[00:11:45] @bwm0 why you urple [00:12:14] moderator hehehe [00:12:39] I’m just running the Miraheze Meeting on Saturday with Labster [00:13:02] Would a Server Functionary Role not suffice? [00:13:45] that would be a moderator, yes [00:14:18] Moderator implies a successful election. [00:14:29] I’m only moderator till Saturday hah, don’t worry [00:14:33] I’m gone after that [00:15:08] My point is a new role with channel permissions would likely cause less confusion [00:15:28] that’s also a lot more work for 36 hours tbf [00:16:09] The set up would take 2 minutes on the high end. [00:16:14] it’s also occurred before as I recall [00:16:19] adding mod for a MH meeting [00:16:41] it isn’t really that big of a deal - i’m only authorized to act in meetings, i’m forbidden from the rest [00:17:00] Very well. [00:17:03] This last time was NotAracham who ran ahead of time and was elected mod [00:17:18] ah then so [00:18:08] anyway [00:19:23] I personally think we should have a role specifically for running Miraheze Meetings for not only this but any future member can without being full mod. [00:20:15] Aye, manage channel in meeting, write access in announce, and event perms should be all thats needed. [00:20:23] Granted its not a huge deal [00:20:37] Yep thats what I was thinking [00:20:48] Its not but itd be good not only for now but future also [00:26:40] Maybe a Meeting Committee that decides the topic of each meeting in advance [00:34:14] He wasn't made mod though, he was just granted perms in #meetings [00:39:28] ??? it gone [01:28:44] [1/2] For those interested to move the TOC to the sidebar in the 2010 vector skin: [01:28:45] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Gadget-stickyToc [01:37:04] <.labster, replying to agentisai> I did mod also for the announcement. I’m not very good at discord admin to be honest, but they elected me so here I am [01:38:09] <.labster> I’m honestly surprised people remember which color is which [01:42:04] Rubber stamp electorate at its finest, especially when someone has charisma [01:42:43] <.labster> I just rizzed up tbh [01:42:55] what is this gen alpha terminology [01:43:00] get off my lawn [01:44:49] Good night every one. CU2morrow [01:45:03] 🛏️ [01:45:10] 💤 [01:45:27] 🛌 [01:48:35] Ehmm... you can see the colors for the roles people have either in their profiles, or at least on desktop client, by rightclicking a user and hold over roles menu there ;), so no need to remember the colors of roles really [02:01:28] <.labster, replying to gummiel> So are you like checking that constantly? [02:03:45] Maybe not constantly(though I do from time to time sure), and if someone changes name color i sure as hell would check what it is [02:18:17] The icon next to the name shows the role name [02:18:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210410313053114388/d3HvpBs.png?ex=65ea7572&is=65d80072&hm=52e4857f85bdf220d477edd88564473bc9852f182dd89c018b0fadbb1e04f3c4& [02:19:04] Plus I just mentally associate colors and roles and people subconciously [02:19:29] ohh yeah the icons as well [02:21:01] [[wiktionary:rizz]] [02:21:01] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rizz [02:21:02] [02:21:36] > Rizz further increased in prominence throughout 2023 and was chosen as the 2023 Word of the Year by Oxford University Press. [02:21:44] krill me [02:22:30] <.labster, replying to pixldev> I’m gonna steal that for my Squid Girl fanfic [02:23:27] <.labster, replying to pixldev> Synesthesia lite, now with fewer calories [02:27:35] what [02:27:44] And here I thought I was the teenager [02:29:13] make me abmin so I can replace all channels with the trout emoji [02:29:34] We should have a discord-suggestions channel [02:29:48] so I can pester the admin cartel to use my role icons [02:29:50] sure, why not [02:29:58] craft up a color reform [02:30:01] I vote color anarchy [02:30:27] <.labster> I vote colors based on the Paranoia RPG [02:31:06] I partly dont wanna change role colors just cause all my role icons are based on color [02:31:40] [1/2] like for nitro [02:31:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210413638251192320/avaWO6t.png?ex=65ea788b&is=65d8038b&hm=8275832abcffe6c9db33dd38bf0a4e08ddb4a965b40882ecc2fb6237499e3682& [02:31:42] change verified wiki users to 313338 [02:31:53] why are you not transparent [02:32:06] because you didn't use my hex code [02:32:08] i could just run permanently ig [02:32:11] but like no [02:32:16] heh [02:32:31] #offtopic [02:32:48] thats not a suggestion channel [02:33:04] <.labster, replying to bwm0> This guy should be a mod [02:33:12] so true [02:33:18] You can't telepathically communicate with admins? [02:33:26] no [02:33:32] <.labster> No? [02:33:35] if you can that means ur mod material [02:33:41] report to #elections immediately [02:33:54] Damn maybe it's just me [02:34:03] <.labster> I’m thinking of a number [02:34:04] where are my roles colored in 313338 [02:34:27] 2024 [02:34:35] Vote on making a special raidarr role? [02:34:45] raidarr role with hex 313338 will do [02:34:59] :StrongestSupportMH: [02:35:26] 42671570 [02:37:12] <.labster, replying to pixldev> Wow how did you know? [02:37:34] MiraMagic [02:37:37] jk [02:37:39] WAIT I SWEAR IT WAS 2024 [02:37:40] noooooo [02:37:51] i can read all wiki related thoughts [02:37:59] fraudulent imo [02:38:05] <.labster, replying to bwm0> Maybe not qualified for mod after all [02:38:09] so do i go to #elections now? [02:38:23] yikes [02:38:27] I telepathically communicated with an admin [02:38:47] <.labster> Someone please ask a wiki help question so we can end this conversation [02:38:57] No [02:39:18] [1/2] Is this article I wrote for Reception Wikis Wiki a copyvio without me even realizing