[00:22:27] [1/2] does anyone know how to remove the white background under the image? the original image was transparent [00:22:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212555449681969192/QsiwxnY.png?ex=65f24343&is=65dfce43&hm=4cddfc559609a81b67f75229e814e1e85dc92ec10be079f1ef80af24233579a8& [00:35:25] You'd need an app for that [00:35:58] There are several, and it depends on how you're going to use it, and how many times. [00:36:14] There are simple ones, or more complex ones [00:36:55] Anyone else had problems with the discord connection? [00:40:15] Hm, check https://status.discord.com maybe [00:41:16] Couldn't load that one either for a few minutes [00:41:36] Other sites were reachable, just not the discord ones [00:42:43] Your work's finally onto you and blocked the domain X) /j [00:42:54] But I haven't had any issues myself [00:43:38] lmao [00:44:02] his work is Miraheze!!!! [00:44:29] Funny, but inaccurate as I am a pensioner (due to health) 😄 [00:45:59] [1/2] But I checked https://discordstatus.com/# too, and that didn't load for me either. [00:46:00] [2/2] But it can be a routing issue [00:46:07] oh no :( [00:46:31] discordstatus.com is a redirect to status.discord I think [00:47:00] what app? [00:48:29] :P [00:48:33] Just google for Background removers. And pick one [00:49:01] Just google for Background removers. And pick one [00:49:15] the image was already transparent in the first place [00:49:16] ?????? [00:49:33] Yeah the background doesn't come from the image, it comes from the css. [00:49:47] where do i edit it [00:49:48] [insane](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1205770821704876052.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=insane) [00:53:04] [1/2] Also, a small PSA to people. I don't think any of y'all would do this, but: [00:53:05] [2/2] When filing a wiki request, please do not add "..........!!!!!!!!!" to the end of your wiki request in order to fulfill the 250 character requirement. Pretty self explanatory. [00:53:27] do i look like a idiot if i put bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [00:53:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images#Frame_transparancy [00:53:55] 😂 we've had this requirement in place for a week, I think? it's exhausting to see the number of ways people will do this stuff [00:54:35] ok [00:54:38] Did people actually do that? lol? [00:54:39] thanks [00:55:00] yup....I had a request where the text was: [00:55:09] wheres the template to do it [00:55:09] [1/5] ``` [00:55:10] [2/5] a wiki to try this platform. [00:55:10] [3/5] A wiki to show an example. [00:55:10] [4/5] ......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... [00:55:10] [5/5] ``` [00:55:13] Imagine having such little brain thought that you can't fill a 250 character form [00:55:15] so [00:55:17] yeah [00:55:22] bad english [00:55:24] don't do this [00:55:24] :/ [00:55:44] heh [00:55:54] You can have bad english and still type a lot lol [00:56:05] <.labster, replying to bwm0> What if it's A V A P O R W A V E W I K I ? [00:56:06] might wanna change it so certain characters dont count [00:56:07] Like, at least try [00:56:15] .. [00:56:23] they’d just fill with letters [00:56:32] Ain't no way 💀 [00:56:39] //// [00:56:45] How’s that AI Wiki reviewet going.. [00:56:47] M||I||R||A||H||E||Z||E||I||N||B||I||O [00:57:01] No template, just read what I linked you. [00:57:06] ok [00:57:13] People should add periods, so we can't disqualify it [00:57:22] but perhaps 10+ ... in a row... [00:57:31] Can you just put in a regex to clear out any repeating characters of 4 or more? [00:57:35] i mean from contributing to counts [00:57:42] maybe [00:57:57] trying to think of possible false positives [00:57:59] cc: @notaracham [00:58:06] Can't really think of any [00:58:27] 3 at least covers those who mistype 2 letters like "Spooon" lol But I can't imagine 4 would be used for anything [00:58:45] yeah I don't think anyone is typing spoooon [00:59:16] <.labster> what if the wiki has spoooonsorships? [00:59:30] spooooooooooonsorships [00:59:44] more o's = more 🤑 [00:59:55] i made the page and it didnt work [00:59:59] it didnt apply [01:00:02] even when i put the css in [01:00:22] Did you put the CSS in Common.css? [01:00:44] https://arosi.miraheze.org/wiki/Common.css [01:00:59] Then make sure you're using a thumb for your images [01:01:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212565214571003984/WJ60T6U.png?ex=65f24c5b&is=65dfd75b&hm=df8e2e0986696fd95700e0a7c320b85eec1acf06a4b7edb5b2b28c61598ae30c& [01:02:10] Idk, ask ChatGPT [01:02:20] No! [01:02:26] no [01:02:30] what am i then? [01:02:30] Don’t do that! [01:03:48] :p [01:07:50] How do I make an image smaller on a page without reducing the quality of it? Like if you zoomed in on it, you'd see the full-quality [01:09:16] Use vector images (svg)? [01:09:17] [1/16] That css is probably specific to the case mentioned in that talk page and won't work on your wiki. But you can figure out what you need yourself. [01:09:17] [2/16] Are you familiar with html and css at all? (this message will assume you are at least a little bit, but if you aren't I'm sure people will have useful links lying around :P) [01:09:17] [3/16] First in order to find where the color comes from, you usually use right click > Inspect on the page, then navigate the html code to the corresponding element. Then check if its css has something like ``background-color:#ffffff`` (or another near-white color), and if its parent elements do. [01:09:18] [4/16] In this case, two different elements put a bright background behind the image. [01:09:18] [5/16] Once you find them, you need to add your own css to override them. To do that, you just copy the relevant css, but replace ``#ffffff`` with ``transparent`` or something. In this case, it would be something like (not tested): [01:09:18] [6/16] ```css [01:09:18] [7/16] @media screen { [01:09:19] [8/16] figure[typeof~="mw:File/Thumb"], figure[typeof~="mw:File/Frame"] { [01:09:19] [9/16] background-color: