[01:19:03] congrats @110 [01:19:11] congrats @kiju1108! [01:21:18] Thanks! [01:21:30] need the Meta admin role :p [01:23:28] What role is that color from Brandon? Is a nice soft-grey [01:25:39] [1/2] Global Rollbackers🤔🤔 [01:25:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210759414777253888/IMG_2370.png?ex=65ebba93&is=65d94593&hm=e16cc88339bd0d13d3803b6b72127c416cf286016cf967c254a5bcadc7ae6306& [01:27:17] hate grey tbh [01:27:31] you can just kick yourself from that group (I think) [01:27:53] Nope [01:28:03] Stewards have no discord perms actually [01:28:26] Just a fancy color and icon? [01:28:27] Fixed [01:28:34] pretty much [01:28:50] Thanks:) [01:29:08] steward has not had independent discord powers since they were bound to platform roles [01:29:09] By far the best use for discord roles tbh, colors and icons. [01:29:14] Basically [01:29:20] Shame icons are nitro only [01:29:28] icons and sidebar ought to be the key [01:29:34] Yeah [01:29:35] color is arbitrary here [01:29:47] I still don’t know why software engineers isn’t hoisted [01:29:53] Color is arbitrary in most discord servers I’m in… [01:29:57] blue pleaseee [01:30:10] it may as well be arbitrary here, then you'd get more flexibility [01:30:18] but now it's an inflexible color moshpit [01:30:26] ah well [01:30:35] I personally think that there should be a bot for it all [01:30:37] but I digress [01:31:14] Anyways for the GIA proposal, where should I add ‘GIA’s May make edits to a sites interface on request from the local community with evidence of community consensus and no active crats/admins’. Make a proposal 5? [01:37:01] We can thank Doug for this [01:37:19] They're not important enough \:P [01:37:33] gasp how dare you! [01:37:56] Zero trust is so boring sometimes [01:49:18] @.labster see DMs [02:07:38] As someone who's been managing wiki-related Discord servers for almost seven years now, this is actually a good thing. Discord moderation and wiki moderation are two different things, and they should not be bundled together. [02:08:48] Back in the ye olde days of IRC, wiki admins were the only ones who could manage the IRC channels. The problem was, most wiki admins were not knowledgable of IRC. I pushed to have the roles unbundled so that knowledgable IRC users could get the keys to managing the channels. [02:10:15] [1/2] Nowadays on our Discord server, wiki admins get a separate channel to privately coordinate with other wiki admins, and they appear in their own spot in the user list, but they have no special Discord powers. Our Discord moderators are not knowledgeable about the wiki, but that is fine; their expertise is best invested into running the server. Same goes for our wiki admins; they don't ha [02:10:15] [2/2] ve keys to tools they don't know how to use. [02:24:38] just noticed this [02:25:14] blad role proposal - "4/10", light purple role [02:57:22] [1/2] does anyone here have reccomendations for editing permissions [02:57:23] [2/2] my wiki got totally fucked over while i was at work and i feel horrible to all my users for not setting permissions well [02:59:10] What got messed up? [03:02:04] for some context i run a fan wiki for a community hosted on roblox which had official endorsement from the heads of the community, while i was at work a group of people flooded the wiki with nsfw and other general vandalism and lost our official endorsement [03:02:53] Ahem, its who shall not be named now. [03:03:31] Were these registered users or IP vandals? [03:04:01] He left a big impact on Miraheze, no denying that. We'll be unraveling what is policy and what is Dougcree as we continue to move forward [03:04:43] Registered user, but they only registered while I was at work and made no prior contributions [03:05:47] What I'd suggest then is to enable the Moderation extension. This puts all edits into a queue which you have to approve but it allows you to exempt users from having to undergo this process which means you can basically set it to only queue edits made by users you don't trust/new users [03:06:06] Yeah and changed policies without any consensus… god I still think that was the worse mistake ever made [03:06:30] No use in reminiscing 2020-2022 [03:06:42] though it's weird, it feels like his reign just finished yesterday [03:06:48] Was it really that long ago? [03:06:54] it sure doesn't feel like it [03:07:02] I thought it late last year [03:07:13] Thank you, I had no idea this was a thing [03:07:14] heh, no [03:07:16] 🛌 Good night every one [03:07:20] He got defrocked in maybe 2022? [03:07:24] Night! 🌝 [03:13:49] no problem [03:31:17] Wow didnt realize it had been that long [03:35:01] Is Meta namespace changed? [03:35:49] I think some links are broken [03:36:10] it isn't, no [03:36:13] I'll check [03:36:53] should be fixed [03:36:59] if not, purge the page cache [03:41:19] Thanks, it fixed [04:22:01] <.labster, replying to bwm0> okay changed color, you're welcome [04:22:24] i’m a peach [04:22:32] 🍑 [04:22:44] <.labster> You're a Georgia peach [04:23:02] 🍑🍑 [04:48:01] :hype: [04:51:14] Yeah it's been a while [04:56:23] collei is back? [05:01:05] Didn't know about that, can I have some contexts? [05:01:26] No, i rather not go there [05:01:43] well alr then :skull_c: [05:02:13] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests#lhmnwiki [05:02:13] [2/2] testing the domain root thingy, just wait to get approved [05:04:27] (cc @Stewards, turning myself to a guinea pig now) [05:19:12] That should be approved by SRE in the beginning, as if a Steward does it and no one from SRE was around it could redirect loop and cause a problem and only SRE could fix it. That's why it's restricted. Stewards can activate just ping us to make sure we are around first. At least for the first few requests. [05:19:54] I should have put that as a comment on it for Stewards as a note [05:21:30] and I will translate that, if at least it is added to i18n [06:27:59] <.labster> I feel like people are wasting our precious Nitro on super-reactions [06:29:13] You get indefinite now I think [06:30:31] <.labster> Nitro is not a renewable resource, once it's used up, we'll have to go to space to mine more Discord roles and reactions [06:45:57] is smthn up w/ the images rn [07:29:23] Final call for topics for tomorrow's Miraheze meeting! DM me or reply here. Thanks and see everyone tomorrow! [08:14:57] is