[01:07:03] [1/3] 💤 [01:07:03] [2/3] 🛏️ [01:07:03] [3/3] 🛌 [02:35:47] Is the text I put on https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Foundation_policies/ja correct? I used Jisho to find the words so I might've gotten something wrong [08:25:21] [1/2] idk where to put this exactly but i wanna apologize to the wiki creation team if theres an influx of requests for "system wikis" or wikis about an individuals DIDOSDD, my two closest friends also requested one (one was approved, one is on hold) separate to me and im a public figure in a DID based community so people just kind of... like to do what i do, for whatever reason ^^; [08:25:22] [2/2] ; [08:25:39] if the staff have any question about this and need help understanding what these wikis are for, let me know and im free to explain [08:35:58] [1/2] (One of the friends mentioned here, I just happened to look at the right time) also willing to help in case there's any need. Additionally, since I've recently got a worldbuilding wiki fory own projects approved, i would be fine with my current request being merged into the already existing worldbuilding wiki. I requested a separate one due to the different scopes, but i understand i [08:35:59] [2/2] f this is too resource intensive and if merging would make more sense [08:37:01] If i need to leave a note about that on the request page (#42156) let me know! [09:22:33] Please do 🙂 And thanks for your comment [09:22:51] Will do in a second 👍 [09:25:42] done, thanks for the confirmation! [10:20:06] I modified the page MediaWiki:SideBar in my wiki, and the sidebar in skin Vector 2022 is still the old one while sidebars in other skins are good. Is there anyone has any ideas about this? [10:26:06] [1/2] How does this error still show? [10:26:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217780792072343582/IMG_1254.png?ex=660545be&is=65f2d0be&hm=4288e14507dd3e6de8d58c1b724e9407fd349691b3b403ad0346b1f9148e3d6b& [10:26:21] I imported the Mbox dependencies [10:30:26] You edited the sidebar in vector-2022 skin turned on. It is still showing the cached version. Sometimes it takes a while, but it will definitely be refreshed by the server. As the other skins weren't loaded, their change is instant [10:30:40] Link? [10:30:53] https://wiki.greatphermesia.com/wiki/Template:MessageBox [10:32:09] Why did you call this "Module:DevMbox" ? [10:32:35] Because I wanted to? [10:32:52] I mean there’s a reason behind it but I can’t explain it ran [10:33:36] Any future template or Module that wants to use MBOX won't work because it won't be called. [10:33:40] But okay [10:33:53] There is a module Mbox already [10:34:02] Module:Mbox and Module:DevMbox are different [10:34:09] ok. [10:35:13] [1/3] ```local getArgs = require('Dev:Arguments').getArgs [10:35:13] [2/3] local i18n = require('Dev:I18n').loadMessages('Mbox')``` [10:35:14] [3/3] Dev:Arguments won't be called, that will load a non existing file from [[dev:]] [10:35:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev: [10:35:14] [10:35:25] Same with Dev:I18n [10:35:38] https://wiki.greatphermesia.com/wiki/Module:DevMbox [10:36:34] yeah, i had to manually import all of these onto my wiki and change the calls [10:36:42] it took like 30 minutes of chasing down the error messages [10:36:53] its not that easy to explain unforts >__>;; [10:37:21] Exactly [10:37:45] That’s why I already replaced dev:arguments [10:38:06] Or it wouldn’t be called [10:38:16] you need to import Module:Arguments from presumably dev.fandom.com and then alter the call in Module:DevMbox (l [10:38:17] Apparently not, as I still see it being called [10:38:29] then you also need to import I18n and some other stuff [10:38:46] Wait what? My changes didn’t save [10:39:33] on fandom, these `Dev:` calls are pulling modules from their developer wiki, but theres no alternative to this module on miraheze's dev wiki [10:39:34] Thank you. Is it possible to take more than 24 hours to be refreshed? [10:40:01] Sometimes even a couple of days [10:40:15] I understand, and I just realised the changes I did to the scripts were not saving because of my internet connection [10:40:19] [1/2] so you just have to import them manually into your own wiki and change code accordingly [10:40:19] [2/2] also it happens, just publish again [10:40:20] The sidebar is famous for being slow 🙂 [10:40:36] no worries, sorry for slow response my data is awful too haha [10:40:44] its a pain but once you import and change everything it should work [10:40:53] I can do it for you [10:41:22] Ah, it worked I see [10:43:36] [1/3] @eatyourglory Module:DevI18n : [10:43:36] [2/3] local fallbacks = require('Dev:Fallbacklist') [10:43:37] [3/3] local entrypoint = require('Dev:Entrypoint') [10:43:50] Yep I just noticed that too [10:44:30] It's a loong process, You need to study each file to see what it depends on. [10:45:03] Yep [10:53:07] [1/5] Is there any way to parse the text from the name of the current open tab? [10:53:08] [2/5] For example I'm trying to make it so that [10:53:08] [3/5] ```