transparent; [01:09:19] [10/16] } [01:09:20] [11/16] } [01:09:20] [12/16] @media screen { [01:09:21] [13/16] figure[typeof~="mw:File/Thumb"] > :not(figcaption) .mw-file-element, figure[typeof~="mw:File/Frame"] > :not(figcaption) .mw-file-element { [01:09:21] [14/16] background: transparent; [01:09:22] [15/16] } [01:09:22] [16/16] }``` [01:09:50] Yeah but that automatically makes my text into Times New Roman when it's supposed to be Prima Sans Bold. [01:09:53] Any other way? [01:10:42] What text? [01:11:14] [1/2] Electoral map [01:11:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212567722144043088/ElectoralCollege1872_Greeley_Wins.png?ex=65f24eb1&is=65dfd9b1&hm=05dfbe0527b52b299ea9a587ea3f143f8a5cafa38391a6aa1be95d7aac7c19ac& [01:14:39] how so [01:15:42] Idk how or why. It's on another site hosted by Miraheze tho so I wonder if its website coding differences [01:19:15] a bit [01:20:18] wow! it didnt work! [01:20:59] No need to be sarcastic. They took the effort to write up like, 3 paragraphs. [01:21:11] ok [01:21:18] sorry if i was rude [01:21:47] I think I saw a request that did that once. [01:21:59] yupp [01:22:05] arosiki [01:22:08] Yep this was the one I saw. [01:22:18] It takes some time for Common.css to apply, when you aren't sure if something is going to work or not you can first try it in your user css (User:Username/common.css). [01:23:50] Hold on... Wait I just realized you put it in ``Common.css`` instead of ``MediaWiki:Common.css``, that's another reason for it not working haha :P [01:24:05] [1/2] uh [01:24:06] [2/2] did the policy on personal wikis change? [01:24:12] Sometimes the CSS takes a bit to apply too(? [01:24:15] Pardon? [01:24:54] [1/2] I requested a personal wiki for my own purposes, but it got declined saying I should use the Public Test Wiki [01:24:55] [2/2] even though I said I would not be using the wiki only for testing purposes [01:25:10] send the link [01:25:12] huh [01:25:20] [01:25:27] I'm guessing they read "test" and their mind went to it being a test wiki [01:25:42] cc @jph2 ^ [01:25:47] https://arosi.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page/Tools/Mockerablade [01:28:03] [1/2] Have you tried this? (One possibility) [01:28:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212571957112086599/image.png?ex=65f252a3&is=65dfdda3&hm=8f6269b806694d891bceb7573a39f1cfa1f85f8670bbb2f088b49fcd16c7fdb3& [01:28:46] i did, still amde no difference [01:30:17] What's your wiki background color? [01:30:35] black [01:31:15] [1/2] I see here that despite them having `background: transparent;`, it still has a colour here. [01:31:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212572763076952074/image.png?ex=65f25363&is=65dfde63&hm=e6ee0f81a9e88e4f83bca5578e0dffab0a67749a8e310786b900a860eea98405& [01:31:40] [1/2] If I manually change it to `transparent`, it works. [01:31:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212572867129253908/image.png?ex=65f2537c&is=65dfde7c&hm=307b31b2e9181ae73f9a0ebcaf1787d63df42ecbb68002cc4e39b2a16ae6b551& [01:31:49] !important may work thp [01:31:51] tho* [01:32:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212572996687102004/ezydutc7rcg31.png?ex=65f2539a&is=65dfde9a&hm=946c59086c4673797662f375d126aa3c29d726ee038dc158ccdb8da50214fe50& [01:33:07] !important would fix it if ``transparent`` was somewhere in the css but I'm not even seeing it yet, you might just need to wait a bit more. [01:34:18] I'm presuming dark mode doesn't have its own CSS overwriting the thumbs in common? [01:37:26] ill try #fff0 [01:38:59] i wish i could understand [01:39:24] In CSS, `!important` makes certain lines take precedent when they otherwise wouldn’t. [01:39:49] It’s less then good practice [01:39:53] It's generally considered bad practice to overuse because one should be organising their CSS properly lol [01:40:05] Checking page info, it seems it's stuck in wikitext content model instead of CSS, probably because it was moved directly from Common.css instead of recreated but I'm wondering if this would be enough to prevent it from working. [01:43:35] If in doubt I would suggest using to fix that. [01:43:51] Would it be CSS or Sanitised CSS? [01:44:42] I'm only seeing CSS in the dropdown list sooooo that answers the question I suppose. [01:50:23] Sometimes you need to make it CSS and then again change it to Sanitized CSS [02:16:54] how do u put a custom background for a wiki [02:25:14] ok i found out [02:25:58] [1/2] Heyy looks like the transparent image background works now [02:25:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212586532330803290/toast.png?ex=65f26036&is=65dfeb36&hm=d10699253bfa7e49c71f7dc16fa62acac027bde892c99d25f844c1e68c84ff3f& [02:26:22] yipee [02:34:15] [1/2] why is the background black [02:34:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212588617894072320/hJb4h1R.png?ex=65f26227&is=65dfed27&hm=de2ae6a3c92c58e8e5b05b4cad2d57ce702757ab78e3a97e7e31784d4a34f0c5& [02:36:44] [1/2] what the [02:36:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212589240152621076/9PDKDL3.png?ex=65f262bb&is=65dfedbb&hm=f9d87faf949e266fb0139d143a0d0fbbb05b7d528ce524ac374854e835270704& [02:38:08] [1/2] help [02:38:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212589595351580692/nTTgKS6.png?ex=65f26310&is=65dfee10&hm=7c84b40717a64bb861e9274dd2c5f265ab00b992dd29a453cd533c1e97aa41ca& [02:38:13] @agentisai stone [02:39:11] [1/2] oh wow [02:39:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212589858921381948/LK9PzRV.png?ex=65f2634f&is=65dfee4f&hm=8a7bbc96b4a8b66788add221d5acc9a81cd5bdad51f1b4c1563f8f4ba38ff996& [02:42:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212590655851728916/image.png?ex=65f2640d&is=65dfef0d&hm=d0681493af0427e0e80af66d9b05d591d4079eefb6add3ef15b46d70a1763e71& [02:42:27] anyone here knows how to do the little flag? [02:43:00] ok it worked [02:51:49] I am trying to submit a wiki request, but