anyone suddenly getting logged out at random intervals? [08:17:02] <.labster> Yes [08:17:24] <.labster> Well, not suddenly, it’s been happening for months [08:52:33] Years, probably [09:20:33] [1/2] Currently, a newly created Module Page in my wiki is not working as "Scribunto" in the Page content model. [09:20:33] [2/2] However, the Special:ChangeContentModel page is not available to me even though I am a bureaucrat [09:29:23] add the right to change page model in permissions, for some reason sysop/bureau don't have it by default [09:29:54] I feel like it's a recent issue, a year ago nobody reported that, I noticed by myself in August [09:31:41] Thank you. I'll check it out. [09:58:11] Thanks, the ChangeContentModel permissions issue has been resolved. [09:59:36] [1/2] But the Module page issue is not solved. [09:59:36] [2/2] I don't know if this is related, but the syntax highlighting is applied to previously created Module pages. But on new pages it does not work. [10:17:46] To fix the bug I tried uninstalling and reinstalling visual editor in extentions but it's gone now.. I've refreshed cashe several times [10:20:58] It's better to install modules with the source editor [10:22:01] Well I don't know but I've broken something 😭 [10:22:32] visual Editor is enabled but it's been like 5 mins and I've still been refreshing cashe [10:27:32] Anyone know what i can do? [10:34:49] I have no experience with VE, sorry. [10:36:44] VE is buggy as hell tbh [10:37:13] Clearly.. [10:37:28] Well at least.. How Do I setup a custom curser for the wiki? [10:38:41] Self-resolved. The cause was that the source code was too large 😉 [10:39:12] [1/2] It's back but this keeps hapening [10:39:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210898716932841512/image.png?ex=65ec3c4f&is=65d9c74f&hm=864667f93bdffb543179c72e802ccb5a8fdc8e519aa3e91871a514069f496532& [10:39:30] If I make a change in visual and swap to source, it also removes all progress in the edit [10:40:46] Try disabling VE from your preferences. [10:41:14] Preferences? [10:41:20] oh found it [10:42:33] Wait, How does that fix anything? [10:42:39] I want visual editing [10:42:43] All that does is remove it [10:43:30] remove and reenable I assume is the idea there [10:43:40] Just did so [10:43:42] let's see [10:43:42] but if that won't do it internal errors sound like sre triage time/issue tracker task [10:44:05] ```[fc4ea77243e8628534080d8b] 2024-02-24 10:43:56: Fatal exception of type "Error"``` [10:44:17] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1210899172291510322 [10:44:26] hopefully someone can try and find a fix [10:44:38] For now here [10:44:47] How do I setup a custom curser? [10:47:01] he meant a task on issue-tracker.miraheze.org to be created [10:47:14] this is where more serious problems go [10:47:24] it was a bit more obvious when I could just call it [[phabricator]] [10:47:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phabricator [10:47:25] ah alright [10:47:26] [10:47:42] I really should remember and just link phorge [10:50:05] I can't login? [10:50:23] The password for my miraheze account won't work and password reset didn't send anything to my email [10:50:36] [1/2] don't do it manually [10:50:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210901588403560508/image.png?ex=65ec3efc&is=65d9c9fc&hm=e1d456c5414a4ac7fec2d9f71e23356668d3d4114cf08f756dc97cdeae055303& [10:50:45] click login w/ mediawiki [10:50:51] My bad oop [10:50:58] it creates an account tied w/ your Miraheze account [10:51:01] it's not intuitive whatsoever, it's we who apologize [10:51:02] wait [10:51:09] yep there it is [10:51:25] thanks [10:51:26] copy paste the code error in task description [10:51:40] the entire thing w/ numbers etc [10:51:48] So.. [10:52:08] I make a... blog? [10:52:18] or comment..? [10:52:42] Or better off How Do I make a report/comment whatever [10:53:34] [[phorge]] [10:53:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge [10:53:36] [10:53:37] go here [10:53:46] report bugs? [10:53:47] click REPORT BUG button [10:53:53] Yep [10:53:53] was just about to say, that page gives it step by stpe [10:54:00] sorry I can be a bit dense at times [10:54:22] never liked the process much myself [10:54:23] Priority? [10:54:28] blank [10:54:32] or triage whatever [10:55:12] it would be nice to have buttons somewhere in phorge itself [10:55:36] I also always struggle to see which tasks I have created [10:56:53] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11896 [10:57:09] there is, go to Maniphest and there is a button for showing tasks created by you [10:57:33] [1/2] i coded some lines on minerva.css and also minerva.js to modify the style of that skin, but it doesn't work [10:57:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210903335587291197/image.png?ex=65ec409c&is=65d9cb9c&hm=2ebea6167f130c0ba3c4ad9898142d255293d6e6081f426b29a072d004c57e5c& [10:57:48] how to fix that? [10:57:53] excellent, only change I'd say outright is a more clear title like 'internal error in visualeditor' [10:57:56] for the meanwhile, How do I setup a custom mouse curser? [10:58:57] weren't you told that you have edit Mobile.css for mobile mode? [10:59:15] mobile mode ignores any other [10:59:26] [1/2] oh [10:59:26] [2/2] but i see minecraft wiki on minerva.css not mobile.css [10:59:31] but how?? [11:00:19] don't look at independent wikis too much [11:00:45] they may have made some deeper changes in MediaWiki which won't fly on Miraheze [11:01:02] i typed it on mobile.css but it still doesn't work [11:01:11] How do I setup a custom mouse curser? [11:03:40] short on time but either way I'd google it and make css changes accordingly [11:03:41] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/cursor has some docs on that [11:05:23] Uh.. [11:05:30] Dosen't make much sense [11:05:38] I want a custom image curser [11:05:42] also where Do i even put it [11:05:45] Common.css? [11:05:57] yes, it is CSS code [11:06:12] [1/2] learn [11:06:12] [2/2] sooner or later you'll have to, like any other proper wiki admin [11:06:54] HTML, CSS, template coding, parser functions, magic words [11:07:15] Well I'm not doing that rn [11:07:27] Just what code is needed to setup a custom image mouse curser? [11:07:30] [1/5] `` [11:07:30] [2/5] body { [11:07:31] [3/5] cursor: url("URL to your custom