[[File:NGSUIItem{{PAGENAME}}.png]]/div``` [10:53:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:NGSUIItem%7b%7bPAGENAME%7d%7d.png [10:53:08] [4/5] will show the image of the item, without making 18 different pages for each weapon type so that it runs properly, so what would I exactly need to add to get it to pull from the "Sword" tab [10:53:09] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217787592779501589/image.png?ex=66054c13&is=65f2d713&hm=549229be82aab99ae20827642f3b6e502bd7cfe82f5542e13042b3adbe64eb81& [10:55:44] [1/2] I can’t find this anywhere [10:55:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217788249842516048/IMG_1255.png?ex=66054cb0&is=65f2d7b0&hm=673ec9710ddd05a0a5877b80de0b67462ec489a16ca36b23ed62c15b9c456856& [10:55:57] There is no reference to Dev:Arguments/i18n [10:56:08] I mean there has to be but I can’t find it anywhere [10:56:19] Probably deleted? [10:56:49] But why not using Arguments, in stead of DevArguments? [10:57:14] Even if I used arguments that wouldn’t solve the problem as it’s searching for it on the dev wiki [10:57:58] Not if you ask for Arguments/i18n [10:58:23] But it’s asking for Dev:Arguments/i18n [10:58:34] Not Module:Arguments/i18n [10:58:53] Because they have placed all files on Dev. [10:59:24] But you don't need to have double of everything [10:59:29] Exactly, so now how do I replace that if not even the search function on my wiki can find it? [10:59:30] Just remove dev. [11:00:24] Then it will just call the nrmal nes you have already [11:01:02] I can’t remove something if I don’t know when to remove it from. [11:01:40] That's the problem with copy pasting complicated templates and modules 🙂 [11:02:27] The dependencies you can easily edit, by removing the dev. [11:03:02] Like Arguments is the same [11:04:07] My wiki requires me to… [11:04:44] Well I can’t even find it using the search bar on my wiki [11:05:01] I'll have a look [11:26:09] Where did you get these files? Not from our [[Dev:]] [11:26:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dev: [11:26:11] [11:30:38] These files really are a puzzle [11:49:46] [1/2] I think it is better to use the simple versions from our DEV. Modules with dependencies are not really my thing. [11:49:46] [2/2] [[Dev:Category:Templates]] [11:49:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dev:Category:Templates [11:49:47] [11:50:14] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Notice_templates [11:50:54] These are simpler versions, without many dependencies [11:51:02] Use them instead [11:51:14] They work almost the same [12:17:15] the default for header tabs is a grey background with the default font, is there a way to change the font size, colour, and background? [12:19:07] [1/2] you mean ``? [12:19:07] [2/2] can be modified w/ CSS (via MediaWiki:Common.css page) [12:20:42] Would still love to know what .xsd schema our xml backups use and it would be great if we could include that in the docs on meta [12:21:20] not tabber, specifically the header tabs parser hook. () i need it to display at the top of the page, where the page name would normally be [12:23:48] [1/2] this is what it looks like when i use it, but i want to change the font and bg colour and font size to match with my theme [12:23:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217810413400363099/image.png?ex=66056154&is=65f2ec54&hm=8161d7a449750324f020d2a5d8229c9dc9fb07a15a4a8f4ae7423536ad1fed88& [12:24:27] font size less important than the rest. i could live without it [12:33:25] [1/2] mw documentation has this [12:33:26] [2/2] [12:34:16] I haven't worked w/ this extension but I guess of that's wonky then Common.css still can be a solution [12:38:40] I was thinking about this when I saw [[Community_portal#CAPTCHA_unworkable_in_china]], Miraheze may need a global captcha exempt like GIPBE? (I believe it existed in the Wikimedia project.) [12:38:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal#CAPTCHA_unworkable_in_china [12:38:41] [12:43:04] hcaptcha was discussed a few times, I still favor it somewhat [12:43:22] (Not sure if this should be RfC.) [12:43:24] I don't know how much we use cloudflare but if it's to any significant degree they have their own captcha going [12:43:42] it should be an rfc if clear ideas are put together but one was already tried and malformed from a look at recent changes [13:40:49] A CAPTCHA RfC is technically invalid because it'd fall under SRE's jurisdiction [13:40:51] How would I convert all of my fandom stuff to miraheze stuff! [13:40:54] but we do indeed use hCAPTCHA [13:41:10] We could look into CloudFlare but a reason we chose hCaptcha was because of privacy [13:47:28] could have sworn the meta complaint was about google and suggested a change to hcaptcha [13:47:33] so that was just nonsense entirely then [13:47:53] By importing the files from [[dev:]] and make sure that you redirect the templates to the new files [13:47:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev: [13:47:54] [14:10:01] whilst cloudflare continues to power half the internet [14:33:25] rather not give them more