I am intending it to be in Korean and English, so which language should I select? [02:52:32] The language doesn't really matter; you can select either [02:52:58] When its created would it be on the language that I have selected? [02:53:53] Yes; you can change your wiki's language anytime after it's created at ManageWiki [02:55:46] Nice, thanks! [03:15:02] Thank you @jph2 for your service as a wiki creator. [03:25:02] I never expected jph2 to quit; I always thought he was doing a good job as a wiki creator, but if he feels otherwise then it's alright [03:25:45] 100%. Loved his presence as a WC and will miss it. [03:33:40] It's a shame. His experience will be missed. [03:45:16] This comes a real shock. Thanks for your service, @jph2. [03:46:18] [1/2] 4:45am I'm off! [03:46:19] [2/2] 💤 [03:46:25] 🛌 [04:01:22] damn, jph resigned? [04:06:29] Please go to sleep earlier [04:06:32] Yes. [04:32:05] The portal navigation template has a next-generation, by the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navigation_header [05:58:34] [1/2] Reading this rn [05:58:35] [2/2] > https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/phame/post/view/19/fsslc_the_actual_next_step_in_miraheze_s_growth/ [05:58:41] > We now had CPUs and RAM that weren't almost old enough to get a driving permit and much, much faster NVMe drives. [05:58:43] LMAO [05:59:13] > "Let's go out with a bang", wait, no, not you db131! [06:04:24] that's exactly what happened [06:09:09] Too soon /j [06:27:21] definitely the best i could see that situation being explained [06:28:32] literally 1984 [08:03:11] Congrats to @bwm0 for becoming or newest moderator [08:08:40] Congrats Brandon [08:10:45] Congrats! [08:14:55] Congratulations! [09:41:53] https://tenor.com/view/motivation-go-support-crush-penguin-gif-11967988773195542434 [09:42:00] @bwm0 [09:57:53] <.fufaj> Hi, I infomred few months ago about some racist-like wiki https://physicalanthropology.miraheze.org/wiki/ and it is removed whic is very good. But randomly I discovered they have still another clone https://modernphenotypes.miraheze.org/wiki/Modern_Phenotypes_Wiki [09:59:08] <.fufaj> They not even pretend to be "scientific" lol [10:01:29] seems like they migrated off fandom [10:02:11] I'm not aware of this, but how is this racist? [10:02:31] They describe human trade [10:02:54] you've reported the previous one on stewards board? [10:03:11] <.fufaj> I think somewhere here [10:03:31] <.fufaj> I made now a request in #suport too [10:04:02] it's better to keep reports on meta wiki rather than just discord but I'll leave to higher up volunteers [10:04:20] I remember now, yeah [10:04:23] it was here [10:04:28] <.fufaj> I am not a Miraheze user, not sure about all stufff and co [10:04:50] was that wiki also fandom/wikia fork? [10:04:56] <.fufaj> also yes [10:05:10] <.fufaj> they are permabanned on one wiki, they migrate elswhere and so on [10:05:42] They copy one on one from http://humanphenotypes.net/ [10:06:46] <.fufaj> yes, which is also a copy without permission probably, regardless of topic [10:07:15] <.fufaj> but this is minor [10:07:19] <.fufaj> problem [10:10:47] <_noshiii_> Hello!!! Is there is any way to port all the wikipedia templates into my wiki? [10:11:33] I don't think you want to do that. [10:11:57] it is but it's a dark road full of dependency errors [10:12:08] But you can export templates from Wikipedia and import them on your wiki [10:12:40] But you are guaranteed to miss other templates, modules, styles.css's etc [10:12:48] we usually advise to import simpler templates from fandom or miraheze wikis, or create from scratch [10:13:00] <_noshiii_, replying to rodejong> Hmnnn I think thats a really good idea!!! Thank youuu [10:13:21] Again... read the other comments [10:13:50] <_noshiii_> i know... 😓 [10:14:19] What is t you want to use? [10:14:37] What kind of templates? [10:15:44] <_noshiii_> i do have a few in mind like clickable buttons [10:16:52] those can be done w/ simple HTML/CSS [10:17:06] ↑ [10:17:42] <_noshiii_> okay!!! I'll try. [10:28:07] I almost shit myself reading this [10:30:19] [1/2] Same. First thing I read was: [10:30:19] [2/2] Hello!!! Is there is any way to port all of wikipedia into my wiki [10:33:13] Even just considering the templates, It's not worth it, man. 😭 Don't do that to yourself. [10:34:02] You'd probably get more enjoyment from biting your finger off. [10:36:13] Which skin should I use for my wiki? [10:36:21] Like what are the best skins [10:36:42] subjective [10:36:51] I'm CEO of Timeless [10:37:25] What don’t you like about Vector? [10:38:00] And what do you like about Timeless? [10:38:00] Vector is a stone cold classic but making it mobile adaptive is too much work [10:38:41] meanwhile Timeless is adaptive thus you won't have to deal w/ MobileFrontend [10:39:16] the layout is quite nice to my taste too, but can be modified into something more traditional [10:40:07] Old vector or new vector? [10:40:11] and it doesn't have weird parts like those gradient page tabs people usually struggle w/ on Vecfor [10:40:19] old ofc [10:40:28] What about new then? [10:40:32] nah [10:40:37] What do you think of it? [10:42:37] Fun fact, out of curiosity I tried to see if I could find out the number of templates on Wikipedia. I know it's at least more than 9999, the API won't let me search further than that lmao [10:42:59] Timeless my beloved [10:52:36] I think that would crash Miraheze's servers lol [10:53:48] And assuming there are no set limits for importing like xml filesize [11:07:04] how do you do those things where you have a template with an empty variable and you just write it in an article you want to add that template to, kind of like what portable infobox did? [11:08:10] You mean like `{{{variable|}}}`? [11:08:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bvariable [11:08:54] something like that, i guess [11:08:56] will try if it works [11:09:26] [1/7] In your template, add a {{{variable|}}} [11:09:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bvariable [11:09:26] [2/7] You may want to use an if clause if the variable is optional, like [11:09:27] [3/7] `{{#if:{{{sourceurl|}}}|Source: {{{sourceurl}}}|Source: MISSING!