cursor"), auto; [11:07:31] [4/5] } [11:07:31] [5/5] ``` [11:07:42] thanks [11:08:18] So.. [11:08:32] [1/3] ```body { [11:08:33] [2/3] cursor: url("https://static.miraheze.org/agesofconflictwiki/5/5e/Default.png"), auto; [11:08:33] [3/3] }``` ? [11:09:24] and I'm assuming I'll have to wait a little bit for it to register [11:09:51] Correct [11:10:13] Alr [11:13:08] it's possible to edit LocalSettings.php on miraheze wiki? [11:14:55] Okay so.. [11:15:08] The mouse is bloody huge [11:15:31] Hpw Do I make it, Normal sized? [11:15:48] read the docs, it says you should stick to 32x32 images [11:15:55] ty [11:17:02] All our config is open source but you don't need to for a lot [11:18:16] And how Do I change the mouse hoverer? [11:18:21] for when you hover over links [11:18:29] with CSS selectors [11:18:33] ? [11:19:37] you need to use selectors (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Selectors) with `a` elements, specifically the `:visited` selector [11:20:00] then you copypaste the cursor code from above and change it to whatever you want [11:20:41] Uh.. [11:21:11] Can someone just give me the code to do that.. [11:21:20] I kinda gtg soon and don't have to much time [11:21:24] oops, not the visited selector, just the `a` element [11:22:08] with the `:hover` selector [11:22:41] [1/5] ``` [11:22:42] [2/5] a:hover { [11:22:42] [3/5] cursor("Another cursor"), auto; [11:22:42] [4/5] } [11:22:42] [5/5] ``` [11:22:45] something like that [11:22:59] when woukd I put the file? [11:23:32] oh nvm [11:27:06] so uh, my mouse curser just reset back to nornam? [11:27:19] nvm [11:27:25] It's working fine [11:27:38] I'll just need the feedback with our wiki's community for size [11:27:43] currently on 25x25 [11:29:44] You really should read https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/Getting_started_with_the_web/CSS_basics if you want to be an effective wiki admin, just a friendly tip. It will also make it much easier to help you here if you learn some of the basics. [11:31:40] We can't provide every bit of code for you. You really need to read the documentation, and understand what you're going to do. It's how we all learn to design our wiki's. [11:38:08] and it's not Miraheze exclusive [11:38:34] back in the days Wikia/Fandom was much more customizable, and that's when and where I learned these things [11:39:05] not even talking about independent wikis [11:39:47] And in editor, not visual editor [11:39:54] Yeah, HTML + CSS are extremely valuable skills if you want to get into site administration. Javascript is also nice. [11:41:21] And make notes for yourself. So you remember it next time. Save the link with documentations to what you have installed, in case you need to make changes. [11:58:41] [1/2] it might not be :ThinkerMH: [11:58:41] [2/2] in any case, some of the settings that you might want to modify are located on your wiki’s ManageWiki Special page [11:59:35] it is actually, if you know how to work with Git and understand our way of doing config [12:00:04] repo is at [[github:miraheze/mw-config]], and I'm in the process of documenting it at [[Tech:Mw-config]] [12:00:04] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Mw-config [12:00:05] [1/2] [12:00:06] [2/2] [12:00:36] interesting [12:08:20] What he said ↑ [12:46:47] How/can I setup wiki logs using the bot on a discord server? [12:56:56] [1/2] Assuming you mean a feed like the one in #global-wiki-feed (just for your own wiki only ofc). You need to go to your own discord server, go to your "Server Settings" -> Integrations -> Webhooks. Click New Webhook, give it a name and what channel to post the feed in, and then click the "Copy webhook URL" [12:56:57] [2/2] Then you go to your wiki go to "Manage this wiki's additional settings" -> Notifications tab, and paste that URL you copied into the "Discord Additional Incoming Webhook URLs ($wgDiscordAdditionalIncomingWebhookUrls)" text field (further settings below it to customize what it will actually send etc.) [13:32:34] Thanks [13:56:05] [1/2] Anyone here ever use User:Daduxing/familytree.js before? I grabbed the script and set it to load on MediaWiki:Common.js, but I'm not seeing any options for it on my toolbar. Apparently it's supposed to appear as shown in the image. [13:56:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210948264644317294/Familytree.js_tool.png?ex=65ec6a74&is=65d9f574&hm=42f50f60ec03c9af77e170ea46d0a99b59ee9c192f524b064f799e7d9f64ac9a& [13:57:49] @sailworldbuilds can you link us to your wiki? [13:59:28] sorry, meant to say where the script is [13:59:33] [1/3] Certainly, here: [13:59:33] [2/3] Here's the script: https://salotum.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Sail/familytree.js [13:59:34] [3/3] And the MediaWiki:Common.js: https://salotum.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [14:00:16] And the Wiki page for the OG script: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daduxing/familytree.js [14:08:10] Well, to begin with, the script never calls the `update_menu` function, which is the one in charge of updating the sidebar [14:09:54] this is because of the `if (document.editform)` @L979, which is undefined, and therefore not true, so the script never actually runs. [14:11:52] that property is also undefined on Wikipedia, so it seems to also be broken there [14:16:26] @sailworldbuilds The script is broken and needs to be updated for modern MediaWiki [14:16:32] it is also broken on Wikipedia, confirmed [14:16:54] since it mentions Internet Explorer working better than Firefox it is not all that surprising [14:22:46] [1/3] @sailworldbuilds You might want to check your Main Page. [14:22:46] [2/3] The box is overlapping the bottom box [14:22:47] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210954981893607464/image.png?ex=65ec70b6&is=65d9fbb6&hm=6137d97efbccb88a1c6b482ccfe39348aff83cb35e5761f9aaab33b4c6740d38& [14:26:42] wait, it is not broken [14:37:28] well, it is but in a different part [14:38:21] [1/9] it is calling an undefined function called `addPortletLink`: ``` [14:38:21] [2/9] jQuery.Deferred exception: addPortletLink is not defined [14:38:21] [3/9] update_menu@https://salotum.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sail/familytree.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:84:9 [14:38:21] [4/9] @https://salotum.