[00:05:13] I found it, turns out it's more like https://github.com/WikiTideOrg/mw-config/commit/20f69f7def280147c13ee11bef56f35414106dfb and the first just isn't a thing I guess? [00:22:31] @bluemoon0332 vaguely recall you asking to be pinged from somewhere, just visited a new wiki and got logged out [00:25:25] So this is an unrelated random question, but I'm not sure how this works [00:26:30] [1/2] but [00:26:30] [2/2] where does the github magic happen bc it's not in ManageWikiExtensions [00:26:31] About a skin I want to use (have a ticket for it up in phorge, it looks like it's in the green so far). Less about the skin itself, and more about how skins work in general [00:27:23] The skin's github page lists a few improvements the creator wants to make to it, but they're not implemented yet (like improved dark mode, color options etc) [00:27:44] [1/2] [00:27:45] [2/2] found it, semantic drilldown is...already there?? less work for me then [00:28:36] If a skin is updated by its creator after it's installed on Miraheze, do those updates automatically apply to MH wikis or would another request be needed to manually update it? [00:34:22] pretty sure they would need to manually be updated [00:34:39] Gotcha! I was just curious [00:35:04] hey! it works [00:35:06] sorry for the ping [00:35:12] testing out the new icon [00:35:15] cc @pixldev [00:35:18] yeah i noticed it [00:35:21] looks nice [00:35:37] ty! [00:35:49] It's a great skin but a couple of the features I'd want most just aren't there just yet, so I guess whenever that happens I'll just make another ticket [00:35:52] you cant see but it has a crystall pattern [00:36:04] i saw it in #offtopic [00:36:20] [1/2] please... let me export without background [00:36:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216545205805645954/ENfpvur.png?ex=6600c703&is=65ee5203&hm=0de85cf7ad7bc124d0ad590d19d121bbf3f8c49cf1eb25086cfaf0bc21ca1805& [00:38:04] I figured it out and made the pull request [00:38:19] turns out it was installed, just not in the managewikiextensions thing [00:39:06] also why is the miraheze logo now made of amethyst [00:39:27] thats for nitro booster [01:28:08] [1/14] hi, does anyone know why this code [01:28:08] [2/14] ```html [01:28:09] [3/14] [01:28:09] [4/14] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPassive}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPassive}}/nowiki
[01:28:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink [01:28:09] [5/14] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPrimary}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPrimary}}/nowiki
[01:28:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink [01:28:10] [6/14] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerSecondary}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerSecondary}}/nowiki
[01:28:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink [01:28:10] [7/14] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerQ}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerQ}}/nowiki
[01:28:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink [01:28:10] [8/14] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerE}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerE}}/nowiki
[01:28:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink [01:28:11] [9/14] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPhinisher}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPhinisher}}/nowiki [01:28:11] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink [01:28:11] [10/14] /td [01:28:11] [11/14] /tr [01:28:12] [12/14] ``` [01:28:12] [13/14] is randomly getting a 
 tag wrapped around the middle of it? do i sorely misunderstand how nowiki works or something LOL
[01:28:13] 	  [14/14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216558244999467060/image.png?ex=6600d328&is=65ee5e28&hm=55f6fb88129d42a54ed70fe364f452b9c479831fa869779c80dd27a574c8a1fd&
[01:29:40] 	  those spaces before the `{{` is what is causing that
[01:29:53] 	  oh what
[01:29:57] 	  :'( my indenting
[01:30:02] 	  [1/10] this would fix it
[01:30:02] 	  [2/10] ```
[01:30:03] 	  [3/10] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPassive}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPassive}}/nowiki 

[01:30:03] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink 
[01:30:03] 	  [4/10] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPrimary}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPrimary}}/nowiki 

[01:30:03] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink 
[01:30:03] 	  [5/10] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerSecondary}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerSecondary}}/nowiki 

[01:30:03] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink 
[01:30:04] 	  [6/10] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerQ}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerQ}}/nowiki 

[01:30:04] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink 
[01:30:04] 	  [7/10] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerE}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerE}}/nowiki 

[01:30:04] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink 
[01:30:04] 	  [8/10] {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPhinisher}}: {{Abilitylink|BanHammerPhinisher}}/nowiki  
[01:30:04] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Abilitylink 
[01:30:05] 	  [9/10] /td
[01:30:05] 	  [10/10] /tr```
[01:30:30] 	  thank you guys that worked great
[01:30:33] 	  i wonder why that happens
[01:30:47] 	  mediawiki automatically formats a single space before a line like that
[01:30:51] 	  oooooooooooooooo i see
[01:31:02] 	  man that sucks, i like using indenting to make tables more readable
[01:31:08] 	  ah well atleast it lets me indent the html tags
[01:40:53] 	  You can keep some indenting if you  but it doesn't really make everything easier to read.
[01:41:24] 	  yeah :( alas
[01:55:40] 	  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216565173737881631/20240310_215732.jpg?ex=6600d99c&is=65ee649c&hm=f7a238947716e978c2d92edca430d123c1a0c085d22cf6faabae9d3390619d59&
[02:12:20] 	  Please post that kind of content in #offtopic ; also, please change your username to something that's appropriate
[02:13:00] 	  bru
[02:13:52] 	  Am I missing context?
