[00:00:04] ouch, yeah, that is a whole lot [00:00:14] No one to help you with that? [00:00:51] trying to organize the rest of the team but things are a bit scattered. that's why we were looking at scraping tools [00:01:01] even With a team, moving that many files is a pain [00:01:09] I agree [00:03:26] You also have to copy the documentation and license info with each image as well [00:04:12] I do have a python script to grab images, any of you able to use that? [00:04:27] The xml export will have rest of data [00:04:27] Physically, yes [00:04:39] But Fandom ToU disallows it [00:04:56] Depends how you read it [00:05:28] It's cc by sa license, they can't stop you [00:05:42] True [00:06:12] with text, Images don't always have that license [00:06:18] BTW fandom broke bot passwords for 1 form of reclaiming accounts of which they can be nailed under GDPR article 20 violation [00:06:50] Max fine is 4% of global revenue [00:07:02] They allows you to download images but their ToU says you cant automate it [00:07:13] :moonch: [00:07:23] So just rate limit [00:08:29] Their infrastructure is so bad if you open say 50+ images, it can crash their servers. Happened years ago. [00:09:28] Fandom also doesn't respect not stopping blatant plagiarism [00:10:31] Very few people at this point respect their rules of forking, most smart people no longer play by their rules and do it under their nose [00:11:16] А через сколько дней данные обновятся? [00:14:18] Пространство для ног ушло спать (Google Translate) [00:22:29] ? [00:23:09] I think, Legroom is gone to bed [00:23:18] Okey [01:08:10] <.labster, replying to m3w> Rate limit is still using an automated download, which violates the contract you have with Fandom. They would be legally entitled to sue you for breach of contract and recover damages. [01:10:00] legally entitled? how the hell are they going to identify to start with? [01:10:13] <.labster> Of course then they would have to actually show what monetary damages they had, which would be difficult (this is not legal advice) [01:10:55] keep in mind the second they do that, they can be sued for cc by sa violations and failure to handle plagarism [01:11:01] <.labster> Server logs, IP requests at your ISP [01:11:43] <.labster> I’m not aware of a case where CC licenses have ever been litigated [01:11:44] not to mention, them intentionally breaking bot passwords which gets them nailed for each violation of a fine at 4% of global revenue [01:12:24] and is that going to be useful when a throwaway vps is in play? [01:13:03] also keep in mind, the contract is only in play _if_ you registered an account otherwise its meaningless [01:14:30] <.labster> I don’t think that’s true. Miraheze ToU apply whether you have created an account or not, you have still agreed to them by accessing our site. [01:14:36] As far as I know, when you make use of services,you automatically agre to their terms of use [01:14:54] Exactly [01:16:18] the only thing fandom could even claim is causing server strain but even that would be hard to pinpoint based on the amount of daily traffic and amount of editors using a bot flag account [01:17:47] in regards to cc by sa violation, making people jump through countless hoops to get a copy of the data is a violation of the license itself [01:17:52] <.labster> Damages would be very hard to prove IMO [01:18:30] yep [01:19:02] if they actually cared, they would set api traps but they can't cause it would interfere with editors using a bot [01:19:41] the point is, had they provided dumps on request; no one would use api scraping tools [01:19:50] thus rendering everything moot [01:20:32] <.labster> Thankfully, to the best of my knowledge, all image dumps provided to Miraheze were obtained completely legally and in full compliance with Fandom’s Terms of Use [01:21:40] Fandom staff do not provide image dumps under any circumstances, there is no way to comply without manually doing it which I severely doubt Miraheze sysadmins are doing [01:23:17] I have yet to see such dump provided for any wiki fork [01:24:42] Sannse has literally said that they consulted with internal lawyers and were told no [01:26:53] <.labster> Miraheze staff sysadmins do not help generate image dumps on other services, nor are they authorized to do so on behalf of Miraheze [01:27:20] <.labster> What volunteers do in their private time is their own business [01:30:30] whatever the case, there is no legal or compliant way [01:30:57] outside of manual [01:31:18] [1/3] I'm off to bed. [01:31:18] [2/3] 2:30 am here [01:31:18] [3/3] 🛌 💤 [01:31:27] Have a nice whatever 😉 [02:07:11] Guys quick question [02:07:18] How can you make miraheze support animations [02:09:28] Pardon? [02:16:28] do you mean allow upload of gifs or some other file format? [02:17:54] I think so- [02:24:40] animated images take up a lot more storage and thus could easily exceed the upload size limits [02:24:50] Aye [02:24:57] But you can enable in ManageWIki [02:26:26] not sure how ManageWiki allows configuration for allowed file types, some form of checkboxes in a grid would probably avoid human error requiring intervention to reverse errors [02:26:48] even a series of checkboxes would avoid [02:28:42] Its a multiselect field. It can't have errors as there is preset options. [02:28:46] I can't really explain it, but I wanted to make a template when clicked would turn the icon and make the textbox appear(maybe impossible) It's like the [02:28:57] The problem of non-animated thumbnails can be worked around with css [02:31:34] so you want to incorporate extension:inputbox into a template and have it default hidden until a user clicks the icon image? this can probably be done using css and javascript [02:32:33] can be done with applying and removing a css class that triggers a javascript toggle to show/hide the input box [02:33:18] [1/2] https://astroneer.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Spoil [02:33:18] [2/2] sorry fandom [02:33:25] I tthought there was a built in class for that but maybe I am thinking of something else. [02:35:57] there is a built-in class for show/hide, whether it is compatible with an image...I am doubtful [02:36:17] Ah that must be what I was thinking then. [02:36:49] :O [02:36:55] found the code [02:37:02] [1/8] ```js [02:37:02] [2/8] //spoiler [02:37:02] [3/8] $(document).ready(function (){ [02:37:02] [4/8] $('.spoiler-content').on('click', function(){ [02:37:03] [5/8] $(this).toggleClass('show'); [02:37:03] [6/8] }); [02:37:03] [7/8] }); [02:37:04] [8/8] ``` [02:37:19] I'll study and test these [02:37:45] [1/19] ```css [02:37:45] [2/19] / Template:Spoil / [02:37:45] [3/19] .spoiler-content{ [02:37:46] [4/19] background-color: rgba(127,127,127,1); [02:37:46] [5/19] transition: all 0.3s; [02:37:46] [6/19] cursor: pointer; [02:37:47] [7/19] } [02:37:47] [8/19] .spoiler-content > span{ [02:37:47] [9/19] opacity: 0; [02:37:47] [10/19] transition: all 0.3s; [02:37:48] [11/19] } [02:37:48] [12/19] .spoiler-content.show, [02:37:48] [13/19] .spoiler-content.hover:hover{ [02:37:49] [14/19] background-color: rgba(127,127,127,0); [02:37:49] [15/19] } [02:37:50] [16/19] .spoiler-content.show > span, [02:37:50] [17/19] .spoiler-content.hover:hover > span{ [02:37:51] [18/19] opacity: 1; [02:37:51] [19/19] }``` [02:39:15] whether it is possible to replace the show/hide on inputbox, no idea [02:39:20] that is a new idea to consider [02:41:03] Thankyou for this info [02:41:16] you are welcome [02:44:39] ok that is weird, that wiki linked has no bureaucrats [02:46:15] figured it was something like that to avoid actual human input [04:39:19] Yep [07:23:43] I've finally fixed https://grimtown.miraheze.org/wiki/ARP-98A21F19#Attachment_B with the weird tabs. I just had to recreate the page, regex replace \t\t\t with a space and that fixed it [07:32:29] Is there a way to hook up an external Blazegraph instance for use with Wikibase's Query Service for a Miraheze-hosted Wikibase instance? [07:33:02] I'd like to run SPARQL queries on my wiki's Wikibase. [07:59:21] Hey, I'm trying to figure out how to request an import from another wiki. How do I figure out the target database name? the Special:ManageWiki/core thing did not work on fandom. [08:00:58] oh WAIT im supposed to do that on the miraheze wiki, i got it, whoops [08:39:53] probably. Make a task on [[Phorge]] and you can discuss that with SRE in detail. [08:39:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [08:39:53] [08:40:14] Got it. Thanks! [12:22:44] [1/3] Anyone who can figure this out? [12:22:44] [2/3] I can't seem to get CET time to work: [12:22:44] [3/3] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/JW_Meeting:Community-portal/Times [12:35:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207304133560766537/image.png?ex=65df2898&is=65ccb398&hm=0f71251a96900aae3bd758506fc7925b33d8f673767ad582f67a4b16a2c85862& [12:36:56] [1/3] ```{{#ifeq:{{LOCALHOUR}}|{{#time:H|now +{{#expr:1-{{#var:CET}}}} hours}}|'''}}CE{{#ifeq:{{#var:CET}}|1|S}}T{{#ifeq:{{LOCALHOUR}}|{{#time:H|now +{{#expr:1-{{#var:CET}}}} hours}}|'''}}``` [12:36:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23ifeq:Template:%7b%7bLOCALHOUR [12:36:56] [2/3] and [12:36:56] [3/3] ```{{#ifeq:{{LOCALHOUR}}|{{#time:H|now +{{#expr:1-{{#var:CET}}}} hours}}|'''}}{{#time: h:iA|now +{{#expr:1-{{#var:CET}}}} hours}}{{#ifeq:{{LOCALHOUR}}|{{#time:H|now +{{#expr:1-{{#var:CET}}}} hours}}|'''}}``` [12:36:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23ifeq:Template:%7b%7bLOCALHOUR [15:00:41] [1/6] q: For those of you who run wikis about a piece of media (e.g. a tv series), how do you prefer to do appearances? I've seen wikis with like, separate pages for characters who appear in a lot of the media and I think that works very well, but I think those usually have a special prefix so idk if that's something that can be done using a special page or not. [15:00:41] [2/6] And, I've also seen appearances done with tables, for example, on the character page not a separate 'appearances' page, though I still think the 'appearances' page tends to look cleaner. [15:00:42] [3/6] So yeah, [15:00:42] [4/6] 1) Is there a special pre-set up way of doing 'appearances' pages [15:00:42] [5/6] and [15:00:43] [6/6] 2) How do you guys prefer to list your apperances? [15:03:17] This would fit better in #offtopic [15:03:30] Oh sorry, I'll move it there, thank you [15:09:53] How long do I need to wait for my wiki request to be accepted? [15:14:00] Generally a few hours; when I was a wiki creator, the average time was a few minutes [15:14:25] Also for wikis such as Minecraft what source do they use? [15:14:39] What do you mean what source? [15:14:50] From what I'm seeing whatever it is seems to have a lot of flexibility in appearance [15:14:59] like what website/source code [15:15:04] There are a lot of options for skins [15:15:10] or is it all custom coded with something? [15:15:14] MH runs on MediaWiki [15:15:22] Shoulda known that [15:15:54] Your request will be reviewed within 24 hours [15:16:04] Obv in the Miraheze wiki the opinions are gonna be biased but is Mediawiki the best wiki platform to use? [15:16:28] I was recommended this but I'm still on the edge of what website to use [15:16:53] personally, I like to use old timey paper and quill & ink [15:17:35] What other options are you considering? [15:17:40] MediaWiki [15:18:05] Seems larger, more flexible and you can customise your url without having whatever the websites name is [15:18:30] Unless someone else here wants to say otherwise? [15:18:41] MediaWiki is a wiki engine, not a platform [15:18:50] Fair point [15:22:25] Hm.. [15:22:33] Guess I can stay on this place [15:22:48] and I'm just saying this place cause The name's confusing :/ [15:22:59] So, am i able to get a custom Url? [15:23:31] not like WIKI.miraheze.org [15:23:40] But Eg. Wiki X.org [15:23:45] Is that p[ossible? [15:24:07] 24 Hours?! [15:24:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains pretty sure it says here [15:24:53] There is a limited wiki creator volunteer set [15:24:58] So yes [15:25:10] I’ll get to it by end of day at the latest [15:25:12] Are my chances though of getting accepted higher or lower? [15:25:24] I haven’t been able to review the request yet [15:25:27] What is the wiki [15:25:33] Ages of Conflict [15:25:40] Honestly can't seem to even find my request [15:25:47] But I def made it [15:25:49] I’ll take a look [15:26:04] And will let you know once I do [15:26:09] Thanks [15:26:27] Or I assume you’ll just get a notification through Miraheze [15:27:05] [1/2] But dose your website have flexibility for Eg. like the minecraft wiki? [15:27:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207347286833766490/image.png?ex=65df50c8&is=65ccdbc8&hm=76016ee3841f7f240909a7a4e2b698e1e632ba34acc98c57494886a676bf8efd& [15:27:20] Not exactly but just like to that sorta degree of customisation? [15:29:01] You are free to customise your wiki however you wish. We do not have a customisation policy. [15:29:23] How's skins and customisation work? [15:29:26] (within the parameters of sanity, of course) [15:29:29] Dose it work with like CSS? [15:29:31] Yes. [15:29:33] Nice [15:29:39] I got a bud that's great at CSS [15:32:00] oh nice! We've got a few css helpers in here if you need any assistance! [15:35:13] [1/3] You can do almost anything you want with a Miraheze wiki in terms of customization. I do believe the MC wiki is self hosted, so in theory that does give them a little more, but more than likely you could replicate their look on an miraheze wiki too, but also a lot more things they have to maintain themselves. The software of both Miraheze wiki's and MC's wiki are MediaWiki, in fact l [15:35:13] [2/3] ike 99% of all wiki's that exists on the Internet is running MediaWiki, which also means even if you do get a Miraheze wiki, and in the future consider going somewhere else, or self-host you can do that and transfer everything over as it is (via image