[00:03:10] How Do i add a custom image outaide here? [00:03:33] [1/2] (blue area) [00:03:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207477256885112832/image.png?ex=65dfc9d3&is=65cd54d3&hm=018a9151334bd225afe44dada8613abb564cc1c6839b0a4661a764cff35a5b04& [00:03:43] [1/2] Eg. like this other wiki [00:03:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207477301353259128/image.png?ex=65dfc9de&is=65cd54de&hm=12ea7abab03bd7afd2a2c03a2ab1922f4d164f218a092b5607a86963546e4be9& [00:04:14] ✨ CSS [00:04:25] but i think it’s actually really simple [00:04:31] please explain further 😭 [00:04:32] I don’t remember off the top of my head [00:05:13] @agentisai do you know the class and function magic for setting background via css? :p im not great with remembering this stuff sorry [00:05:23] I believe it's in Special:ManageWiki/settings -> Styling [00:05:34] "Wiki Background" or something similar [00:06:52] Oh [00:10:25] petition to be able to make the header transparent in cosmos! [00:11:15] IIRC I thought I added support for `transparent` through configs but maybe not... [00:11:16] we ended up doing this for ours, lol. On the bright side it let us get rid of some of the uh...weird random stuff people uploaded that nobody noticed and was never used on the pages [00:11:48] I tried about a couple of weeks ago and it wouldn't accept transparent in managewiki, maybe thats the error? [00:11:54] Sometimes I forget you developed so much of the stuff we use [00:11:54] I don't belive so.. [00:11:56] https://tenor.com/view/back-end-sushi-kid-crying-gif-24707001 [00:11:58] cough PI box [00:11:59] You're gonna terrify the man [00:12:28] CSS is terrifing [00:12:31] Hmm... if it doesn't support it its unintentionally I definitely should add support for it... [00:12:34] somebody please help that child use chopsticks [00:12:47] or give them a fork or something [00:12:56] I maintain like 40-60 extensions lol [00:13:04] nvm found it [00:13:28] JIMBO FUCKING CHRIST CA [00:13:48] Wait [00:13:58] oh that was the issue [00:14:05] putting transparent in manage wiki renders it black [00:14:18] CA is listed in NA’s acronym guide but as a former sre [00:14:23] this man is everywhere [00:14:26] i open a page [00:14:31] CA jump scare [00:14:40] [1/5] or actually, it renders: [00:14:40] [2/5] ```css [00:14:40] [3/5] linear-gradient(to right,rgba(0,10,0,0.5),rgba(0,10,0,0.5)),linear-gradient(to left,rgba(0,10,0,0) 200px,transparent 430px) [00:14:41] [4/5] ``` [00:14:41] [5/5] as the background colour [00:14:44] maybe its something to do with the gradient? [00:14:49] Yeah thats why this time with 1.41 we had to remove some as like I did in the past I just jumped to maintain to avoid removing but ive hit my limit lol [00:14:51] if I disable that in console it works [00:15:14] wait ignore me [00:15:14] oh interesting, can you file a task on Wikimedia Phabricator? [00:15:29] so making it transparent does work, but it doesn't make the gradient transparent [00:15:40] oh... thats a bug then [00:15:45] I'll file a task 🙂 [00:15:50] Thanks! [00:16:09] Should be an easy fix [00:16:51] Miraheze Meetings were meant to be held once a month [00:16:56] checks date [00:17:02] we did great at that [00:21:36] [1/2] My sandbox example is working again: [00:21:36] [2/2] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Rodejong/sandbox3 [00:22:32] Shit. Help. [00:22:36] Others with Kartographer have the same experience? [00:22:57] I need help! [00:23:24] urgently.. [00:23:59] What is the problem? [00:24:04] https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [00:24:15] It's broken.. [00:24:36] What's broken specifically? Page looks mostly ok to me [00:24:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207482608221683822/image.png?ex=65dfcecf&is=65cd59cf&hm=b64ed6457ab86d9d85f3d47cfbf5463c740a2cfe3b13c8bcd5cca2493e970c4e& [00:24:53] Looks broken to me [00:24:59] Try refreshing your cache [00:25:04] oh that just happens to wikis sometimes [00:25:07] refresh the page [00:25:15] just did it [00:25:17] idk why it happens [00:25:18] not changing [00:25:20] [1/2] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Rodejong/sandbox3 [00:25:21] [2/2] The Kartographer Extension seems to work again. [00:25:29] its not broken on my end [00:25:39] Neither, it's like walking in on a wiki when it's undressing [00:25:43] Looks fine for me too [00:25:56] oh wait is that like, the css not loading in maybe? [00:26:02] I also need help with styling the wiki skin. I get that we need CSS (and I found a CSS for dummies article) but it seems like you need to know what HTML elements you want to change. Does anyone have a handy list of HTML elements that's common to want to change? [00:26:07] Yep [00:26:19] it's abck [00:26:42] ah, that makes sense. though i guess i dont know why the css occasionally forgets to load on pages then [00:27:15] It happens sometime that the CSS is not loading. After a few refreshes, it kicks in again [00:29:25] [1/2] I'm off to bed people. 