[02:14:44] 	  no i want saying that in response to your message
[02:14:50] 	  I see
[05:20:23] 	  Hey all - question about templates. I have a JSON representation of a character in a game, and would like to use this data to generate the data for a template, or a template that references multiple templates. I noticed that a page can have its content type to json. Is it possible to use data from a page like that as the values within another page's template?
[05:31:31] 	  I think folks in MediaWiki discord are more likely to give an answer
[05:32:55] 	  [1/2] you don't get folks working w/ JSON (outside of TemplateData) here often
[05:32:55] 	  [2/2] if it is possible, then see if Miraheze setup can provide that, maybe an extension is needed etc
[05:34:04] 	  I found one of them: [[mw:Extension:VisualData]]
[05:34:04] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualData
[05:34:06] 	  
[05:34:36] 	  Finally waking up after things and stuffs with my parents and Wikimeida
[06:12:23] 	  Interesting, i'll take a deeper look at it. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, if anything!
[06:59:25] 	  [1/2] wasn't this like 8k wikis before?
[06:59:25] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216641613619531846/image.png?ex=660120cc&is=65eeabcc&hm=606339af95b7d3b8395cd6c7f90e7bd1a5dae9beeab0a7b7680003d97f1ae3bf&
[07:00:05] 	  data base drop
[07:00:09] 	  I guess
[07:00:32] 	  I'm guessing a lot of smaller/inactive wikis were closed
[07:00:39] 	  deleted, yeah
[07:00:45] 	  I see
[07:00:46] 	  ty
[09:17:58] 	  We haven't dropped any databases in about a month I don't think
[09:18:17] 	  that doesn't count wikis marked deleted in CreateWiki though
[09:37:46] 	  quick question, is there a function that makes it so mobile and desktop see different things?
[09:39:57] 	  you mean the layout or like elements of article, template?
[09:42:27] 	  [1/2] kind of like seeing a little difference in content, for example desktop users might see the math render in one line while mobile users see the math render in two lines, just so i can avoid whatever is this
[09:42:28] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216682644461322280/image0.jpg?ex=66014703&is=65eed203&hm=992188ff7a1fd54a709a774a308cafabcd9ccc9e9bb9a8b2e65e115d129f9806&
[09:44:02] 	  part of it can be mobile browsers themselves compensating, especially for text sizing and exact layout
[09:47:13] 	  inherent differences can be tested side by side on desktop, most browsers should have some sort of support for it but there are tools/sites that do it too
[09:47:50] 	  usually the big one people miss is desktop using vector and the mobile skin being minerva
[09:48:26] 	  Minerva 🤢
[09:48:32] 	  mhm
[09:50:16] 	  even w/ another mobile skin unusual content formatting can be a challenge
[09:50:24] 	  gotta live what you got i guess, im just wondering if you can have two different versions of an article for two devices
[09:50:41] 	  it's rendered as image or actual text?
[09:51:19] 	  image
[09:52:18] 	  [1/3] `@media` queries in CSS
[09:52:18] 	  [2/3] either just applying different styling on one element depending on screen size
[09:52:18] 	  [3/3] or having two differently coded but essentially same elements, w/ a display "switch"
[09:52:51] 	  there is also some extension but it's kinda nerfed on Miraheze
[09:53:23] 	  but w/ image render - idk
[09:54:14] 	  [1/2] There is also a tag/parser function for that 
[09:54:14] 	  [2/2] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileDetect
[09:54:17] 	  probably unrelated, but I noticed that Chrome on my android opens my 100% Timeless wiki in desktop mode
[09:54:31] 	  that's the one
[09:54:45] 	  but it doesn't work fully iirc
[09:55:21] 	  ill test it out when i get home, thanks
[09:55:32] 	  I used it to hide something that broke on mobile 😂 worked for that
[09:56:06] 	  at this point i wouldve made more math renders just so it doesnt pass through the web layout but that hack would be resource intensive
[09:56:35] 	  you upload images by yourself?
[09:57:29] 	  no, i use math extension to render the latex for me, but if the equation goes beyond the layout in mobile i might just upload it myself to make it cleaner
[09:57:59] 	  I see
[10:19:32] 	  I've noticed that the Discord bot that posts articles that have been editing hasn't been logging anonymous editors. Any idea why?
[10:30:53] 	  Love the new badge image for mw support
[11:57:59] 	  Why does the "Raidarr" role exist?
[12:00:47] 	  kitty 🥺
[12:01:12] 	  same question
[12:09:03] 	  He deserves it after all he's been through
[12:12:16] 	  [1/2] I placed [[Template:Requests_dashboard|requests dashboard navbox]] in SN and AN, please let me know if there is anything I can do to improve
[12:12:16] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Requests_dashboard
[12:12:16] 	  [2/2] (In the future, I would like to highlight page links where unresolved issues exist, but may need the Variables extension)
[12:12:38] 	  [[Template:Requests_dashboard]]
[12:12:38] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Requests_dashboard
[12:12:39] 	  
[12:26:58] 	  [1/2] While I am not asking for it to be removed, I don't think that is enough justification or we have any kind of system in place to decide who deserves what role. To me at least, it seems like we need policies do deal with this or else we are going to have people asking for random roles at some point in time just because they think they "deserve" it and admins techin
[12:26:59] 	  [2/2] cally shouldn't be able to say no to that because of the lack of regulation.