dumps and xml dumps) [15:35:13] [3/3] And yes you can use a custom domain for a miraheze wiki too, however you have to buy and pay for it and its upkeep yourself, you are only gonna get the xxx.miraheze.org for free [15:35:57] Ah [15:36:21] Wait so a custom url would be like a Monthly ore one-time payment? [15:36:56] Depends on where you buy the domain from. [15:37:00] Wikipedia, Fandom, Miraheze, wiki.gg - all run on MediaWiki [15:37:25] it's the most popular wiki engine as for now [15:37:30] Ye [15:37:34] and then there's wikidot [15:37:49] Only thing Ik abt it is that it host's the backrooms wiki [15:38:01] and that's the SCP Wiki run on? wikiMedia too? [15:38:04] yeah, which is proprietary closed source software [15:38:15] SCP, and D&D I believe [15:38:24] also one of Dark Souls wikis [15:38:52] my mistake, somehow missed long reply above [15:41:17] That can happens sometimes heh, heck sometimes discord just decided to not load the most recent messages in a channel before you write something for god knows what reason xD [15:41:36] Good to Know! [15:41:46] Well I look forward to hosting my Wiki here [15:42:55] Although if I could ask, do you have a "largest" wiki here? Like a wiki significantly larger than others [15:43:42] wmcloud can show [15:43:49] lenme find the link [15:46:24] No idea what the actually largest wiki is, but there is always meta.miraheze.org ofc, which is the Miraheze's own main wiki, and thus also where you find stuff like global policies of the farm etc, and RfC's (reqeust for comment), if someone have proposals for changes to the farm as a whole and a lot more. [15:46:57] https://wikistats.wmcloud.org/display.php?t=mh [15:47:03] I think it might be one of the japanese-speaking ones [15:47:31] oh it's bluepages huh [15:51:52] Oh nice [15:52:03] agesofconflict.wiki only costs £2.35/yr [15:52:13] no way [15:52:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207353660636663828/image.png?ex=65df56b8&is=65cce1b8&hm=3da04f9468a28956231c5c889f182367b451fa447833f309b50d68ab74f35398& [15:52:30] .wiki is like on the expensive side of things [15:52:42] I mean it's the name yk [15:52:48] it's pretty massive, I believe it uses some db extension [15:52:48] It's not like a rare one [15:52:58] If it was 3 characters prolly yeah [15:53:04] aoc.wiki was taken too [15:53:08] ashes of creation [15:53:38] we bought gogigantic.wiki for ~5$, but renewal gonna be ~25$ [15:53:44] Ah [15:53:48] on namecheap [15:54:00] porkbun is a bit cheaper [15:54:10] Is that made with miraheze? [15:54:57] [1/2] the wiki is gogigantic.miraheze.org [15:54:58] [2/2] Mira lets wikis to attach a custom domain, which you should buy and keep by yourself [15:55:23] so now it's gogigantic.wiki [15:55:51] fun story, some other guy wanted to fork the wiki to github - somehow, and bought gigantic.wiki domain [15:56:02] Looks sick af [15:56:08] nice job [15:56:34] but when I actually started forking to Miraheze, he suddenly lost all interest in the game, left discord, and deleted his namecheap account [15:56:42] so the domain was quickly scalped [15:56:47] Oh damn [15:57:19] we decided to use gogigantic then, since official game channel and sm accounts used this as handle [15:57:51] Ah alr [15:58:06] So I gotta wait for a few hours or so for my wiki to get accepted? [15:58:18] Then wait again for data to be imported [15:58:23] yeah, until a WC looks at it [15:58:29] yes [15:58:42] Usually a few hours, but depends on when a WC have time, everyone are volunteers afterall [15:58:48] Alr [15:59:27] Which really is crazy to me that a wiki farm can be run 100% on donations and volunteers [16:00:44] you guys need to take a look at cohost [16:01:30] seems like the best towards users alternative to the big sm networks [16:02:16] and it's centralised, not like mastodon [16:02:37] but because people are hesitant to try new shit it feels very quiet [16:02:54] ? [16:03:12] it's regarding volunteer ran platforms nowadays [16:03:25] offtopic lol [16:04:13] Ah [16:04:16] Alr [16:10:34] q) trying to add a template to multiple pages. what should I be 'replacing' so the template goes at the start of the page? [16:13:06] in fact it adds some dl and dd tags that also fuck my style [16:16:16] [1/2] MC Wiki is hosted by Weird Gloop. [16:16:17] [2/2] The wiki's using "Vector" skin, which is available on MH (and basically on all wiki farms, except Fandom). However, it's partially modified, so you may want to check the code before using it [16:24:45] I would say Pizza Tower Wiki on Miraheze is nearly on the same level of modifying a skin (in this case it's Timeless) - mostly CSS and a bit of JS [16:25:22] even indie wikis don't change skins in the core, the modify over it [16:25:40] Inkipedia, Zelda Wiki [16:27:01] wdym [16:28:09] I have a little banner for my stub pages, and I'm trying to add that banner+category to those pages using the mass edit tool [16:30:37] [1/3] I'm still not sure what you mean [16:30:37] [2/3] you already have pages w/ stub banner in a non-template form, and want to replace w/ template? [16:30:37] [3/3] or you just want to add category to pages using banner template? [16:32:32] [1/2] in second case, you just can make banner template to add category by itself [16:32:33] [2/2] `[[Category:...]]/includeonly` [16:32:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:... [16:33:13] so once cache refreshes (or you force it w/ dummy edits or purge), pages w/ banner will in the category [16:35:33] it's pretty usual thing w/ stub and delete templates [16:36:42] I want to use the mass editor to add the stub template to multiple pages that should have it but are missing it. I know how to add something en masse to the end of a page, but I can't figure out how to add smth to the beginning [16:37:31] all of those pages have something common like infobix at the beginning? [16:37:43] I don't think so [16:37:59] they all have a heading [16:38:11] can you show? [16:38:41] finish my tea in a bit [16:39:32] [1/4] kk, on it [16:39:32] [2/4] https://decapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Millennia [16:39:32] [3/4] https://decapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Rallon [16:39:32] [4/4] https://decapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Mortimus [16:40:57] no, do that now! [16:50:25] [1/10] okay so i have this model [16:50:26] [2/10] ```html [16:50:26] [3/10]