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sail/familytree.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:987:25 [14:38:22] [5/9] mightThrow@https://salotum.miraheze.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.CodeMirror%2CCookieWarning%2CDarkMode%2CMsUpload%2CTemplateWizard%2CeventLogging%2Cpopups%2Cpurge%7Cext.CodeMirror.WikiEditor%7Cext.centralNotice.geoIP%7Cext.centralauth.ForeignApi%7Cext.centralauth.centralautologin.clearcookie%7Cext.checkUser.clientHints%7Cext.cite.wikiEditor%7Cext.echo.api%2Cinit%7Cext.mode [14:38:22] [6/9] ration.ajaxhook%2Cnotify%2Cve%7Cext.moderation.notify.desktop%7Cext.urlShortener.toolbar%7Cjquery%2Cmoment%2Coojs%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows%7Cjquery.client%2Ccookie%2ClengthLimit%2CmakeCollapsible%2CtextSelection%2Cui%7Cjquery.makeCollapsible.styles%7Cmediawiki.ForeignApi%2CString%2CTitle%2CUri%2Capi%2Cbase%2Ccldr%2CconfirmCloseWindow% [14:38:22] [7/9] 2Ccoo… [14:38:23] [8/9] undefined load.php:219:554 [14:38:23] [9/9] ``` [14:39:55] so the script works, but the function in charge of adding the button you see in the picture doesn't exist [14:42:42] A way to fix this is to use the `ModifySidebar` function from one of my scripts at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:OrangeStar/customsidebar.js [14:42:52] which is a copypaste from mediawiki.org [16:05:58] I might make the last hour of the scheduled meet [16:31:01] if you can, would love [16:36:23] [1/3] Thank you very much for investigating! [16:36:23] [2/3] So, from my understanding, I should create and copy over [User:OrangeStar/customsidebar.js](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:OrangeStar/customsidebar.js) to my Wiki (ss User:OrangeStar/customsidebar.js), then replace the function `addPortletLink` with `ModifySidebar` on User:Sail/familytree.js. [16:36:23] [3/3] Afterwards, I assume I can just paste `importScript("User:OrangeStar/customsidebar.js")` before `importScript("User:Sail/familytree.js")` on the MediaWiki:Common.js? [16:38:36] Ah yeah, Main Page has been like that for awhile; it's on the to-do list. It was a rush job I did to just give my less technically-inclined friends something to click on while we build pages and categories. [16:42:10] Are there others who have an Error 500? [16:51:08] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11899 See https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1210988748318187530 [16:52:11] (almost 11900) [16:52:49] T11894 on Phabricator is spam, can someone close it? [16:53:14] Odd, It is working here [16:53:54] having issues uploading [16:54:06] 3 users now [16:54:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1210993174613327922/image.png?ex=65ec9447&is=65da1f47&hm=2880a46eb0cace146779f2ed06a602b7a1a271090570cca1e9851c5c6301db55& [16:54:41] you're the 3rd [16:54:45] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1210988748318187530 [16:54:53] o [16:55:33] What's your wiki's url? [16:56:28] Oh... It's working again at my end [16:56:40] /auth [16:56:43] [1/2] https://oblasia.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [16:56:43] [2/2] & here [16:56:45] mobile sucks [16:56:50] @WikiAuthBot [16:57:02] @WikiAuthBot auth [16:57:32] you have to do /auth [16:58:00] it's working for me now again [16:58:07] Okay [16:58:15] For me too now [16:58:25] I have an outdated client and slash commands don't work [16:59:20] O [17:00:46] @collei_no_last_name https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1197697755028652032 <- You can verify it here [17:01:05] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1197697755028652032/1197700790517768216 [17:01:59] Thanks [17:02:53] Hallo. I suspect that some appearances of the words "import dump" in https://github.com/miraheze/ImportDump/blob/master/i18n/en.json are incorrect. It should probably be something like "import a dump" or "dump importing". [17:04:07] [1/2] And "import dump request" should probably be something like "a request to import a dump". [17:04:08] [2/2] Does it make sense? [17:04:50] Or "import dump request". Or just "import request". [17:07:06] Import request would be good [17:07:32] [1/2] Nope, The problem still persist: [17:07:32] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11899 [17:30:35] It's weird. Just before I had an 500 error, now I could upload one again. It's kinda irregular. [18:04:43] use a newer client then [18:06:02] Aliucord doesn't support newer clients [18:06:10] use vendetta [18:06:13] ??? [18:30:56] Does that work on mobile? [18:31:50] <.labster> [1/2] Is anyone else using unified diffs? [18:31:50] <.labster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211017659118780577/image.png?ex=65ecab15&is=65da3615&hm=8ab4f8a656934ef439b671ce59a261e6f87874e957e4c1374662572fdc4d5a1f& [18:32:20] <.labster> where would I report this monstrosity? [18:32:48] oof [18:32:55] that makes my brain hurt [18:33:30] Don't diffs always look weird? [18:33:52] <.labster> Not that weird, no. Git seems to do much better [18:34:29] yes [18:41:55] <.labster> [1/2] Yeah, git does do better [18:41:56] <.labster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211020199965229206/image.png?ex=65ecad73&is=65da3873&hm=a81eaf33866294ff4087d259909702ef9d00e67c3ac29f95f9e788c7eb5f4f14& [18:47:46] Heya [18:48:35] [1/2] nope, but it used to be mobile frontend exclusive? fandom has it like that in mobile mode at least [18:48:35] [2/2] also additional changes for CSS after an update, yay /s [18:51:37] Is it possible to get Pfp's for users? [18:53:02] SocialProfile extension, but it's outdated and kinda buggy [18:53:06] 😦 [18:53:29] Are sandboxes just in an extention/ [18:53:34] [1/2] Just remove it [18:53:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211023130798202982/image.png?ex=65ecb02e&is=65da3b2e&hm=9d996c5ee09544842410a8ef967315bf4eb2fbd0d9bd2271b33c6ed85f73bf6b& [18:53:44] ? [18:54:03] you'll need additional CSS pokes to make SocialProfile look nice, and that's something I didn't want to do lol [18:54:15] where's uh.. The sandboxes? [18:54:26] no, people just create a `/sandbox` page under user pages [18:54:27] the extension's enabled [18:54:31] ah [18:55:30] I'm awful at source editing [18:55:44] Eg. How do I change the text for a link in source editing? [18:56:20] [url text] [18:56:27] That's it [18:56:34] Easier isn't possible [18:56:55] @theoneandonlylegroom