it? [02:39:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210415560890916954/Screenshot_20240222_203444_Discord.jpg?ex=65ea7a56&is=65d80556&hm=700659f5e2415f813ddaae2ac4a45ec503327f7f7938b9bb511275c2c12f7365& [02:39:24] No [02:39:28] yeet it into google [02:51:49] yis [02:52:14] running for server owner [02:52:52] move aside @nibblypup, we got a new sheriff in town [02:53:02] gl 🙃 [02:53:15] it's that spherical planet lad [02:53:20] how you doin [02:53:28] Hi Raidarr!! [02:53:42] shh, I'm incognito, they call me raidwet here [02:54:00] what's up Globe [02:54:06] haven't seen you in a very long time haah [02:54:09] cough actually Void is the server owner [02:54:10] Hi Brandon [02:54:12] not killa [02:54:18] it's NDK [02:54:23] killa is the cool dude [02:54:26] Nope. [02:54:28] void's just a board dude [02:54:35] ? [02:54:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210419407310815292/DixxKao.png?ex=65ea7deb&is=65d808eb&hm=dbb92d0eb2e891f44551b250b6a14d74db6c928ace0ae90f17048ef62bf3973e& [02:54:42] but yes void is technical owner [02:54:43] hmm [02:54:43] oh [02:54:45] oops [02:54:48] heh [02:54:50] but nd has the more fun ownery role [02:54:53] me wrong [02:54:54] yeah [02:54:56] that's the hat to go for [02:55:03] not trinket crowns [02:55:09] https://tenor.com/view/yay-excited-stoked-soexcited-soexcite-gif-1676391001433199870 [02:55:22] i didn't see the emoji at the end [02:55:28] which means you didn't see that [02:55:28] 0% responsibility 100% fun [02:55:40] and that's exactly what I learned on miraheze [02:55:47] Congrats on WC and GR [02:55:50] then forgot when I decided to take full legal liability for some new farm instead [02:55:54] appreciate it [02:55:54] Its been awhile [02:55:55] so I don't learn a damn thing [02:56:04] my man [02:56:09] feels like a bit much [02:56:14] lol [02:56:20] with a very creative name [02:56:23] makeawiki [02:56:25] the bestest [02:56:29] about to take off on a plane [02:56:32] be back in 20 [02:56:37] have fun [02:56:43] don't hit seagulls [02:56:44] how short is that flight [02:56:53] 4 hours? [02:56:56] ish [02:57:12] DFW to LAX [02:57:14] oh [02:57:29] What airline do you fly w/ [02:57:45] anyway up way too late anyway so have fun [02:57:47] Southwest on top [02:57:57] usually United - in this case American [02:58:04] or well 50/50 [02:58:07] im gonna keep going insane cause discord bot then eepy night night [02:58:12] what's the time [02:58:13] Okay, gotcha [02:58:27] right about 10 but if I'm up later than 3 I'm late [02:58:28] 🙏 [02:58:31] it worked [02:58:40] so [02:58:41] that took way to long and still not sure what fixed it [02:58:43] 5 hours till you're late [02:58:52] but thats how I role [02:58:58] 24 hr rounds make raid a strange lad [02:59:09] ooh new miraheze role [02:59:21] there are no legs to stand on we're all strange lads here [02:59:26] i'm telepathic remember [02:59:32] global captcha'd, yes [02:59:33] and pixl's the fraud telepathic [02:59:35] it's our finest yet [03:00:02] here I was hoping it was a role for raidette himself [03:00:11] haha [03:00:21] I mean I was the one who guess first try sooooo [03:00:28] 🙁 [03:00:53] 😠 [03:00:57] (Do you want to know what the number was lol?) [03:01:03] something 4 [03:01:17] no what it is [03:01:23] 42671570 [03:01:41] the amount of student debt I have? [03:01:41] /jk [03:01:42] lol BWM is definitely going to miss his flight [03:01:49] [[wikidata:Q42671570]] [03:01:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wikidata:Q42671570 [03:01:50] [03:01:52] nah we're just taxiing right now [03:01:56] guh [03:01:59] ah [03:02:03] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42671570 [03:02:07] [[wmf:wikidata]] [03:02:07] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/wikidata [03:02:07] [03:02:17] oh nice [03:02:17] its the wikidata entry for miraheze [03:02:21] idiot [03:02:27] [[WD:WD:Q42671570]] [03:02:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WD:WD:Q42671570 [03:02:28] [03:02:39] lmao [03:02:46] i need sleep [03:03:01] Great wikimedia support volenteer [03:03:37] I blame the admin cartel [03:03:37] @raidarr you got your role [03:04:06] Nice [03:04:10] Now [03:04:17] aight cyall tmr! [03:04:19] bai [03:04:23] @Discord Administrators whoever created the role please rename to `raidette` ty [03:04:41] Can I have a role? Pwety pwease. 🥺 [03:04:46] lol [03:04:48] https://tenor.com/view/kitty-eepy-gif-10295980600460052163 [03:04:58] `/auth` [03:05:11] 😠 [03:05:12] favoritism <.< [03:05:18] haha [03:05:23] lmaooooo [03:05:49] rofl [03:06:06] Let's move this to #offtopic [03:06:19] I don't want to get blasted into the void by an admin [03:06:36] void can take it [03:06:47] 👍 [03:06:50] ok now I disappear [03:06:52] <.labster, replying to bwm0> this man should be a mod [03:07:08] i should? [03:07:17] #elections [03:07:32] #BWM2024 [03:07:50] #BrandonWMForPrez2024 [03:07:51] would support actually [03:08:10] "actually" [03:08:27] This guy should be a mod [03:08:57] Y'know what I'm doing it [03:08:58] Please hold [03:09:06] awesome [03:09:18] I'm just copypasting what Labster said [03:09:38] for what seems to be a response to mini-modding [03:09:55] <.labster> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1210423148655153152/1210423148655153152 [03:09:59] @.labster we don't have permisions to comment in the thread [03:10:12] Or, I should say I cant [03:10:19] you need to be verified [03:10:27] <.labster> Globe: type `/auth` or go to #verify [03:10:34] ty [03:27:48] What happened to Paladox? [03:28:03] <.labster> Paladox resigned a couple days ago [03:28:12] ah, recent [03:28:14] got it [03:28:47] <.labster> Paladox has been intending to leave for a while, the Owen thing was the last event, but honestly it's more a result of general burnout, and