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{{{title|}}}/p [16:50:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7btitle [16:50:27] [6/10] {{{count|}}}/span [16:50:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bcount [16:50:27] [7/10] /span [16:50:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bpercentage [16:50:28] [8/10] /div [16:50:28] [9/10] /div [16:50:28] [10/10] ``` [16:50:42] but for some reason a p tag keep appearing above my spans [16:51:17] [1/2] which cause me problem [16:51:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207368476918812682/image.png?ex=65df6484&is=65ccef84&hm=1d7dcb754ba4451219c24497280ec53d54db000dac474d5d6bbd19358210821d& [17:05:14] Tbh I want to do a complete skin redesign of my wiki that basically turns my wiki into some kind of pseudosocial platforms [17:06:20] you might like some of less popular skins [17:06:31] w/ bootstrap [17:07:05] I'd honestly design the wiki skin myself I just don't know where to start exactly. [17:07:18] oh hey @bwm0 not to be buggy but you able to review the wiki application sometime soon? [17:08:54] [1/5] idk what you are using for replace, but I guess it's gonna be [17:08:55] [2/5] `=` [17:08:55] [3/5] to [17:08:55] [4/5] `{{stub}} [17:08:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:stub [17:08:55] [5/5] =` [17:09:12] I'm not sure if row break is possible [17:09:55] By end of day today. [17:10:09] It is currently 9:09 am for me. [17:10:19] Oh.. It's 5 PM for me atm [17:10:56] It will be taken care of. [17:11:05] Sorry to be rlly buggy [17:11:13] As long as you have notifications turned on for Miraheze, you’ll know when it’s done. l [17:12:33] It’s all good - just remember that we’re all volunteers and all have outside lives too. [17:12:39] Ofc [17:13:05] Just a bit annoying you have to get wikis accepted instead of being instantly created [17:14:47] reviews has to be done [17:15:04] automatic process on fandom has lead to some interesting cases [17:18:42] making a skin from scratch is kinda challenging, but CosmisAlpha done that (he created Cosmos), so maybe he can give a direction [17:33:46] [1/3] question [17:33:46] [2/3] how this happens? [17:33:46] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207379167570690118/2024-02-14_20_33_27.png?ex=65df6e79&is=65ccf979&hm=ed4c6512d2adcd00f64369ba39060816ed3122f0751d293665ca478b4fe8ca89& [17:34:24] and for some reasons people keep creating an account and then an alt [17:34:26] by a logged in user using Special:CreateAccount [17:34:35] why they do that only they know [17:34:44] any way to stop? [17:34:48] not like it breaks any rules so [17:35:10] @cosmicalpha do you have any pointers? [17:35:22] we are also drowning in users sharing very similar unoriginal names and we aren't even sure if they are actually different people [17:36:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207379834234347540/2024-02-14_20_36_16.png?ex=65df6f18&is=65ccfa18&hm=209cedc60689bf48f857225870c57c53ffd5b8b664e1d7ea652061d501c30029& [17:37:07] I thought about askin Agent to set up some user name mask to decline such names lol [17:39:59] [1/2] ```action == "createaccount" [17:40:00] [2/2] & accountname irlike "pizza"``` [17:45:06] [1/2] I've been trying to figure out how to get rid of these extra tags permanently and it's driving me crazy; I have a feeling there's an option to change them in ManageWiki, but I haven't found it yet [17:45:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207382015893053542/Screenshot_20240214_113205_Firefox.jpg?ex=65df7120&is=65ccfc20&hm=2d23b7502cf4c93ef29759c7ecd1e766d367088a3e37f57dfd74e511c50858c0& [17:45:54] I don't have these? but I bever changed my RC filters [17:46:04] except for edits/days in preferences [17:46:22] I think maybe you should save clean variant [17:46:33] is that for abuse filter? [17:46:41] Yes [17:47:08] can we also prohibit second account creation from the same IP? [17:47:19] I know it's a thing for banned users [17:47:27] but like as preventive measure [17:48:45] I want to change the default RC tags; the extra ones still show up when I visit a private tab [17:49:06] I don't know if that's possible [17:52:39] I never poked abusefilter, where I should add the code again? [17:59:00] Ideally you'll want to create a new filter, paste the code in the large textbot, and check "Prevent the user from performing the action in question" [18:26:51] will look later [18:55:00] loading issues for anyone else? [18:57:13] @platyellow we're aware of performance issues and investigating [19:00:49] Yup, same for me [19:01:19] Great time for coffee 😄 [19:01:20] We've placed wikis on one of our databases into read only while we investigate and resolve some issues [19:01:28] There may be downtime shortly [19:12:33] @rodejong @platyellow: should be better [19:12:55] Yeah, already noticed. Thanks [19:13:54] Shout if it reoccurs [19:15:15] Thanks, its working like a treat [19:25:17] anyone think it’s worth it to update [[Discord]] and it’s subpages? [19:25:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Discord [19:25:23] [19:26:36] If someone's going to keep updated [19:37:46] I can probably take 10 minutes to do it later [19:38:11] Sure [19:40:42] Not to put you off, but aren't you taking up too much hay on your fork? [19:41:07] Interesting expression. But I get what ya mean [19:41:19] (Dutch expression) [19:41:23] If I have more important things I’ll put it off [19:41:35] But if I’m bored and have nothing to do may as well [19:42:06] As for the bot, coding is what I do for fun in place of video games so [19:42:12] Just make sure it's not a great beginning, which never gets completed 😉 [19:43:08] I used to do the same, and suddenly I had too many plans, and too many disappointed people as I couldn't finish it. [19:43:37] Me coded [19:43:39] Lmao [19:43:42] But thanks Ro [19:44:04] Just taking care of my buddy 😉 [19:52:43] :huggies: [20:41:34] @.labster please see DMs urgently [20:42:07] That’s never a good sign [20:42:44] <.labster> I don't have any DMs yet? [20:42:48] just sent [20:47:28] private person-to-person DMs on Discord are kind of broken at the moment, just fyi [20:47:38] Group DMs appear to still be working [20:47:48] really? [20:47:56] howd they mess that up [20:48:07] Oh, they just get a 'cannot be delivered' red timeout message [20:48:30] Seems like it's intermittent, though. [20:49:48] Really???? [20:50:09] Huh [20:50:10] https://discordstatus.com/incidents/89nxc66z8rsj [20:50:29] Seems like they got it fixed, then. [20:50:55] Was still happening sporadically at least 10 min ago [20:55:33] was happening a few minutes ago but think it’s fixed [21:06:24] I voted on the latest RfC on the new content policy. [21:09:20] [1/2] Can regular users close RfC proposals? The UCP only specifies that only permission requests may be closed by non-privileged users [21:09:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207433419529916416/Screenshot_20240214_150809_Firefox.jpg?ex=65dfa100&is=65cd2c00&hm=757f4f9038576c91b83614707d8ea145210b0ac101d2f73b0ce98ee595b51a37& [21:12:21] I originally created that proposal [21:12:22] so yes [21:12:43] I accidentally voted support on 3.0 instead of abstain. [21:12:57] Heya [21:13:10] You can change your vote [21:13:22] thank you, I will get it fixed. [21:16:49] I want to thank WikiTide for making Miraheze a great host. [21:18:17] Miraheze which was around since 2015: :ThinkingHardMH: [21:19:41] Yeah I mean WikiTide wouldn't even have existed, if Miraheze didn't exist in the first place [21:20:00] 'Cause before then, it veened a lot [21:20:08] Eh [21:20:17] WT forked from MH [21:20:28] So we made ourselves great [21:20:32] :SunglassesThumbsUp: [21:20:52] But the tide folks are incredibly cool yes [21:21:02] 🔁 [21:31:20] The argument is still valid. WikiTide was able to experiment with newer tech and chose to unfork to help Miraheze because a great host while sacrificing itself [21:32:03] For which we will be forever grateful [21:32:44] Judging by what I saw around the merge, I’m fairly sure Miraheze would have fallen apart entirely by now [21:34:07] it seemed to be going the way of shoutwiki or editthis [21:34:39] Not familiar with either so can’t comment [21:35:02] it might take a bit of looking for sw but you can get a pretty good gist just by looking at editthis at a glance [21:36:03] :thumbs_up: [21:39:49] sw's issue comes down to incredibly glacial development, some long-broken features most infamously the inability to make new wikis, and nonexistent day to day oversight [21:44:51] @bwm0 [21:44:59] The proposal was declined? [21:45:22] did you want me to explain the game more was that it? [21:45:58] I did not handle your request, I was planning on it later [21:46:05] oh right [21:46:07] So I would ask the handling wiki creator [21:46:15] dosen't say who it was [21:46:31] what wiki [21:46:48] Ages of Conflict [21:46:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41073 [21:47:36] @jph2 [21:49:37] @j0sh2 can you amend the subdomain too to avoid acronym that could be anything? [21:50:02] I was going to buy the domain Agesofconflict.wiki [21:50:15] but the wiki hasn't been even created yet [21:50:21] So I've not bought it yet [21:50:43] That’s fine [21:50:49] Cool, I'd amend the subdomain to agesofconflictwiki as the reviewer asked for a better subdomain [21:51:13] Yeah, not like it would make a difference with a custom domain [21:51:18] I'm sure @jph2 will look soon to see their thoughts [21:51:25] Hm [21:51:27] So.. [21:51:43] I thought the issue was they wanted more info on the wiki or smth [21:52:06] Do i just need to wait for them to re-review it? [21:52:12] Ja [21:52:29] Update the subdomain and jph should get back to it soon enough [21:52:41] Schluchzen auf Deutsch [21:52:53] How Would i uh do that? [21:52:53] I do not speak much of the German [21:52:55] Same [21:52:59] google translate [21:53:07] I just very much like the language and have made a habit of saying Ja [21:53:14] Si [21:53:17] (Italiano) [21:53:20] <3 compound nouns [21:53:26] Thoughts Spanish [21:53:27] Well same [21:53:44] Português e melhor [21:53:51] Anyways [21:53:57] Right [21:54:09] What do I gotta do again [21:54:37] I actually haven’t used Request Wiki myself so i don’t know the exact steps but you should edit the subdomain from aoc to agesofconflict or smt [21:54:49] Add as much detail as you want to the description if you haven’t already [21:54:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41073#mw-section-edit [21:55:00] Changed the URL [21:55:01] And jph should get round to it [21:55:02] On the edit request tab, you can update the requested URL/subdomain [21:55:08] Did so [21:55:10] Gucci [21:55:14] Perfect, I see it on my side too. 🙂 [21:55:24] Is it jsut them I need to wait for? [21:55:27] Yep [21:55:46] could that be a while? [21:55:49] Actually it may be a me glitch [21:55:56] But it looks like the description reverted [21:56:09] It did? [21:56:20] Oh [21:56:26] I rewrite it to [21:56:28] [1/2] @notaracham do you also see this? [21:56:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207445279679185056/image0.jpg?ex=65dfac0b&is=65cd370b&hm=9296d3703962323c4b8debe678418764371099f8171bb885e526900ecbcaf5c5& [21:56:32] It was longer before [21:56:37] Yeah [21:56:40] i write smth else [21:56:49] Don’t edit it yes i wanna see if NA sees it [21:56:57] If it’s not a visual glitch to some [21:56:57] jsut edited it back to what I wrote [21:57:03] Ah aight [21:57:07] nope? [21:57:07] Odd [21:57:24] Yeah, it showed the same on my end too. Returned description is approvable [21:57:37] Wonder if it was a network thing or the browser resending old data or if it’s RequestWiki goofing [21:57:50] If the latter may be worth looking into [21:57:56] Should I just post what I said here or..? [21:58:05] It’s fine [21:58:13] As long as the request is detailed [21:58:42] "ages of conflict is a god simulator game, You can play and create maps and scenarios with nations watching them fight. The wiki will contain info such as the contributors to the game, base scenarios and maps along with updates. (Server blocked links) The fandom wiki if you'd like to quickly look more into it." [21:58:49] You need to verify [21:58:54] hm? [21:59:04] Linking your MH account with discord [21:59:14] How would I do that? [21:59:15] to post links [21:59:15] #verify or /auth [21:59:23] Neither love the work very often do [21:59:33] Oh done [21:59:41] There we go [21:59:49] https://aocw.fandom.com/wiki/Age_of_Conflict_Wiki [22:00:02] what's the Wiki I'm tryna move [22:00:58] You gonna import a dump? [22:01:15] When fandom finally gives it to me yeah [22:01:57] Are you an admin on the wiki? [22:02:03] Yep [22:02:27] Shouldn’t take too long if you request an update at Special:Statstics [22:02:37] did so like a few hours ago [22:02:45] mabey 10 hours [22:02:58] Wiki approved on this side rather than making you wait, wishing you luck on the Fandom side [22:03:27] Thanks [22:03:41] Niice thanks guys [22:09:35] Still new to this.. [22:10:07] Can someone help me out with some bits? [22:10:38] Feel free to ask questions as they come up. I'm offline for rest of today, but we have a pretty large community of folks w/ experience who can probably get you started. [22:10:39] Which bites? [22:10:50] Firstly how do i set my logo? [22:11:42] so, i found out even if fandom doesnt give you the database dump, they have an option to export a bunch of pages at once [22:12:11] Oh right [22:12:15] Oh? [22:12:18] so i did that (though i forgot all the templates and categories so it was kinda broken still) [22:12:18] ^ [22:12:18] How so? [22:12:38] Don’t need to bump lol [22:12:55] Sorry [22:12:57] I don’t recall the exact name but all config is in [[Special:ManageWiki]] [22:12:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki [22:12:58] [22:13:01] theres just an "Export Page" thing in the special options, that puts all the ones you select in an xml file [22:13:01] On your wiki ofc [22:13:06] Oh yeah [22:13:28] Common MediaWiki W [22:13:36] I don't think the logo option is there [22:13:54] Hm [22:13:58] Special:ManageWiki/settings [22:14:01] I’ll look on my wiki [22:14:09] Oh yeah there’s subpages [22:14:13] :bonk: [22:14:17] The additional settings page has most of what you're going to need to customize appearance [22:14:19] My apologies [22:14:25] Where? [22:14:28] Styling tab [22:14:34] where's uh that? [22:14:34] Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-styling [22:14:45] Extensions is under /extensions also [22:14:53] Hm [22:15:02] Also permissions [22:15:21] [1/2] Ah, you're extremely new, so to clarify, when people say things like special:managewiki, they mean something like: [22:15:21] [2/2] ```https://yourwikiurl.