}}` [11:09:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template:%7b%7b%7bsourceurl [11:09:27] [4/7] So if the variable isn't specified, it will say MISSING! [11:09:27] [5/7] Then on the page, add the template and assign the variable. [11:09:28] [6/7] Like [11:09:28] [7/7] `{{Template:TemplateName|sourceurl=google.com}} [11:09:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Template:TemplateName [11:09:49] [1/5] ```html [11:09:49] [2/5] {{Template|value}} [11:09:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Template [11:09:49] [3/5] [11:09:50] [4/5] The inputted value was: {{{1|}}} [11:09:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [11:09:50] [5/5] ``` [11:10:22] [1/2] ig an alternative to that would be [11:10:22] [2/2] `Source: {{{sourceurl|MISSING!}}}` [11:10:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bsourceurl [11:11:01] out-of-context idk depends [11:11:19] [1/5] so i guess if i want to fill it up in other articles, i'll just do something like [11:11:20] [2/5] {{templatevariable [11:11:20] [3/5] | variable = 1 [11:11:20] [4/5] | variable = 2 [11:11:21] [5/5] }}? [11:11:28] yes [11:11:32] Special:Import is basically unstable no matter the size, can't comment on RequestImport [11:11:33] Yep [11:12:00] will try to work it out, thanks [11:12:14] [1/14] also note that if you have [11:12:14] [2/14] ``` [11:12:15] [3/14] {{templatevariable [11:12:15] [4/14] |value 1 [11:12:15] [5/14] |value 2 [11:12:16] [6/14] }} [11:12:16] [7/14] ``` [11:12:16] [8/14] it is the equivalent of doing [11:12:17] [9/14] ``` [11:12:17] [10/14] {{templatevariable [11:12:17] [11/14] |1 = value 1 [11:12:18] [12/14] |2 = value 2 [11:12:18] [13/14] }} [11:12:19] [14/14] ``` [11:12:21] I suggest to check [[mw:Help:Templates]] [11:12:21] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [11:12:22] [12:07:44] Would it be okay if I added the Historical template to [[Autoarchive]]? [12:07:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Autoarchive [12:07:45] [12:28:13] You mean Category? [12:32:17] No, I think Blad means this: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Historical [12:33:17] yeah, that [12:33:25] Ah... Autoarchive isn't used anymore? [12:33:37] yep [12:33:46] well [12:33:52] That is the point, yes [12:34:22] revibot is defunct and in turn breaks Autoarchive [12:34:36] If unused, than I think that it is a good Idea. [12:36:30] It's done [12:38:52] I finally found a wiki with an actually decent looking logo [12:39:20] Mock Elections Wiki [12:41:00] @jph2 Thank you so much for your service as a wiki creator. [12:45:51] huh [12:45:54] that's a shame [13:06:29] [1/2] ah yes, brickipedia, the pink floyd wiki: [13:06:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212747721845243935/image.png?ex=65f2f654&is=65e08154&hm=cc33f974be9913417ecd69f0b842020f0af65c30ca4fc4f3460f8af69aff9ce4& [13:09:48] Just a quick question: which extension can allows user preview an another page before submitting? [13:11:27] preview by admins or user himself before saving his edit? [13:12:41] That feature is included in MediaWiki core; unless you're talking about some kind of page curation extension [13:12:56] I means like if I'm editing a template, which extension can allows me preview a page that uses it before saving the templatep [13:13:28] ah, well [13:13:51] just create and attach a documentation page to it w/ usage example [13:14:11] Pretty sure that is default functionality too [13:14:36] when you press preview on template page editor the example in documentation subpage will change accordingly [13:15:55] source editor has preview button near save, the preview will appear above or bellow editor area, depending on your user settings [13:16:41] Uhh [13:16:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212750312507445248/Image_1709212594981.png?ex=65f2f8be&is=65e083be&hm=fb90081402f768f094d35a7e33da648ac42a88ce067feb5d64661391a839e4fe& [13:17:07] I mean this textbox that allows me to preview an another page [13:17:21] huh, first time seeing tbh [13:17:32] from minecraft wiki [13:18:00] well, that's a whole other beast [13:18:21] this is quite useful when changing css, etc. [13:18:57] [1/2] I can only suggest to check their Special:Version page and find name of extension, then see of Miraheze has it installed or not [13:18:58] [2/2] if not you can request it [13:18:58] wait what? is that not default? I had that like forever (though I wasn't the original requestor, so maybe it is some extension I geuss [13:19:12] I've never had it man [13:21:17] this it might be this one, not 100% sure though https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateSandbox [13:22:32] I guess it is, MCW Special:Version has it too [13:22:42] yep [13:22:52] I'll try it [13:24:26] Gotcha [13:24:51] It is the extension that preview an another page [13:25:42] thanks [13:52:40] I basically looked at the HTML for the element on my wiki and went from there to try and see if that gave a clue to the extension name, and it did indeed [13:59:38] [1/5] can someone help me with this [13:59:38] [2/5] ```html [13:59:38] [3/5]
E/div [13:59:39] [5/5] ```the div cannot work on miraheze, but works on normal html? why [14:00:11] I think it's time for a new archive on the SN given the sheer length of some of the recent archives [14:01:11] something's odd though, the list goes up to 38 but there is actually a 39 [14:02:12] ok it's using autoarchive and since that's deprecated... oh dear [14:02:25] anyone? [14:21:22] what exactly doesn't work? [14:26:41] it's flagged as insecure input and probably got truncated by the mediawiki software [14:28:16] if however you add it to a proper css file and instead set up the div to invoke it, it will work [14:29:20] so rather than the original div do `
