[00:02:23] what happen with the interwiki channel!! [00:05:44] nothing? [00:06:00] perhaps discord did its thing where it auto hides stuff for fun [00:06:10] oh wait I see [00:06:23] must have implemented the bureaucrat gets interwiki access [00:06:53] Yes [00:07:03] The channel has gone kaput [00:37:49] is there a way to make an element (an image in this case) scale WITH another element? [00:38:32] [1/2] https://allsaintsstreet.miraheze.org/wiki/Neil_Bowman#tab=null in this page the table changes size based on what i put in it, is there a way to fix this image to scale according to the width? [00:38:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218357702523228260/image.png?ex=66075f08&is=65f4ea08&hm=d3571e845fb772871000166c25f096abefe71d27ee8dbd1ac7237e17e07d0139& [00:39:13] its also in tabber, idk if that effects things [00:43:48] @idrinklisterine ask here [00:57:21] so, i recently changed our wiki's domain name, our google analytics is currently under the old (miraheze) url, if i change the google site verification key will this affect our wikiseo significantly? [02:16:28] [1/2] 💤 [02:16:28] [2/2] 🛌 Good night. I'm off to bed [02:53:18] It won't effect anything [02:53:33] It's a good idea to change the verification key if you need to [02:55:09] okay, im a bit confused since the SEO is for the old url :'D so im not sure how to swap it over [02:57:53] [1/2] There's a setting in Search Console [02:57:53] [2/2] Settings > General Settings > Change of address [02:59:11] Oh yeah [02:59:12] Do that [03:00:37] THANK YOU you're a lifesaver [03:24:49] Np 👍 [04:12:19] @Stewards Can someone delete this Wiki it’s on WikiTide and I moved it back to Miraheze https://icarly.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page [04:12:24] Thanks 🙏 [04:16:33] I want the WikiTide Wiki deleted [04:25:56] This is an @Site Reliability Engineers question actually [05:28:16] Deleted [05:28:29] Why the double ping, it was already pinged above. [05:30:05] That was Stewards when I pinged it [05:30:21] I suppose it was edited to SRE? [05:31:24] oh [05:32:40] yeah [05:42:41] Thank you so much @cosmicalpha [05:43:05] I had to do it on this server since the WikiTide server is gone [05:46:03] Yeah... and no problem, its all the same now anyway. [08:37:46] Hello all, where can I find the special page that I can keep track of all the requests being currently processed? [08:38:24] I need this because I want to see the progress for my application, and for security I cannot log in with my account on the device I’m usin [08:38:27] Using* [08:40:20] [[Special:RequestWikiQueue]] [08:40:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue [08:40:26]

[08:40:53] All those with an "Unreviewed" or "On hold" status are still being processed [08:43:32] Thanks a lot. [08:44:12] Thanks, I really appreciate it. [08:47:26] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218480735787417702/IMG_2902.png?ex=6607d19d&is=65f55c9d&hm=3f39fdbd665c426f02262658d02a2599824f4a62640855f993108fc9d14faa52& [08:47:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218480736223498300/IMG_2900.png?ex=6607d19d&is=65f55c9d&hm=3c7a57700f277ab0fd8770d089df02b21f83c615cbd6a9582b81a655583e15cc& [08:47:45] Mine is yet to be processed after an update. May I know when will it be passed over? [08:49:12] it's whenever the creator has another moment in their day really, mainly brandon as first responder [08:49:39] Got it, so I’ll wait for their time shift. [08:50:17] I think the main trick is that you're using meta to stand in for what is actually miraheze [08:50:31] and that may cause confusion with meta which is purely an administrative wiki for miraheze the actual host [08:51:08] Got the point. So Metaheze stands for the complete wiki farm system [08:51:39] miraheze is the complete wiki farm yes [08:51:51] <.labster> ^^ another point for the rename [08:51:53] Thanks. [08:52:04] So actually they got renamed? [08:52:25] <.labster> No, we've been talking about renaming the service for a while, that's