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-styling``` [22:15:30] Alr [22:15:32] also [22:15:37] How Do i choose my image? [22:15:47] Eg. The set image is https://static.miraheze.org/metawiki/3/35/Miraheze_Logo.svg [22:16:05] You'll first need to upload the image you want to use, then navigate to that file's page on your wiki. [22:16:17] do i upload it on my wiki/ [22:16:20] Once there, you'll wnat to get the static version of that link. [22:16:21] Yep [22:16:25] Thanks [22:16:30] [[Special:Upload]] I think [22:16:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Upload [22:16:31] [22:16:39] Again your wiki [22:16:41] Yep, except on your wiki, not meta [22:17:25] I uh.. [22:17:29] don't see the diffrence? [22:17:35] I changed the image [22:17:43] May need to purge cache [22:17:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207450673541808148/image.png?ex=65dfb111&is=65cd3c11&hm=e268dbd23311a3c275da4efe4d011792f1332e3a8fa4654f7930634239811f35& [22:18:03] What's that? [22:18:16] Basically, your browser is lazy [22:18:32] Oh right [22:18:33] It don’t wanna go through to work of talking to Miraheze if it don’t need to [22:18:44] So instead of sending a request for ever page load [22:18:49] It’s saves on your computer [22:18:49] Aha, so you've not used the correct link format. [22:18:50] Ctrl-F5? [22:18:54] [[Cache]] [22:18:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Cache [22:18:55] [22:18:56] Oop [22:19:01] Meant WP [22:19:08] [1/3] On this page: [22:19:09] [2/3] https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Logo.png [22:19:09] [3/3] See where it says Logo.png below the image? [22:19:11] [[w:Cache]] [22:19:11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache [22:19:12] [22:19:20] Yeah? [22:19:33] If you click that or right click on it, you'll see that it has a different url that starts with static. [22:19:41] oooh [22:19:42] Ty [22:20:02] That's the URL you need to pop into the box. You may also need to supply this in the setting called icon in addition to logo, depending on the skin you're using. [22:20:18] Since some skins use one or the other. [22:20:40] Still hasn't worked.. [22:20:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207451408287141949/image.png?ex=65dfb1c1&is=65cd3cc1&hm=3463ed54fbdfb1f3a6dc560859f63efd165ef2991f84fb9119ea43432ab03c9c& [22:21:04] Can you also put it down here too? [22:21:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207451476817875075/image.png?ex=65dfb1d1&is=65cd3cd1&hm=e57aac2d40e0d66834174c662875ca2bf980bbe2ecc5018698c9e0ed1a6869a2& [22:21:09] k [22:21:57] Still nothing.. [22:22:13] Try purging cache again maybe [22:22:22] Ctrl-F5? [22:22:29] It can take 5-10 minutes to start showing up. [22:22:37] It's.. [22:22:40] Shown up.. [22:22:42] Akwardly.. [22:22:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207451916037267496/image.png?ex=65dfb23a&is=65cd3d3a&hm=72dd1f82de11cf5b21825030d5146f1c8d0e58fa70cb9eeeb1a83d5b85782310& [22:22:58] Cool [22:23:02] Not rlly [22:23:09] :thumbsup: [22:23:14] Oh [22:23:15] It's small and squished [22:23:18] :9 [22:23:29] :ThumbsDownUncool: [22:23:40] How Do i fix it..? [22:24:32] You can't make it bigger in vector 2022 [22:24:43] ? [22:25:04] Vector 2022 is the skin, that's how big the logo is in that skin. [22:25:15] You'll need to either make your image easier to read at that resolution, or change skin [22:25:36] Let's just move onto a diffrent part before the logo.. [22:25:42] Is skin the colour scheme..? [22:26:02] If not what is [22:26:05] skin is the entire thing [22:26:08] how the page looks [22:26:16] there's dozens of skins to choose from [22:26:33] If you want a clean skin that has a large logo, I use the Timeless skin. It's nice <3 [22:26:41] Can I customise it..? [22:26:43] [1/2] Think of skins as 'how things are laid out on the page' and how you navigate the wiki. [22:26:44] [2/2] CSS is the thing that controls what colors appear and what shape those things are [22:26:48] I want it to be the same one as my old wiki [22:26:56] https://aocw.fandom.com/wiki/Age_of_Conflict_Wiki [22:27:06] Could that be possible? [22:27:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Skins is where you can find what skins are available, the Cosmos skin is probably the closest to Fandom's in layout [22:27:56] Much of what exists on Fandom can be replicated through cosmos skin + borrowing whatever CSS exists over on your Fandom wiki [22:28:02] K [22:28:07] where do I edit my skin? [22:28:42] you use the magical CSS to do it [22:28:59] the Cosmos skin is the easiest to customize because you can customize in ManageWiki [22:29:00] MediaWiki:Common.css? [22:29:13] but for every other skin, you'll need to edit MediaWiki:.css [22:29:28] I'm confused 😭 [22:29:38] Say I want the Timeless skin [22:29:44] How would I go about that [22:29:55] Yeah CSS is a whole "language", you'd need to give it considerable time to learn if you want to customise further. [22:30:19] So the fandom wiki has a CSS page https://aocw.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css which applies these changes to every page on the wiki. [22:30:40] Copying that to your wiki's equivalent common.css page will get you 99% of the way there. [22:30:41] but again how Do i get this skin [22:31:06] To enable different skins, that's done under the manage your wiki's extensions link, skins being one of the categories there. [22:31:15] where's uh that? [22:31:36] Special:ManageWiki/extensions? [22:31:54] Yep [22:32:34] I don't see timeless there..? [22:33:29] Timeless is already enabled on all wikis by default [22:33:42] oh [22:33:47] so change it to your default skin at Special:ManageWiki/settings -> Styling [22:33:47] How Do enbale it then? [22:34:22] Done [22:34:33] Oooh [22:34:38] It's sexy right [22:34:45] Yess [22:35:01] Now how do i change my colour scheme? [22:36:27] ..? [22:36:57] CSS [22:37:16] How [22:37:31] Like what Do i put [22:37:32] Just copy and paste from fandom [22:37:41] what are you trying to change the color of? [22:37:45] In Mediawiki:Common.css [22:38:02] The colour scheme is in Fandom's theme designer? [22:38:56] What [22:39:05] Yeah [22:39:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207456058512121857/image.png?ex=65dfb615&is=65cd4115&hm=5c4a0181672655519b301e1bc7ea730cf10f9e47116242cd5352a2b7a3fcfed0& [22:39:26] You don't edit in CSS [22:39:31] It's in the theme designer [22:39:40] So I have no clue tbh [22:40:21] https://aocw.