worth it though [11:03:12] considering it "fixed" [11:04:12] nooo man I'm the kind of admin who managed to fix OOUI colors too lol [11:07:49] is it possible to hide a page from Special:AllPages without restricting access? [11:11:07] I think not, but maybe someone overules me on that 😄 [11:11:42] doubtful [11:12:04] you can redirect w/ CSS, for example [11:12:28] for a single page, I can think of only JS, and it can be overriden [11:12:54] gotcha, thank you [12:26:45] Is there a way, to show a picture from an article on the mainpage, but cropped to show only a part of the picture? [12:29:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206940217689382922/image.png?ex=65ddd5ab&is=65cb60ab&hm=11cfcaceac57d8fcba7c155ec3dea5c773d01dd38a3ac45701a577765f5dfd4c& [12:30:06] Or do I have to upload it separatly? [13:46:04] I think you have to upload seperately aa I don't think its supported with Mediawiki [13:46:27] Hm [13:46:40] Yeah I can’t remember reading about this [13:47:14] Thought so, There should be developed a extension for that. Come on @pixldev You can do that. [13:47:41] Was just thinking that lmao [13:47:59] I have never made an extension or coded in PHP [13:48:16] But been watching to start [13:48:28] :devilish: [13:48:29] Yeah read that on Wikimedia Discord 😄 [13:48:43] You mean Mediawiki? [13:48:51] God that gets confusing [13:49:03] Well for now I have snow to shovel [13:49:39] Yeah, that one 😄 [13:49:50] Done that already [13:49:57] I need to look for other extensions that affect images to look how it’s done [13:50:12] If you know any lmk [13:50:35] I don't. Otherwise I'd given the link to you already [13:50:39] Been looking [13:50:44] Lmao I can’t tell where my driveway stops and lawn starts [13:50:52] hahaha [13:51:13] [1/2] It’s there [13:51:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206960776620015626/IMG_2933.jpg?ex=65dde8d1&is=65cb73d1&hm=71e4330cd737594c9a885a53dad1ec8537b1bf1515d1e993215a3f41d372330e& [13:53:42] LOL [13:54:06] Such a nice view, and you're going in to destroy that 😄 [13:54:14] Well I zoomed in a lot lol [13:54:54] [1/2] Ah yes my favorite human past time of screwing with natures creations [13:54:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206961702067896320/IMG_2934.jpg?ex=65dde9ae&is=65cb74ae&hm=e91bde358810f06d44b4663e911a88d9d443ab7a95df614daaebd7283f9186fe& [13:54:55] :sippy: [14:12:55] [1/2] This way you don't have to separate them. [14:12:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1206966234730463283/image.png?ex=65ddede6&is=65cb78e6&hm=45f95db398f4d5fe3a29411387cb79fe4c2c56fe1f91f9f36c58c64d43f6a0a7& [14:13:32] Link? [14:13:59] Img isn't that great to read [14:14:52] [1/19] ```html [14:14:52] [2/19]
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[14:14:53] [4/19] [[File:Something.png]] [14:14:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Something.png [14:14:53] [5/19] /div [14:14:54] [6/19] /div [14:14:54] [7/19] ``` [14:14:54] [8/19] ```css [14:14:55] [9/19] .img-frame { [14:14:55] [10/19] display: inline-block; [14:14:55] [11/19] overflow: hidden; [14:14:56] [12/19] padding: 0; [14:14:56] [13/19] position: relative; [14:14:57] [14/19] } [14:14:57] [15/19] .img-sheet { [14:14:58] [16/19] display: inline-block; [14:14:58] [17/19] position: absolute; [14:14:59] [18/19] } [14:14:59] [19/19] ``` [14:18:22] Hmm okay [14:27:12] I guess that it has to be a local file huh? [14:28:45] What do you mean? I know this file is from Wikimedia. [14:29:16] Hm? [14:29:47] It didn't work on the Wikimedia file, but my local file worked [14:31:10] Our wiki has `$wgUseQuickInstantCommons` enabled, so we can use it. [14:31:22] I do to [14:31:32] I try again [14:33:11] [1/2] Ah.. now it did. [14:33:12] [2/2] Must have made a typo or so [14:34:39] Does this mean I’m spared from making a crop extension lol? [14:36:10] Yes [14:36:26] I just need to make a template for it [14:36:39] [1/5] ```