ground, though if we're dependent on them already and traffic goes through them then may as well [14:57:56] we're not [14:58:09] only thing we use from them is their recursive DNS resolvers on the server [14:58:12] nothing else iirc [15:19:38] alright... [15:19:42] i'll get to work [15:48:48] done i just imported these (the ones who links worked) [15:51:43] Hi I just joined Miraheze I'm new here , but it is possible to take over a Wiki that's been deleted? [15:52:06] I reopened a wiki but to sine that I cannot make edits because I want that domain name [16:34:36] [1/2] i have a problem... [16:34:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217873528632905828/image.png?ex=66059c1c&is=65f3271c&hm=e1c572afb893ad41c6e7b58d8ae2da5ae86c4bb8b0a64e25480e65b1e738110a& [16:34:53] i've been told it's possible for server admin to increase the memory limit? [16:34:56] 😳 [16:35:02] i'm dealing with a long thing of data you see [16:35:12] [1/2] can check it out [16:35:13] [2/2] https://jojomodding.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_All-Star_Battle_R_Files [16:35:13] How long? 🤔 [16:35:36] if i add more now, i reach the memory limit [16:35:42] which is... problematic [16:36:12] [1/2] quote [16:36:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217873930887630929/image.png?ex=66059c7c&is=65f3277c&hm=357ab9031ff3f944c11d7c7d418ccc88d64be26d3c4859a0d432dc6bbff7229b& [16:36:25] it reads from a wiki JSON page [16:36:31] and formats it like a file directory for viewing [16:36:37] this isn't even like [16:36:43] 10% of the final output [16:36:47] damn [16:37:11] which is unfortunate because this is quite important for the wiki... [16:47:54] I mean, it _is_ possible [16:48:09] just that I think we have never increased the Scribunto memory limits [16:48:25] but we can look at how viable it is [16:48:28] could we increase them? [16:48:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/898649999267729498.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=TsudaHappy [16:48:36] por favor [16:48:46] i can't think of an alternative otherwise [16:48:56] You sure? [16:49:09] It might even be in ManageWiki as restricted [16:49:10] Do you know of a case [16:49:17] Meta [16:49:18] oh and os, got knocked out visiting my own wiki twice [16:49:34] When we installed translatable templates stuff [16:49:44] I raised the limits for meta then with Paladox [16:50:29] that's a bit weird [16:50:32] very [16:50:38] it's a private wiki I was already attached to [16:51:09] @kojobailey we probably can increase them for your wiki then [16:51:23] visited once, browsed a little on a wiki I was already on, came back and had to relog a second time [16:53:42] btw the setting for that is not on ManageWiki, but rather on https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/GlobalSettings.php#L690 [16:54:27] If Meta ever had increased memory beyond the regularly available amount, it doesn't anymore it seems [16:54:37] can't find any overrides on localwiki [16:56:06] As long as it's reasonable then ye [16:59:58] @kojobailey mind creating a task on [[Phorge]]? If not I can create it for you [16:59:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [16:59:58] [17:01:20] what is reasonable? [17:01:43] currently it is set at 50MB [17:01:52] so maybe 75MB for your wiki? [17:02:02] it's 50MB?? [17:02:11] how did i hit the limit [17:02:12] at all [17:02:13] yes [17:02:23] I can't believe it myself either [17:02:23] surely i can't have been using more than a few KB [17:02:33] might've done something to cause a glitch then [17:02:48] also worth to look at that [17:02:55] issue only happened when i tried applying certain `` tags to a certain something [17:03:13] in that case [17:03:31] since i've gotten rid of said span tags anyway, I'll hope it was a mistake on my part [17:08:04] i dont really understand how to change it from this 😔 could you dumb it down for me? read the whole thing [17:08:59] You have a genuine reason and aren't asking excessively [17:11:16] [1/2] sorry, not able now [17:11:17] [2/2] hope another volunteer will [17:40:15] oh sorry, thanks though! [17:46:01] [1/3] my heading colours arent changing even though i have it in common css [17:46:01] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217891499371663441/image.png?ex=6605acd8&is=65f337d8&hm=4f67f357d604896a06228ee01b6bf786e4424977a75a998c258e6e375b095cfe& [17:46:01] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217891499589500988/image.png?ex=6605acd8&is=65f337d8&hm=2b3ec814cb9814cb8590559430c52ec161be7030262d34e54f736ceb6cef0f99& [17:51:00] Hi, is there a magic word that automatically calculates the days since a set date? I want to write "It was started (automaticaly updated number) days ago" [18:10:31] is there any way to mass create pages named from a list? i.e. i feed a list of page names into some sort of tool and it makes the pages for me [18:12:25] use inspect element to check if theres any overriding styles - a lot of the elements on mediawiki are styled with precise classes, i.e. `.headertabs h1` or something rather than