1:30 am here! So time for 🛌 and see you when I see you again 😉 [00:29:25] [2/2] G'night! 💤 [00:32:29] Ah, need to update that now that we're all back at MH [00:33:09] @j0sh2 wow that's looking pretty darn good already! [00:34:23] This makes me want to finally change my own wiki's CSS... [00:34:58] BTW, if you haven't found it already the equivalent to Fandom's MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation page on Cosmos is MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation, if you want to steal that same topbar navigation [00:46:34] Thanks :)) [00:47:19] Doesn't seem to work anymore [00:47:22] tho [00:58:26] my wiki underwent a subdomain change and I now get "No active login attempt is in progress for your session." when trying to log in [00:58:41] cleared cache and cookies on my browser, no success. logging in from my phone doesn't work either [01:01:14] I'm able to create a new account and log into that but my bureaucrat account is inaccessible [01:06:03] @.labster were you able to post announcement [01:15:14] hey, is anyone else having issues with WikiSEO? its incorrectly generating SEO descriptions from templates in pages, pulling from the templates docs for some reason [01:16:09] [1/3] it doesnt always happen but ive no clue why. it appears in the meta tags of the html itself, not just a discord bug [01:16:10] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207495532935774328/Screenshot_20240215_011531_Discord.png?ex=65dfdad9&is=65cd65d9&hm=656f60da07181acbc5a1affeea8d54f5fb69f58037343b9cdec7e8659ea75fda& [01:16:10] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207495533199892520/Screenshot_20240215_011541_Discord.png?ex=65dfdad9&is=65cd65d9&hm=c08c605ef2b5a91e5ddba22c2d666e0e64d49ae9960a884c0b69b0fd151604f7& [01:20:31] also this issue only began like a day or two ago [02:00:26] I did a steward request. [02:33:08] Anyone know how to check lifetime edits + log actions? [02:34:02] On Miraheze in general [02:34:16] Was curious what it all would add up to [02:34:39] I don't think such a tool exists; the closest you can get is CentralAuth [02:35:03] Makes sense hah, CA is useful for edits but can't quantify logs [02:35:03] [1/2] You mean like a count? [02:35:04] [2/2] https://new.lgbtqia.wiki/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=JebCC&usprop=editcount [02:35:32] Edit count can be found via CentralAuth, but can't find # of log actions [02:35:41] Hmm yeah, not sure about that one [02:36:04] I don't think it's possible to do interface-wise, but maybe there's an API grab somehow [02:36:23] Special:Log?performer=BrandonWM or something [02:36:26] but globally [02:36:29] 🤷 [02:57:24] why is a 140p gif apparently "high resolution" [02:57:37] i had to downgrade to 110p [03:00:18] <.labster> I thought 1080p was high resolution [03:01:05] i saw this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxAnimatedGifArea but i didn't really find anything useful [03:02:20] <.labster> Kids today with their 4k and 5ks, back in my day we had to flip through the snow when changing the channel both ways [03:04:03] <.labster> From that page, the maximum is based on width x height x number of frames in the gif [03:06:06] <.labster> weird metric but ok [03:06:56] difference of 2559520 [03:06:59] mfw [03:07:11] so i have to sacrifice resolution or framerate [03:07:55] slightly less but whatever [03:09:45] <.labster> Framerate is not quite number of frames, you can’t just play it on half speed [03:11:07] <.labster> It’s kinda weird because all I care about is file size, both as server or client, not number of pixels [03:12:07] Still doesn't work btw. [03:19:48] where did ONE frame come from [03:24:15] it has special page, enabled on Meta, used in a userbox (but a bit borked cus of 1.41) [03:24:21] i’m assuming the answer is yes, but is it possible to have several CSS styles that only affect a few pages? [03:24:30] and if yes, how? [03:24:57] i don’t recall seeing this on the CSS guide but if it’s there feel free to :trout: me [03:26:11] (i love that emote and i love that it’s a thing on wikipedia) [03:35:07] hm? [03:48:29] I would look into the TemplateStyles extension, it looks like the best fit for what you're trying to do and can be used outside the template namespace [03:48:50] [1/6] Have any other wikis or I guess wiki admins/contributers here written any policies on using artificial intelligence? [03:48:50] [2/6] On the Adventure Zone Wiki, we haven't had to do that yet but now we are getting AI written articles and AI generated images. Does anyone have any experience with, or ideas for, writing policies about not using AI to do those things? Or would it be simpler/more precise to just deal with it on a case by case basis? [03:48:50] [3/6] My main worry is that by running transcripts through AI, that it is easy to get incorrect or incorrectly framed information, especially because this is a comedy podcast. Also these articles are editorialized