all. [08:52:33] Ohh okay [08:52:40] <.labster> The URL of the approved wiki will stay the same, unless you ask for it to be changed anyway [09:43:08] what? [09:50:15] I think this page should be deleted. [09:50:20] :ThinkingHardMH: [10:16:18] Why? [10:16:42] <.labster> broken English, I assume [10:18:01] Better fixing it up then deleting [10:36:49] `Meta:Policy/zh-hans` should be deleted. I think `Meta:Policy` can be moved to `Meta:Policies`, and links to the policy pages of Meta can be listed there. [10:46:25] I think we should prevent using `zh` though. [10:49:46] Why? [10:51:13] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328838 [11:32:39] what's the point of Meta:Policy page? what it should have? not to mention, shouldn't policy pages be created and edited only by Meta admins and stewards? [11:42:52] A very technical problem. I can't determine whether this is a good choice. [11:47:11] [1/4] anyone knows what resolution google bots' smartphone emulator uses? [11:47:11] [2/4] incredibly annoyed by styling difference [11:47:12] [3/4] my phone seems to be around 390px when I test on desktop [11:47:12] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218525972601770105/IMG_20240316_144439.jpg?ex=6607fbbe&is=65f586be&hm=475ba3cb73858c025364a967c98c86b01066744157a33f543b3ecd3d8340ff5b& [11:55:28] There's a list of smartphones when you inspect elements [11:55:36] Google bot use that [11:56:11] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/crawling-indexing/mobile/mobile-sites-mobile-first-indexing [11:56:44] Problem is, that it's different for almost all phone types [11:57:11] Yea, so that's why responsive skins exist just to solve this problem [11:58:26] gallery packed mode can be used to auto-fill empty spaces [12:00:16] gallery is a no for me [12:12:46] [1/3] Any thoughts/opinions? [12:12:46] [2/3] @theoneandonlylegroom [12:12:46] [3/3] (apologize for the ping) [12:17:25] I have no idea [12:47:21] [1/2] i don't think this is how it's supposed to look [12:47:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218541112881582130/CffO0Rh.png?ex=660809d8&is=65f594d8&hm=672e4ec1ae785c6880a36e37dbfdbfa494b864f0bcfe2cefa9f2ef9880f869ce& [12:48:16] it's a template - use it on another page w/ filled up parameters [12:48:33] the parameters are explained at the end of that snippet page [12:48:59] also I'd appreciate people stop pinging me indeed [12:56:35] I’m so sorry! [12:56:43] Thanks a lot! [17:30:33] [1/3] I opened #What other info do I need to include? - my wiki request form got a message telling me to include more info, but I can't figure out what? [17:30:34] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218612384772657243/Screenshot_2024-03-16_at_1.png?ex=66084c39&is=65f5d739&hm=fe2e9902f2b698bc63c23fb90ace9687ef16d00907905589c273319549347f23& [17:30:34] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218612385032700096/Screenshot_2024-03-16_at_1.png?ex=66084c39&is=65f5d739&hm=afaf0240ac46dd5b6f2c90d0ae255adf53cb20c05b041102541144472698c1d7& [17:32:03] You should include more details on what type of content your wiki will contain (i.e. its scope) [17:32:51] seems like there's enough information [17:33:24] isn't its scope the canonical information from Ars magica? do I need to get more detailed than that? [17:35:14] approved [17:35:40] Different wiki creators have different standards on what's approvable; OrangeStar (who is a current wiki creator) has approved as is, but it never hurts to include more info [17:35:52] ty :) [17:35:56] It got put on hold, and BWM is out for a while, so no-one noticed your response [17:36:02] that's probably what happened [17:36:06] I just genuinely cannot figure out how I would include more info [17:38:25] Elaborating on the different types of countries, key figures, etc. is a good start to keep in mind if you decide to submit another wiki request in the future; in this case, adding more info to the request wouldn't help as it's already been approved [17:38:52] [1/2] how do fix