[00:20:46] [1/2] I just looked at a wiki i'm working on that had its assets and pages imported from an .xml dump from another wiki, and for some reason, none of the pages have any of their edits after mid 2017 [00:20:46] [2/2] other than the dump having being made from the wrong revision of the wiki, what could cause that? [00:21:01] It's surprising as I find there's a lot of buzz when they are said [00:29:08] [1/2] do you know the xml dump included articles after mid 2017? please double-check the dump to ensure it was the correct version. [00:29:09] [2/2] if it was, maybe a [[phabricator]] task would be advised? [00:29:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phabricator [00:29:10] [00:30:01] [1/2] the site in question had articles made after that, but this dump may have been made of an old version of the site somehow [00:30:02] [2/2] i'm looking in to it [00:32:30] [1/3] the guy who did the dump swore he saw edits from september of last year but I'm not convinced he knows what he was doing [00:32:30] [2/3] i'll poke at the .xml a bit [00:32:30] [3/3] but if worse comes to worse, can I ask on phabricator to import a different dump? [00:32:58] because if i've been carefully curating a mod team and images and stuff to resurrect this wiki for a month and the dump we were counting on is six or seven years out of date, i'm going to lose it [00:34:41] <.labster> Yeah that sounds like an old dump [00:35:22] yep. just go to [[Special:RequestImportDump]] [00:35:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImportDump [00:35:23] [00:35:33] thank god [00:35:52] okay, i appreciate that [00:35:57] i'll reopen my phabricator ticket [00:35:59] if it comes to that [00:36:25] <.labster> There’s dates in the XML, you can search for newer dates in a text editor [00:36:54] [1/3] in the meantime this guy types at the speed of slow, so i'm kind of in limbo [00:36:55] [2/3] Oh yeah [00:36:55] [3/3] What editor would you recommend? Notepad++? basic notepad? [00:37:26] Notepad++ would be my recommendation, as it can have fancy highlighting and syntax recognition [00:37:28] god, what's worse than looking at the [Personname] is typing... at the bottom of the window and waiting for them to finish tap-typing [00:37:49] <.labster> BBEdit on a Mac lol [00:38:46] <.labster, replying to maulmachine> AIDS is worse [00:39:13] well sure, but you can't see AIDS on discord [00:39:15] https://tenor.com/view/rich-evans-red-letter-media-funny-aids-gif-12716501870436822613 [00:40:38] <.labster> Which wiki is this again? [00:41:10] it's not done yet, but it will be 1d6chan [00:44:57] <.labster> Yeah, so a really annoying way to get a newer dump would be: scrape archive.org -> use pandoc to convert HTML to wikicode -> use a scripting language to format the pages into XML import format -> import. It won’t have the best attribution but it’s fine. I’ve done worse imports before [00:46:53] huh [00:47:12] <.labster> In your case you could even do that step after an older dump is imported so some of the page history exists [00:47:30] we do have what i'm pretty sure is a stable dump from a mirror [00:47:52] [1/2] but i can't understand why this one is so old [00:47:52] [2/2] i'm not sure this dump we did use is from 2017 [00:51:17] okay i'll open the dump xml with Notepad++ and search for a word that didn't exist in 2017 from my homebrew project [00:52:09] <.labster> Just search for “2018-“ in the timestamps [00:52:14] might be able to search daye [00:52:16] ja [00:52:39] [1/2] what the hell [00:52:39] [2/2] i see edits here with timestamps after 2017 [00:53:07] hm, check the corresponding page on wiki? [00:53:35] <.labster> It is possible the import process partially failed [00:54:53] If the failure was date passed(ie worked fine until X date) I think the import script supports a parameter to continue(?$ [00:55:33] I've seen it twice already 😮 [00:55:46] <.labster> I think it does all of the revisions of a page together? [00:56:19] I’d need to check docs [00:56:44] <.labster, replying to rodejong> We’re gonna need to close the pool [00:56:48] [[mw:importDump.php]]? [00:56:48] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/importDump.php [00:56:49] [00:56:53] [1/2] okay, i looked up a page that didn't exist in 2017 in the xml, but the XML has it [00:56:53] [2/2] yet when I went to it on the new mirror on miraheze, it doesn't exist [00:57:21] Must be a bad import maybe [00:57:45] Universal Omega did the import? [00:57:56] [1/2] Good night everyone! [00:57:57] [2/2] 🛌 💤 [00:58:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208215775207493712/image.png?ex=65e279a0&is=65d004a0&hm=dd7eee005610a08c9a2be1dfcfa7edfe18020b0ca45c7d2a7f02db5a6551db5c& [00:59:17] <.labster> If you haven’t done much editing yet it may be best to wipe the wiki and reimport from scratch? Maybe continue would work? [00:59:23] (Also apologies for you seeming to repeated getting delays with this) [00:59:44] well [00:59:51] Seems agent did the import https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/808001911868489748/1203971313660596224 [01:00:10] If failed though [01:00:20] It seems like it was killed [01:00:54] Interesting, rerunning should work? [01:01:11] <.labster> Who hired the OOM Killer for a hit job? [01:01:31] Potentially [01:01:47] importDump.php does not supporr a date parameter [01:01:59] a:whysob: [01:02:15] No, but it