how do you pronounce Miraheze? is the e at the end silent, or is it pronounced MEE-RA-HEE-ZEE? [18:56:59] ```[gvjri Text]``` ? [18:57:19] For pages eg. [18:57:22] and a wiki link: ```[[page|tekst]]``` [18:57:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/page [18:57:27] | [18:57:38] how do I paste them with my keyboard? [18:57:41] (uk) [18:58:06] AltGr+8 and AltGr+9 [18:58:29] Nope.. [18:58:52] do I need Num lock? [18:59:08] ALT+91 and ALT 93 [18:59:10] Idk.. It's not working [18:59:11] Yes [18:59:17] Wait so..? [18:59:26] ALT + 9+1 [18:59:40] Nope [18:59:42] Keep ALT pressed down [19:00:34] dude [19:00:38] it's not working [19:00:52] ‼ [19:00:58] That's what I get if I put that [19:01:50] Hmmm, search online for Ascii codes for UK [19:02:05] Can be different then in Denmark I guess [19:02:35] | [19:02:40] that it? [19:02:53] If So It was Alt 1,2,4 [19:03:06] [19:03:34] yes [19:03:41] Nice [19:03:51] but the visual editor bug is beyond annoying [19:04:03] I need to switch between them but Can't [19:05:17] Use the [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] [19:05:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools [19:05:18] [19:05:57] Those are the pre-set codes that often get used under the edit window [19:06:13] what would I insert there? [19:07:40] [1/2] Check mine: [19:07:40] [2/2] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools [19:07:48] Choose what you want [19:07:56] uh [19:07:57] ok [19:08:50] Nope, Not fixed [19:08:56] How to make a local backup of my wiki? [19:09:43] Bro.. [19:09:50] It's an Edge only problem..? [19:09:59] I can't re-create it on Chrome [19:10:09] Odd.. [19:11:30] Why use Edge??? [19:11:37] Great question [19:11:54] It was the default browser for my pc and I'm too used to it by now to move [19:14:06] I'll look into it [19:14:28] Firefox my beloved [19:14:43] Chrome and Firefox have never disappointed me [19:15:31] [1/2] Although the update of today was a bit ... Meh! [19:15:31] [2/2] Grouping tabbed pages .. [19:16:30] Well Problem half sloved! [19:16:54] but Edge makes it so easy to import data but impossible to export data 😭 [19:19:52] Shit. [19:20:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211029781450072104/image.png?ex=65ecb65f&is=65da415f&hm=36229ef761532b6bcbd3c0d1e0e744a3ade637e505b4ed357381737de9541352& [19:20:05] Problems on Edge and Chrome [19:21:22] [1/2] 🤔 [19:21:22] [2/2] I got similar errors when I enabled the Drafts extension [19:21:29] Hm.. [19:22:02] Hold on a sec.. [19:22:45] Odd.. [19:22:58] Removing the Drafts extension removes the error [19:25:21] Yeah I encountered the same thing a few weeks ago, the extension seems to break stuff for whatever reason [19:25:51] How does the simplest/randomest things sometimes solve the worst issues? [19:28:25] [1/2] What. [19:28:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211031901901553754/image.png?ex=65ecb859&is=65da4359&hm=99944b2f7757ddfee58c47d76a29c68ce6626798a054bbe999fdd7cfe8c7bee8& [19:28:33] I tried uploading a file [19:29:21] I can't upload anything [19:29:23] Help.. [19:30:32] Anyone?! [19:30:58] just try and reload the page [19:31:10] nope [19:31:40] Literally can't upload without the error, [19:31:48] Any file, any web browser [19:32:32] @Site Reliability Engineers [19:35:16] Just want to say thanks to the Miraheze devs and people who help make it possible. This move has vastly improved performance and makes Miraheze a much more usable platform for everyone and a great alternative to FANDOM :) [19:35:46] Honestly couldn't agree more, Our wiki moving has been very smooth as well [19:35:56] Miraheze is a pretty great platform [19:39:11] But yeah, what on earth's happening to my site 😭 [19:40:10] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11899 [19:40:45] It's been an intermitted issue [19:40:58] See: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1210988748318187530 [19:41:24] Please let us know https://forms.gle/YELLL3njSoCUKfbs8 if there's particular volunteers [19:44:24] [1/3] Can someone with translator rights update the jp translation for fundraising? [19:44:24] [2/3] I am definitely not jp-3 but I think ありがとうございます means thanks and should be the translation for special thanks [19:44:24] [3/3] (If anyone knows a better translation let me know) [19:44:46] Special thanks is currently not translated btw [19:48:07] translations are now limited to users w/ Translator role [19:48:32] Special pages can be done on translatewiki [19:48:35] and both users now translating to Ja are native Ja soeakers [19:48:51] [[Meta:Translator]] [19:48:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Translator [19:48:52] [19:50:26] I know this [19:50:48] I'm asking someone who has rights to update the translation if possible [19:51:47] But if they're both native speakers would it be okay to ask them to translate the rest of the page because only 4% of the page is translated [19:52:27] well tbh I stopped stranslating fundraiser to Russian when I realized it's ending soon lol [19:52:36] Oh I see [19:53:05] won't be brought up again till next year + probably gonna have different text [19:53:44] fair [19:56:16] i'm also having the same issue [20:00:24] [1/2] We're aware: [20:00:24] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11899 [20:00:45] if it helps it's only with one (admittedly quite big) page, the others seem to be fine [20:01:32] Ah... There is a limit on file upload. [20:03:14] Hm? [20:03:21] So is this a global issue? [20:03:40] it's not a file upload dw, i'm just adding some text [20:04:54] How big has the page become? [20:05:29] https://dodgefulartist.