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [22:40:23] Copy this [22:40:30] k [22:40:39] To the same page on MH [22:40:50] Rare fandom useful feature [22:40:50] Nothing changed [22:40:58] .. [22:41:06] Purge Cache? [22:41:11] yep did so [22:41:35] It may also use different class names if so would need to replace but I ain’t a CSS guy [22:41:50] Just how Do i change the colour scheme?! [22:41:57] Colour scheme of what [22:42:00] It's not in my CSS so that won't help [22:42:03] ||cough quick answers cough|| [22:42:04] The wiki [22:42:13] CSS [22:42:16] It's currently just white.. [22:42:21] The background, link text, font colour? [22:42:24] what CSS do i paste? [22:42:28] yeah all of it [22:42:56] Then I'd probably do what Agent suggested and set the skin to Cosmos and copy and paste the CSS. [22:43:09] Otherwise, use Timeless and modify the CSS elements where applicable. [22:43:19] Can you send some of the fandom Css here? [22:43:21] this isn't explaing what i'm asking! [22:43:35] what CSS do i paste to change the appearance with colours?! [22:43:49] Changing skins or CSS isn't helping! [22:43:56] Because none of that is in the CSS!! [22:43:58] No need to virtually shout. [22:44:01] .. [22:44:08] soz [22:44:11] No need to be impatient, they're out here helping you for free man [22:44:15] sorry sorry [22:44:39] but What I'm saying is How do I change the colour scheme in the CSS? [22:44:42] It’s fine. The Common.css page should have all the colors. I’m not sure why it’s not sticking. [22:44:57] Can you send some of the fandom css here? [22:44:59] The colours are in the Theme desginer [22:45:09] Not in the Common.css [22:45:14] The theme designer would just be translating it all to CSS [22:45:17] that would be why [22:45:28] The theme designed is just a UI for users, CSS is the actual code that changes the colours [22:45:30] but mabey a diffrent css? [22:46:03] What I’m thinking is that fandom uses different class names, in which case it would have to be changed. That’s why I wanna take a look at some of it [22:46:12] Sure [22:46:13] If it needs to be edited that’s out of my personal scope [22:46:17] I uh [22:46:21] Sux at css [22:46:45] I shamelessly learnt all my CSS from https://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp lol [22:49:20] Wouldn't surprise me. I bet half of the classes are to display all the different ads on a page. lmao [22:51:29] . [22:51:46] sureley there's some template for this platform of the theme colours? [22:52:05] For 8k wikis this should surely be a thing no? [22:52:59] Are you looking for a Miraheze specific colour scheme? [22:53:08] Sure [22:53:12] whatever works [22:53:15] Sorry to be anothe Chef jumping in here [22:54:23] All's good [22:54:39] Just so long as someone has that [22:55:34] Would it be possible to ask someone to look at a request? If not, that's alright. [22:58:18] From what I’ve seen people tend to just write CSS, could probably find someone else using the Timeless skin and reuse their css with different colors [22:59:32] Is currently in process? It still shows as pending & i'm not seeing anything about an import in the logs I know of, but newly imported pages are appearing in our wiki. It's strange to watch live. [22:59:43] (I don't know if I should be asking this in #sre instead.) [23:00:45] [1/4] I don't think Miraheze has a largely defined color scheme like Wikipedia has, apart from the Yellow in the logo and the ones used faintly on the Meta front page. [23:00:45] [2/4] I would however recommed the French Wiki's Help page and a site like colorhexa in finding a colour scheme that works for you. [23:00:46] [3/4] fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Couleurs [23:00:46] [4/4] colorhexa.com/ [23:01:37] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Couleurscolorhexa.com/ [23:01:43] I think he meant more like a tool akin to fandoms theme editor [23:01:44] It's a blank page? [23:01:55] To make a wiki color schem, not a Miraheze one [23:01:59] why is this so confusing..? [23:02:07] You have 2 urls joined together [23:02:09] There's thousands of wikis here [23:02:13] they have colour schemes [23:02:23] Admittedly, we are as, for lack of a better word, hand holding as fandom [23:02:41] they might be importing it but just havent set it to "in progress"m [23:02:42] We don’t have as many resources so just like a theme builder isn’t a high priority [23:02:53] i'd figure that'd be automated, though. [23:03:03] Also lots of our admins tend to already have css knowledge [23:03:11] But yeah for new people it can be a pain [23:03:12] 🤷 [23:03:15] [1/2] https://totaltennis.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [23:03:15] [2/2] You can take a look at my Wiki's CSS. While its not the prettiest wiki out there, it will have most of the areas you might be looking to change on your Wiki. [23:04:00] miraheze was initially a platform to give people a standard mw install and have them do what they will with it, which inherently requires a degree of knowledge and learning if not that where fandom is indeed designed to make a very guided experience, at the cost of flexibility [23:04:58] that + miraheze being glued together between mediawiki foundation stuff that was never meant for a farm of broad scale and flexibility, various efforts to make it all technically agree, and some ground-up hacks like managewiki [23:05:48] miraheze should strive to smoothen the experience over time but ultimately admins must learn manual things unless people with the requisite knowledge can make more neat tools to automate with [23:06:03] Yeah, it's easy to make a wiki but it's hard to get it exactly the way you want it. [23:06:29] a theme builder is further complicated by offering so many skins in the first place, what works on cosmos (which actually has dedicated settings built into managewiki) will not work for vector, neither will work quite with medik, and repeat for the dozen+ skins available (some of which can probably be cut tbh) [23:06:57] you'll notice at times some extensions really don't agree with some of the uncommon skins [23:07:43] Is there literall any way to change the colour of my wiki? [23:07:48] css [23:07:50] Or is it just stuck pure white [23:07:54] How [23:08:01] https://www.w3schools.com/Css/ [23:08:16] What Do i put in the CSS for the colour.. [23:08:30] you need to learn the very basics without which you will not have a good time [23:08:40] there's lots of things that accept changing the color [23:08:42] then you can look at things like selecting the background, and overwriting it with the color you want [23:08:44] [1/21] #mw-head-base, [23:08:44] [2/21] #p-logo, [23:08:45] [3/21] #globalWrapper { background-color: #dae7fe; } [23:08:45] [4/21] #p-navigation .pBody, [23:08:45] [5/21] #p-search .pBody{ [23:08:46] [6/21] background-color: #ffffff; [23:08:46] [7/21] border-color:#ad1b06; [23:08:46] [8/21] color:#0645AD; } [23:08:47] [9/21] #mw-panel { [23:08:47] [10/21] border-color:#ad1b06; [23:08:47] [11/21] background-color:#ffffff; [23:08:47] [12/21] } [23:08:48] [13/21] #footer { [23:08:48] [14/21] background-color: #dae7fe; [23:08:49] [15/21] border-color:#ad1b06; } [23:08:49] [16/21] #content { [23:08:50] [17/21] border-color:#ad1b06; } [23:08:50] [18/21] .body { [23:08:51] [19/21] background-color: #f4f1e9; [23:08:51] [20/21] border-color:#ad1b06; } [23:08:52] [21/21] Will