having interests in other things (like politics right now) [03:29:11] Absolutely understandable [03:29:34] nice pronouns btw [03:29:44] chair/man [03:30:51] <.labster> thanks [03:31:20] <.labster> @cosmicalpha have you reviewed my pull request yet? [03:31:31] <.labster> It doesn't look like @cosmicalpha did it yesterday [03:31:41] oof a double ping [03:31:47] <.labster> So I have to ping @cosmicalpha a lot [03:31:57] I know MediaWiki can be rough but MediaWiki -> Politics sounds like a step down but hey I don't judge lol /j [03:32:06] <.labster, replying to cosmicalpha> Because @cosmicalpha asked me to do so [03:32:12] Lmao I did say to excessively ping didn't I... [03:32:23] I have sorta reviewed though but testing is a problem due to beta having not many wikis lol [03:32:39] I still dont think that was enough pings 😂 [03:32:48] Politics is rough lol [03:32:50] I may just deploy to prod and see what breaks. [03:33:00] <.labster, replying to zppix> Don't worry, that's what other channels are for [03:33:03] https://tenor.com/view/that-is-a-good-idea-ruben-rabasa-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-that-sounds-like-a-good-plan-that%27s-a-brilliant-idea-gif-12858270412293982282 [03:33:22] <.labster> Worst case you just break RandomWiki, right? [03:33:28] Dang it discord [03:33:33] haha [03:33:38] <.labster> I briefly saw cat [03:33:38] I didnt wanna send a cat I had a funny joke [03:33:47] <.labster> useless use of cat [03:34:01] :BanCatMH: [03:34:02] https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-16586137100027629238 [03:34:14] I’m just glad it was a cat 😂 [03:34:28] :BanHammerMH: [03:34:42] 🪕 [03:34:53] Why we banning banjos? [03:35:07] in place of violins [03:35:08] duh [03:35:46] But I like banjos and violins 🤔 [03:36:11] Might want to consider moving to #offtopic, y’all [03:36:15] https://tenor.com/view/robin-which-one-cobie-smulders-multitaskiing-gif-5852416 [03:36:26] https://tenor.com/view/violin-tiny-cute-gif-15898508 [03:36:38] good (future) mod [03:36:59] <.labster, replying to bwm0> Unfortunately I had to use this channel to reply to the "excessive ping" message [03:37:15] Its all Labster's fault [03:37:19] ban him [03:37:23] :BanCatMH: [03:37:37] <.labster> Anyone who actually needs help with wikis can interrupt this conversation and ask for help [03:37:46] provided I win hah [03:37:48] #support [03:38:07] Honestly I don't like to mention that when nothing else is happening. A little fun in #general never hurt anyone if there's nothing else going on, as long as not to excessive and as long as helping users is priority, and convos stop if someone needs help lol [03:38:28] fair [03:38:35] good point [03:38:54] <.labster> so stop mini-modding Brandon [03:39:13] 😆 [03:40:23] Yeah, hard part is to figure out when it's a little and when it starts becoming.. not little. THe line is unfortunately subjective. lol Before you know it, folks gonna start talking about their experiences playing band at school. [03:40:26] <.labster> @cosmicalpha seriously, just test it in prod. Not even kidding. [03:40:27] Stop stealing my coffee Labster [03:40:54] https://tenor.com/view/coffee-coffee-meme-morning-i-need-coffee-gif-473943975404476512 [03:41:06] ^zppix [03:41:11] I will, theres some minor code style issues that need fixed and CI needs fixed so it runs then I'll test in prod. [03:41:51] Solution: Disable CI, who needs that… uh code style eh who care it works dont it 😂 [03:42:10] It didn't cause catastrophic fatals on beta so good sign, but hard to test WD on beta lol [03:43:06] <.labster> I missed a space next to a parenthesis, fatal error in CI. [03:43:42] oh lol [03:43:45] ??? [03:43:54] ??? [03:44:04] didn’t know what that meant ahah [03:44:25] confuzzling [03:44:48] Uh ok? [03:46:03] yk nvm [03:46:13] too hard to explain [03:48:34] <.labster> confuzzling sounds like something that got posted on that furry feet wiki [03:48:56] it was an inside joke before I realized that no one would get it [03:49:06] lol [03:52:05] anyway [03:52:08] what’s up with people [03:52:50] has anyone ever called it "mirafeet" for all the feet content you apparently used to have [03:53:39] <.labster, replying to bwm0> A nonprofit that raises awareness through the power of song, but that's not important right now. [03:55:36] <.labster, replying to serverlessharej> please don't give chatGPT any ideas [03:55:46] might as well [03:55:55] We at one point probably hosted a terabyte of feet [03:55:58] ChatGPT didn't get the idea from me, don't worry [03:56:10] <.labster, replying to agentisai> what is that in metric? [03:57:26] 0.909494702 tebibytes [04:01:03] ummmmmm [04:15:00] No thanks. 🙀 [06:58:45] For some reason, using the site mobile keeps kicking me out [06:58:54] And when I try to sign in, it says I'm already logged in [07:08:52] Good Morning everyone. [07:16:15] good morning [07:16:22] it’s actually 11:16pm for me but [07:17:01] 3 hours behind you 😄 [07:20:31] Hey @rodejong [07:20:38] It's actually morning here [07:20:46] Clear cookies [07:21:54] Watching the F1 test? [07:23:01] Sadly in the office [07:23:57] same timezone :pupCoffeeMH: [07:24:04] Well, nothing special happening yet. Aero rakes galore and a lot of waffle [07:24:33] F1 waffle is nicer than project manager waffle [07:24:53] You're probably right 😄 [07:25:15] Well, almost weekend mate, Hang in there! [07:25:24] One more day… [07:28:08] [1/2] Question: [07:28:09] [2/2] Is there a way to alter the way "thumb" is used for images, like having the text above the picture in stead of below? [07:28:46] I can do it with a div ofcourse, but I'd rather have it done automatically [07:45:56] I went to reactivate the wiki I was managing but it got deleted instead? [07:46:45] That shouldn't