this? [17:38:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218614477079969832/5ncvOAz.png?ex=66084e2c&is=65f5d92c&hm=10ec3358f99efae6c40b3731660f400ac8993a7e5becc5d75dd154db78750190& [17:48:28] I think the message is pretty clear, the `src` must not be empty [17:49:01] you'll have a better chance at getting help if you tell us what you're trying to do and what you expected [17:50:20] [1/3] if you created TemplateStyles page, you should link it in src [17:50:20] [2/3] [17:50:20] [3/3] if you have styling in Common.css, then you don't need TemplateStyles tag [18:03:08] [1/4] how do I make templates that can have multiple options? [18:03:08] [2/4] I.E. I want to allow people to put in a sourcebook and a number, displayed as: [18:03:08] [3/4] [Sourcebook:Number]. [18:03:09] [4/4] How would I make that? [18:04:20] [1/4] And can I make it so: [18:04:20] [2/4] - there's a selectable drop-down menu of sourcebooks [18:04:21] [3/4] - they always auto-link to the page of the same name [18:04:21] [4/4] - multiple strings would produce the same displayed thing? [18:13:46] Unrelated question: is there a way to make everything in a category automatically also display in certain parent categories? [18:25:53] Not that I know of [18:26:21] ah, horrible : ( [18:27:53] The closest you can do to a dropdown menu is to have a parameter that's wrapped in an internal link (e.g. `[[{{{1|}}}]]`); that way, multiple pages can be represented, but each page number has to be typed out manually [18:27:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%7b%7b%7b1 [18:46:11] Note to myself... Never put .js code in .css code. [18:52:42] What's the best place to make feature requests? Phabricator? [18:53:57] Can you give a brief idea of what the request is? [18:58:19] so how do i code for a template w/ a variable [18:59:07] I mean, variables in templates are `{{{...}}}` [18:59:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b... [18:59:34] so how would that work in context? like, how would I make a template that has that? [18:59:47] On my Template:NAME page, what would I include? [18:59:50] you know how templates work/are coded? [19:00:24] only vaguely [19:01:58] [1/6] if not, I suggest to check this artcile first [19:01:59] [2/6] [19:01:59] [3/6] other handy things used in templates are magic words [19:01:59] [4/6] [19:02:00] [5/6] also your description is too vague (to me at least) [19:02:00] [6/6] it's easier to tell knowing what exactly you want template to do [19:04:30] more advanced template behaviour might require JS or Lua coding [19:04:46] [1/3] okay so I want template to display as: [19:04:46] [2/3] [{Sourcebook}:{Page #}] [19:04:46] [3/3] Where {Sourcebook} and {Page #} are both variables. Optimally, {Sourcebook} would also link to the page of the same name [19:04:54] How to make text of the tabs all in one color? [19:05:06] CSS [19:05:09] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218636191973249277/Screenshot_20240316_190246.jpg?ex=66086265&is=65f5ed65&hm=62c57d35b875f6197d28f2e17f70ef1d52d20cee624ece5cdc7f38d0c8633a06& [19:05:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218636192258457600/Screenshot_20240316_190226_com.opera.browser.jpg?ex=66086265&is=65f5ed65&hm=88adef500748b5c20d1235e2cce42e26f767d1561e20791faa3409a05b44ecbe& [19:05:25] Be specific [19:05:48] I can't remember all Vector classes lol [19:06:00] what would I write to make that happen [19:06:34] exactly w/ these brackets to be visible in the text? [19:08:31] not including the {}s [19:08:53] [1/4] '''A little thank you...''' [19:08:53] [2/4] for {{{1}}}. [19:08:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [19:08:54] [3/4] hugs, {{{2}}} [19:08:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b2 [19:08:54] [4/4] okay okay [19:09:24] How do I de-anonimize those parameters [19:09:48] [1/3] `[/nowiki[[{{{1}}}]]:{{{2}}}]/nowiki` [19:09:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%7b%7b%7b1%7d%7d%7d [19:09:48] [2/3] `{{{1}}}` and `{{{2}}}` are "anonymous" parameters [19:09:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [19:09:49] [3/3] so on normal page you type `{{`templatename`|`sourcebook`|`page #`}}` [19:09:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%60templatename%60 [19:10:04] [1/6] '''A little thank you...''' [19:10:04] [2/6] for {{{reason}}}. [19:10:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7breason [19:10:04] [3/6] hugs, {{{signature}}} [19:10:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bsignature [19:10:05] [4/6] Within the template, we use {{{reason}}} and {{{signature}}} to identify each parameter, instead of a number. To pass these parameters by name, identify each parameter when passing it: [19:10:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7breason [19:10:05] [5/6] {{Thankyou|signature=Me|reason=being who you are}} [19:10:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Thankyou [19:10:05] [6/6] groovetastic okay [19:10:11] yes [19:10:27] I suggest to read guides carefully [19:10:41] they have pretty much all info [19:11:53] [1/2] also this would be handy for you too [19:11:54] [2/2] [19:12:17] [19:14:25] [1/2] how do I get it to wikilink? [19:14:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218638521200414860/Screenshot_2024-03-16_at_3.14.13_PM.png?ex=66086490&is=65f5ef90&hm=dc8d3d30949e7dc87bccb9c7bccc3829078b6b80cbdae42497496d4b82df32e5& [19:14:36] I want ARM5 to be actually linked to the page ARM5 [19:15:18] try `.vector-menu-tabs .selected a`, and `.vector-menu-tabs .selected a:hover` maybe [19:15:37] try `.vector-menu-tabs .selected a`, and `.vector-menu-tabs .selected a:hover` maybe [20:10:22] ? [20:13:08] Can you link your wiki so I can check? [20:15:02] https://arsmagica.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Source [20:17:55] Ok I have an idea of what to do [20:17:59] I need to make a Lua module to do this [20:19:01] Would removing a left bracket from the very left and adding a right bracket to the very right do anything different? [20:19:25] already tried that [20:22:38] [1/2] ```^{{{#invoke:Source|wikilink|{{{sourcebook|}}}|{{{sourcebook}}}}}:{{{pages}}}]/sup```
[20:22:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23invoke:Template:Source
[20:22:38] [2/2] I think you forgot a pipe |
[20:23:56] meep?
[20:25:27] oh i see
[20:28:49] @testytester problem almost fixed
[20:30:31] [1/5] @testytester I think the template should be working
[20:30:32] [2/5] I created these pages when testing, could you delete them?
[20:30:32] [3/5] https://arsmagica.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Arguments
[20:30:32] [4/5] https://arsmagica.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Source/link
[20:30:33] [5/5] https://arsmagica.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Collei/sandbox
[20:32:55] huzzah! ty :)
[20:33:32] Np
[20:46:46] how do I include blockquote-type formatting ?
[20:47:19] [1/2] oh, blockquoted text goes here/p/blockquote.
[20:47:19] [2/2] cool
[20:47:33] Yea
[20:53:12] how do i include an indent in a template?
[20:53:36] [1/3] such that something displays with an indent:
[20:53:36] [2/3] text
[20:53:36] [3/3] - like this
[21:03:36] [1/3] ```Text
[21:03:36] [2/3] :More text```
[21:03:36] [3/3] should work; if you need it to be indented more, just put more colons before the indented text
[22:07:39] Hey, random question. Is there a way to apply a skin specifically to only one page, independent of the rest of the wiki?
[22:08:35] I’ve seen some wikis hosted elsewhere that do this (SCP is a good example) but I don’t know if it’s possible to do on Miraheze.
[22:08:56] there is an extension with that functionality, will need to look it up
[22:09:28] I thought there might be, but I’m having trouble finding it 😭
[22:09:38] [1/2] ah
[22:09:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1218682617348755516/image.png?ex=66088da2&is=65f618a2&hm=2fc85991b69b9fa918f4305e44b2bfda6d6ff25c1a4c1da1d5054d87777deb90&
[22:09:45] parser hooks tab
[22:09:46] AH thank you!!