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Drivers_(Dodgeful_Artist) this is the page in question [20:05:38] definitely the biggest individual one on my wiki [20:05:44] Make a big page on testwiki and try editing it and then you can know [20:10:33] As far as I can see, the page isn't that big, but the amount of flags are loaded separately crave a lot of bandwith [20:11:08] Yes it is, just about every single special character is on a different key for danish keyboards (most keyboard layouts don't even have an Alt Gr key, just 2 normal alts [20:12:21] Okay. Didn't know, haven't left this country in 20 years or so 😄 [20:13:18] Hm? [20:13:42] So this issue is cause someone made a massive page? or a oage that has a lot of tasks for the web to register? [20:14:10] 179,841 bytes? That's pretty large [20:14:42] I mean Fandom was able to handle a 1 Million byte page before no issues at all but well it's fandom, they're massive [20:15:08] What issue? [20:16:13] There have been Internal Errors 500 throughout the last 6 hours [20:16:19] few but still [20:16:21] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11899 [20:16:30] [1/2] Like I said on Phab: [20:16:30] [2/2] This is likely a global issue and may correlate with page size and/or files embedded on the page [20:16:50] that'd be silly [20:16:53] it's just Varnish [20:17:05] someone needs to clear up space on cp36/37 [20:17:38] It's not about image uploads though [20:17:40] I am struggling to authenticate as a first time visitor to miraheze discord, can someone tell me if my authorisation has worked. I get an error E004 each time I have tried to follow the link. [20:17:49] And it's only seeming to happen on specific pages [20:17:52] In some wikis only [20:18:04] Which bot are you using? [20:18:18] Nappy is an old man so [20:18:18] It happens any time Varnish is told to invalidate the cache, yeah [20:18:36] The one who ersponded to / auth >>> WikiAuthBot [20:18:40] Hm [20:18:42] Oh I see [20:18:45] Try #verify [20:19:26] So agent when we replacing WikiNappy [20:19:34] #verify https://cholecalciferol.miraheze.org/wiki/User:KalleMP [20:20:10] #verify [20:20:17] ..no [20:20:19] The channel [20:20:21] It’s not a command [20:20:39] Oh it’s clogged up [20:20:41] Here https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1197697755028652032/1197700790517768216 [20:21:53] I could not type on the channel like I can here. [20:22:04] You don’t type [20:22:19] How long might this be for? [20:22:23] At the top of the channel there’s a bot message [20:22:24] Click the button [20:22:42] I linked the message [20:29:05] [1/11] Went back, had a look, clicked the button, new message appeared after last message with new button, clicked that , openned a new page from Wiki-Bot, two big buttons, Login=forget account Invite Wiki-bot=unexplained. Should I be clicking one of those buttons. Also openned the https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:OAuth/authenticate which provides the same messages as WikiAuthBod di [20:29:05] [2/11] d earlier [20:29:05] [3/11] Hi KalleMP, [20:29:06] [4/11] In order to complete your request, WikiAuthBot needs permission to access information on all projects of this site on your behalf. No changes will be made with your account. [20:29:06] [5/11] Hi KalleMP, [20:29:06] [6/11] In order to complete your request, WikiAuthBot needs permission to access information on all projects of this site on your behalf. No changes will be made with your account. [20:29:07] [7/11] Sorry, something went wrong connecting this application. Go back and try to connect your account again, or contact the application author. [20:29:07] [8/11] OAuth token not found, E004 [20:29:07] [9/11] Allows usage of OAuth 1.0a and OAuth 2.0 for API authorization [20:29:08] [10/11] You have chosen not to allow "WikiAuthBot" to access your account. "WikiAuthBot" will not work unless you allow it access. You can go back to "WikiAuthBot" or manage your connected apps. [20:29:08] [11/11] Return to Miraheze. [20:29:24] Well seems it worked [20:30:30] You see some change in my status? Can I confirm it. I feel like a real noob whenever I visit Discord, it is so different to any other platforms I use. [20:30:43] You see how your name changed color? [20:30:58] That’s because your account now has the verified role [20:31:09] Also if you click On your username you’ll see [20:31:49] you got the role [20:32:20] I did not notice, I will defer to your observational skills. Thank you, Right it says verified on the user pop-up. Thank you. Will this persist or do I have to do this again when returning to discord? [20:32:55] Discord isn’t like IRC, it’s more persistent [20:33:11] So your roles should only reset if you leave and rejoin the server [20:33:32] Oops I made mistake. I meant as to why the background doesn't cover the white bit. [20:35:49] [1/2] the white thing is a separate element, for some reason, you can make it transparent [20:35:49] [2/2] lemme find a snippet [20:36:16] [1/2] I have a question that relates to my poor memory. If I leave my wiki unedited for 60 days it tries to mothball it and I have to go and locate a flag, get reminded to put in a reason and remember to press save changes to wake up the wiki again. I remember then first starting out 2-3 years ago there was some magic I could do to request the wiki does not expire. Can anyone direct me [20:36:17] [2/2] on what the steps need to be. I have a niggling feeling there was yet another platform I needed to join to leave a message for special tech stewards or sumting. [20:38:32] You can file a Dormancy Policy exemption request at [[Steward requests]] [20:38:32] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests [20:38:32] [20:40:25] Can anyone just speak in #meetings ? [20:40:32] Yeah [20:40:35] It’s a community meeting [20:40:43] Interesting [20:48:58] Ngl my biggest gripe with mediawiki as a software is it's lack of a good forum. If it wasn't for that I'd enthusiastically use it for my own community. But communication is just as important as content and RTCs like discord just don't cut it [20:50:01] There are some extensions that add it [20:50:28] I'm planning on making an extension that replicates Fandom's Discussions [20:51:45] [1/3] `#mw-page-base { [20:51:45] [2/3] background-color: transparent; [20:51:46] [3/3] background-image: none; }` [20:53:26] [1/4] ```#mw-page-base { [20:53:26] [2/4] background: none; [20:53:26] [3/4] }``` [20:53:26] [4/4] is better [20:54:52] lol yeah [20:57:56] Wikiforum is dead. DPLforum is nice but still very crude. Probably the best discussion tool is structured discussions. I do wonder if with someone could do some trickery to make structured discussion emulate a forum... beyond my ability though. [20:58:25] Structured discussions is awful from a technical perspective [20:58:33] And will probably eventually get undeployed [20:59:07] I've made a sort of bootleg forum w/ DiscussionTools, custom namespace and templates [20:59:48] I tried w/ StructuredDiscussions first tho, and it was kinda bad [21:00:29] created several additional