supports a skip-to or something to skip to a specific revision [01:02:21] IIRC anyway [01:03:19] <.labster> Yep [01:03:21] [1/2] so should i reopen the ticket on phab, or is this not something I can help with? [01:03:22] [2/2] If you need anything from me, let me know [01:10:01] <.labster> Assuming we still have the file, we should be good [01:10:22] If the dump you gave us contains the info we should be able to complete it [01:10:38] there's a .7z file on my phabricator ticket [01:10:51] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11781 [01:11:02] if it doesn't work on attempt two, i'll use a different, older mirror [01:11:08] but the images should work, at least [01:11:23] in fact i think the images from the dump we used here do work [01:11:27] it's just the pages thatdon't [01:12:46] so, if i wanted to proof the second attempt, is there anything in the phab ticket or on the wiki itself that will indicate when the import is done? a notification or a phab alert or something? [01:13:45] If you’re subscribed to the task you’ll probably get an email when its closed [01:16:27] okay [01:23:11] Well, thanks for the help, guys [01:23:20] i was losing it over here in panic [01:24:34] Oh I totally get it. Only remaining copy of old history of something you’re invested in possibly incomplete or corrupted? I’d have a stroke [01:24:47] yeah [01:25:23] i guess we could rip an ancient mirror from archive.org and convert it but ew gross [01:28:18] Please wikigods no [02:01:33] <.labster, replying to maulmachine> I’ve done something like this. It took months [03:37:54] is there an extension that uses LaTeX for equations? or its just the math extension? [03:58:45] <.labster, replying to verdessence> TeX support for Mediawiki was removed a long time ago. [03:59:48] <.labster> I think it's all in the Math extension now. [04:15:13] dsamn... [04:19:36] one day, decades from now, TeX will finally be completely deprecated and replaced by something new and not unmaintainably ancient [04:22:55] [1/3] hey folks, a quick question. [04:22:55] [2/3] recently, every time i hit edit source on a page, the page would just get stuck at "the editor will now load", and I'd have to always click the "please reload this page" for the editor to actually show up. [04:22:56] [3/3] is this just me or is there something else? [05:55:56] [1/2] I'm trying to follow the instructions for inheriting my old account on the new wiki by creating an identical username, but it says my old username i'm trying to recreate is too similar to one that already exists [05:55:56] [2/2] is there any remedy, or am I just hosed? [06:17:18] [1/2] Welp [06:17:19] [2/2] Domain just went down, how do I switch it back to the miraheze domain? [06:21:24] Hi. Just let me know what your wiki url is and I'll remove the custom domain [06:21:50] Wikipwaadia.works [06:22:02] Why do you need to inherit a new account? [06:22:16] what's the original Miraheze subdomain? (if not sure check via ManageWiki) [06:22:26] Wikipwaadia.miraheze.org [06:23:23] removed [06:28:41] Tyty [11:53:49] [1/5] So just type [11:53:49] [2/5] .courier{ [11:53:49] [3/5] @import url(the url) ; [11:53:50] [4/5] } [11:53:50] [5/5] ? [12:11:00] Hello! [12:13:41] man I have massive headache rn [12:13:50] I'm 24/7 paid support [12:16:49] Get well! Take care of yourself. People can be patient [14:13:41] Just bought a custom domain, How do I change my wiki to have this new domain? [14:15:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestSSL 🙂 [14:15:27] Ty [14:15:49] Wait what's the Target Database Name? [14:19:33] [1/2] Keeps giving me errors, how'd I fix this? [14:19:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208417457618944051/image.png?ex=65e33575&is=65d0c075&hm=31a4dd561ccf0744952a5d8caa62165f2e14a8286401b941b1e85b584a4cd89e& [14:23:17] First, the / at the end behind wiki. remove that one [14:23:55] done [14:24:48] [1/2] ? [14:24:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208418780116549642/image.png?ex=65e336b0&is=65d0c1b0&hm=363871980121963375a6b3fb08bb11251302dcec60871690566cfaca9bb4bf2e& [14:25:48] It should be agesofconflictwiki [14:25:51] There [14:25:53] k ty [14:26:16] yeah, was just looking that up 😄 [14:26:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208419202650865664/image.png?ex=65e33715&is=65d0c215&hm=3799f4e1746c382036f7458eb2317e4e855e78a78f2bf9332062b7b823e9737b& [14:26:32] You beat me to it [14:26:42] Remove uppercase A [14:26:45] Make it lowercase [14:27:06] just like ith the url [14:27:24] Databases are case-sensitive [14:27:33] done [14:27:43] Goody [14:27:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208419517462749235/image.png?ex=65e33760&is=65d0c260&hm=94f824951fd17e22656f62e4def9990c58233583a9e00098d6de2e3a843bb3a1& [14:28:34] And now you have to be patient ... again 😉 [14:29:48] ye [14:49:15] @j0sh2 have you followed https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom%20domains ? [14:49:19] your domain doesn't seem to be pointed to us [14:49:32] Wdym? [14:49:52] Dosen't the Extra info explain it enough/ [14:50:12] I mean did you follow the instructions in that page? You need to actually point the domain to us in order for it to work [14:51:01] Did i not? [14:51:11] Custom Domain: https://agesofconflict.wiki [14:53:24] Have a look at that page. You need to go into your domain provider settings and either set a