happen [07:47:05] @Stewards: can we take a look if @arcorann says what wiki [07:48:24] Which Wiki? [07:51:23] https://nijisanji.miraheze.org [07:52:54] Also, while I'm here, captcha isn't showing up when I try to reply to someone on Meta [07:53:36] It had ~46 days of inactivity, I unticked the inactive box [07:54:13] you had to make an edit too [07:54:23] so really reset the timer [07:55:52] I thought just the log entry from unticking it reset it but maybe I am remembering wrong so don't take my word for it. [07:56:50] I remember about a month ago another wiki closing day on next day after reopen [07:57:15] Receprion or Brandon had to land a small edit [07:57:21] on another reopen [07:58:00] There's some issue with inactivity/wiki closures/deletion/undeletion right now but I don't know what it could be... [07:58:50] I tried to undelete, but failed. this is a problem that is currently occurring [07:59:16] It even affects normal ManageWiki changes not populating accross all servers. I really don't understand what it could be... [07:59:58] I really hate cache issues as they are so hard to debug [08:00:04] login issue, managewiki issues [08:01:12] can you explain that for dummies? isn't mhglobal only on one db server (no propagation needed there, besides I don't think we actually have clusters)? since "deletion" is actually just a flag on cw_wikis I don't see what's going on with deletions [08:02:28] It isn't an issue with database but rather CreateWiki cache, it updates fine in cw_wikis, but then doesn't populate down to cache files on all the servers. [08:03:44] At least I think unless it's more upsert issues [08:03:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210497253375082516/02_Whats_up_people_.mp3?ex=65eac66b&is=65d8516b&hm=2630070a592cd614e1ebe41185de71f6a7c20a4cccc5cee3a5115df7644479d3& [08:05:50] yep [08:07:45] i created a namespace called `News` which isn't linking as expected fsr [08:07:52] is `News` a special mediawiki thing too? [08:08:01] shouldn't be [08:08:02] I have to have my links like `[[:News|x]]` [08:08:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/:News [08:08:05] That was more helpful then my cup of coffee 😄 [08:08:16] it used to be my alarm [08:08:24] but i like the song too much to keep it [08:08:28] damn, that threw me to 2007 hard [08:09:01] I had My Chemical Romance - Sleep (Live in Mexico) on alarm\ [08:09:03] ```[[w:news:|]]``` [08:09:03] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/news: [08:09:18] the irony of the title [08:09:23] exactly [08:09:27] what's that do [08:09:42] Gerard screaming his lungs out w/ WAKE UP [08:09:47] Link you to Wikipedia, which redirects you to News [08:11:25] Same as ```[[w:nl:]] links to dutch Wikipedia, [[w:b:]] links you to Wikibooks``` [08:11:25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/b: [08:12:33] that's strange... [08:14:57] what's your wiki again [08:20:28] Not really. It works the same as Wikipedia: or Commons: [08:21:31] But I wasn't aware that [[news:]] would direct you elsewhere without w: infront of it [08:21:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/news: [08:21:32] [08:25:31] man, social profile is beyond broken now [08:25:43] I want to switch to wiki page and nothing changes [08:27:27] Social profile was always broken, idk what you're on about lol [08:27:40] I knooow [08:27:42] Never got social profile to work nicely for me, it can go fuck off in a hole [08:27:45] I got rid of it on my wiki [08:29:28] [1/3] my first thought was maybe there's `news` interwiki prefix, but nope :ThinkerMH: [08:29:28] [2/3] and it's same on my wiki, which doesn't have `News` namespace, I guess it's reserved in MW itself? [08:29:28] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210503681691099166/2024-02-23_11_27_17.png?ex=65eacc67&is=65d85767&hm=99833546f08c7074a8f9724c1e4bcd81958c87672981217444b1ab3fb2ee4dd0& [08:30:01] [1/5] here's an example [08:30:01] [2/5] ``` [08:30:01] [3/5] [[News:Roadmap|Tools Roadmap]] [08:30:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/News:Roadmap [08:30:02] [4/5] ``` [08:30:02] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210503818056568832/image.png?ex=65eacc88&is=65d85788&hm=4c7e25e8385dbc428972265c73d8d177149cfdcbc4c9aa2f970c4fc288f3ccd1& [08:30:07] Links to `news:Roadmaps%7CTools` [08:30:11] which is a nothing site [08:30:17] yah [08:30:38] really strange.... [08:30:50] at least it's possible to get around [08:31:10] try to give it different name, I guess [08:31:49] can't seem to find anything about this behavior [08:31:49] ```Try [[News:Roadmap | Tools Roadmap]]``` [08:31:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/News:Roadmap_ [08:31:57] Me neither [08:31:59] with the spaces? [08:32:02] yes [08:32:13] i just do `[[:News:Roadmap|Tools Roadmap]]` [08:32:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/:News:Roadmap [08:32:22] same thing [08:32:29] just looks worse [08:32:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210504477031927808/image.png?ex=65eacd25&is=65d85825&hm=a462246c7f2b59710e627ac4c0c1e3fb5387ace115adc60e497c05a45ffa8836& [08:32:53] Weird [08:33:12] it's like it recognises `[News:X]` as a link, no matter what [08:33:25] maybe there was an old feature or something of MediaWiki [08:33:34] like it's some weird interwiki prefix [08:33:41] I think it is due to MediaWiki have WikiNews included as Interwiki [08:33:43] the syntax highlter doesn't even show it [08:34:01] that would be `wikinews:` then? [08:34:10] Yes [08:34:20] [[w:news]] [08:34:20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/news [08:34:21] [08:34:25] need some mw veterans to exaplain this [08:34:36] need some mw admin to fix this [08:34:48] Isn't it possible to disable Interwiki? [08:34:55] that's