[12:30:02] 	  I always try to assume good faith (and I think this was done in good faith as well) but this reminds me of a chapter of Miraheze that I don't think anyone here wants to return to where people would exploit the lack of rules
[12:43:14] 	  There's a few random easter egg roles
[12:43:22] 	  @brandon.wm has one too
[12:43:33] 	  Brandon has a Branned role
[12:43:48] 	  I like Labster was bored is the answer @redmin0
[12:44:01] 	  And tbh, I don't really care about Easter egg discord roles
[12:48:27] 	  @.labster ^
[12:49:56] 	  It's fine
[12:50:00] 	  Not hurting anything
[12:50:22] 	  Agent made the raidarr role, and I think Labster made the Branned role.
[12:50:33] 	  Now I really want to see a list of all roles 🙉
[12:50:34] 	  🤷‍♂️
[12:51:50] 	  [1/2] As for "it doesn't hurt anyone/anything", I stand by what I said above. 
[12:51:50] 	  [2/2] > To me at least, it seems like we need policies do deal with this or else we are going to have people asking for random roles at some point in time just because they think they "deserve" it and admins techincally shouldn't be able to say no to that because of the lack of regulation.
[12:52:01] 	  Labster definitely did Branned while bored
[12:52:15] 	  I feel like rules for easter eggs is kind of over regulation
[12:52:26] 	  +1
[12:52:35] 	  Again, it is not hurting anything
[12:52:39] 	  They are pure fun, you don't request one, if an admin is in a good mood, magic might happen
[12:52:53] 	  And this isn't on-wiki, where we need policies for most everything
[12:53:20] 	  That may be true for AFD but if it's going to stay forever, then there should be proper justification.
[12:53:26] 	  do you think if [redacted] had discord he'd get an easter egg role too?
[12:53:46] 	  I'd say it depends if you catch a mod bored and in a good mood
[12:53:52] 	  That's basically the criteria
[12:54:08] 	  Otherwise, we are going to end up with a heavily messed up role system (couldn't really find a better name).
[12:54:24] 	  Do Easter eggs really mess it up
[12:54:29] 	  They are below the normal roles
[12:54:51] 	  I re-iterate, it is not causing any harm. You seem to be the only one with an issue on this.
[12:55:33] 	  Oh, I didn't say it's messed up right now as there appears to be only 2 such roles. But if the trend continues then 20 by 2025 doesn't seem too far-fetched to me, TBH.
[12:56:01] 	  Then so be it
[12:56:09] 	  I don't really see why it's an issue
[12:56:19] 	  It has pretty much no impact on anything
[12:56:22] 	  It's just a badge
[12:56:58] 	  Yep
[12:57:01] 	  I also think the mods are sensible enough to not treat it like candy
[12:57:09] 	  Or it wouldn't be an Easter egg
[12:58:03] 	  That "Raidarr" role doesn't really look like an Easter egg.
[12:58:33] 	  ?
[12:58:39] 	  @raidarr - too lazy to keep scrolling up
[12:58:56] 	  I have geniunely no idea what the issue is
[12:59:23] 	  If you have an issue, dm a discord admin or drop it. 🤷
[13:00:08] 	  I've pinged labster in another server too
[13:00:19] 	  I'm sure he'll see it when he wakes up
[13:05:45] 	  Ideally, we need policies so people don't go around requesting it. It may not be happening today but it will probably happen at some point in time. And at some point in time, someone is going to (perhaps unintentionally) piss off others with this.
[13:05:48] 	  I want to make one thing clear and that is I am not interested in arguing with you all for the sake of arguing at all. Nor do I enjoy appearing like that one guy who wants to kill the joy for everyone. I am raising this because I feel like it should be discussed.
[13:05:57] 	  [1/2] I'm seeing roles as something you work up to, so when others see your motivation, dedication, start to think ... "why isn't he a ..... yet? Let's ask if he's interested."
[13:05:57] 	  [2/2] Asking for roles is good, when you have thought about it for a while, and others say, "hey, isn't that something for you?"
[13:07:17] 	  DMs are the worst place for stuff like this as the community cannot trust either side to tell the truth. Besides, this is completely on-topic for this channel.
[13:07:52] 	  Eh, no need for so many pings. This is not urgent at all.
[13:09:35] 	  Sure but there are too many unreasonable people in this world.
[13:10:14] 	  On a somewhat related note, the "Software Engineers" role should probably be hoisted.
[13:10:22] 	  I agree. We do not know the motives. That's why I say, they have to show it before even to be considdered.
[13:18:35] 	  I think we need to get away from self requests of roles tbh. People should be waiting for nominations.
[13:18:45] 	  Or asking people to nominate
[13:18:51] 	  Both on wiki and in here
[13:20:55] 	  [1/2] When requesting a role, it doesn't need to be a RfC immediately. By showing your help in support threads or in #general you show what type of person you are, and if you are not a irregular attended with a limited time to help someone out, or who doesn't see things through. 
[13:20:55] 	  [2/2] They could be guided towards that. It needs some time from the responsible staff of that role group to keep an eye on them.
[13:21:56] 	  You can show the intention, say, Hey guys, this is what I can, and I could help with that in due time. Would you like to considder me in due time
[13:22:03] 	  Also, anyone know why autoconfirmed guide on meta says "Although the precise requirements for autoconfirmed status vary according to circumstances, most Meta user accounts that are more than four days old and have made at least 10 edits (including deleted ones) are considered autoconfirmed."