CNAME or point your nameservers to us [14:53:49] Sorry what? I'm a bit confused [14:54:47] Oh, You mean change the NAMESERVERS to Custom DNS? [14:54:51] what do I imput then? [14:56:38] i don't, really, but i want to make sure as many users as possible from my old wiki can [14:59:04] Either cname to mw-lb.miraheze.org or change the nameservers to ns1.miraheze.org and ns2 [14:59:20] ty [14:59:38] done [14:59:53] [1/2] Oh.. [14:59:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208427605238218762/image.png?ex=65e33ee8&is=65d0c9e8&hm=6a8a8d06fea7a1713090982ebe5d3b7dbf4468739d35ebe35245b7758a9d18f8& [15:07:07] [1/2] thanks for still bringing it up lmao [15:07:08] [2/2] I'm not sure if I actually can make one properly, I can't make cute stuff [15:10:29] [1/9] on proper look now, I got where's the issue [15:10:29] [2/9] you typed `Courier+Prime` [15:10:29] [3/9] but should have `Courier Prime` [15:10:30] [4/9] as for CSS class [15:10:30] [5/9] `@import url(the url) ` - should be at the beginning of Common.css [15:10:30] [6/9] the class to use gonna be [15:10:31] [7/9] `.courier { [15:10:31] [8/9] font-family: 'Courier Prime'; [15:10:31] [9/9] }` [15:23:24] thanks man [15:31:20] now I'm curious how did it look like 👀 [15:33:44] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/901057109951647754/901161511408500789 [15:40:50] Whoa that's pretty cool actually [15:51:00] Hey what is the difference between your wiki and wikidata? [16:07:25] Wikidata is a storage/"cataloguing" kind of project tied w/ Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects [16:08:44] a wiki on Miraheze just exists on Miraheze platform and isn't tied to Wikimedia is any way, but can someone can add a link to your wiki in some object's wikidata [16:10:23] like someone added a link to my wiki about Soft Cell on Wikidata page about Soft Cell [16:11:16] mind you, my knownledge of this subject might be on surface level [16:15:57] On the gogigantic Wiki, how do they get the text all one colour and with the hovering effect? I'd like to use it And I can credit it in the CSS [16:20:39] you mean change color of all text or links? [16:20:49] and color change of links on hover? [16:22:07] Ye [16:22:18] Both [16:22:30] I'd like to change the defult colour as white and links as gold [16:31:26] ..? [16:51:21] [1/2] I usually leave commentaries in my CSS, on what portions of the code do, so like - you can see [16:51:21] [2/2] [16:52:24] [1/4] as for normal text color it's usually [16:52:24] [2/4] `body #mw-content-text { [16:52:25] [3/4] color: ...; [16:52:25] [4/4] }` [16:52:27] [1/20] ```/ Links / [16:52:27] [2/20] / Normal / [16:52:28] [3/20] a { [16:52:28] [4/20] color: #FFF8A1 !important; } [16:52:28] [5/20] a:visited { [16:52:29] [6/20] color: #FFF37A !important; } [16:52:29] [7/20] a:hover { [16:52:29] [8/20] color: #9FDDDF !important; [16:52:30] [9/20] text-decoration: none; [16:52:30] [10/20] text-shadow: 2px 2px 5px black; } [16:52:30] [11/20] / Red / [16:52:31] [12/20] a.new { [16:52:31] [13/20] color: #DA3030 !important; } [16:52:32] [14/20] a.new:visited { [16:52:32] [15/20] color: #DC6161 !important; } [16:52:33] [16/20] / External interwiki and web links (affects long Special: links too) / [16:52:33] [17/20] a.extiw, a.external { [16:52:34] [18/20] color: #60F9FF !important; / Different color / [16:52:34] [19/20] background-image: none !important; / Removes icon / [16:52:35] [20/20] padding-right: 0 !important; }```? [16:52:36] yes [16:52:48] particulary the first portion [16:53:06] the rest are just additions I do everywhere [16:53:13] like red and external links [16:53:34] Hm? [16:53:34] So.. [16:53:54] [1/3] ```body #mw-content-text { [16:53:54] [2/3] color: white; [16:53:54] [3/3] }```? [16:54:09] yes [16:55:06] [1/21] Will ```/ Links / [16:55:06] [2/21] / Normal / [16:55:06] [3/21] a { [16:55:07] [4/21] color: gold !important; } [16:55:07] [5/21] a:visited { [16:55:07] [6/21] color: gold !important; } [16:55:08] [7/21] a:hover { [16:55:08] [8/21] color: gold !important; [16:55:08] [9/21] text-decoration: none; [16:55:09] [10/21] text-shadow: 2px 2px 5px black; } [16:55:09] [11/21] / Red / [16:55:10] [12/21] a.new { [16:55:10] [13/21] color: gold !important; } [16:55:11] [14/21] a.new:visited { [16:55:11] [15/21] color: gold !important; } [16:55:12] [16/21] / External interwiki and web links (affects long Special: links too) / [16:55:12] [17/21] a.extiw, a.external { [16:55:13] [18/21] color: gold !important; / Different color / [16:55:13] [19/21] background-image: none !important; / Removes icon / [16:55:14] [20/21] padding-right: 0 !important; } [16:55:14] [21/21] ``` work? [16:55:15] (Links) [16:55:19] again [16:55:21] I said [16:55:36] alr alr sorry [16:55:41] that / Normal / will work yes [16:56:01] as for there rest, think for yourself if you need that [16:56:37] I just do various stuff that others might find complicated or unnecessary [16:56:37] It's not uh.. Working.. [16:56:38] https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [16:56:53] Common.css never works right away [16:56:56] I did reset the cashe thing [16:57:01] Oh right ofc [16:57:15] I'll check up in like 5 mins [16:57:35] Also do you like my reverbed design (borrowing your design and changing up the colour scheme) [16:58:06] I think depending how large the change is, and how large the site is it'll take a little bit to kick in, which