[22:10:10] np, good luck
[22:10:35] I’ve been thinking about making my wiki’s main page an old-school splash page. I think it’d be fun to try …
[22:10:51] worth a go, nigh endless opportunity to experiment
[22:11:11] although reception can attest that I at least have managed to brick my wiki several times in earlier years doing it >.>
[22:11:26] That’s why I chose mediawiki! It’s kind of a pain in the ass but it seems way more flexible than a lot of other types of site builders
[22:11:38] yeah 😭
[22:11:49] it's heavy weight and imo not the right angle to make a more static site but if the wikiness is up your alley by all means
[22:12:31] I’m kind of a weird case where it’s probably going to be mostly-static, but for my use case I think a wiki is just hands down the best way to organize information
[22:13:18] I’ve tried other methods commonly used and … yeah, wiki is the best. Hands down
[22:13:20] worth a go and hard to beat for experimenting with little real technical knowledge required
[22:15:00] For reference, most other rp sites in the same genre that I’m aiming to develop use … like, either all of their info strewn haphazardly onto a discord server, tumblr blog, across several google docs with no interlinking, or all of the above
[22:15:06] It is. A nightmare
[22:15:33] Or like, all of the above And a forum. I’m like alright fuck that. No way lol
[22:27:52] yeah I'd recommend a mediawiki setup over all of those
[22:28:01] at least if there is any actual depth to the content
[22:28:19] forum on its own properly configured maybe but inferior to wiki imo
[22:42:06] raidarr rotates names on here more often than I do on IRC
[22:42:18] damn what's this NBC peacock thing by my name it looks cool
[22:42:29] my Board Member role icon
[22:44:49] Yeah, great design by @.labster
[22:45:53] <.labster> it's an okay design by me, but if you're strutting like a peacock
[22:54:25] I do like the Icelandic/Faroes ð
[22:55:45] Quick question; how long does it typically take for Pageimages to select an image for a page?
[22:58:44] <.labster> Raidarr's current name is also my suggestion, Ragnarr Loðbrók was a famous Viking raiderr
[23:03:22] I know. Seen the whole series
[23:04:12] Actually, is it supposed to take a lil while to find/select one would be more relevant for me rn
[23:04:29] it’s a fun one for Board
[23:04:34] kudos to Lab
[23:04:48] Lab = humble
[23:05:01] Good chair/man
[23:17:46] <.labster> Is anyone here on a wiki that's using Wikibase a lot? I see 371 wikis have the Wikibase client extension installed.
[23:21:28] <.labster> I'm actually tempted to make a #wikibase channel because it's an interesting but complex topic
[23:24:03] A thread would likely be better
[23:25:04] <.labster> A thread would be worse than doing everything in #general
[23:28:18] [1/10] ArticlePlaceholder: 53
[23:28:19] [2/10] InterwikiSorting: 48
[23:28:19] [3/10] PropertySuggester: 35
[23:28:19] [4/10] UnlinkedWikibase: 6
[23:28:20] [5/10] WikibaseClient: 371
[23:28:20] [6/10] Wikibase EDTF: 44
[23:28:20] [7/10] WikibaseLexeme: 50
[23:28:20] [8/10] Wikibase Local Media: 71
[23:28:21] [9/10] WikibaseQualityConstraints: 70
[23:28:21] [10/10] WikibaseRepository: 330
[23:29:25] All Wikibase dependent extensions
[23:32:20] <.labster> I wonder how many of those installs are only to make Wikipedia template imports work
[23:34:23] What’s this Wikibase thing?
[23:36:35] <.labster> basically graph structured data that can be integrated into mediawiki
[23:36:49] <.labster> The main one is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page
[23:37:23] Problem is that it doesn't seem to work as it does on Wikidata
[23:39:57] Does Miraheze support Blazegraph for Wikibases?
[23:41:27] <.labster> What is that I don’t even
[23:42:03] It's what supports SPARQL queries
[23:43:19] <.labster> We can send the queries but I don’t think we actually host wikibases themselves.
[23:45:57] I think we do, as we can build our own Wikidata like Databases}