[13:22:11] 	  What does it vary on?
[13:23:10] 	  Good question indeed.
[13:25:15] 	  Afaik, nothing
[13:25:59] 	  Isn't it a copy from WikiMedia/Wikipedia?
[13:26:40] 	  Yes
[13:26:49] 	  I have no idea how it varies there
[13:26:54] 	  But it doesn't here
[13:27:42] 	  hmm
[13:36:48] 	  Nothing afaik
[13:39:54] 	  No, Labster made both
[13:40:08] 	  I'm not a fan of custom roles but I defer to Labster as creator of them
[14:19:53] 	  If there is fuss then idc either way
[14:28:46] 	  what ping
[14:29:04] 	  oh
[14:32:41] 	  The right doesn’t grant any extra permissions - as Rhinos said it’s really just an easter egg and a way to have fun on the server is all.
[14:33:56] 	  It’s good to be able to take it a bit less seriously, it’s not always officiality.
[14:45:36] 	  Such roles tend to ebb and flow with intermittent cleanups if admins are on it
[15:04:38] 	  reminder: Blad is now our newest Wiki Creator!
[15:05:40] 	  👏
[15:06:02] 	  The WC renaissance ace
[15:15:14] 	  congrats @zeusdeegoose!
[15:15:47] 	  Congrats @zeusdeegoose Welcome!
[15:23:27] 	  gg
[15:23:54] 	  Congrats @zeusdeegoose
[15:25:38] 	  could a Meta admin delete por favor https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Sakananigate
[15:27:09] 	  @Meta Administrators
[15:27:21] 	  Also maybe contact the user on talk page to ask if they were trying to make a draft(which in itself is odd)
[15:27:24] 	  Welcome to them, @zeusdeegoose!
[15:27:42] 	  it’s weird
[15:27:52] 	  I brought this up a few minutes ago but didnt ping
[15:28:33] 	  Love this new icon
[15:32:27] 	  thanks yall!
[15:32:30] 	  ty to Zppix
[15:37:07] 	  Very
[15:37:18] 	  Probably a mistake by someone who has no idea what they doing
[15:43:27] 	  I had to request deletion of another one of their plank wierd name RfCs
[15:44:19] 	  Oh?
[15:44:23] 	  Same user?
[15:47:29] 	  Where did you request btw
[16:15:32] 	  Just added {{delete}} to it
[16:15:32] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:delete 
[16:15:33] 	  
[16:23:59] 	  fucking hell
[16:24:23] 	  my cat died...
[16:29:53] 	  [1/2] man
[16:29:54] 	  [2/2] I'm really sorry
[16:32:05] 	  https://tenor.com/view/lo-ve-yo-us-om-uc-hf-o-ry-ou-rs-u-pp-or-t-gif-10583273
[16:53:05] 	  oh no... im so sorry
[16:59:54] 	  I normally just ping a meta admin here
[17:01:06] 	  i SO f\\\\\*g hate life at the moment, it's the third time that my family and i faced a loss in a span of one year: my cat died from falling in a pool and during a bad weather for 2 days straight. he was going to be one year old in few months which it's June.
[17:02:17] 	  I'm truly sorry for your loss. Never easy losing a loved one, regardless of their species.
[17:03:07] 	  I hate to be that guy, and I hope it doesn't come across that way, feels like #offtopic might be better for this.
[17:05:00] 	  Had a dog a few years back, he passed too. One of the worst days I've had to endure.
[17:05:43] 	  yes i know how hard it was
[17:05:48] 	  i will be offline for the rest of day.
[17:17:14] 	  I'm sorry that's happened
[17:17:20] 	  Alright
[17:43:37] 	  hi uh
[17:43:44] 	  anyone know how to add a custom theme
[17:43:48] 	  to your wiki
[17:43:53] 	  like a default one
[17:44:16] 	  btw sry if im asking this in the wrong place idk where to go
[17:44:19] 	  there are several skins (themes) availble in extensions settings
[17:44:39] 	  should miraheze be localized as ミラヘゼ
[17:44:47] 	  how do i do a custom one thats default for everyone?
[17:45:41] 	  like how u can for fandom wikis
[17:45:46] 	  [1/3] for example, you enabled Cosmos in extensions
[17:45:46] 	  [2/3] then you go to Additional settings -> Styling tab
[17:45:46] 	  [3/3] right the first setting in is default skin - in a drop down you pick Cosmos
[17:46:03] 	  uh ok ty
[17:47:04] 	  how would i do that for a custom skin
[17:47:19] 	  [1/2] if you want to keep Fandom vibe I suggest exactly Cosmos - it's an adpatation of its old skin
[17:47:19] 	  [2/2] the bonuses are is that it's mobile adaptive (so you don't need mobile mode extension) and you can set up color in Styling settings
[17:47:39] 	  i dont wanna keep the fandom vibe i just used it as an example lol
[17:47:56] 	  i can do css n stuff but idk how to make that effect the entire wiki
[17:48:41] 	  [1/3] ok
[17:48:41] 	  [2/3] if by "custom skin" you mean change colors and fonts and stuff - that's CSS
[17:48:41] 	  [3/3] it has to be set in `MediaWiki:`skin name`.css` page
[17:48:54] 	  alr gotcha
[17:48:55] 	  Cosmos - MediaWiki:Cosmos.css
[17:48:56] 	  etc
[18:07:57] 	  [1/2] working on infobox css, does anyone know what i'd call upon to get the wrapping on the left
[18:07:58] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216809857802436708/image.png?ex=6601bd7d&is=65ef487d&hm=9e81abcb0a5ebe8ff7c0d211757ad9eb06c6f8202e5224a37a89c46bbd814237&
[18:09:55] 	  "white-space: nowrap" might be wrong
[18:11:10] 	  that's it \:D there's some clipping now but ill figure it out :3
[18:20:46] 	  Yo, does anyone have Twinkle working on meta wiki? The Gadget don’t seem to be doing anything for me
[18:20:59] 	  anything on the console?