is also why its recommended to put into your user css first and test the changes if you want to see them more immediately [16:58:54] you need to change main page target in `MediaWiki:Mainpage` [16:59:42] or set up proper redirect [17:00:09] [1/2] Also not 100% sure whats happened with your navigation, but the logo is coming over the sidebar, so you might want to adjust that [17:00:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208457866730541157/Untitled.png?ex=65e35b17&is=65d0e617&hm=b1a29884b4854d60ded2342323f638b088aa2501cd0304005ac173e2c54c4050& [17:00:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208457966789861437/2024-02-17_20_00_13.png?ex=65e35b2f&is=65d0e62f&hm=4ac9072206993289e83ad1aca3b8a7567899c2af822d9793740eaa3a6a6d3cf3& [17:00:51] I can't see the logo [17:01:07] assuming he took my CSS, I hid logo on my wiki [17:02:50] I thought I removed that? [17:02:51] [1/4] #p-logo { [17:02:52] [2/4] height: 1px !important; [17:02:52] [3/4] } [17:02:52] [4/4] is like whats causing the issue in MediaWiki:Timeless.css [17:03:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208458598301048832/image.png?ex=65e35bc5&is=65d0e6c5&hm=93d08ba77bd91e95332b87a7a12c3c8f266d4812eb9e48554479eab5080e09ea& [17:03:20] are you using Chrome? [17:03:27] Firefox [17:03:28] because I can see that on my Chrome fork lol [17:03:34] :ThinkerMH: [17:03:39] This is on the main page of firefox [17:04:03] [1/2] incheresting [17:04:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208458852769734666/2024-02-17_20_03_52.png?ex=65e35c02&is=65d0e702&hm=e884a735ba859cc585064dfac2609303f3e547d8bf5ff0abaf0a0d0362717e1d& [17:04:26] [1/2] So thats fullscreen for me on firefox [17:04:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208458950198960219/Untitled.png?ex=65e35c19&is=65d0e719&hm=5c709f8b2e4c1fda450843f773d3aa0d90719aafef2e5576d81d0668af987d24& [17:04:55] aha [17:05:08] logged out and see logo issue [17:05:12] very strange [17:05:48] Also if you click it, it will redirect to Age of Conflicts Wiki article page, though I doubt its an issue once the removal is resolved [17:10:03] Gtg now [17:18:27] that's in my Timeless.css too and doesn't cause issues, both logged in/out [17:19:09] I had to leave to have space between banner and sidebar [17:20:15] actually, can someone w/ big screen visit gogigantic.wiki and take a screenshot for me, please [17:20:50] because I'm on laptop, and screen res here is medium [17:21:44] I know that Pizza Tower Wiki looks same on both medium and big screens [17:21:57] but layour CSS is same [18:00:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208473129383624704/Untitled.png?ex=65e3694e&is=65d0f44e&hm=da3321da78c783b4f0262e5162445d5647f2c38bb6ec5a10848bb32209c91367& [18:07:13] man [18:07:26] I got another screenshot and it's not like that [18:07:45] icons block a tad messed up but overall normal [18:07:57] takes all width space and no logo [18:08:28] is that same on Inkipedia for you then? [18:11:47] I guess it's 4k screen [18:12:03] my old desktop screen is smaller than that [18:20:34] [1/2] not 4k, but its a 27 inch screen, Inkpedia looks fine to me, unless there's any glaring errors you can see [18:20:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208478109217857556/Untitled.png?ex=65e36df1&is=65d0f8f1&hm=2dd7418e595805ee82157958bc710e10cccd37282de8f603ff2faf136f2df582& [18:21:34] so Timeless has a width limit [18:21:45] even w/ sidebar on one side [18:22:06] man, I gotta optimize more lol [18:24:06] [1/3] its probably something you could alter with CSS, they did seem to fix the issue on Zelda Wiki, between the Fandom version (Pitchforks and all) and the new version [18:24:06] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208478999702147135/Untitled1.png?ex=65e36ec5&is=65d0f9c5&hm=b9f530c57d43267208d6a09b2c337e808f87c8e80e59f91cd13aed11714f8a49& [18:24:07] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208479000100610078/Untitled2.png?ex=65e36ec6&is=65d0f9c6&hm=476478360f743745f73a2e84a9b430fa28dffde070102efa2a4a268e2b584980& [18:28:04] Zelda Wiki uses old Vector [18:28:10] but Timeless for mobile mode [18:28:39] I was more specifically referring to the max width issue [18:28:44] but yeah, it can be fixed ofc [18:28:49] just more work lol [18:29:16] I need to understand now what's the max width limit, and I don't how huge screens lol [18:30:24] I actually don't want to enchance max width [18:30:36] it looks laright [18:30:37] To substitute you can just use page zoom [18:30:53] I need to optimize icons [20:15:38] [1/2] @theoneandonlylegroom correct? [20:15:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208507068143894548/image.png?ex=65e388ea&is=65d113ea&hm=ec50db684bdf8f478f59d37b8a37cdae77477d09863b7ca3b7fc7e97661f8101& [20:16:21] yeah [20:16:26] Alright, thanks lad [20:17:33] @theoneandonlylegroom how do I make the wiki read-only btw? [20:17:41] DP requests go in the restricted setting section actually [20:17:48] shit [20:18:02] not an issue, just something I wanted to point out [20:18:02] why is it so complicated [20:18:06] but people keep adding them in misc tho [20:18:09] uh [20:18:40] incorrectly [20:18:45] right [20:18:51] there's glag in core settings [20:18:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208507906543194213/image.png?ex=65e389b1&is=65d114b1&hm=a7ce8513d4aa91cf519a490fe568208ac9d493110150daf6a62ba2479ac99eb2& [20:19:08] the