a normal News page in main namespace [08:35:19] Oh that's weird [08:35:30] [[w:n:]] [08:35:30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/n: [08:35:31] [08:35:31] idk if Mira lets remove default prefixes [08:35:59] Not sure either [08:36:13] Yeah n: works [08:37:23] You could use "Newsroom" instead? [08:37:40] well, again, it doesn't actually matter lol [08:37:43] it's only a linking thing [08:38:01] i'd still prefer to keep the `News` namespace [08:38:21] I agree, It shouldn't be a link [08:38:38] Probably should make a Task [08:39:05] @agentisai you said the extensions were updated 2 weeks ago, but why doesn't Popups work? [08:39:07] or Previews [08:39:09] whatever it's called [08:39:23] before they weren't working sometimes, but now every link doesn't work with the popups [08:39:34] [1/2] all just [08:39:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210506225817755678/image.png?ex=65eacec6&is=65d859c6&hm=8a6b80b12b20f88e0ade803a9d38d339a91097ed993ab57c57141e8ee3784b7f& [08:39:55] There are others having the same issue [08:40:01] I can think only of cache issues, which now affect more areas [08:40:34] is there a way to fix that on my end [08:40:39] but yeah, I can't remember seeing Popups working when checking a wiki [08:40:50] in the ;ast 2 years [08:41:16] [1/2] well, it has been updatd [08:41:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210506654152396890/image.png?ex=65eacf2c&is=65d85a2c&hm=acc2433ea84ff77775db0aea18b00a1d11cddaa1a6490ab6cd68ea17b6fd4039& [08:41:23] on Miraheze [08:41:58] I knew a guy who made similar thing ob Dev Fandom, back in 2017? [08:42:00] idk if it's still a thing [08:42:06] [1/2] Wikipedia has it working fine, so i doubt it's an issue with the extension itself [08:42:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210506862470897684/image.png?ex=65eacf5e&is=65d85a5e&hm=906b2f00b579ef9e2b90da81a498d6941518d176a985017c87a920961f1e77c3& [08:44:52] [1/2] yup, still there, it's JS [08:44:52] [2/2] [08:45:18] can't help w/ set up tho [08:46:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210507858295390218/2024-02-23_11_45_55.png?ex=65ead04b&is=65d85b4b&hm=70e3c65d975a351b55b5b529546eff307109c62e5147db59b0b15232070c1575& [08:46:31] and I feel like it won't work right away on Mira [08:46:42] looks uglier anyway [08:46:59] when I migrated a wiki which used tooltips JS it had to be modified [09:01:26] oh btw [09:01:34] does anyone else have an issue while inspecting their wiki [09:01:52] where the fonts suddenly start switching between default-whatever and the intended font? [09:01:58] like, rapidly switching [09:02:06] which makes it really annoying to test stuff [09:02:19] it's almost like it's rapidly refreshing the CSS [09:02:31] but i haven't had this issue on any other website i've looked at [09:03:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210512340173324328/opera_JGYEQBbG6f.mp4?ex=65ead478&is=65d85f78&hm=cbbb8990f4b4f85d3cdeaeb109efd6ce6e561b964696bfa3b33686b53f6e4f02& [09:04:07] (usually it's a lot worse) [09:04:19] Weird. Never seen that [09:18:58] firefox user, never had that [09:21:29] likewise [09:22:12] :squint: [09:22:21] what are you having there [10:03:35] <.labster> maybe configure news: as a new interwiki prefix to link back to the current wiki? [10:04:06] <.labster> I'd at least try a steward request to see if they can do something to interwiki to fix it. [10:05:25] How'd that be done? [10:05:55] <.labster> add a new mapping with the website's own URL, maybe? [10:06:08] <.labster> who knows, maybe even #interwiki-requests could solve it for you. [10:06:56] ↑ ↑ [10:08:32] <.labster> I'm not sure it would work, but I think it's worth trying a few things. [10:10:45] what is that and why would it be needed [10:11:14] I might be confused [10:33:19] Kojo created custom `News` namespace but it acts very weirdly [10:33:25] very unusual [10:33:47] oh dear [10:51:57] ```In stead of working like [[Template:Name]] it works like [[Wikipedia:Name]] creating an External link.``` [10:51:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Name https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Name [10:52:53] 🤔 [11:13:27] I set up 1000 on recent changes in mu user preferences over Meta, but RC page still forces 500 [11:13:40] and it also seems to be less than 500 [12:52:33] What Miraheze news should I know? [12:54:19] We merged with WikiTide [12:54:32] we're hotter now [12:56:18] Are there any rule changes of nhote? [12:58:27] there's RfC on new content policy refresh, essensially nothing changed [12:58:49] the most controversial part is scrunity section [12:59:03] which included fanon, for some reason [13:05:08] I personly think fanon worldbuilding should be allowed. My "Aeru Online" world is fanfiction (and fits on Arcive of Our Own) [14:07:15] vote accordingly [14:24:04] https://tenor.com/view/brian-regan-derp-what-weird-crazy-gif-10124909933532690140 [15:14:18] [1/2] How do you create horizontal layout like this in infoboxes? [15:14:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210605561335513149/image.png?ex=65eb2b49&is=65d8b649&hm=adb73f039c0b4008dcd858fae341b78eddd1cbe16f7c615d159170aa71ff0c9f& [15:15:00] check that infobox template's code, must be horizontal group [15:15:25] it's advanced coding, not available in visual builder [15:20:01] I know how to do it on Fandom, but how do I make something similar on miraheze? [15:23:19] same as fandom. [15:28:35] Seems like I overcomplicated it way too much for myself 😅 [15:28:59] (you do need to enable portabel infobox in managewiki, though, if not already) 😛 [15:29:16] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1072042278580928532/1210607467692556339 appears to be suspicious [15:31:51] what