[18:21:09] 	  Oh good idea
[18:21:14] 	  I’ll check later(on mobile rn)
[18:21:32] 	  The preferences page also don’t do anything
[18:21:45] 	  Oh hey I have exactly 50 meta edits
[18:22:13] 	  I now technically meet the requirements for Autopatrolled… 45 edits late!
[18:22:18] 	  😆
[18:36:11] 	  [1/4] My dad: sends me an email at work saying “I want to learn to set up a wiki from scratch”
[18:36:12] 	  [2/4] Me: Google “install mediawiki”
[18:36:12] 	  [3/4] Dad: “you know I don’t want to do that” 
[18:36:12] 	  [4/4] :What:
[18:37:17] 	  [1/4] "Did you want me to help you set up from scratch"
[18:37:17] 	  [2/4] them "Its ok, I don't want to take away your time like"
[18:37:17] 	  [3/4] ".." "..."
[18:37:18] 	  [4/4] them "but would you?"
[18:40:54] 	  Tell him to install Dokuwiki instead then
[18:42:03] 	  I have no idea what doku wiki is but he’s already relatively familiar with mediawiki… just knows nothing about Linux or sysadmin type stuff
[18:42:26] 	  Basically. Has spent like 4 hours in the last 5 days telling me about how I’m not working on stuff bosses want then does this :ThinkingHardMH:
[18:42:34] 	  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokuwiki
[18:44:28] 	  The worse mediawiki
[18:45:32] 	  Depending on what he wants to use it for [[mw:cli]] or docker May work
[18:45:32] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/cli
[18:45:33] 	  
[18:45:39] 	  Or [[mw:Vargrant]]
[18:45:39] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Vargrant
[18:45:40] 	  
[18:45:59] 	  Or ya know, request a wiki on Miraheze :EpicFaceMH:
[18:46:08] 	  I can't believe what I'm reading 😂
[18:46:34] 	  someone without linux experience should stay far away from Vagrant or Docker tbh
[18:47:19] 	  exactly. It’s all part of the evil master plan to drive people to Miraheze
[18:47:51] 	  Perfect plan 😈
[18:48:12] 	  just a mere glimpse of the horrors of containers will send someone running to Special:RequestWiki
[18:49:53] 	  The marketing cabal go crazy
[18:53:14] 	  I needed this as well, imported no wrap into my Common.css, and it's not working
[18:58:37] 	  [1/3] I'm also attempting to replicate this onto my much better, more beautiful Miraheze wiki
[18:58:37] 	  [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216822605391331429/Screenshot_20240311_182713.png?ex=6601c95c&is=65ef545c&hm=c137c4c54a8b1af565900aba49e2482eb1c8fe0d4873e6abd12d50816391758a&
[18:58:37] 	  [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216822605852708934/Screenshot_20240311_185801.png?ex=6601c95c&is=65ef545c&hm=dfcce180cbfd67aa91b85e942f43f20f9bb9dbc04d443bc03504ceeea014da2d&
[18:59:56] 	  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216822937571819540/Screenshot_20240311_185939.png?ex=6601c9ab&is=65ef54ab&hm=b12fb6e9ea918aa8dee385d45c338bfe1236547f118d9e09b41e76d436dde5aa&
[19:00:51] 	  the code is for portable infobox
[19:01:27] 	  I have it in an infobox
[19:01:59] 	  [1/2] 
[19:01:59] 	  [2/2] you can enable it in your wiki settings
[19:02:02] 	  just wondering, does commenting on a users talk page give them any notification?
[19:02:12] 	  it does
[19:02:21] 	  ok awesome, needed to notify a user about something LOL
[19:02:26] 	  by default it shows a notification on wiki and also sends an email
[19:02:28] 	  iirc
[19:03:13] 	  It's been enabled
[19:03:20] 	  ty orangestar :BlobLove:
[19:04:39] 	  [1/2] you can either make an infobox using Special:PortableInfoboxBuilder or you can code it yourself in source like any other template
[19:04:39] 	  [2/2] a list of tags/values you can use is here 
[19:04:46] 	  Heck
[19:05:18] 	  you can copy this code snippet here to get exactly the effect you want, though you'll have to go in later and style the infobox with css
[19:06:41] 	  i'm sure you can replicate the look in the table infobox you're already using, but its generally recommended to use portable infobox anyways, its just easier to code and manage
[19:06:58] 	  Should Miraheze be localized as ミラヘゼ?