restricted setting change request is correct? [20:19:13] yes [20:19:33] we should probably create a separat section for those tbh given how many there are [20:19:36] have you ever considered of making guides? [20:19:47] the wiki management side is a maze [20:19:50] at one point I even considered a separate page but since we want a custom special page anyway we might as well keep it on SR for now [20:19:58] people don't read them [20:20:03] They do exist though! [20:20:06] yes, the special page is the goal [20:20:19] I would love to have em [20:20:26] Miraheze Ai helper [20:20:39] [1/2] "How do I make my wiki read only" [20:20:39] [2/2] step by step helping you [20:21:01] I mean, I did try using Google Gemini just to see if it knew the answer to something and it did for that so you could always try your luck there heh [20:21:02] not really guide, but a guide [20:21:21] but https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki is very detailed [20:21:28] " Group management and permissions" [20:21:34] permission settings - remove edit and similar rights like upload from Everyone (*) and User [20:21:53] thus leaving those only to admins [20:21:58] just in case [20:22:05] this is not in core settings! [20:22:12] I said permission settings [20:22:22] it's separate page [20:22:27] in admin sidebar [20:22:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208508786243928125/image.png?ex=65e38a83&is=65d11583&hm=396932cac0e18df49177070e800b5780af927de178eb14955c8f840770008546& [20:22:29] Oh [20:22:48] that was aimed for convo w/ Agent [20:23:20] Thank you [20:23:34] let's see if it works now [20:24:39] Works [20:24:50] Thanks legroom! [20:24:55] np [20:30:37] btw [20:30:41] if I make some changes to the wiki [20:30:51] like if I get a dormacy policy [20:31:01] do i get hammered down to atoms? [20:31:28] no [20:32:29] it works if either no updates are expected or only on very rare occasions [21:00:21] [1/2] heyyyyyy [21:00:21] [2/2] So. the favicon still isn't showing up and it's been ages. Also the image looks white in the list of files, but the image does come up as it is supposed to look when I click on 'file' [21:07:30] the white thing is common for .ico files [21:07:38] what's your wiki again? [21:09:05] decapedia [21:09:20] decapedia [21:13:50] it straight up not showing for me [21:14:00] cries [21:14:10] the favicon? Or the wiki? [21:14:17] favicon [21:14:28] cries [21:15:09] Do you have any ideas about what ofen goes wrong with favicons that I can check, or maybe know of a guide somewhere to put in the favicon right because I must've done it wrong I feel [21:15:24] thinking [21:15:49] you did it right, but I think maybe it's too big [21:16:00] but you also can use .png for icon [21:16:42] [1/2] if your logo is .png, and can use it [21:16:42] [2/2] not sure if it works w/ .jpg [21:28:14] Sorry, I was looking, but I can't figure out how big it is in pixels. it's 130kb [21:28:33] I meant resolution [21:28:35] it's jpg 😭 [21:28:39] idk how to check that [21:28:53] well it seems so in my image editor [21:29:12] ooooh I found it!! It says it's 48 by 48 pixels [21:29:15] I've been making 16px pixel favicons since wikia day slol [21:29:39] cool! I will figure out how to make it that size! Thank you! [21:29:47] I suggest [21:29:53] make that image squary [21:30:02] crop it just to circle [21:30:08] and save as png [21:30:15] then upload/set up [21:34:55] Back Now! [21:42:24] How do I change the colour of InfoBoxes? [21:44:06] [1/3] Oh hey Josh [21:44:06] [2/3] While you're here, could you please go into https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/ and turn on the TemplateStyles extension? [21:44:07] [3/3] Thanks [21:45:09] Ah, Where would that uh be? [21:45:28] Pretty sure extensions are somewhere else [21:45:51] look at your admin sidebar [21:45:56] Nvm [21:46:00] [1/2] There should be an extensions tab here I think [21:46:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208529808888303616/image.png?ex=65e39e17&is=65d12917&hm=e4bad73b5429124116ef6a5c2e1b6ad41da6ed9a81cf73b3f9be82a607d74b6f& [21:46:01] Found Manage extentions [21:46:10] https://agesofconflict.wiki/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions [21:47:23] [1/2] It's on the Parser Hooks tab, near the bottom [21:47:23] [2/2] I can't turn it on [21:48:22] Done [21:48:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208530465963900999/image.png?ex=65e39eb4&is=65d129b4&hm=b08b7895dc86cec5c762f61713294bb3ea330eebca970ce0f286c3ad3a598e56& [21:49:35] Also How/Where would I change the colour of those hover boxes as in the ss [21:50:07] Thanks [22:10:22] [1/2] general question: is this a good replacement for the switcher template [22:10:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208535942256922714/image.png?ex=65e3a3ce&is=65d12ece&hm=fcfe2734933c1aa0edff8e38fdc78be6a51ac091a4eda07652c44d5f7217c621& [22:30:13] If I changed the name of a category, is there a way to automated moving all the pages to the new category name? [22:32:45] AutoWikiBrowser probably [22:33:00] [[wp:AutoWikiBrowser]] [22:33:00] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wp:AutoWikiBrowser [22:33:01] [22:36:41] [1/2] Special:ReplaceText is an easy god-send. [22:36:41] [2/2] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text/en#:~:text=Replace%20Text%20is%20an%20extension,posted%20to%20the%20job%20queue. [22:37:15] You