as hell 😔 I'm also worried that the writing and image generation could be trained on data that are copyrighted or haven't given specific permission to be modeled on, and how m [03:48:51] [4/6] uddy that gets in terms of adding licensing information. [03:48:51] [5/6] (I figure I should ask here because it's not really a support or technical thing.) [03:48:51] [6/6] (also pls ping me if you respond to this message because i dont check this server all that often :]) [03:49:17] okay, cool! thank you :nomChocoStrawberry: will look into that [03:51:31] [1/2] wait. maybe this is something [03:51:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207534630333325332/image.png?ex=65dfff42&is=65cd8a42&hm=d460fcbabe8597d8714c5fc85c7ba676cec9bf3bc132e4d9babe9ae0137570f2& [03:55:50] [1/2] Citations are your best friend. If editors can't provide a source for their information, then it shouldn't be allowed. [03:55:51] [2/2] I personally don't mind if it was written by an AI (because an AI is nearly always better at formal language than users), as long as the information is backed up by other sources, so editors will need to do their own research cause obviously the AI won't provide its own sources. [03:57:57] [1/3] I am not online for long, but this is generally the case: [03:57:57] [2/3] * AI text should have human oversight to avoid anarchy clause violations [03:57:57] [3/3] * you are still bound by content policy, esp around misinformation, and are liable for whatever is posted. [03:59:03] We don't have an official policy stance on AI generated content just yet but I'll bring this up w the board [03:59:43] thank you both! I think those are good points and we'll just reinforce our current policies for now [04:46:05] waiting for a miraheze creator to give their thoughts on my request 😔 [04:46:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1207548446735605760/qPrH0sY.png?ex=65e00c20&is=65cd9720&hm=ffc4f1532e6dc3ced2ee1fb0f75a3b9fde7f49ac10f94658a822a84d4a7963fe& [04:47:29] same [04:47:49] or well, mines just pending in general [04:49:56] is this common btw? [04:51:11] not just being on pendingstatus, this spesfic message [04:54:05] It's not uncommon [04:55:35] Which request? [04:55:51] I just went through and cleared the entire queue, everyone should have a response. [04:56:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/40945 [04:57:03] The message means that I'm consulting with the rest of the WC team for further discussion. [04:57:14] oh uh ok [04:57:18] am i in trouble or smt [04:57:33] No, not at all [04:57:49] We're just reviewing your request a bit further to ensure full compliance with our Content Policy [04:57:53] It happens quite often [04:57:59] ok then [04:58:03] Peer reviews 🙏 [04:58:14] They make the world go round [04:58:16] Pretty much [04:59:01] did you do the request import dump queue? mine still says its pending there. [04:59:08] i can send a link if you want [04:59:13] Oh - that's an SRE thing [04:59:43] I'm responsible for wiki creations, the ones that approve the import dump requests are sysadmins [04:59:52] ah, cool. [05:00:19] Is it possible to add different fonts to the wiki? [05:00:59] Yes, just change the font-family in the CSS. ^^ [05:01:00] i believe it should be with CSS [05:01:11] You have a response [05:01:14] CSS does all the like, cosmetic stuff [05:01:46] what? [05:02:05] can you please show me the law im breaking in the uk now im intrested [05:02:37] (also i live in the US, and WCSD is in nevada, which is in the US) [05:02:41] It's not a great canned response, but happy to explain in DMs [05:02:47] alright [05:03:00] [1/2] I haven't read this page thoroughly but it might help you out: https://www.hostknox.com/knowledgebase/696/How-to-change-the-font-family-size-and-color-of-text-in-MediaWiki.html [05:03:00] [2/2] (sry to interrupt) [05:07:50] Is there a way to check if the font is available? [05:08:20] Bc I found an mw extension adding and no list of added fonts [05:11:51] Bc I was using ai (idk if it's morally wrong like with artistic content) and the skin.css page told me to substitute @import with link and the ai said link goes in the html doc [05:17:54] are you asking chatgpt how to insert fonts in css? [05:19:13] theres two ways, upload font to your wiki & using font-face css rule, or if youre importing from google then you use the @import rule it gives you [05:25:05] Info: @import prevents parallel downloads, use instead. - it shows the message in the editor, won't it be a problem? [05:26:41] you edit MediaWiki:Common.css page? [05:26:49] never had such message [05:27:54] [1/6] not sure what elements youre trying to change the font of, but for example this would change the font on the whole wiki, this should work [05:27:54] [2/6] ```@import url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Comfortaa:wght@300..700&display=swap'); [05:27:54] [3/6] body * { [05:27:55] [4/6] font-family:'Comfortaa', Arial; !important [05:27:55] [5/6] }``` [05:27:55]