E/div` and put the css into the mediawiki skin or commons file under `#thingie { put the code here) }` [14:29:29] obviously giving the id a suitable name [14:29:57] yeah, I can tell that bg image doesn't work inline [14:30:13] can use TemplateStyles for that [14:37:57] Hi! I posted on the support channel a few days ago and didn't get much answer. Would it be better if I moved to Phabricator? [14:40:50] Can I know the context exactly? [14:41:57] UploadWizard bug. It isn't very important right now, but if we try to translate the wiki (very future plans) it may interfere [14:42:17] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1211846512896643102 [14:45:27] can reopen my request? [14:45:50] by someone who understand what a furry is [14:47:14] If you didn't include enough contect or information, it's not the fault of wiki creator's lack of knowledge about them [14:48:13] well, how you explain what a furry micronation is? Someone of here knows what a micronation is, but not a furry one. [14:48:19] There's many subjects a wiki can have, and it's unreasonable to assume wiki creators know every detail of everything [14:49:04] really, how do you explain what a furry micronation is? [14:49:46] I took a look and you did not actually answer any of the questions except for the have you read the content policy one. Why don't you make a few example small articles/pages so the people reviewing will have a better understanding of what you are requesting? [14:51:11] How hard is the mobile Meneiva skin to theme/css? [14:55:14] Well, what people will able see is info of all furry micros/mockgovs, wars... Ex. Kingdom of Dragania, etcc... [14:55:28] It's sufficient example [14:57:07] It is not for people who don't know. You can't expect the volunteers who review the requests to know [14:57:56] Being on the internet for a little time I kind of know what a furry is. But I never heard of micronations [14:58:31] are countries that doesn't have any recognition by the UN or even in a map [15:00:19] thats what is [15:01:41] sorry if i'm not so helpful [15:02:31] I know what a micronation is [15:02:37] But a furry micronation doesn't make sense [15:03:06] A micronation is where someone takes some random piece of land and declares that it's a country now [15:03:24] it makes, if well if is a mockgov by example [15:03:33] ran by furries [15:03:47] You could put that in the request [15:04:02] okay [15:04:23] but I need to redo the request or any reopen it? [15:04:35] Just edit the request you already made [15:06:33] Not that hard; all you have to do is put `mw.loader.using("mobile.site.styles");` in `MediaWiki:Mobile.js` and then you can style it just like any other skin [15:11:33] [1/4] Wiki for furry micronations and furry micronations organisations ran by Generalitat Draganiana, which is like a furry wikipedia but for furry micronations and furry micronations. Aimed for worldbuilding and furry micronationalists. In this wiki can be added also mockgovs, it's likely Wikipedia but for furry micronations and furry micronations. Every furry nation can have it's own e [15:11:33] [2/4] ntry. Plus, furry micronations are countries which are run by furries, it's the same what micronations on the system, politics and etc, the only difference are furries in. This wiki can be used for pick up info of all the furries micronations and mock govs, and the history of them. [15:11:33] [3/4] https://www.reddit.com/r/furrymicronations/ [15:11:34] [4/4] https://twitter.com/furrnationsgdr [15:11:41] I updated a little [15:12:18] if furrymicronations.miraheze.org isn't unavailiable use furrnations.miraheze.org [15:12:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41661 [15:12:57] Now wait [15:13:18] Pondering, a Coke-Cola theme for a random reason [15:13:54] I had to redo the request [15:14:05] because isn't open anymore [15:14:11] when its declined [15:14:30] to reopen a request, you just edit it [15:15:35] oh I didn't know [15:15:38] sorry [15:15:46] LGTM; I'd probably approve if I were still a wiki creator [15:15:46] well how long will take? [15:16:12] oh ok [15:16:26] there's any availiable [15:18:46] Like how long will take? [15:18:53] 2-3 days? [15:19:23] Usually within a day [15:22:08] ok [15:22:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41661 [15:23:02] close this [15:23:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/41597#mw-section-request [15:23:24] I opened this one [15:26:34] note that you should update original requests and not create new ones if it is for the same purpose [15:27:08] I created it by accident thinking it can't be updated [15:27:10] as a general notice for anyone interested I just did a massive archive/cleanup job on [[Steward requests]]; not quite finished especially in the misc section but pls review as I'll be out for a few hours and I may well have broke something [15:27:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests [15:27:11] [15:27:40] Can I do differenciate template styles in function of wherever the user use dark or white mode ? [15:30:09] well, after of it, when I have the wiki [15:30:35] I need a little help on setting @Wiki-Bot on my serve [16:15:59] [1/2] Yes, with dark mode the html element gets the `client-darkmode` class which allows for targeting anythig with that class :pupCoffeeMH: [16:16:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212795413141258271/image.png?ex=65f322bf&is=65e0adbf&hm=551666f0c35afeafbe5e9079648f2754608bf036cb9f59c49549d7a3f37c021a& [16:16:33] but it's still best to use an skin with "native dark mode" if available [16:17:19] native dark mode as in dark by default? Or do some skins have dark mode options built in? 