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[14:36:40] [3/5] [[File:Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses - geograph.org.uk - 4549541.jpg]] [14:36:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Kingdom_Hall_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses_-_geograph.org.uk_-_4549541.jpg [14:36:40] [4/5] /div [14:36:41] [5/5] /div``` [14:37:28] This is great for the Building- and article of the month boxes on my front page [14:38:28] I'm not sure, but I'm kind of sorry. This would work if he made a template [14:43:17] That's not so difficult. [14:43:46] The difficult part is how to determin how far left you go and how far up [14:52:52] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Image_crop [14:53:04] Works correct [14:53:22] I put this on Dev.Miraheze as well [14:54:07] I just have to make a TemplateStyle instead of Common.css [15:07:43] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Image_crop [15:29:08] Hello! Me and a few other people are trying to work out how to migrate from another wiki (Fandom) over to a miraheze wiki. Would we request that using the "Request a wiki" option? or the "Request import" option? [15:29:34] Both [15:29:42] Request a wiki first, then request an import when it's created [15:29:46] You need to request a wiki, then you can import the dump [15:29:53] We have a full guide [15:29:54] Uh [15:29:56] Somewhere [15:30:17] [[Moving a wiki to Miraheze]], maybe [15:30:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze [15:30:18] [15:30:21] I'm also currently waiting on fandom to update their database dump, cause its pretty outdated. I hope they're not like. petty about it and refuse to update it [15:30:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze#Moving_from_Fandom [15:30:40] If you’re an admin on the wiki you can request it be updated [15:30:42] oh, thank you! This will be helpful! [15:30:43] Else it updates every week [15:30:51] No worries mate 🍻 [15:31:08] unfortunately there aren't any admins at the moment, its not a super well-maintained wiki at the moment [15:31:25] oh huh, ours is a few months old [15:32:22] Well that ain’t right [15:32:31] May I ask what the wiki link is? [15:33:09] oh, apparently I can't post it [15:33:29] Ah, your not verified [15:33:37] it says it contains content blocked by the server, odd [15:33:38] anti spam measurement, need to verify [15:33:39] oh [15:33:42] Try /verify or if Nap is still asleep [15:33:47] #verify [15:34:12] if you can't get request the dump as admin you can use third party tools for creating one [15:34:35] It may be possible to contact fandom staff if the dump is broken [15:34:57] buuuuut I'd rather not lol [15:35:12] unless you're 100% sure you can convince them to delete wiki later [15:35:28] If you have images though you’d need to break TOU and use a script or download manually [15:35:54] although, no admin rights is still a roadblock [15:36:19] Depending on how small the wiki having no admins may help in getting it closed [15:36:26] depends on how active the editors are [15:37:05] [1/2] yeah, fandom offers only text content, so going w/ script to get two in one might be better [15:37:05] [2/2] it all depends on the wiki and you ofc [15:38:12] yeah. There are quite a few images so we've been looking into how to deal with taht [15:38:53] My go to is https://github.com/WikiTeam/wikiteam [15:39:01] Haven’t used for images but I know it work [15:39:14] Again, violates fandoms terms of lock-in I mean use [15:39:34] I know fandom doesn't really like to close their wikis, but because it's a small one, maybe they will. [15:39:36] Use at your own risk if any fandom guys are watching I don’t officially endorse this yadda yadda [15:39:58] Pray to Jimbo Wales and whatever other god will listen [15:40:40] okay, my accounts are connected with wiki-bot, not sure what i need to do now [15:41:37] oh, i think it might have worked? [15:41:49] Here is the wiki: https://ten-words-of-wisdom.fandom.com/wiki/Ten_Words_of_Wisdom_Wiki [15:42:51] on the statistics page, the dump seems to be from last november [15:44:31] [1/2] Oooooh [15:44:31] [2/2] > Please note that a new database dump can only be requested once every seven days. [15:44:34] That’s my bad [15:44:35] Fuck [15:44:36] Uh [15:44:38] oh, huh, we do actually have some admins. idk where i saw there weren't any [15:45:01] Já, ask one of them to click the button [15:45:05] they haven't done anything since november though [15:45:32] If none respond ya gonna need to either use a script or contact fandoom staff [15:48:54] alright. [15:52:53] anybody here interested in discussing each others' worlds with me? [15:53:10] (for context I'm planning on making two games that take place in the same universe, a platformer, and an rpg) [15:54:41] This would probably be better suited to #offtopic [15:54:45] oh I'm sorry [15:54:47] mb [15:59:06] Makes sense, probably the route it’ll go [16:36:40] oh, right now the editors have been more active due to it being a competition, and the new season started recently (i mean the reason we were wanting to migrate is because the wiki started being used again, and fandom is just, unpleasant