[19:09:07] 	  The code snippet doesn't work. I'm further lost on the portable infobox compared to I guess a normal infobox I've been using
[19:12:50] 	  PI tags are pretty straightforward once you understand how theyre used
[19:13:02] 	  [1/11] ```
[19:13:02] 	  [2/11] <default>{{PAGENAME}}/default/title
[19:13:02] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME 
[19:13:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [3/11] <image source="image" />
[19:13:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [4/11] <header>Name/header
[19:13:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [5/11]     <data source="value1"><label>Label 1/label/data
[19:13:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [6/11]     <data source="value2"><label>Label 2/label/data
[19:13:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [7/11] <group layout="horizontal">
[19:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [8/11]     <data source="diet"><label>Diet/label<default>{{Diet}}/default/data
[19:13:04] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Diet 
[19:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [9/11]     <data source="inclination"><label>Inclination/label<default>{{Inclination}}/default/data
[19:13:04] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Inclination 
[19:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [10/11] /group
[19:13:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [11/11] /infobox```
[19:21:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> 🤔 Curious
[19:22:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> Is there a way to enable a different skin on desktop vs. mobile on a wiki?
[19:22:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Hm
[19:23:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> I see there’s a “MobileFrontend” extension in the default settings but when I enabled it and changed that “mobile” option to a different skin, it didn’t change anything
[19:30:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis., replying to collei_no_last_name> [1/2] The pronunciation here makes me think it could be more like ミラヒズ
[19:30:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis., replying to collei_no_last_name> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216830578662576198/IMG_0128.png?ex=6601d0c9&is=65ef5bc9&hm=615d6aabb8da2533ba56aecf2058df9386d271b46e6166208b2e998e0156ff2d&
[19:30:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <collei_no_last_name, replying to nemesis.> I see
[19:30:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> Although I’m in the mi-ra-haze camp myself in English lol
[19:31:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <collei_no_last_name> In my head I always imagine it as mih-hra-zee
[19:31:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to nemesis.> I've seen people spell it like that as well
[19:31:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> Apparently this is quite controversial lol
[19:31:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> and people complain that they can't find their wiki, only to find out it's not spelled mirahaze.org
[19:31:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kedorati> /meer-ah-jzay/
[19:32:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I say he like heck
[19:32:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Not he as in he’s a human
[19:32:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Personally
[19:32:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> For how I personally pronounce it in English it’d be ミラへーズ
[19:32:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <collei_no_last_name, replying to nemesis.> I've always found it interesting how in English and some other languages the way a letter is pronounced depends on what other letters are around it but in some languages that doesn't happen so localizing things with vague pronunciations is difficult
[19:32:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <collei_no_last_name, replying to nemesis.> Interesting
[19:32:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> This is why Japanese is great lol
[19:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <collei_no_last_name, replying to nemesis.> Real
[19:33:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <collei_no_last_name> Every language should have all the letters sound the same no matter what you put next to it
[19:33:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to pixldev> that's illegal
[19:33:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> heze is pronounced as he's
[19:33:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <collei_no_last_name> Lol I see
[19:34:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> I think its definitely the “heze” that’s the issue
[19:34:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> I wouldn’t even know how to pronounce “heze” in English by itself anyway
[19:34:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> My brain wants to use hehehe as a pronunciation example
[19:34:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> But that can be said differently as well
[19:34:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> hez? heez? he-ze?
[19:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Hehe as in a higher giggling
[19:35:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Or He as in a mischievous cackle
[19:35:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> https://tenor.com/view/haha-mickael-jackson-queendugif-ahah-hehe-gif-13642339
[19:37:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> let’s play miraheze shiritori. the first person to end miraheze with an N loses
[19:37:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I read minecraft Somehow
[19:44:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> [1/2] Okay, so I looked up the star it mentioned and actually you’re right. It is “hee-zee”
[19:44:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216834067543363764/IMG_0129.png?ex=6601d409&is=65ef5f09&hm=7d6b94962f04abfa28a3a134686d53ea5c12b447ba68439497329614dd767f04&
[19:45:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to nemesis.> I knew it!!
[19:45:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Booooooo
[19:45:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Lies
[19:46:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> So it’s… ミラヒズィ？？？
[19:46:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kedorati, replying to dvdexe> I'm gonna try something else. Thank you anyway
[19:46:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> Or something cursed like ミラヒヂィ
[19:47:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to nemesis.> I can’t read Japanese, but if it’s cursed, it’s probably that one
[19:49:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> I feel like its the equivalent of spelling something with a Q instead of a C or K
[19:49:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Qook
[19:50:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> Let him qooq
[19:51:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ‘Not right now honey, I’m wowing’
[19:51:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> wowing…
[19:52:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Autocomplete
[19:53:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis.> 😛
[19:54:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nemesis., replying to nemesis.> just imagine though. in a parallel universe it could be called Miravirginis
[19:54:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nintendodualscreen> How can I add text that is justified to the left? I’m trying to add lyrics but they all spread out across the page
[19:55:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Anyways anyone knows what’s the “patroller school” referenced in {{Patroller granted}}?
[19:55:25] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Patroller_granted 
[19:55:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Patroller_granted>
[19:56:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I may update the page a bit
[20:02:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pixldev> @agentisai (since your a meta admin) do you mind if I remove this bit?
[20:02:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> none
[20:02:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> Doug wanted to develop that but he's long gone
[20:02:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It’s dougover
[20:03:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to agentisai> I’ll look to see if Twinkle properly works on meta. If so I’ll prob add that to the template as well
[20:03:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to nintendodualscreen> My first question would be.. Are you aware of the copyright licenses Lyrics often are protected with?
