/div` between an image but it doesn't seem to do anything 🤔 [05:00:39] <.labster, replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> I do have a bit of a hex converter in my head and that's a lot of gray [05:38:42] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/02/eff-statement-nevadas-attack-end-end-encryption [06:08:31] kids dont need privacy anyway [06:25:17] erm what the scallop [06:30:25] "the land of the free" [06:37:58] freedom to have your messages read [06:39:11] indeed [06:40:01] wrong channel but I almost forgot what is privacy [06:42:38] nothing to hide ; nothing to fear [06:57:21] [1/2] @justleafy2003 you were asking about WHAM from Fandom so here, I ported it to Miraheze [06:57:21] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/WHAM [06:57:32] [1/2] Code: [06:57:32] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Collei/wham.js [06:57:32] Ok thx [06:57:35] Np [07:29:37] [1/2] What’s Vector 2023? [07:29:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212300559487475763/IMG_1180.png?ex=65f155e0&is=65dee0e0&hm=1fe443ee988f16673700d037046fc72e3e84954a1d682c16cf2ffdc347169d2e& [07:31:46] [1/2] How can I get an image to align up against an infobox? When I align it right it goes underneat the infobox [07:31:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212301100649287710/image.png?ex=65f15661&is=65dee161&hm=de60ff51d6516a6ab5a0ce9967e123a94d793a4e2745d4fe1ef4c774cb88a9e1& [07:33:23] new vector [07:34:16] You know the default Vector look that every wiki has [07:34:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector/2022 [07:34:35] Ig it's 2022 not 2023 [07:34:37] Same thing tho [07:36:38] Yeah that’s why I noticed something was off [07:36:41] I’ll edit the dev page [08:12:32] How long will take the review? [08:14:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41597#mw-section-request [08:15:03] volunteers avaliablity [08:15:47] ok [08:16:55] I’m not sure where I’m supposed to say this, but on https://miraheze.org/, under “Ad-free,” it links to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Advertisements which does not exist. [08:20:14] It might not been in our "checklist" right now, and as usual, we offers no ads [08:20:36] and btw, how can I spawn WHAM in my wiki? [08:22:01] ah nevermind, it was supposed to be used on users lol [08:32:43] [1/2] Yeah but someone should fix the link. [08:32:43] [2/2] Maybe to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don't_you_display_ads? [09:51:52] Guten morgen, Goede morgen, God morgen, Good morning, .... [09:53:10] Nice one!! [10:49:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41597#mw-section-request [10:50:25] someone can approval this, I don't mind if is @rodejong or @theoneandonlylegroom [10:50:38] @MediaWiki Trusted Support Volunteers [10:50:40] dude [10:50:45] Neither of them are wiki creators, so they can't approve it [10:51:00] as pisces said [10:51:09] A WC will eventually get to it, don't worry [10:51:49] yeah, we are like help people w/ how to wiki, we are not creating wikis [10:51:57] also common man [10:52:10] look at my nick [10:52:19] and you just ping me [10:52:20] In the Dragonvision Wiki didn't take so long, like this, it's getting eternal. [10:52:47] understand? [10:53:25] I do well, refresh the page on hope if it get approved [10:53:38] patience is a virtue [10:53:40] you filed the wiki request today [10:58:08] yup [10:59:14] I'm so excited to an MicroWiki for furry mockgovs and micronations, that it's difficult to held the patience, sorry [10:59:28] You need to be patient. It will be reviewed as soon as possible. We are all volunteers, spending our time helping people, but we also have our regular jobs and personal life 😉 [11:29:22] [1/2] Also for reference you filed it during the night in Europe, which I believe a good amount of the people who can approve wiki's are from. [11:29:22] [2/2] And everyone at Miraheze are volunteers, they do this stuff in their spare time, and as such no guarantees can be made as for how long things takes (though in most cases things does get done quick) [12:25:10] consistently bringing it up at many hours can frankly have the opposite effect [12:25:21] [1/2] Impatience doesn't help anyone's case. It just makes the other people get annoyed and not want to help you. Some will even delay helping you if you're impatient (not to say that they do that here). [12:25:21] [2/2] Let people breathe, they're doing all this within the spare time they have. They could be doing things way more enjoyable than reviewing wiki requests, and it certainly doesn't help when you get impatient folks pressuring them. [12:25:47] right now volunteers for wiki creation are actually quite sparse; the most active ones are in a bit of an off period, the others are not very regular, there's actually two pending requests for new creators which may help response time as it's been a bit too stretched out recently [12:25:53] a day + is unusual [12:26:24] now from my perspective the original request was too vague and would have been declined outright for more clarity, I see you've updated it [12:27:53] [1/2] calling it wikipedia but for x might be a red flag that gets it further questions, although I do think the overall focus is probably adequate to keep it topical. You might see moderation questions which would be reasonable given you will inevitably meet judgemental people who will do anything from troll to vandalize and make threats, so even if you don't have explicit policy you shou [12:27:53] [2/2] ld have some idea to handle that if the issue comes [12:28:34] Oh yeah, moderating that wiki sounds like a lot of fun /s :') [12:29:22] linking your reddit bits might help for a reviewer to get an idea of the sort of content involved [12:30:02] if it's going to involve nsfw content you may want to think of dedicated content warnings though that doesn't seem like a thing that would be the main focus [12:31:30] twitter and/or reddit I should say as I see you have an open presence on both and they don't strike me as too concerning upfront [12:32:15] This is very good advice @darrellx [12:34:45] oh ok [12:36:22] Also, 8 comments with "How the review will long take?" are unhelpful and will have zero effect on how long it will take for your request to be reviewed. [12:36:58] if what I said sounds reasonable to you, then you may wish to further update the request with bits of ^ or if you want I can offer the links outright and you can edit the form to include a link to this message. Chances are the reviewer will be able to visit the convo that way although doing that would be a bit unusual [12:44:59] https://www.reddit.com/r/furrymicronations/ [12:45:04] like this? [12:45:13] Add that to your request [12:47:18] [1/3] Wiki for furry micronations and furry micronations organisations ran by Generalitat Draganiana, which is like a furry wikipedia but for furry micronations and furry micronations. Aimed for worldbuilding and micronationalists. In this wiki can be added also mockgovs, it's likely Wikipedia but for furry micronations and furry micronations. Every furry nation can have it's own entry. [12:47:18] [2/3] https://www.reddit.com/r/furrymicronations/ [12:47:19] [3/3] https://twitter.com/furrnationsgdr [12:47:54] that's what I included [12:48:55] @redmin0 is a WC? [12:50:30] Stop pinging people to respond to your request [12:50:39] https://tenor.com/view/patience-young-grasshopper-gif-10391979 [12:51:31] redmin is one of the more intermittently available wcs [12:51:51] and I think I mentioned the more available ones are plain busy with life at the moment [12:58:43] Can I apply for a WC? [13:00:42] most people can [13:00:51] if you should depends [13:03:21] I think you should expect heavy scenario questions but would probably stand a chance if you handle them well [13:04:14] I can be trusted to hold the power of life and death over Wiki creation and not abuse it [13:04:25] [I cannot] [13:04:42] someone's gotta be our dark horse [13:04:50] I think people need to prove their standing first [13:05:07] the big thing that wiki creation hinges on is judgement [13:05:10] Blame it on Sail 😄 [13:05:23] Indeed [13:05:44] pisces has been around long enough that he's not just popping in out of nowhere but his ability to exercise judgement has little data to draw on for most to have an impression [13:05:51] hence it is questions that would be the make or break for him [13:05:59] And not be afraid to ask others when in doubt [13:06:04] Just blame every Wiki rejection on me; I will own it. 🫡 [13:06:10] communication is essential ye [13:06:27] there tends to be more fuss on approvals gone wrong tbh [13:07:16] the antichrist of wiki creation will not be found in death to hopes and dreams, but the birth of a new evil, like... idk thumbing approve for a reception wiki [13:14:36] you guys say so, may I free to open a election? [13:15:41] [1/5] no permissions required [13:15:41] [2/5] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions [13:15:42] [3/5] Do take a glance over this if you have not, which includes requirements for opening the election [13:15:42] [4/5] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Wiki_creators [13:15:42] [5/5] but I see no concerns there [13:18:14] and of course familiarizing yourself with [[Content Policy]] in detail is key, I'd also look over the open RfC for content policy addendums especially the ones with a strong support ratio [13:18:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [13:18:15]