Authority said, go to extensions admin menu [15:32:00] find and enable PortableInfobox [15:41:45] [1/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1072042278580928532/1210609939668533310 [15:41:45] [2/2] This is probably the same guy [15:48:17] How would I make a mediaWiki portal page? [15:50:51] [1/2] Look at other portal pages, find what you like and open the source pages, look what templates and styles are used at the bottom of the page. [15:50:51] [2/2] Copy these files on the same filenames on your own wiki, and if you need more info, you can ask again [15:52:08] That is the simple way. Avoid Wikipedia's due to the reason that there are often Modules and other dependencies involved [16:16:18] @rodejong what you doing on my user page [16:16:46] I keep getting pings about my talk page on jwmeetingwiki [16:18:11] [1/3] LOL. It's just a welcome, and adding a cat [16:18:12] [2/3] It's for myself easier to keep track which users I do not know on my Wiki, (The talkpages of the ones I don't know stay red 🙂 [16:18:12] [3/3] Sorry for the pings! [16:18:30] Happened only to 15 users 😄 [16:19:51] hi [16:20:06] i need some help with something [16:21:26] hello? [16:21:36] With what? [16:22:10] so 2 days ago [16:22:17] i made a wiki request [16:22:34] and after it was declined [16:22:39] they asked me some stuff [16:22:49] and i answered it [16:23:04] but i still got no reponse [16:23:06] reponse [16:26:10] ask away [16:27:01] He/She hasn't got an answer yet [16:29:25] It is this, reviewed by jph https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41330#mw-section-comments [16:30:49] They disconnected before you responded [16:31:12] glad I didn't ping jph then [16:31:52] He should have gotten a notif on the comment, may not have caught up to it [16:47:44] Is anyone else having file upload problems? [16:47:53] Specifically, server error 500 [16:56:18] I'm back [16:57:35] so i need some help [16:58:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41330#mw-section-comments [16:58:37] We found your request. [16:59:13] k [16:59:36] so can i get a response back? [16:59:57] JpH will contact you when he catches up. He will have received a notification. So I am sure he will come back to you as soon as possible. [17:00:07] k [17:00:29] We are all volunteers, so not 24/7 online 😉 [17:31:29] @raidarr y u custom icon 😠 [17:36:02] he clearly has connections [17:38:54] Those connections, made of copper and silicon, control how raidette acts and thinks [17:42:46] I had to delete my typing about 5 times because I thought I was tagging the wrong person [17:57:22] it's ``EditNotify`` enabled by default, or has been disabled? [18:04:06] has anyone else been having the 500 Internal Server Error nginx while trying to upload images [18:04:10] cause both me and my friend have [18:22:03] I have no issues [18:22:14] Been uploading images to my wiki [18:22:30] it all started with a failed drive wipe [18:26:01] yes, i have! [18:26:09] that's why i joined the server about two hours ago [18:49:53] This might be silly but is there any requirement to how “big” something needs to be to request a wiki? There’s a game I love but it’s pretty small fandom, no wikis seem to be hosted about it anywhere so I’m unsure if that’s just a case of no one else has started one or if it’s too small to be considered viable [18:50:30] Not really; almost anything can have a wiki on Miraheze no matter how small [18:50:34] ^ [18:59:06] Ooh good to know [19:02:19] Small/niche wikis also have an advantage: low chance of a Fandom wiki already existing :pupCoffeeMH: [19:05:26] [1/2] I think I like how my main page turned out: (still forgot to make fixes from ages ago) [19:05:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210663729952198756/3232432321.png?ex=65eb6176&is=65d8ec76&hm=7a07733c990df844162454e1a706156c28dcb5f5ee4ac944fb59b4524465023b& [19:07:33] Now I had a 500 error as well while uploading an image [19:11:02] I count 4 with this error now [19:11:33] [1/2] Yeah, I noticed there wasn’t one on there either which I was admittantly a bit excited about the possibility of having the first page for it on any wiki host haha [19:11:33] [2/2] I think my no life “5x the amount of hours in the game than 95% of other players” self is more than qualified 😂 [19:12:27] Go ahead then [19:19:40] How would I pad the words on my text boxes on my main page? [19:20:14] 0,5 em? [19:25:20] real quick: is there an 'owner' status on miraheze, or are people who have both admin and bureaucrat perms essentially that? [19:25:36] Yeah there’s no owner [19:25:43] There’s the founder who requested the wiki [19:25:45] that's what i gathered from looking at perms and stuff [19:25:46] yeah [19:25:48] And crats can manage user rights [19:26:01] There’s also no owner from a community standpoint [19:26:06] i like that tbh [19:26:14] democracy :EpicFaceMH: sort of [19:26:29] There’s a page on this but it still catching my breath from running [19:26:42] oh yeah no rush [19:27:05] Can you advice on the upload status? We're having 500 errors [19:27:22] Unfortunately I am not all knowing so I cannot [19:27:43] I made a very convincing case yesterday in #tech why I should never be made SRE [19:28:16] [[FAQ#Who owns a wiki?]] [19:28:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ#Who_owns_a_wiki%3f [19:28:16] [19:31:07] <.corgihero> Uhh, I can't access https://perpetuum.