👀 [16:17:36] [1/2] the latter one [16:17:37] [2/2] my wiki only use Citizen [16:18:41] That's nice it has native dark mode, it's probably cleaner than the invert the extension does [16:20:47] it is [16:23:00] and also been extensively documented- [16:31:23] What do you think of light mode vs dark mode? [16:32:38] I think light mode has more possibilities [16:32:52] Black only has a few colours that work [16:33:13] But It is calmer for the eyes with a dark background [16:33:26] I had a light mode wiki (grey scales), now it is dark blue/dark grey [16:34:03] I rather like pastel colours, where you can go either way [16:34:23] [1/2] heyo [16:34:23] [2/2] is there any publically avaliable way to set up a recent changes feed for a particular wiki on my own discord server? [16:34:28] like some bot [16:34:42] [1/2] My currant theme made by @tali64 [16:34:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212800122451263538/213212132132.png?ex=65f32721&is=65e0b221&hm=5cc0f20f6a681c79b66c47056dfb742d58b3eb1d0175c64e86fb482b9f4f82d9& [16:35:10] like it is done here in #testwiki-feed [16:35:12] Yeah it's nice [16:35:21] Would you call it dark or light mode? [16:35:25] I see, but I noticed that dark theme is becoming a trend [16:35:48] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page ← is my theme. [16:39:01] Dark. [16:40:35] What parts did you alter on your theme?> [16:41:19] @rodejong Also, I wanted to menion Camberly or near Camberly appears to have a Kingdom Hall, but I do not know mucha bout it, but I saw it [16:42:30] [1/3] 😉 Nothing. It is Anisa Skin. And it is as is. [16:42:30] [2/3] The only thing I changed is the green font. [16:42:30] [3/3] I like that the menu is a bit blending in, so that the article pops out [16:42:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212802152607776778/image.png?ex=65f32905&is=65e0b405&hm=fb1c118ab3546a269508fc8ad58d845b5a061c047c51e6bc188f21f986487d16& [16:43:11] That is a good idea, and that is a lot of skins [16:43:47] give me the theme [16:43:52] [1/2] I'll be doing that in May/June I think. [16:43:53] [2/2] I'm doing all of Scandinavia right now, then the Netherlands, and then Brittain [16:44:20] No. [16:44:29] ok [16:44:40] ok [16:45:00] You can aways ask Taili64 for your own theme [16:45:03] [1/3] Perhaps you could ask it like this: [16:45:03] [2/3] @tali64 could you be so kind as to make a similar skin for my wiki? [16:45:03] [3/3] "Give me the skin" now that is kinda rude mate [16:45:23] ok I wasn't paying attention to what I was saying [16:45:26] mkay [16:45:34] I requested the theme was only for my, and the wiki is "all rights reserved" [16:45:43] You should read before you press enter!! [16:45:49] ok [16:47:44] @the.king.cube Please do not copy/reuse my wiki's theme. It is "all rights reserved." and copyrighted [16:50:58] mkay, can I use it as a template for a catppuccin theme I was thinking earlier? [16:51:07] I'll credit yall [16:51:15] No. [16:51:42] k [16:52:02] I am sure Lake, Tali64 or Xena could make you a theme [16:52:11] not using CC licenses on wikis is very cringe ngl [16:52:25] nah I'm fine, I know a bit of css [16:53:10] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1205770821704876052.webp?size=48 [16:53:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212804769400360980/imageundefined.png?ex=65f32b75&is=65e0b675&hm=723bfd5ccdb5f9ad2d8e1bf9fc375f608a7b0e5f727cc6edf72dbc965666cc3a& [16:53:16] this has been happening for like a day now [16:53:42] That's because the wiki you're editing is using the Moderation extension [16:54:10] Oh wait, that message is shown to sysops iirc [16:55:39] ok [16:59:30] @the.king.cube What colors was you thinking for your wiki? [17:05:44] What colors was you thinking for your theme? [17:15:01] [1/3] WOW. [17:15:01] [2/3] Someone asked on MediaWiki why their pages couldn't load: [17:15:01] [3/3] https://thecodex.wiki/Demi-fiend [17:15:06] Take a look [17:16:20] My tab showed Memory usage 411mb 😄 [17:16:32] [1/2] 😂 [17:16:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212810648724045864/image.png?ex=65f330ef&is=65e0bbef&hm=b117b0785988f966e66b20c5da219dff28b00a5ecf3187f6ca8ee96009ca188f& [17:16:41] and that's with me blocking all of the JS [17:17:10] just the page's HTML is 1.36MB [17:19:20] Never seen a page take 30 seconds to load bit by bit 😄 [17:19:41] Sounds like good old 65k days 😄 [17:21:11] And 4 huge add banners at the homepage 😄 [17:21:24] ofc it is evelution... that skin is just bizarre [17:21:46] indeed [17:21:55] Should be banned [17:22:16] I think that is nice CSS for that page [17:22:44] it really should, how was a skin like that even approved in the first place, boggles me [17:22:55] it may LOOK nice, but it is WAY too heavy [17:23:05] My skin is pretty heavy as well [17:25:02] I really don't like this skin man [17:25:43] What skin is it? [17:25:46] every time I looked at evelution it was super gnarly tbh [17:26:41] "Evelution" [17:26:44] super heavy weight, sidebar is a bit much for me, way too many buttons [17:26:59] totally script dependent to remotely try and function [17:27:00] Oh hang on? Is this hosted on Miraheze or not? [17:27:04] wait, fr? [17:27:36] nah [17:27:40] thecodex is not a mira wiki [17:27:45] the IP is not from Miraheze [17:28:06] How would you make the stheming better? [17:28:12] I mean the skin [17:28:16] get a skin that isn't stupid heavyweight [17:28:40] I thought evelution is different lmao [17:28:55] yeah that's the evelution I know and love to rag on [17:29:04] I have seen MH wiki's with that skin though for sure [17:29:26] me too [17:29:38] I just thought it's closer to fandom desktop [17:29:42] for some reason [17:29:53] it's been suggested to stand in for it [17:29:54] and it is stupid, like sure it seems nice to allow the user at will to change just about every aspect of it... but that also means essentially you are loaded several (probably double digits amount at least), skins all the time [17:30:35] also the page it self is clearly import from fandom but somehow also looks heavier [17:30:40] as much as I like customization, options, availability, there is a point when it just gets far too cluttered [17:32:13] I wonder if a note to put things at the end of the section