would just then replace [[Category:Oldname]] with [[Category:Newname]] [22:37:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Oldname https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Newname [22:37:16] [1/2] [22:37:16] [2/2] [22:37:54] Oh dang forgot about that [22:38:04] I've seen that extension used on other wikis, but I can't find it in ManageWiki. Is it available on Miraheze? [22:38:28] Mmmmmm included in mediawiki [22:38:32] My favorite words [22:39:12] How do I enable it? [22:39:21] Let me check something [22:39:41] https://pandorastale.wiki/wiki/Special:ReplaceText [22:40:12] [1/2] It doesn't seem active on my wiki: [22:40:12] [2/2] [[mh:pandorastale:Special:ReplaceText]] [22:40:12] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/pandorastale:Special:ReplaceText [22:40:13] [22:42:51] @jeb_cc you use it on Miraheze before? [22:44:44] Pretty sure ReplaceText is the one that can't work on MH, due to revisionCompression or something like that [22:45:00] Drat [22:45:01] [1/2] Should just be in the extension list? [22:45:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208544660536954900/Screenshot_20240218-0944172.png?ex=65e3abec&is=65d136ec&hm=b96332ef9db849090dd3d34327c9b0beae1498bbf5ec2bb46bb98110f331e2d5& [22:45:09] Huh [22:45:33] Pretty sure I've used it before on MH ^^ or my memory is garbage lol [22:46:15] 👎 [22:46:17] https://pandorastale.wiki/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-specialpages [22:46:19] Womp womp [22:46:25] What wiki is this [22:47:22] ReplaceText is disabled globally, as it isn't compatible w/ revision compression [22:47:44] Oh I'm thinking of WikiTide probably [22:47:45] Womp womp womp [22:47:51] Sigh [22:47:55] Ah. [22:48:00] So AWB it is [22:48:08] . [22:48:32] MassEditRegex extension can in many cases serve a similar function though (as the name suggests, it does require at least some basic regex knowledge) [22:48:32] I also tried [[mw:Extension:MassEditRegex]] but that didn't work. [22:48:32] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassEditRegex [22:48:33] [22:48:58] (Ninja'd). [22:49:12] Oof [22:49:24] Yeah personally fuck it use Auto [22:49:33] The extension didn't work or the syntax was incorrect? Cause with regex the latter is very probable lol [22:49:37] https://tenor.com/view/give-me-the-plant-vegans-gif-23768796 [22:49:41] Not that one [22:50:08] Yeah Regex when starting out can certainly feel like witchcraft [22:50:30] Yeah I probably just messed up the syntax. [22:50:42] Everything complex with wikis feel like black magic ngl [22:50:47] I'm going to try AutoBrowser in a virtual machine. [22:50:49] Parser funcs [22:50:55] I recommend using something like this to try and get the syntax correct: https://regex101.com/ [22:50:57] Well regex isn't wiki specific though [22:50:57] You use Mac? [22:51:10] Linux [22:51:22] Personally I prefer https://regexr.com/, but yeah there is a couple nice websites like that [22:51:24] Based [22:51:37] You can also practice with this lol /J https://jimbly.github.io/regex-crossword/ [22:51:39] If you have Wine that also works well I hear [22:52:14] I am a Windows victim so 😄 [23:02:03] Or this: https://geojson.io [23:09:16] Need help with Infoboxes, I need to change the colour scheme of them all via CSS, This is unreadable 😭  [23:09:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208550776629366824/image.png?ex=65e3b19e&is=65d13c9e&hm=a0411ca6fec3ec4f6174581f63c11057ccb3284e53a6ab0008659e33f0ebd008& [23:12:41] White text, white background. Very readable 👍 [23:12:59] I never edited the background colour [23:13:10] PIs are grey by default [23:13:13] Just realised it after we changed the text to white [23:13:22] I don't know then :e_sob: [23:13:38] How Do I change the colours of infoboxes? [23:13:55] Template:Infobo/styles.css [23:13:58] .portable-infobox { background:yellow; } [23:14:05] If youre using portable infoboxes that is. [23:14:17] Honestly, Idk.. [23:14:21] How Do i find out? [23:14:36] If your template js built with tags or not [23:14:40] Yes [23:14:56] Then its a portable infobox and the above will work [23:15:02] k [23:15:08] Can I change it to a hex? [23:15:16] Yes. [23:15:27] Hex, rgba, hsla are all valid options. [23:15:33] nice [23:16:31] Not.. working..? [23:16:57] [1/2] Shouldn't it work? [23:16:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208552696546730024/image.png?ex=65e3b368&is=65d13e68&hm=a1c8b65f061e0099559b2a765df5a05cdb2494768fcdd5d6c3ee197e3fd74e00& [23:17:34] I need to draw your attention to something [23:17:37] k [23:18:21] You changed the colours in your common.css and you use Cosmos skin right? [23:18:29] no? [23:18:34] I use Timeless [23:18:38] ah okay [23:18:54] Infobox/styles.css is NOT a valid place for that unless you are using templatestyles. [23:19:09] ? [23:19:16] Anyway. as Timeless has a dark background, the font colours work [23:19:24] I chnaged up the colours in MediaWiki:Timeless.css [23:19:26] But not on other skins [23:19:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208553360412778547/image.png?ex=65e3b406&is=65d13f06&hm=185a733a9db20bc1144e042314499f0f176f9c45d966a0cf6378ec20c08bc89c& [23:19:46] https://agesofconflict.