[20:03:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Seems useful for patrolling
[20:04:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> Doug had a reference for patrollers, that is the extent
[20:04:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nintendodualscreen, replying to rodejong> They’re the lyrics to our fictional band’s song, i’m not familiar with them but if it’s what you mean than we creates them
[20:04:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to raidarr> Oh?
[20:04:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> User subpage?
[20:05:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to nintendodualscreen> Have a link, so I can look?
[20:05:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> Somewhere, he mainly added it to new patroller tp
[20:06:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nintendodualscreen, replying to rodejong> DM
[20:07:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> His notes are likely a bit dated now in fact
[20:07:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to agentisai> :DoneMH:
[20:07:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Edited
[20:07:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Patroller_granted?diff=prev&oldid=378286
[20:11:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Gonna look for the Doug guide
[20:13:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> Actually I may have confused it with patroller granted tbh
[20:14:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to raidarr> I cannot Find the doug guide 😔
[20:14:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It’s dougover
[20:14:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> Yeah that template was his work anyway, probably the only one
[20:15:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to raidarr> Oh well, it does a good job at explaining so
[20:16:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Plus like you said in AN, it’s a very minor role, we don’t need that much documentation on it
[20:17:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> mhm
[20:18:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Side note: does anyone else go insane at how small the patrol button is?
[20:35:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to pixldev> Too big for me, make it's font size like 3px
[20:35:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Too big????
[20:35:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Pardon
[20:35:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Joking
[20:35:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We are talking about the same thing yes?
[20:35:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Good
[20:37:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the whole concept is kinda flat to me tbh
[20:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> even when a steward edits there is no harm to a few eyes glancing over it
[20:39:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> For a wiki like mine with a lot of not very educated users and a very small/inactive mod team it’s great
[20:45:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> what is miraheze's policy on private, personal wikis again?
[20:46:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> permissible at this time, clear scope/topic still expected
[20:47:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> would someone be able to start a private wiki for, in this specific case, an individual with DID documenting their alters/personalities? not sure if thats a use case anyones ever had before LOL
[20:47:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> totally fine if not, ive been exploring solutions for literal years at this point
[20:48:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I don't think I've seen it but I think it would be acceptable
[20:50:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> id love to give it a try, i think my only worry is i dont want to upload tons of personal use images on miraheze out of respect for yalls bandwidth, i own my own CDN but mediawiki is weird about embedding external images (in infoboxes namely). but i suppose if im the only one who really queries it, it shouldnt be too bothersome
[20:50:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <frittmenneske> hello my favorite people 🙂 Is there a way to delete a revision? I see it is a mediawiki extension (RevisionDelete) for it, but it is not available in the standard extensions. I want to do this because of private information that was added to a page
[20:51:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Don't need an extension
[20:51:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to frittmenneske> is this meta wiki or your wiki
[20:52:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <frittmenneske, replying to pixldev> my wiki.. is this done by the "hide" command the revision page?
[20:52:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to frittmenneske> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revision_deletion
[20:52:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> also see [[Oversight]]
[20:52:35] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Oversight
[20:52:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Oversight>
[20:52:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> tl;dr email stewards@miraheze.org about it and they'll over sight it
[20:53:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> so not even an admin of the wiki can see it
[20:53:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> only people with a legally binding contract will have access
[20:53:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to frittmenneske> Where did you see a reference to it being a separate extension?
[20:54:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <frittmenneske> thanks @pixldev
[20:55:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> wuh
[20:55:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's only been core for circa 13 years
[20:55:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <frittmenneske, replying to rhinosf1> true! I misread the page.. my bad 🙃
[20:56:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It'd be kinda funny if the docs were that outdated
[20:56:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> No worries
[20:57:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you misread it, it probably should be better too
[20:57:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @bluemoon0332 looked at the console, dont seem that any of Twinkles code is loading
[20:57:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> using dev tools and searching for it
[20:57:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I see four occurrences with it on and off
[20:57:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> anyone else use it as a gadget?
[20:58:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Twinkle has a history
[20:59:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> sigh
[20:59:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <frittmenneske, replying to rhinosf1> I wouldn't put money on that
[20:59:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ill just try importing it as a script
[20:59:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> grown
[21:00:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> no wait theres 6 now
[21:01:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> still not doing anything
[21:03:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> hm
[21:03:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to tedkalashnikov> if the images are properly compressed shouldn't be much of an issue, although note that private wikis store images on a server configured so you can't just hotlink them
[21:04:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov, replying to raidarr> thats totally fine! most of our images are less than a few hundred kb, we would probably use the one external image extension to host anything larger (such as artwork)
[21:05:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> thanks for the help guys, i put the request in. would be interesting if im the first LOL
[21:05:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> most likely
[21:08:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332, replying to pixldev> Twinkle is quite popular I think (I don't use Twinkle lol), can't imagine it being broken but could be the case
[21:08:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> I'll look at it tomorrow
[21:08:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's popular on Wikipedia
[21:08:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> If it was fixed before that ping me pls
[21:08:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> 34 active users on meta seems
[21:09:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> i tried importing the gadget page directly as well
[21:11:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bluemoon0332> well idfk about the gadget but using `mw.loader.load("https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Twinkle.js?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript%22);` from dev wiki seems to work
[21:16:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> Those are hardly the same scripts
[21:16:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> diffing them is giving me tons of differences
[21:16:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> Which is strange because Naleksuh maintained both
[21:16:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[21:16:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> I'll look at it tomorrow
[21:22:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bluemoon0332> thanks
[21:23:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> (may wanna note that the dev one also gives an alert that twinkleoptions.js cant be loaded)
[22:14:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> hi, is Wikipedia's [Userbox module](<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Userbox>) portable to Miraheze?