should be on every SN category [17:32:21] I mean you can still have that amount of customisation, just put it in as several skins to pick from in preferences instead, and you probably would down the load in half alone, I would geuss (ofc I don't have concrete data on that) [17:32:50] simple by default, power if you need it is a strat I like [17:36:05] I pefer Vector 2010 to evelution [17:36:37] I prefer keeping stuff quite simple when I can, my wiki only has 2 skins, one desktop, one mobile [17:37:07] How can you tell if it FANDOM inport? [17:37:32] I've seen fandom megaten wiki couple of times lol [17:37:35] same templates [17:37:46] character from smt [17:37:55] I think FANDOM wikis have a "look" for their main page that most share [17:38:08] yeah, the columns [17:38:25] I see a lot of 6-8 images in 2 rows used as a nav menu as well [17:38:27] when fandom people migrate here they always ask why they don't work lol [17:39:31] Looka t Creepypasta Wiki, Warhammer 40k Fanon Wiki and Mass Effect Fanon Wiki, when I last checked, they all had the "image nav menu" I see a lot on Fandom [17:40:29] people new to fandom were given that main page template w/ columns and slider [17:40:44] can't blame them, newbie thing [17:40:59] I did like the "WikiVoyage" slider thing, it was pretty [17:41:55] Also, I was looking at the https: //thecodex.wiki/Special:Version and there is a lot of skins and add ons [17:46:03] the catppuccin color scheme [17:46:05] yknow [17:46:09] pastel colors [17:50:35] What pastel colors? Any color code ideas? [17:58:08] [1/6] Question. [17:58:08] [2/6] In Vector-2022 I have the following problem with /tab: [17:58:08] [3/6] I would like to see the row with more tabs beneath the few but not sure how to. I think it is css, but not sure how to change that. [17:58:09] [4/6] In Anisa skin it is automatically done so I think. (see 2nd picture) [17:58:09] [5/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212821117991919707/image.png?ex=65f33aaf&is=65e0c5af&hm=8a817a174f7ddfc6d5c1a6ac466e472bcfc273517328da3b565caf56032be24b& [17:58:09] [6/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212821118407147590/image.png?ex=65f33aaf&is=65e0c5af&hm=cd583b613b27aab80537dd43875095c06434e8d50b48d86e2c41ad777b7e7d81& [18:01:15] Also, I was looking at the https: //thecodex.wiki/Special:Version and there is a lot of skins and add ons. Too many? [18:03:58] Not really, tbh [18:05:26] I think I have 2 skins and 3 add ons to my main wiki [18:14:28] Ah. I see. [18:32:09] [1/2] ouch [18:32:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212829678646071356/image0.jpg?ex=65f342a8&is=65e0cda8&hm=16db6ca61c556de521f92c077e02bfc65224cbc33b60a433a12d36b2d8954a90& [18:33:07] Exactly 😄 [18:34:55] and then they tell me to use desktop mode [18:35:36] i think one that is simple and looks good is Citizen [18:36:33] and it doesnt require infinite resources [18:38:52] [1/2] I've made a somewhat crude but hopefully useful reference article for the wiki deletion issue, which can hopefully double as the first use of the news system @tali64 helpfully put together [18:38:52] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Tali64%C2%B3/Miraheze_Community_News/The_Wiki_Deletion_Problem [18:45:00] [1/2] ? [18:45:01] [2/2] Sure. I can adapt the github themes [18:53:29] [1/3] I'm not working on that issue, but I think @agentisai had a theory regarding what went wrong on those wikis. From https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/commit/a5b354970e06e3c39f8fcddb6bdd5711bb8074a9: ``` [18:53:29] [2/3] wgRCAge, if configured incorrectly (as is often), will evict entries from RecentChanges and cause wikis to close earlier than they should. [18:53:29] [3/3] ``` [18:54:09] out for a while but good to know [18:54:15] Which is very much possible; per [[mw:Manual:$wgRCMaxAge]], that setting is the amount of seconds entries in RC will be kept in the DB [18:54:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRCMaxAge [18:54:16] yeah, that was the source of many wiki deletion issues [18:54:16] [18:54:30] but the other was also a CW bug so we may never know which affected wikis lol [18:55:01] I assume from the phab task it isn't hitting any new wikis then? [18:55:05] just people discovering later [18:57:19] have the wikis with insanely low values set on `RCMaxAge` been changed? [18:57:57] *fixed, more like [19:59:47] We could just change the min [19:59:53] Rather than restrict completely [20:00:54] that's what UO commented on that commit [20:01:21] so far noone has made a PR, so I guess noone cares that much [20:01:45] Eh, depends on how much value there is in keeping it. I can’t think of a lot of cases there it would be used by a local crat [20:02:53] There are no values of wgRCMaxAge in ManageWiki below the default of 90 days. I did check, but I think rather than restricting it we could just set a 'min' so it can't be lowered only increased as increasing doesn't break anything, lowering it does. [20:03:07] I'd say there's value [20:06:44] When do MatomoAnalytics start kicking in? [20:08:21] Do we have any other settings with range restrictions like that? [20:10:15] searching for `minint` on localsettings returns 27 hits, so there are a few [20:10:38] I mean from the ManageWiki settings page [20:10:54] oops, meant managewikisettings [20:10:59] those are from managewikisettings [20:11:06] I’m not PHP dev but I did spend a decent while reading the code of MW out of boredom [20:11:12] Oh so in the conf [20:11:13] minint is a ManageWiki thing, not [20:22:55] Could someone link a page explaining what forward and transclude are in interwiki requests? [20:26:17] [1/6] >>> What's Forwarding? [20:26:17] [2/6] Forwarding in Interwiki terms means that if another website links to your wiki and links to a page containing the interwiki prefix, should your wiki redirect them to the destination? For example, if a website links to https://wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/w:WP:1984, should