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:31:34] <.corgihero> Any ideas what happened to it? [19:32:36] nice, thank you [19:35:36] should make a MediaWiki skin enforcer firefox exetension so you get all the benefits of customization on MW wikis and you do not need an account [19:36:10] This wiki has been deleted either by request, for inactivity, or due to policy violations. [19:36:48] This is a question I had for the longest time. Why does my background go all the up? [19:37:09] Has there been activity on the wiki, has the admin who started the wiki been active? [19:37:16] When did you last view it? [19:37:16] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210671740947267654/Screenshot_20240222_161153.jpg?ex=65eb68ec&is=65d8f3ec&hm=9929a32264f641bf4162e155ed96083198a5acc759078ce7b3e8e6368eee4b36& [19:37:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210671741240873040/Screenshot_20240221_211042_com.opera.browser.jpg?ex=65eb68ec&is=65d8f3ec&hm=7fe2d7eac8951d5132246fd1a29c95272ffe3914903a77477dedd81c65643acd& [19:37:47] <.corgihero, replying to pixldev> A bit after the miraheze server migration [19:37:58] So a while. Did you edit it? [19:38:18] <.corgihero> Nope, I downloaded a file [19:38:43] you mean it's scrolling? or the white thing? [19:40:17] So no edits? [19:40:42] <.corgihero> There might've been edits, no idea. Just not from me 🙂 [19:41:29] May be been deleted for inactivity although I think the time may be too short [19:41:43] Anyways id ask for undeletion on [[SN]] [19:41:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [19:41:44] [19:43:38] Who should be pinged for an status update on uploading images? [19:44:56] What's the task / request ? [19:45:51] Some users are having 500 errors while trying to upload [19:46:00] Correct [19:46:36] [1/2] 500 Internal Server Error [19:46:37] [2/2] nginx [19:47:41] Is there a task? [19:48:55] Not yet [19:49:20] Make one prob [19:50:01] Okay [19:53:34] As pixldev said [19:54:00] me too :( [19:55:39] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11891 [19:55:53] I think it is common as I see in logs people are searching on meta in Category:Miraheze_help for "Internal Server Error" ... I am investigating what is going on. [19:55:58] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11891 [19:59:01] [1/2] I have an additional question in relation to this (and I did read the inactivity FAQ but didn’t see this addressed at all) [19:59:01] [2/2] How would one avoid inactivity deletion for a “complete” page? The game is a relatively short game as of now and the dev has gone on record to state that he has no idea when he’ll be able to work on chapter 2, how would I avoid having the page deleted for inactivity if there simply isn’t anything more to add? [20:00:57] so it's not just me [20:00:59] duly noted [20:08:50] this is inconvenient because i was just about to test something that requires a file upload 😔 [20:09:47] These things are always inconvenient. I was just uploading for some articles as well. [20:10:03] rip... [20:12:09] Inactivity is by wiki not page [20:12:29] If you think the whole wiki will go unedited for a long while you May request an exemption on [[SN]] [20:12:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [20:12:30] [20:22:05] What do you think makes a good MediaWiki css theme? [20:25:00] Depends on personal taste and what the wiki is about [20:25:54] periodically trying to upload to see if the 500 error has been resolved yet [20:26:10] Yep, me too, but nope, still there [20:26:17] also yeah it depends on what you're going for [20:26:17] I made a task for it [20:26:34] you can really do anything with CSS after all, so there's not really a rule of thumb for what is 'good' [20:26:43] though at minimum i would expect it not to cause eyestrain [20:27:06] I use Anisa skin. Simple, calm for the eyes [20:27:12] Not making me want to enable safe mode is a good one ig [20:27:12] I personly like monocrome themes (even the 0ld theme was mostly grey) [20:27:21] Safe mode? [20:27:24] what does safe mode do actually? [20:27:41] It prevents you from loading user defined CSS/JS [20:27:55] Ie user/common.css, global ect [20:28:01] Is some CSS that ugly/unusable? [20:28:11] For trouble shooting or in an emergency if there’s bad js [20:28:25] Somewhere im sure [20:28:25] oh, huh. i thought user CSS/JS was user specific though...? i might be misunderstanding how user stuff works though [20:28:33] Although I said it as a bit [20:28:40] It is [20:28:41] I do know one type of iki that does have ugly css [20:28:48] Safe mode is something you add to css [20:28:51] Wait [20:28:53] URL [20:29:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze?safemode=1 [20:29:24] or [20:29:25] hm [20:29:27] oh I know [20:29:38] [[mh:rainworld]] ha sa lot of css iirc [20:29:39] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/rainworld [20:29:40] [20:30:13] compare https://rainworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Rain_World_Wiki and https://rainworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Rain_World_Wiki?safemode=1 [20:30:20] [1/2] That’s my bad, I did mean “wiki” when I said page, I’m used to doing any sort of databasing on a site where “page” is the term for the overall thing. [20:30:20] [2/2] I’d anticipate this wiki being inactive for an indefinite amount of time once I’ve finished squeezing every bit of info about the game into it, since any info about the game hasn’t been updated since November of last year, so I wasn’t sure if the solution would be to make trivial edits every so often or to request it stays up somewhere 👌 [20:30:31] >said to a rain world fan [20:30:32] /lh [20:30:39] yeah we have a ton of CSS [20:30:52] oh wow [20:31:01] CSS went 💥 [20:31:09] Yeah, so def request an exemption from our wonderful stewards [20:31:19] happy accidents [20:31:23] [1/2] urk [20:31:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210685357448757258/image.png?ex=65eb759a&is=65d9009a&hm=f331f1f686e6d9943f4fea5d7a1a47b60a56401401996eaab4df8da2b8ae248e& [20:31:33] e [20:32:01] yall should give more thought to