just `h1`. your browser will take these as "higher" and apply them instead. so use inspect element to check whats happening [18:15:24] update: this awb method might be what i want? will report back [18:39:16] the class is showing as mw-headline, and ive been tinkering with it, but its still showing up as black (not maroon and in Verdana like i need) no matter what i do 🥀 [18:40:51] i might be able to look when im home if a volunteer isnt able to [18:42:11] i would appreciate that :) [19:15:12] [1/2] how do i make this counter update? [19:15:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1217913935114539068/9HinIV3.png?ex=6605c1bd&is=65f34cbd&hm=8aca71224a29689dca643a94b8572efee085e94a1a9d36a581921cdb8950d4c0& [19:20:36] It'll update twice a month [19:20:57] damn that is gonna take a while [19:22:19] when does it update? [19:22:23] like is there an exact day? [19:25:40] Yes [19:25:56] Probably around now [19:26:16] Do your pages actually count as articles? [19:26:27] E.g. do they have a link in them? [19:29:12] I didn't even know that they only update twice per month 😮 [19:29:28] Per 1st and 15th? [20:01:08] `#h1, #h2, #h3` don't need the #, that's why that part doesn't work [20:03:41] OH [20:05:45] got a question, are there any additonal plugins in wikiforge that miraheze doesn't have? [20:06:13] if so is there a way for me to look at them before purchasing a subscription? [20:09:27] I think the main one is single sign on [20:10:20] do you guys have a document or something of all of the plugins that are avalible? [20:10:45] Try wiki tide meta, Miraheze has. [[Extensions]] but it ain’t always up to date [20:10:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions [20:10:46] [20:11:07] Mostly you can just request smt be added [20:11:18] Provided it passes a security review [20:16:59] I am guessing the declined plugins can't be added to any wikiforge wikis you make [20:18:01] If MH rejects an extension for security concerns prob so will forge [20:18:34] indeed [20:30:29] Which extension are you looking for? [21:00:33] <.labster> Yeah, sometimes the security model is different. I could see Extension:Widgets being installed on Forge, for instance, because the client is responsible for using them correctly, and they don't have to worry about interwiki credentials being stolen. [21:42:54] [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Age_in_days [21:42:54] [2/2] not sure if its been answered but here's what your looking for [21:45:28] [1/2] Be aware that template also requires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Age [21:45:28] [2/2] and may have other dependencies. [21:47:47] Hmm okay thank you [21:48:41] There are a lot of dependencies [21:48:46] I use a slightly older version of the template Age in weeks, which only has Template:Age and Template:Gregorian serial date for other templates it uses [21:50:19] The version in the history from August 2007 would probably function well. [22:57:12] <.labster> Does anyone here have any experience at all with Extension:UnlinkedWikibase? [23:04:59] Not yet [23:05:24] I have it installed, but the Manager Wiki doesn't activate it [23:05:33] See https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1215789068911120485 [23:12:00] update to this: just creating a new line list of the pages i wanted and copy/pasting them into AWB and then using append/prepend to throw my default text in was all i needed! [23:12:05] if anyones out there trying to make like 500+ pages like me 😭 [23:18:57] I rather use substitute templates, as my pages are standard layout, but I still have to make changes to it [23:21:16] Kinda wish there was a way to mass make pages for Linux as well, as AWB is a pain [23:22:03] I kinda wish there was a Linux AWB [23:22:15] AWB is so convoluted but it really does do the job [23:22:45] i hear AWB can run under wine but i only have a m1 mac other than my pc so i cant test that [23:23:14] You can run it on Wine [23:23:22] Haven’t done it myself but heard it worked fine [23:25:29] I find it a pain in the backside [23:25:47] I thought there was? [23:26:32] Uh, there is AWB what is Windows software, has to be used with WINE on LInux and JWB what is bwoser side [23:27:57] okay [23:30:38] i like wine [23:30:42] not the kind of wine you mean [23:30:45] but apples and pears, right? [23:55:18] is it allowed that someone can request multiple wikis [23:55:48] i think yes [23:56:40] yes but you should plan for each of them to be active wikis [23:56:41] Yes, but try not to request too many [23:57:05] k [23:57:05] It has to be reasonable. [23:57:21] eh i just wanted to help a community that im in with smth [23:57:24] like building [23:57:28] for example [23:57:40] since the owner of said game linked a wiki to that game that was already dead [23:57:44] so im making an alt [23:58:28] On Miraheze? [23:59:08] nope, a different service [23:59:13] wikifarm [23:59:18] idfk what is it [23:59:47] It would make sense for whoever is gonna be the main active admin/crat to request but if you do it for them that should be fine probably maybe