to use) [16:37:28] so it might not get deleted, but on the bright side a lot of those editors might move over to the miraheze site once it is running [17:36:39] [1/2] Oh, our initial request for a miraheze wiki was declined :( [17:36:39] [2/2] Looks like they thought it was too small in scope... [17:46:58] Sometimes Wikis get declined because they aren't descriptive enough, you could try revising your description [17:47:14] Usually a reason is given though for a decline [17:48:24] yeah, they just said it was too small of a scope. The original request wasn't particularly detailed though, so they sent it back in with some context about us wanting to move from fandom and stuff. [17:49:15] It might be too small scope because of the description, whats included as well as a link to the fandom site might help to convince Miraheze otherwise [17:50:07] What’s the wiki name here [17:53:16] the one on fandom? or the proposed one? [17:53:30] i guess theyd be mostly the same, one just uses an acronym [17:53:37] Proposed [17:53:45] Or the wiki request [17:53:47] Ten Words of Wisdom or TWOW [17:54:19] okay, it was put in as "twowwiki" [17:54:33] or Ten Words of Wisdom Wiki [17:58:32] [1/2] > this is our fandom wikipedia [17:58:32] [2/2] dies [17:58:48] my pet peeve has been triggered \joke [17:59:06] Just joined the server, where exactly do I type /auth to authenticate my account? [17:59:14] anywhere, but the bot is uh' [17:59:17] quirky [17:59:34] you may wanna try the button on the top of #verify [17:59:46] does it say that somewhere? oh no [17:59:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41018#mw-section-comments [18:00:03] a wiki and wikipedia arent completely interchangable terms... [18:00:19] oh, they put it in the request. i see [18:00:29] @reception123 can you clean out #verify a bit and pin the message? dank you [18:01:53] done [19:04:45] how does it work 😭 i tried using it the other day and could not figure out what i was doing [19:04:50] i don't know how to use python [19:06:47] Me who knows only python [19:09:43] what's the general process for using this tool? as far as i can tell it's download python and then run the toll [19:09:52] but it kept asking for other stuff, like kitchen? [19:10:51] maybe you should make a user friendly version lol [19:12:10] I'm on postgre lessons now and it's in linux and it's a headache, I'm just a silly coder not a programmer 🥹 [19:12:20] Kitchen appears to be an all-in-one Python module; if you don't have it installed, just run `pip install kitchen` in Powershell or your OS's equivalent [19:12:50] ... how do i bring that up [19:13:05] oh searching for it worked [19:13:30] [1/2] what [19:13:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207041873089400913/image.png?ex=65de3458&is=65cbbf58&hm=6b41d3dfdd2529a0c6f0e1942ebd51985483e2512feb21e6695f8996005addcd& [19:15:09] You can also try running the command in the legacy Command Prompt; press Win+R and type "cmd.exe" to bring it up [19:15:24] i tried that previously and it also threw an error i think [19:15:49] [1/2] yeah [19:15:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207042464058314812/image.png?ex=65de34e5&is=65cbbfe5&hm=b48d0f0384581bcda18623535689dedbdf898fe3e86e99dd59df30fcf69ecbf4& [19:16:09] do you have python installed with pip? [19:16:45] i. uh. don't know [19:17:07] i got the python version that the tool said to get, which is 2.7.8, but honestly i don't even know if i have the correct files installed [19:17:16] there were four and i don't know which one i should have used [19:17:20] is pip another program? [19:18:45] pip is a command-line tool that allows you to download Python modules; it has been included by default in Python since 3.4, so you may have to download a compatible version for 2.7.8 [19:19:02] awa. okay [19:19:15] apparently the tool doesn't work in 3.4 python, someone else tried [19:21:08] What's the MediaWiki page for file description preloads again? [19:23:34] all i'm getting is stuff about how pip 2.7 isn't supported anymore :squint: :trout: oh hey there's a trout [19:23:59] there's p3 version of the tool somewhere [19:24:13] but I couldn't make it work too [19:25:30] Nvm found it. [19:37:00] @theoneandonlylegroom would love your expertise here: is this a spinoff of PTW? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/40980 [19:37:09] trying to gauge just how much of it is a duplicate and if it's okay to approve [19:37:33] oh boy [19:37:40] it's not even confirmed [19:38:04] half of people think the leaks are real, the other think it's all fake shit [19:38:05] assuming that's a yes lol [19:38:21] but in my eyes [19:38:33] [1/2] > Fandom wiki and the Pizza Tower community doesn't have a really good relation. [19:38:33] [2/2] from what I hear that sounds bout rgith [19:38:36] it's gonna be misinfo central [19:38:53] Will decline then, yep [19:38:53] it's gonna be very speculative [19:39:20] if it will be a real thing tho, I'm sure PTW would cover it [19:39:32] Got it - declined [19:39:36] it's a spinoff [19:40:15] thanks man [19:40:42] ofc [20:13:07] I just came here from the Tidewiki discord [20:13:20] Ah yes. i love tidewiki [20:13:26] anyways [20:13:32] Welcome! :Partyheze: [20:30:29] hey all 👋 if i had a question relating to creating a custom wiki skin, what tag in #support would it fall under? [20:31:48] well, technically you can't create a skin [20:31:52] Probably "CSS/JS" [20:31:52] you can only modify [20:31:56] so CSS/JS [21:30:13] Hi! I was wondering how could I get a few wiki pages deleted? I saw you need sysop permissions and I don't have those (neither does the other user) [21:32:55] on what wiki? [21:33:38] harvestellawiki/Seaslight Database [21:34:41] are you either ronron or emikoala? [21:34:43] File pages that the media didn't come with in the migration and I was going to delete to make sure nobody gets confused with the new uploads [21:34:58] Yes, Ronron [21:35:20] you do have administrator (=sysop), so either something is missed or something isn't correct on wiki [21:36:14] Is there a permissions error when attempting to delete? [21:40:02] It worked on mobile.... maybe I'm just dumb bc on desktop I can't find that option 😓 [21:41:02] [1/2] naturally I'm not a sysop so I don't see it personally, but it should be in this interface [21:41:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207079008349589514/image.png?ex=65de56ee&is=65cbe1ee&hm=089f7abd4b269bd9adc91e21551ec29a4421f038dec9a68dc107be5cdf4ad9c2& [21:41:16] ie, right around purge [21:41:29] do you have mobile mode turned on by a chance? [21:41:45] not sure if minerva nerfs delete button [21:42:44] [1/2] It only appears like this. It's desktop mode [21:42:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207079434918830110/image.png?ex=65de5753&is=65cbe253&hm=c526bbf6dc91b190fbb22351d65db1f865e1f92f8b0acb205a649da7865ccb4b& [21:44:19] Check if the page tools menu is to the right of the article body [21:45:04] not having tools is odd considering I'm not even logged in so it wouldn't be a missing permissions thing [21:45:17] It's not [21:45:50] are you logged in?.. [21:46:00] what you can do in a pinch is to do the action manually, ie https://harvestella.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=delete (obviously wouldn't want to delete the main page) [21:46:08] it's not a matter of logging in because I am not logged in and I see it [21:46:11] wait, maybe i misunderstood what the page tools menu is. [21:46:17] delete button? [21:46:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207080367119671337/image.png?ex=65de5831&is=65cbe331&hm=a04500fad092e5178522d27d2a168c4f41dc82ab0b97b9e22f7d753e27fd639a& [21:46:31] oh there you have it [21:46:41] we still have logouts problem [21:46:42] ah [21:46:47] ok, im dumb 😑 [21:46:51] nah [21:47:04] always a learning curve [21:47:11] happens I suggest to switch to legacy Vector or Timeless [21:47:34] gn [21:47:40] and even past the curve you end up with weird moments, and vector 22 is prone to doing whatever it wants with little reason [21:48:09] You could say it veens sometimes [21:48:57] Thanks! The help page on mediawiki said top of the page I guess I just ignored the rest of it kkkkkrying [21:49:13] well again, vector 22 kinda does whatever it wants [21:49:34] a recent update really flung things around so the help page may not even be entirely up to date [21:49:47] as legroom suggested, legacy or timeless tend to be more consistent [21:51:27] Already did [21:51:49] Thanks again! Have a great night/day! [21:52:25] Do we need to have admin/bureaucrat access on the fandom site to migrate it? or does it just help? [21:53:05] cause at the moment the 2 admins are both inactive, and hard to contact. [21:53:38] it helps if you want to get a dump of xml iirc, don't think that's available to just anyone [21:54:08] scraping is a thing which fandom does not support, at your own risk and requires no permissions in a pinch though [21:54:57] you don't, anyone can access the xml file [21:55:07] ^ then yeah, you're all good [21:55:11] alright. Someone asked if we were a bureaucrat