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Timeless.css [23:20:11] Yeah, but aparently you did it in comon.css as well [23:20:27] https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [23:20:56] So other skins are affected too 😉 [23:21:27] So as you can see, in vector-2022 (the default skin) the text is unreadable [23:21:28] why you bring up other skins [23:21:43] PI styling goes to Common.css [23:21:55] or TemplateStyles [23:22:01] he enabled it [23:22:21] but to make TS work you should add a special tag in template [23:22:28] I'm confused [23:22:36] What Do I gotta do? [23:22:48] Add the code into MediaWiki:Common.css [23:22:58] Disregard infobox/style.css [23:23:11] Add the Timeless CSS all into the Common CSS? [23:23:26] infobox styling only [23:23:35] also remove sidebar code from Common.css [23:23:39] please understand [23:24:03] Uh.. [23:24:05] that Common.css - is the main styling page, that affects the wiki always [23:24:17] I'm sorry I don't get it 😭 [23:24:27] Timeless.css is only for Timeless the skin, its layout and specific elements [23:24:33] 👍 [23:24:49] I'm using Timeless Skin [23:24:49] Common.css is loaded on every request, regardless of the skin. Skin.css is loaded only on the specific 'skin' [23:25:03] but why should this matter? [23:25:09] move this to Common.css [23:25:10] I'm keeping the Timeless Skin [23:25:25] that i can understand [23:25:53] Because you have some code in Common.css that should go in Timeless.css [23:26:15] his Timeless.css is complete (he copied min) [23:26:27] only sidebar was in Common.css for some reason [23:26:36] Sidebar? [23:26:52] You mean the code to remove the right collem and make it on the left? [23:27:07] If so that would be on both CSS's [23:27:21] You copied also the colours [23:27:28] but it's useless on Common [23:27:31] Selectors are different on different skins. [23:27:48] smacks lip Thank you MediaWiki [23:27:54] [1/24] ```/ Links / [23:27:54] [2/24] / Normal / [23:27:55] [3/24] a { [23:27:55] [4/24] color: gold !important; } [23:27:55] [5/24] a:visited { [23:27:55] [6/24] color: gold !important; } [23:27:56] [7/24] a:hover { [23:27:56] [8/24] color: gold !important; [23:27:56] [9/24] text-decoration: none; [23:27:57] [10/24] text-shadow: 2px 2px 5px black; } [23:27:57] [11/24] / Red / [23:27:58] [12/24] a.new { [23:27:58] [13/24] color: gold !important; } [23:27:59] [14/24] a.new:visited { [23:27:59] [15/24] color: gold !important; } [23:28:00] [16/24] / External interwiki and web links (affects long Special: links too) / [23:28:00] [17/24] a.extiw, a.external { [23:28:01] [18/24] color: gold !important; / Different color / [23:28:01] [19/24] background-image: none !important; / Removes icon / [23:28:02] [20/24] padding-right: 0 !important; } [23:28:02] [21/24] body #mw-content-text { [23:28:03] [22/24] color: white; [23:28:03] [23/24] }``` [23:28:04] [24/24] Please remove this from common.css [23:28:04] skins differ, that's why they have skin specific CSS pages [23:28:15] Ro, please [23:28:22] Theres no reason this cant go in common [23:28:23] stop confusing him [23:28:35] Please stop giving advice if you do not understand it yourself. You are confusing him more. [23:28:36] That is affecting all skins [23:28:45] I just worked w/ him earlier over links [23:28:50] please everyone [23:29:09] Did what you said to bdo [23:29:52] it's 2am and I'm getting headache again [23:29:59] sorry [23:30:21] What next? [23:30:24] Maybe rest up ^^" 2am is not a good time for css lol [23:30:25] [1/3] Ok, sorry, just see that the links are in yellow on a white background. [23:30:25] [2/3] The code is called from common.css. [23:30:26] [3/3] But I but out, sorry [23:30:57] What do i do a:e_sob_scream: [23:31:02] <.labster> I'd give CSS advice but I have no idea what's going on right now [23:31:08] Honestly same [23:31:19] I wanted to change my Infoboxes colour [23:31:29] Should be so much simpler [23:31:36] <.labster> You know more than me then. [23:32:36] Godspeed for you doing this at that hour :salute: [23:32:41] [1/2] Why is this not working :/ [23:32:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208556657571799050/image.png?ex=65e3b719&is=65d14219&hm=dc576fcedf841cc3b353a705a5e289aa59313a42bc299657471bacefb26b5148& [23:32:42] <.labster> Just do the Rolling Stones approach, `* { color: black !important; background: black !important; border-color: black !important }` [23:32:53] I love it [23:33:00] Thank joo for your service [23:33:05] josh please don't listen to labster [23:33:14] <.labster> no, do it, do it now! [23:33:15] Nvm [23:33:30] I just had to put ```.portable-infobox { background:#C9A86E; }``` in the Timeless CSS [23:33:30] please make a thresd [23:33:43] Legal disclaimer; this is sarcasm! [23:33:45] Why do Y'all make things so much more complext for me 😭 [23:33:53] <.labster> If you make a thread, it will be easy to see the specific changes you want right now. [23:34:02] I've done it 😭 [23:34:23] Oh shit though.. I fixed a problem and made another problem 😭 [23:34:27] We don’t, we just don’t make it as hand holding as fandom [23:34:33] My Links turned blue [23:34:38] It's not complex, it would just help if you have a foundation understanding of CSS. Again, I highly recommend you go through various CSS tutorials if it's something you want to do more of. [23:34:42] <.labster, replying to j0sh2> welcome to software development [23:34:55] its hard trying to explain how to do something to someone who doesnt understand or know about it in the first place [23:35:16] because