technical pages and users and weird behavior for example when you delete a reply [21:00:42] Redlinks are not currently showing on Meta. [21:01:20] not quite, what I mean is we need to rewrite that part of the script to use the ModifySidebar function from that script (copypasted into the new script, no need to copy my sidebar script). [21:02:54] What you mean [21:04:07] Typed up my "Dormancy Policy exemption request" at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests#Requests_for_(un)(b)locks and now it wants a text captcha but offer no challenge, My browser is not that old and capchas work elsewhere usually with a checkbox or a picture puzzle. [21:05:13] @sailworldbuilds Make a #support thread when you can, we can try to work towards making that script work in modern MW [21:05:32] Don't use external links [21:06:10] Right, will see how to format the links to my wiki. [21:06:36] [[mw:Links]] [21:06:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Links [21:06:37] [21:06:50] anyone else got server 500'd [21:08:17] [[mh:subdomain]] [21:08:17] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/subdomain [21:08:18] [21:08:25] What you doing [21:08:40] Sent an edit to SN [21:09:04] Try again? [21:09:07] yep [21:09:26] tried about thrice so far [21:10:22] Hmm [21:10:34] Try a #support thread and ping stewards [21:11:27] gotcha [21:12:31] How much longer if this bug gonna be? 😭 [21:14:58] Seems to have worked. Thank you kind internet strangers for your help. Time for a nap. [21:15:54] Look at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&translations=filter&limit=50&days=7&enhanced=1&urlversion=2, and you will see that the redlinked user page links are shown unlinked. [21:19:36] Can't reproduce [21:20:07] [1/2] Sorry, I'm back. There was another question I was hopnig to get and answer to. It is what sent me to my miraheze page in the first place. [21:20:07] [2/2] Mastodon will verify users slightly if they can add a rel="me" tag to a back link. Do you know if it is possible to do such a thing on miraheze? [21:20:22] yes, with the RealMe extension [21:20:27] it should be on ManageWiki [21:20:44] docs are at [[mw:Extension:RealMe]] for help on how to set it up [21:20:44] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RealMe [21:20:45] [21:24:26] After logging in, I see that redlinks appear normally. So, the redlinks are only unlinked when one is logged out. [21:31:10] Me neither [21:31:30] I can [21:31:57] [1/2] Does anyone know how many people this is effecting and if it effects actions other than editing? [21:31:57] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11891 [21:32:18] [1/2] everyone without an userpage looks like this [21:32:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211063075055341619/discord.png?ex=65ecd561&is=65da6061&hm=17d4652dd0c40dcab6b9d113e21738232a3119d13a7264885da8e5520df064be& [21:32:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211063078670565386/image.png?ex=65ecd562&is=65da6062&hm=aa795e4f505ffbefa07f431108b7c24a03b0342ae0ddf52a5f2e023f314e4c95& [21:32:23] Yeah indeed [21:34:40] it's hide red links extension? [21:34:58] I use it one my wiki and it supposed to supress red links only for anons [21:35:13] this is on Meta [21:35:17] so that can't be [21:35:30] but noticed resently it does for me logged in too [21:35:34] randomly [21:35:58] I just noticed it this morning, but kinda just smh and ignored it because whatever [21:37:38] [1/2] that some funky HTML [21:37:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211064417706573844/image.png?ex=65ecd6a1&is=65da61a1&hm=0ba76279f29f88794893f163f6cb13df89e1b1f003873e6c801b45a5e59580c3& [21:37:58] an `` element without href attribute [21:38:17] that's a new one for me [21:45:08] def hide red links extension [21:45:13] is it enabled on meta? [21:45:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211066370943484004/2024-02-25_00_44_56.png?ex=65ecd873&is=65da6373&hm=142b25602dc2a5585e54c0b2221dd912ccf44c2dca4a280ab32544933ff825e1& [21:45:41] [1/3] logged in vs incognito [21:45:41] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211066445275070524/2024-02-25_00_36_37.png?ex=65ecd885&is=65da6385&hm=7514931eec581cc4ef7335586ce6c6a4db4acdd5c4dd4bff8909f80fa8011360& [21:45:42] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211066445492912169/2024-02-25_00_36_47.png?ex=65ecd885&is=65da6385&hm=b9451b2381b198bde4c6650bc0f30f900875e72e502f7c2bbbe362f9593144ed& [21:45:46] It is! [21:45:55] But since when :ThinkingHardMH: [21:46:03] hmmm [21:46:07] my guess something borked after 1.41 [21:46:23] it was fixed by Rhinos in github st some point too [21:46:32] I forgot what was the issue exactly [21:48:45] Me? [21:49:44] _death stares @agentisai_ [21:50:10] Since this morning [21:50:23] nah, I had it before [21:50:29] Removeredlinks should have been notified to the community [21:50:32] the bug for logged in I mean [21:50:40] Before being turned on for meta [21:51:33] [1/2] found [21:51:34] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1150181223130472539 [21:52:22] Oh [21:52:40] So the extension doesn't even work properly cause it doesn't split cache [21:52:47] @Stewards: can we please revert [21:53:44] Or @zppix [21:53:58] again, I noticed the bug recently [21:54:05] but wasn't sure [21:54:06] _hits @agentisai round the head with a large whale_ [21:54:20] Ye the extension is broken anyway [21:54:28] But I disagree with it being on anyway [21:54:33] they should stay red for logged in users [21:54:43] I'm logged out btw [21:54:54] :squint: [21:54:55] It's not an uncontroversial change and therefore it shouldn't of being changed without consensus [21:55:25] It's a fairly large behavioural change that doesn't work [21:57:48] Disabled [21:59:31] free :trout: [22:05:24] @orduin can you purge meta's parser cache too? [22:06:48] I've seen that before [22:07:14] Should stop happening if you purge pages [22:07:20] and on RC [22:07:44] I had submitted a PR to their repo to fix this and it worked when I tested it on my machine [22:08:04] Maybe you need to update the extension [22:08:12] The fix was around 1 year ago [22:08:23] Link to your PR? [22:09:16] How Do I get the thing where links present the small preview box? [22:10:20] You mean that when you hover on a link it should open that little pop up box? [22:10:28] Yep [22:10:38] Isn’t