the poor 3 users who run with safemode on [20:32:08] lmfao [20:32:38] i actually run the rain world mods wiki, not main wiki, but we did recently heavily borrow main wiki's CSS [20:32:38] anyways 1k articles is awesome good for you [20:32:50] though we don't have that um. i don't know what to call that [20:32:53] compendium? at the bottom [20:33:02] so maybe it's fine :squint: [20:33:10] navbar I believe [20:33:18] think so yeah [20:33:59] navbox* [20:34:04] right [20:34:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox [20:34:24] maybe i should actually ping a main wiki admin [20:34:49] though i can't imagine anyone would be too happy about having to redo a big chunk of CSS [20:35:17] for the safemode thing? nah it was a joke [20:35:54] yeah yeah fair [20:36:01] it's nice that it's an option though [20:36:19] hello [20:36:31] there seem to be issues with file uploads [20:36:48] It's known of [20:36:54] oh good [20:36:57] thank you [20:37:01] I think someone made a task for it on the tracker [20:37:03] lemme check [20:37:24] [[phab:T11891]] [20:37:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T11891 [20:37:25] [20:37:39] ty [20:39:46] I triaged as normal for now [20:40:47] @cosmicalpha think you could check it out later? (also lmk if this is smt that should be triaged as high plz n ty) [20:41:25] Priority 1 I believe 😄 [20:43:21] [1/2] It can be UBN, I think we know the cause, and if so it would eventually expand errors to not just uploads (which would put it as a UBN-priority task). We will lower if that isn't the case, but at the very least it is high priority even if just uploads. [20:43:22] [2/2] We are working on fixing though. [20:43:56] 👌 [20:44:12] thanks [20:45:24] gucci, we barely ever put anything in high so wasnt sure [20:48:37] What is UBN? [20:49:04] Unbreak Now! [20:49:12] ok [20:55:01] Do uploads work now? [20:57:23] @rodejong [20:57:24] Affirmative [20:57:32] Great [20:57:36] Thanks [20:58:09] No problem [20:59:43] @mcgospels @semiotic.waters [21:04:59] yay it works now [21:05:10] thank you cosmicalpha! [21:09:37] :rivblinks: [21:11:14] I need to make a lot of css edits at some point anyway because the wiki should be readable on mobile but ehhhh I don't know how much time this will take. [21:27:56] just use Timeless :EpicFaceMH: [21:35:12] so true! [21:40:09] [1/2] i made a checkuser request [21:40:09] [2/2] so now i'm waiting for a steward to respond [21:43:15] thank you! [21:43:24] out of curiosity, what was the issue? [21:44:01] :nomChocoStrawberry: hi candle [21:44:21] wiki is okay on mobile but it’s eehh in some bits i think? [21:45:11] The storage was apparently full on one of the servers, so they had to fix that. [21:46:20] ah, that makes sense [21:51:06] @agentisai this is a ball wiki so might be your area [22:03:47] (Yeahhhh it's usable but mobile mode is very unstyled and desktop mode on mobile has a lot of problems with absolute/relative sizes, we just need to fix either so that mobile wikiing gets closer to not being awful compared to PC) [22:11:45] [1/2] How Do I fix this 😭 [22:11:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210710617091219537/image.png?ex=65eb8d21&is=65d91821&hm=b8f7955c0ce653fd2efbb11c1f6ee9fbdff7c6d950cf6cac5ff54dccf803d81c& [22:12:05] It happens whenever I Switch to Source editing from Visual Editing [22:27:23] Not binging Drive to survive? 😆 [22:29:41] <.labster, replying to j0sh2> Learn system administration skills, join Miraheze SRE, start debugging the exceptions. [22:30:10] What 😭 [22:30:23] In english plz [22:30:34] <.labster> You asked how you can fix it. If you want other people to fix it, open a #support thread [22:30:36] alternatively, pay me to debug it for you and your error reports will be treaten with UBN priority on phorge 😉 [22:30:38] Have someone else do it [22:30:45] thats the english lol [22:30:54] as in its an issue our guys need ot fix [22:30:57] it aint your fault [22:31:32] @j0sh2 open a task on issue-tracker.miraheze.org, we can't help with server-side errors on Discord since we don't know what is going on [22:31:47] only SRE can help you [22:32:12] [[phab:]] [22:32:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab: [22:32:13] [22:32:22] <.labster> SRE, you're our only hope [22:32:28] lmao [22:33:26] SRE? [22:33:34] the tech people [22:33:37] Can you post the exception id please [22:39:20] <.labster> it's in the image, but it's nice to have a copy-pasted version so I don't have to retype [23:10:00] How Do i use Tabbers or wikimedia's version of it? [23:10:14] [1/2] These things [23:10:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210725336611037264/image.png?ex=65eb9ad6&is=65d925d6&hm=11c739e3503256e5819f005bc373642037c325eb1fe62391e0ee09ea1fd2a7dd& [23:10:25] Fandom's code dosen't work.. I don't think [23:15:31] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue [23:15:50] instructions under the usage section, enable in your wiki settings [23:16:14] Just ticked the tab extensions on [23:16:31] how Do i use it..? [23:17:50] I'm confused.. [23:17:59] I've.. like half implimented it..? [23:18:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210727326908813332/image.png?ex=65eb9cb0&is=65d927b0&hm=0d0023a8728c429c9ca654233d7e6c236c76660e1823d545ea44b73c2926e6b6& [23:25:49] Anyone..? [23:26:03] On nvm, Took a while to load lol [23:45:28] [1/3] why won'ty it let me enable it yet? [23:45:29] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210734202400677899/image.png?ex=65eba318&is=65d92e18&hm=ae4aaa1ab0937e4254e8c5764c8f4ed23691e99f7325b3baa244f8567826d4b8& [23:45:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210734202824298556/image.png?ex=65eba318&is=65d92e18&hm=cb9d0dfedffc0026b84526b683898066e7cd197ac1c302f983c269ba4071ffbd&