your wiki redirect them correctly to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:1984? If set to no, the [20:26:18] [3/6] n your wiki will return a "Bad title" error. [20:26:18] [4/6] What's Transcluding? [20:26:18] [5/6] Transclusion is what templates do; when you invoke a template on a page, it displays the content of the template on that page. In that same way, if you enable cross-wiki transclusion, you would be able to display the contents of the linked page if you used it like a template even if the page isn't on your wiki. For example, on your wiki, if you were to use { [20:26:18] [6/6] {meta::Help:Interwiki}}, it would display the content of this page on your wiki even though this page doesn't exist on your wiki! [20:26:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Interwiki [20:58:28] Does someone have a picture of Transclusion in action? [20:59:34] I don’t recommend it cause scary translation funky [20:59:46] Ie it don’t respect no include or parameters iirc [20:59:56] Funky, ye [21:00:03] That's one way of putting it [21:00:11] I think I use it on my fandom user page for infoboxes [21:00:34] I think I removed it from my Nyctopedia user page after Rhinos ripped me a new one over it [21:00:59] I don't think I ripped you a new one [21:02:23] Comedic exaggeration but yeah overstatement [21:02:49] So, Transclusion = bad [21:03:34] No [21:03:39] This was my thought also [21:03:42] Oh wait I still have it on uh [21:03:45] Transclusion = good [21:04:07] Scary transclution = scary [21:04:09] Scary transclusion = weird, scary wonderfuk that sort of works but is not a good way of doing anything [21:04:35] Ye we should [21:04:36] This is getting confusing [21:04:48] Okay solved that like I solved most problems [21:04:53] Deletion! [21:06:43] Transclution is a good thing. When you do it using inter wiki prefixes to take from other wikis it gets funky [21:07:14] What’s a “Requested Prefix Link”? [21:08:40] like if i wanted to link to wikipedia and i chose the prefix `wp:`, If i went to the page `wp:Cat` on my wiki, it would redirect to the Wikipedia article on Cats [21:09:47] Then why do you have to request an interwiki? [21:10:07] Wouldn’t it be much better to like give local bureaucrats the ability to add one themselves? [21:10:35] Funny you should mention that [21:11:17] ? [21:11:38] [[Request for Comments/Omnibus rights RfC]] [21:11:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Request_for_Comments/Omnibus_rights_RfC [21:11:40] [21:11:45] Gah fuck it [21:11:55] [[Requests for Comments/Omnibus rights RfC]] [21:11:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comments/Omnibus_rights_RfC [21:11:57] [21:11:59] I believe theyre trying to change that [21:12:01] .. [21:12:05] I’ll just [21:12:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Omnibus_rights_RfC [21:12:38] Proposal 1.1 [21:12:46] [[Request for Comment/Omnibus rights RfC]] ? [21:12:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Request_for_Comment/Omnibus_rights_RfC [21:12:46] [21:12:58] Oooh [21:14:01] What if my motives for supporting have already been said? [21:14:49] Feel free to say “{{Support}} per above” or agree [21:14:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Support [21:14:50] [21:15:06] Or per [username] [21:15:28] How do I use: action=edit [21:16:21] Hm? [21:16:32] Done [21:16:55] How do I use: action=edit? [21:17:31] For example: meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Support?action=edit [21:18:08] Ty [21:18:12] Yea [21:18:17] It’s a url parameter [21:20:20] How long do translator rights request usually take on [[AN]]? [21:20:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/AN [21:20:21] [21:37:24] what's the shortest a subdomain can be? i'm considering requesting a new wiki for an upcoming game and pondering url choices [21:39:25] 1 letter [21:39:43] But most are reserved [21:41:16] shrimpteresting [21:41:43] https://tenor.com/view/its-shrimple-shrimp-funny-haha-meme-gif-9312733212572166512 [21:43:56] i think i'd go with the game's full name anyways cuz the nickname the devs use (cwc) has some other connotations attached to it lol & its not as clear as the game's name [21:44:16] still thinking on it though ,these games tend to get detailed fast [21:44:50] What's the full name? [21:46:54] [1/2] cookie run: witch's castle, the url i'd use is just witchscastle [21:46:54] [2/2] i have another wiki for their other game thats just the subtitle too so it'd match [21:49:23] it's got an apostrophe and cant do hyphens in subdomains so im euuuuh but it'll have to do [22:01:49] you can’t do hyphens in any domain, Miraheze subdomain or not [23:33:05] [1/2] oh [23:33:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212905409136828466/HBpIzZ2.png?ex=65f38930&is=65e11430&hm=8019b0b0c133a2c3126d1c97519e0cc0d9f4a20828045f0b54f91389c8bb6f56& [23:35:52] [1/2] i just wanted something thats like this [23:35:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212906112366673952/WLrxMYE.png?ex=65f389d7&is=65e114d7&hm=2a21142543756511b9c5bb37636e5cec4e7461a6e763c334e4ef0461a90fb655& [23:36:38] @pixldev? [23:41:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212907463142015066/bwtdsfl.png?ex=65f38b19&is=65e11619&hm=30ee0f81367061d8d32b49c20107ded0153115be102f50ec94e4df4fcab4b8a1& [23:41:16] 10/10 [23:46:18] [1/2] hi. is there a way to contain infoboxes to their section headers, i.e. the section is forced to match the height of the infobox. img related [23:46:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1212908736738238484/image.png?ex=65f38c49&is=65e11749&hm=8139f946684f8a256186dc4f833913516f9c2d3e668fb4abe70c08a5159c1272& [23:54:03] i use a `{{Clear}}` template to force sections to break, the code for it is just `
/div` [23:54:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Clear [23:56:27] wonderful, thank you!! [23:56:40] if theres any better solution for this do ping otherwise ill go w this [23:57:34] smart