handle most of it, as I've listed in my Common.css [23:08:56] you can copy and paste ^ but I do encourage learning [23:09:18] Pasted it.. [23:09:20] I would say its a good start, but you can look at changing those colours [23:09:23] nothing chabged/ [23:09:31] It'll take time [23:09:36] ok [23:10:01] Ctrl + F5 might speed it up as your presumably a small wiki [23:10:22] managewiki generally has delayed effects when making changes [23:10:34] But like I said, look at colorhexa and the french wiki colour help and forge your own style through that [23:10:39] and the mediawiki css space [23:10:53] You can later on try and get a bit more playful when your more accustomed to CSS [23:10:59] Uh.. [23:11:06] Prolly rlly dumb but.. [23:11:08] totally recommend colorhexa to work with colors [23:11:12] Would this work? [23:11:16] [1/26] ```/ Community background color / [23:11:16] [2/26] body { [23:11:16] [3/26] background-color: #333c47 !important; [23:11:16] [4/26] } [23:11:17] [5/26] / Sticky nav background color / [23:11:17] [6/26] #mw-head { [23:11:17] [7/26] background-color: #5e6732 !important; [23:11:18] [8/26] } [23:11:18] [9/26] / Community header color / [23:11:18] [10/26] #p-logo a { [23:11:19] [11/26] color: #ffffff !important; [23:11:19] [12/26] } [23:11:19] [13/26] / Accent color / [23:11:20] [14/26] a { [23:11:20] [15/26] color: #c7b78b !important; [23:11:21] [16/26] } [23:11:21] [17/26] / Link color / [23:11:22] [18/26] a:link, [23:11:23] [19/26] a:visited { [23:11:23] [20/26] color: #ffffff !important; [23:11:23] [21/26] } [23:11:24] [22/26] / Article background color / [23:11:24] [23/26] #content { [23:11:25] [24/26] background-color: #575f46 !important; [23:11:25] [25/26] } [23:11:26] [26/26] ``` [23:11:26] prolly not I'd assume? [23:11:29] seems reasonable [23:11:34] rlly? [23:11:40] what you can do is test in your userspace which is more instant [23:11:48] where's that? [23:11:56] so user:Josh/common.css on-wiki or whatever [23:12:04] can also find it in your preferences [23:12:10] preferences? [23:12:32] <.labster> Yeah, preferences [23:12:35] [1/2] ignore the funny nav bar [23:12:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207464433362927616/image.png?ex=65dfbde2&is=65cd48e2&hm=8d378dd1b7d29e64412ebccda76fa4cbe64196c262f0428ac1e9128c56d5bb46& [23:12:47] it'll be in the vicinity [23:13:15] https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/wiki/User:CrimzonConflict/common.css? [23:13:23] dosen't work.. [23:13:50] <.labster> I wonder if WF should offer full-service graphic design for wikis [23:14:41] volunteers for it would be nice [23:14:42] So like.. [23:14:45] https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [23:14:49] Stuff changed.. [23:14:59] but like half right [23:15:26] it's been done before [23:15:26] I've been wondering if I should introduce you to f12 since that is kind of a necessary dimension but also a technical one [23:15:40] not enough time here to run it down in full [23:15:47] <.labster, replying to raidarr> Not, like volunteers, but contract work [23:15:49] Help.. [23:15:58] What did i do 😭 [23:16:09] well what exactly do you want to do? [23:16:09] contract work could be interesting [23:16:33] I'll just give you the f12 rundown, this should really be an on-wiki guide somewhere but obviously I can't make that so lets give it a go, what browser are you using [23:17:28] the problem here is that you need to select elements to change, that will get you started on changing the correct stuff [23:17:47] you also need to know a bit about how what you're selecting works so you know what to hit but we'll start with this and use your wiki as an example [23:21:26] I don't have a good opening to be all-in right now so if you want to pursue this I suggest making a #support detailing what you've done so far and it can go from there, feel free to ping me at that point (with an answer on browser) and I can get around to making the rundown [23:28:24] @.labster could we send out a Discord announcement for RfP/RfGRs [23:28:38] I read RPG [23:28:38] doesn't seem like there's a lot of awareness about the former especially (Kiju's sysop req) [23:28:42] Lol [23:29:15] <.labster, replying to bwm0> Sure [23:29:22] Thanks [23:29:29] Let me get you the links [23:30:11] [1/3] 1. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#1108-Kiju_(Administrator) [23:30:12] [2/3] 2. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_global_permissions#BrandonWM's_Nomination_for_Global_Rollbacker [23:30:12] [3/3] 3. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_global_permissions#Tali64%C2%B3's_Request_for_Global_Rollbacker [23:32:15] Isn’t Kiju a Steward already? [23:32:28] I assume meta level [23:32:43] Ah [23:32:53] the two have been conventionally but not necessarily entwined [23:33:12] Don’t steward’s already have full access to the MediaWikinUI? [23:33:32] they have access but it's rather a matter of jurisdiction [23:33:38] although i did notice they didnt seems to have some permissions like OAuth and Abuse filter [23:33:42] the fbi has inter state jurisdiction but they are not police in DC [23:33:53] Good analogy [23:45:05] What.. [23:45:34] Honestly I've gotten no-where with this wiki 😭 [23:45:56] Although [23:46:08] How do I change the mini icon for the wiki? [23:46:56] [1/2] The one in the tsb [23:46:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207473077982859264/image.png?ex=65dfc5ef&is=65cd50ef&hm=66b49c86b36bb5a79ad55615de2895ee25aac740737631527b2ab0bb9686742a& [23:47:26] CSS [23:47:29] just kidding [23:48:08] upload an image, hover over the image on the file pack, right-click and press "Copy this image's link" or something similar, go to Special:ManageWiki/settings -> Styling -> Favicon [23:48:44] stop bullying the poor man agent smh smh [23:50:42] so.. [23:51:59] niice [23:52:12] Smth simple for once [23:54:10] So next.. [23:54:38] How Do I Import pages? [23:55:11] nvm [23:55:30] Depends. How big is your page dump? [23:55:37] It's not the page dumb [23:55:49] Cause it was taking way to long for some reason [23:55:58] It's manually pasted pages [23:56:06] Ah [23:56:10] That's going to take a terribly long time [23:56:16] And then some [23:56:19] Did you try reading [[Moving a wiki to Miraheze]]? [23:56:19] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze [23:56:20] [23:56:50] Still waiting on the dump.. [23:56:54] what abt imagesd? [23:56:55] ah [23:57:33] Images are… well Fandom is a bitch and don’t let you officially automatically dump images [23:57:39] Not saying it’s impossible [23:57:39] ffs [23:57:46] but against tos [23:57:52] Thank yoy Fandom. [23:57:52] What..? [23:57:58] You have to use a script but using a script is against their terms of service [23:58:07] otherwise, you can't do it [23:58:08] Dont have too [23:58:15] but of course, YMMV [23:58:23] You could download them all my hand 🙂 [23:58:24] I've never heard of them banning someone for using a script [23:58:33] this too