on the fandom server, which we are not, sadly. [21:55:11] the only question is if it is updated [21:55:20] on our application thing [21:55:39] it would add some legitimacy in whatever community exists if you were, but that's not really an issue for miraheze purposes [21:55:49] I sent an email to fandom asking for them to update on the wiki page and then got it from there [21:55:57] no, but i sent their support team a request for that and they said it should be updated within 24 hours, so hopefully we should be fine. [21:55:57] also not an admin there [21:56:03] yeah [22:05:09] really? i haven't been able to access that option myself on a wiki i'm helping to migrate [22:05:37] not an admin, and other non-admins have also not been able to access it [22:06:00] unless we were looking in the wrong spot? [22:06:07] go to the statistics page [22:06:13] under special pages [22:06:37] and scroll to the bottom. it might be outdated but it should be there (assuming this is fandom) [22:06:40] [1/2] here? [22:06:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207085461324169316/image.png?ex=65de5cf0&is=65cbe7f0&hm=3d35fe406e58314b544762393e6ba3789f83ff6d8e72a1eb2e412487ce21c656& [22:06:52] yes, that! [22:07:05] but. there isn't an option to download them :squint: [22:07:14] oh they might not actually have one [22:07:33] maybe they never clicked the button to make one? [22:07:40] argh you have to do that?? [22:07:46] you need to request one [22:07:49] we also have the problem of the admin being inactive [22:07:52] has been for years [22:07:54] sadly you need either admin access to do that or to talk to fandom's support staff [22:07:55] [1/2] Or fandom hid it because they knew of the migration [22:07:56] [2/2] I heard they did that to some wikis that announced they were transferring hosts [22:08:19] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Database_download [22:08:39] i already have the outdated one downloaded just in case [22:08:47] well seems like we're boned [22:08:48] but i hope it gets updated [22:09:03] (unless fandom's support staff lied to me) [22:09:10] i definitely don't have that button and i doubt the other people saw it [22:09:22] I didn't tell I was planning to migrate and got one [22:09:26] you only see that button if youve got admin access [22:09:42] i was unwilling to say so but i had to ask for permission to migrate and transfer ownership for the migration [22:09:44] if the admins are gone you have to send an email to their support [22:09:51] no response so far though 😔 [22:10:05] but they might not do it if they know you want to migrate [22:10:07] idl [22:10:13] i was looking into a scraping tool regardless, i'm not fond of the idea of having to go through fandom's support team [22:10:16] yeah... [22:10:25] we also have a lot of images, which is why we were looking at the scraping tool [22:10:38] right, I suppose that's what should be done [22:10:42] yeah fandom won't do you much good in images [22:11:04] I gave up with the xml because when trying to import it was giving too many errors [22:11:08] ugh [22:11:43] our images hopefully shouldnt be too big of a deal, if worst comes to worst theres only about 900, thats a manageableish amount to do manually if i have to [22:11:56] (and not all of those are important) [22:11:59] :moonch: 900 is a lot [22:12:02] godspeed [22:12:12] i think a lot are also duplicates [22:12:32] There are automatic image scrapers out there, but I think they don't support Python 3 [22:13:25] i mean... we were working on a list of 16,000+ people that joined the second season of the thing [22:13:36] 900 isnt much compared to that at least [22:13:48] yeah i suppose. jeez [22:14:01] i hope it works out regardless [22:16:13] there's python 3 version [22:16:29] it's called MediaWiki Scrapper [22:16:43] but I don't have link it to, it must be on github [22:17:27] just noticed that in the pins lol. i'll poke at that :') maybe it being actually more up to date with python will make figuring it out easier [23:31:19] [1/2] Could someone please check: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1206742544420044830 [23:31:19] [2/2] As I have no idea what else to advice [23:50:45] @syro33 see grabber tools [23:53:08] [1/2] Fandom restricted to admins to hinder forking [23:53:09] [2/2] As a note to all, fandom will never provide an image dump for copyright reasons even if you have permission [23:53:49] 😔 [23:54:16] Just do it manually then [23:54:38] It's boring, but doable [23:56:47] for almost 2k files?? [23:58:33] Thats the point