[13:18:20] [1/2] I'm not suuure, but maybe `clear` on infobox can help [13:18:21] [2/2] but personally, I'd say is better to keep image on left side, otherwise it feels unbalanced [13:31:37] @songngu.xyz I hope a rationale is coming very shortly because a request without a supporting case will not go well [13:31:55] I know, I just put my reason in the wrong place [13:32:15] fair enough [13:34:14] fixed. [13:34:23] sparse but adequate [13:34:46] to give it early backup you could perhaps draw on the questions given to OS and offer your thoughts [13:38:09] I see. I would look at them but some with a grain of salt. [13:38:25] some indeed would not be wise to approve [13:38:33] the value is more the thought process that leads you to dismiss them [13:45:11] > "This wiki will have information about the ongoing Russia-Ukraine War. It will allow everyone to edit the wiki however they want without anyone moderating the content so that views of either side are not censored." [14:04:28] [1/2] Not sure why my text wasn't substituted properly (totally missing, but I added it afterwards. [14:04:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212399929801179157/image.png?ex=65f1b26c&is=65df3d6c&hm=a2f07ea837e45e646dbacc630f4ec8e0c22acd86dfdbe0704164e2d3758657ae& [14:05:41] I had been thinking about this for a couple of days already, and the links got me over the bridge 😉 [14:08:35] You actually have to replace the whole `subst` template with the actual reason. I literally just do it like half an hour ago- [14:13:59] @pixeldubs am I a simp for looksmaxing or is ending goated [14:15:40] buddy please stop posting nonsense here [14:15:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212402784524173352/IMG_0182.png?ex=65f1b515&is=65df4015&hm=0eaf5a154bfc613b80b56dc69a4b908b105053f9d2848aba5a020e3487f58dda& [14:19:55] I fixed it manually. 🙂 [14:20:47] Perhaps, this is more suited for Instagram, Facebook or TwitterX. Not in this chat [14:21:04] No silly cat posting? [14:22:02] no silly anything actually 😉 [14:22:41] [1/2] This is a support thread. [14:22:42] [2/2] Otherwise you could use #offtopic [15:00:58] Thanks [15:37:21] Good questions indeed [15:38:59] What I miss [15:39:17] 4 wiki creator requests ongoing [15:39:24] me, UO, rodejong and pisces [15:39:38] Ro? [15:39:40] Dang [15:39:45] A lot can be not what one personally agree with, but what counts is the Content Policy. And there is quite some room in that. Often you have to ask further, what the intention is of the request [15:39:48] Yes ME [15:39:56] I go offline for like 12 hours and we got two more WC elections [15:40:07] Don't have faith in me? [15:40:46] Or are you afraid of me declining everything? 😄 [15:41:36] I’m not sure lmao. It’s not that I don’t have faith it’s just that I’ve never seen you interact much with stuff involving the content policy so I can’t speak to your understanding of it specially [15:42:18] Lol [15:42:32] I wonder what the rate of Accepted:rejected wikis are [15:42:41] We have some data on that [15:42:47] interesting- [15:42:48] [[User:John/wikistats]] [15:42:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:John/wikistats [15:42:49]

[15:43:13] [[User:John/WikiStats]] [15:43:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:John/WikiStats [15:43:15]

[15:43:17] there we go [15:43:39] it is sometimes updated by someone with shell access on the db servers [15:43:44] tip: use 🗑️ on the message you wants WB to delete [15:44:17] only the one requested the link tho [15:46:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Rodejong_(Wiki_creator) [15:47:51] answered the questions here: [15:48:15] Hm [15:48:36] Unironicly I would be VERY weary of Taylor swift wiki [15:48:52] `wiki.surf` is the domain used for UrlShortener, FYI [15:49:22] forgot that existed, nice to see at least someone uses it [15:49:29] Same [15:51:55] If I were a celebrity, I don’t know how I’d feel about a wiki dedicated to everything I’m doing to be honest. [15:52:10] That’s just the internet [15:52:17] Minus the organization [15:52:51] maybe the one requesting the wiki in this fictional scenario just wants to make a wiki about her songs? [15:53:18] Fair [15:53:55] True [15:54:45] For the fictional wiki listed above that, I had to read that multiple times before I comprehended it. [15:55:19] it just a challenges after all [15:55:36] the thing that decide the fates is the people's voices [15:55:48] I think it was a trap for those that don't read the question fully [15:55:56] Clever [15:56:06] [1/2] the big old ones most likely wouldn't care [15:56:06] [2/2] if I was there in the 80s I'd def would be the first to start a site and probably would ported to wiki in mid 2000s lol [15:56:09] I wonder if y’all get requests like that though. [15:56:31] Someone who doesn’t thoroughly read it properly shouldn’t be a WC [15:56:49] First sentence great, second sentence NO [15:56:59] lmao [15:57:08] Probably [15:58:06] [1/2] personally look at this wiki as an example, started in 2006 [15:58:06] [2/2] [16:06:40] We plan to use it way more for useful redirects [16:06:46] miraheze.wiki was too clunky for our liking [16:06:58] I'd also like to eventually offer wiki.surf as a domain you can use [16:07:23] like example.wiki.surf is nicer than example.miraheze.org [16:11:21] Why do the Beach Boys suddenly appear in my head? [16:11:29] heh yeah [16:11:48]