you did what Ro said when I objected [23:35:24] it could be easier [23:35:29] w3schools is free!!!!!! (not being rude this is how i learned) [23:35:38] if we had isolated venue and were slower, all [23:35:56] <.labster> w3schools is terrible once you know how things work, but honestly not bad when you're a total beginner? [23:36:05] Open a thread [23:36:06] now, I apologize, but I really need a break [23:36:16] hope you'll get it sorted [23:36:17] i get wanting to make your wiki/website/anything look cool and awesome asap but sometimes you gotta hold off and go practice first [23:36:52] w3schools + chatgpt works pretty well for me. It's not perfect but gives me good base ideas to work from. [23:37:28] Now I can't unfix the problem.. [23:37:32] <.labster> I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person in the world who hasn't used ChatGPT [23:37:34] [1/2] I gave you an advice to remove that code, as I understand the basics of the css. But @legroom overruled me, and told you not too. [23:37:34] [2/2] I think you didn't see his message [23:37:40] Why's my damn Gold links disappeared 😭 [23:37:47] I'm undoing what i did, Nothings changing [23:37:48] Put the code back that you removed before [23:37:57] So put it back where it was [23:37:59] <.labster> You can always revert wiki pages [23:38:03] You might be [23:38:06] i just google my problem and bruteforce until it works like god intended [23:38:07] I reset my Common and Timeless CSS to before I messed around with them [23:38:07] go to Common.css history and rollback the last change w/ lots of red numbers [23:38:50] ffs.. I don't know 😦 [23:38:57] I've undone everything [23:39:02] Yet it's the same [23:39:22] He did it. It's back again [23:39:24] <.labster> Force refresh in your browser [23:39:31] I did so so many times [23:39:35] If man can discover fire by rubbing two sticks together then I can design a website by smacking my head against the keyboard. [23:39:51] <.labster> It's not too late to paint it black, no colors any more [23:39:54] Ctrl F% aint doing nothing [23:40:11] undoing everything also means undoing the fix [23:40:19] Nope, The Fix is stuck [23:40:25] Aww nvm [23:40:30] Legitimately though that's how I solve most colour theme problems. Can't have clashing colours if it's all black grey and white (taps head) [23:40:36] Now we've got 2 problems when we started with one [23:40:53] <.labster> Too bad, I thought the fix was in [23:40:56] Also remember common.css takes a bit to work, if you've reverted it, just give it time [23:41:21] Can you please make a #support thread? [23:41:43] <.labster> I'm going to continue to give silly answers until a #support thread is made [23:41:44] this is why its recommended to work in inspect element first [23:42:22] Oh yeah whoever designed inspect mode needs like.. the Nobel peace prize. What a legend. [23:42:36] It's rescued my ass so many times [23:42:51] I also like using it to prank colleagues when they step away from their desk for a few minutes [23:43:46] [1/3] But really, I just know basic css. [23:43:46] [2/3] So why was removing that code so horrible? [23:43:47] [3/3] I thought that code should go in Timeless, not in common.css? [23:44:08] It removed other unrelated code, like the href colours. [23:44:19] <.labster> Yeah, debugging CSS in browser dev tools is a pleasant experience. Back in my day, we just had to FTP it to the server, then refresh Netscape Navigator. Of course we didn't have CSS problems back then, just ten million tags. [23:44:54] The good old times [23:45:34] i've been looking at older websites lately and every time i open the source im gobsmacked by all the font tags and tables and everything janky they did [23:45:42] We had to call in and wait for the noise to stop, upload FTP and hope the connection wouldn't fail. And we paid per minute! [23:46:21] Good old 1994 😄 [23:46:48] old man [23:46:53] hahaha [23:46:54] <.labster> And with the token when someone dropped the token ring connection, we had to search under their computers to find the token. [23:47:24] (uh no offense to anyone of any age) [23:47:29] <.labster> Though I do wonder if
tags were better than... this: https://www.joshwcomeau.com/css/center-a-div/ [23:47:33] (v-v) [23:52:53] [1/2] How Do I remove these? [23:52:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1208561741831737394/image.png?ex=65e3bbd5&is=65d146d5&hm=c3ef0364c42a98f6cc28080da32e5ec7add4097b96b3503c106a5ce716b42a70& [23:53:24] where is that [23:53:27] Well... ```
{{text}}/div/center``` doesn't work [23:53:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:text [23:53:45] https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485 [23:54:15] gasp! Deja vu [23:54:29] can you send a full ss [23:54:36] hai mike [23:54:52] Maybe make another support thread so it doesn't clog other convos happening here [23:55:18] What are some good methods for sharing images among two wikis, one of which is private? [23:57:58] <.labster, replying to rodejong> It would if you wrapped it in a just like Tim intended [23:58:43] WHo's Tim 🤔 [23:59:07] <.labster> Tim Berners-Lee [23:59:21] I've no Idea who that is [23:59:22] <.labster, replying to mike.a.v> commons.miraheze.org might be helpful for you, or perhaps wikimedia commons [23:59:42] <.labster> [[w:Tim Berners-Lee]] [23:59:42] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee [23:59:43]