[22:17:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yes but, [[wikipedia]] applies
[22:17:08] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wikipedia
[22:17:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikipedia>
[22:17:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> ic ic
[22:18:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> though I don't think we have much on dev wiki to do userboxes, that's a gap
[22:18:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> but even drawing on how meta does it would probably be safer
[22:18:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> yeah, ive no idea how else youd do them, but theres a small demand for them on phightingwiki
[22:18:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> does meta have userbox?
[22:19:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to tedkalashnikov> [1/2] just so I'm not on about the wrong thing, you mean this basically?
[22:19:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to tedkalashnikov> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216873084431110296/image.png?ex=6601f85f&is=65ef835f&hm=65bce50e590e2e1784cbfe4fef74dbdbe47a19f1bca809e468451fe9356974b5&
[22:19:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> yeah exactly that!
[22:19:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm, replying to raidarr> what in the
[22:19:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> oh that's Agent
[22:19:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> LOL
[22:19:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> phighting is a class-based pvp game so users love to show their favourite classes, maps, npcs, etc. and i just love userboxes tbh
[22:20:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> but i looked at the lua and was like [worries]
[22:20:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> somehow you guys already were ahead of me with that meta link LOL
[22:21:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to brandon.wm> pfff
[22:22:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [1/2] so his boxes actually derive from loginwiki and that section is built in pieces like so
[22:22:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1216873812344439005/image.png?ex=6601f90d&is=65ef840d&hm=cc99509a767f226f9013acffc4ab8b212b318ad5a733d9ef432192ae2ab6ebae&
[22:22:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> Interesting
[22:22:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> top, bottom and then a custom assortment in the middle is probably enough
[22:23:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> how would a wiki create their own userboxes, then? i assumed id need to import the module from Somewhere
[22:23:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [1/3] for code see 
[22:23:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [2/3] <https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Agent_Isai?action=edit>
[22:23:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [3/3] and for each template just visit the page called, remembering to add Template: behind it
[22:23:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> ahhh i see
[22:24:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> <https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Userbox> so this is a miraheze-based userbox module? if im understanding
[22:24:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> was just about to link it
[22:24:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> sorry haha!
[22:24:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [1/2] then template:userbox uses that, and the userboxes are built like so
[22:24:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [2/2] https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:User_steward?action=edit
[22:25:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> no quite alright, I actually have little idea how it really works there so I've been looking at the same time
[22:25:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> we're learning together 😆
[22:25:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> always learning
[22:26:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> let me go see if i can finangle it to work
[22:26:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if it's not on dev wiki I'll see about getting it there, that's where we should be finding these things
[22:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> yeah that would be awesome, thankfully ive got a bit of luck importing modules as i had to import a ton of things from fandom
[22:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> ah so you might be above the level of that wikipedia essay as it is; it's really meant for infoboxes anyway, that's where you need tons of things
[22:27:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I see devwiki brings in modules as well but it should not spam up the wiki
[22:27:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Userbox
[22:27:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> nah the essay was still important! its always good to remember that wikipedia is kind of insane LOL
[22:28:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yeeeah it really can be
[22:28:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> should i import the module from dev or login? they seem identical to me
[22:29:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> or can i invoke dev somehow
[22:31:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Switching Raidarr's custom icon back on because Raidarr Loðbrók keeps changing his username and it's hard to keep track of him otherwise.
[22:31:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> i watched that in real time it madem e laugh
[22:50:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> It wasn't entirely my fault
[22:56:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Lol he did get his role above wc
[23:08:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> hoist it at his point
[23:10:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to agentisai> Raidarr is alway invis so it won't matter 🤷‍♂️
[23:10:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ultracane1997> lol
[23:24:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Rodejong
[23:24:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to rodejong> wow how does it know its evening?
[23:25:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> 😉
[23:25:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I have my tricks
[23:25:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I even can tell who you are
[23:25:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> ooh
[23:26:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194
[23:36:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to globe_x> https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[23:38:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to rodejong> Thats cool.
[23:39:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Seriously, how do you do it
[23:39:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Might add it to the homepage of a wikifarm we're making
[23:48:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> ```{{#switch:{{LOCALHOUR}}|05|06|07|08|09|10=Good morning|11|12|13|14|15|16|17=Good afternoon|18|19|20|21|22|23=Good evening|00|01|02|03|04|05|06=Good night}}```
[23:48:50] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23switch:Template:%7b%7bLOCALHOUR 
[23:49:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [1/7] hi guys its me again, say i have this data in my infobox:
[23:49:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [2/7] ```html
[23:49:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [3/7]     <data source="pronouns">
[23:49:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [4/7]       <label>Pronoun(s)/label
[23:49:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [5/7]     /data
[23:49:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [6/7] ```
[23:49:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [7/7] i want to add a tooltip/hover that applies to EVERY entry into the 'pronouns' field, is that possible? not sure what part i can wrap the tooltip into