that enabled by default? [22:10:45] Nope [22:10:53] [1/2] My GitHub account got nuked because they thought I was a spambot but here's the commit [22:10:53] [2/2] https://github.com/marohh/mediawikiRemoveRedlinks/commit/20755d4b07496f5f437b75bdb58edf90e60cec41 [22:11:16] Also, what do you think of white and light grey for a wiki theme vs dark grey, semi see though w/ background and curved edges? [22:11:59] I'm not sure it fixed it [22:12:22] Oh I see [22:12:26] [1/2] This commit broke it [22:12:27] [2/2] https://github.com/marohh/mediawikiRemoveRedlinks/commit/08dce0000a21cbbd05aff9961da56d174e3a02a9 [22:12:44] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Previews [22:12:50] thanks [22:14:50] [1/2] Been looking around for some solutions or suggestions on my own but I still don't have an answer to this question, so: regarding this task on phabricator, am I able to edit my wiki at all? The vast majority of my wiki's edits are still totally missing and I can't tell if I just need to rewrite everything from the ground up, ie all my edit history is permanently lost, or if it can po [22:14:51] [2/2] tentially be restored. If it can be restored, will any edits I make now be lost if my old content is brought back? https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11822 [22:19:50] [1/2] There's a large queue of unreviewed wiki requests, would someone like to review them? [22:19:50] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue [22:19:50] @Site Reliability Engineers: missing edits shouldn't be an open task for 7 weeks [22:21:28] I guess there is quite the market for a new wc or 2 [22:21:44] We have backups. I apologise for the delays in looking at your task. I am going to copy @cosmicalpha in as DSRE explicitly to prioritise that. It should be UBN quite frankly. [22:22:00] never too late to open a RfP, you know 😉 [22:22:04] pls rfp [22:22:15] screw it I'm nominating raidette [22:22:35] Talk to @raidarr first please [22:22:41] /joke lol [22:22:46] unless he wants it? [22:22:55] he's said before that he hasn't [22:22:58] but idk [22:23:02] jk jk, unless...? [22:23:04] if someone like deem nominates me maybe [22:23:10] otherwise rather not [22:23:15] yikes [22:23:40] why does the nominator even matter anyway? [22:23:50] if you want to do it, it doesn't matter [22:23:51] it's an admittedly arbitrary personal bar [22:23:56] I'm not sure I want to [22:24:25] Thanks. I'm not really sure what the etiquette here for asking about issues is frequency-wise but I would rather my wiki not get erroneously closed again 😭 [22:24:26] but I'd be willing to with a certain level of interest, provided that it's clear I am not and will not be the same as the old me [22:24:53] I know I'll have a certain degree of support but the rest is murky enough that I don't want to have that fuss [22:25:15] yeah I know what you talking about [22:25:46] beyond that I am very, very weary of my cycle from last time where I put a not trivial amount of time and even dropped a rather chunky donation, only for the outcome that came of it - which ultimately may be for the better of miraheze, but was personally quite taxing [22:26:54] and in those days part of my entire pitch was that I was kinda the only one who would do the sort of things I did while now there is a healthier, if still needy wc pool, and far better steward support than ever existed, so someone with my potential for cruder behavior should not be the first choice [22:29:30] Should I change https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11891 to unbreak now? [22:39:51] does having a wiki on private mess with the visibility of images? or is something up w/ the cdn rn [22:43:28] Probably something with Miraheze [22:43:40] What issue are you having exactly? [22:44:00] wiki is set to private while we do some restructuring, images are gradually disappearing lol [22:44:27] Oh idk [22:47:23] I've done it [22:47:34] Kk [22:55:18] [1/2] А как сделать так, чтоб была отредактировал(а), а не отредактировала [22:55:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211083964169846864/2024-02-25_01.48.12.png?ex=65ece8d5&is=65da73d5&hm=168cf74535d4eba514e40d31f7170c88e5fded478161b2908b3dd7d1cc74a8e3& [23:11:27] I want links to pages that don't exist to be red like they where, I have some CSS that makes cool custom links but as a result all links even to pages that don't exist are the same colour [23:11:47] Use .new [23:12:06] Hm? [23:12:15] [1/23] ```/ Links / [23:12:16] [2/23] / Normal / [23:12:16] [3/23] a { [23:12:16] [4/23] color: gold !important; } [23:12:17] [5/23] a:visited { [23:12:17] [6/23] color: gold !important; } [23:12:17] [7/23] a:hover { [23:12:18] [8/23] color: gold !important; [23:12:18] [9/23] text-decoration: none; [23:12:18] [10/23] text-shadow: 2px 2px 5px black; } [23:12:18] [11/23] / Red / [23:12:19] [12/23] a.new { [23:12:19] [13/23] color: gold !important; } [23:12:20] [14/23] a.new:visited { [23:12:20] [15/23] color: gold !important; } [23:12:21] [16/23] / External interwiki and web links (affects long Special: links too) / [23:12:21] [17/23] a.extiw, a.external { [23:12:22] [18/23] color: gold !important; / Different color / [23:12:22] [19/23] background-image: none !important; / Removes icon / [23:12:23] [20/23] padding-right: 0 !important; } [23:12:23] [21/23] body #mw-content-text { [23:12:24] [22/23] color: white; [23:12:24] [23/23] }``` (The links code) [23:17:15] The problem is that a.new is also gold. I'm currently wrangling the css myself and I solved it by simply colorpicking the red and added it to .new [23:17:27] Ah [23:17:34] So change the gold next to .new to red? [23:18:07] yes [23:19:32] alr nice [23:23:55] Odd.. [23:24:12] dosen't seem to be working.. I refreshed rhe cashe, it's been quite a while [23:24:20] Oh nvm [23:47:09] Has anyone found a solution to people receieving the 500 Internal Server Error message everytime they attempt to upload images? [23:50:56] [1/2] Not yet. You can follow it here: [23:50:56] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11891 [23:54:37] upload server down ? [23:55:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1211099035134337024/image.png?ex=65ecf6df&is=65da81df&hm=70e5c88a243c558a54b5bc7131a9c843cdec853e11354e8fe2f2eedf62518455& [23:58:50] Has been for awhile, we tried uploading like two hours ago and had the 500 error