[00:01:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> hmm, erm what other thing?
[00:02:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I've never done this before 😄
[00:04:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I could also just leave it like this :ThinkerMH:
[00:10:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [1/2] uses the `<pre>` element, the different text colours use different classes so you'd have to target those individually too
[00:10:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219437901817843742/image.png?ex=660b4d0b&is=65f8d80b&hm=ef772b3e7071d44764718ca2ba2e5b90965aa61540d46f0494ae78416d02bb48&
[00:13:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Could you copy that snippet in here?
[00:13:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> It's too small to read
[00:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [1/6] ```#content { background:transparent; }
[00:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [2/6] pre { 
[00:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [3/6]   background-color:transparent;
[00:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [4/6]   box-shadow:inset 2.75em 0 0 black !important;
[00:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [5/6]   border-color:black;
[00:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dvdexe> [6/6] }```
[00:19:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] Nice ... thanks. 
[00:19:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] I'll need to see what colours work best with a grey / dark grey background, for links, and text
[00:31:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandoncote> can someone help me -- a user went crazy and is trying to delete all my wiki
[00:33:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel, replying to brandoncote> For help battling serious vandalism post over in #cvt
[01:18:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the.king.cube> any ideas on how to try and make my wiki's homepage look good?
[01:18:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the.king.cube> https://arosi.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[01:18:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zeusdeegoose> looks fine imo
[01:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to zeusdeegoose> This
[01:19:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> I love the orange theme
[01:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> ❤️
[01:19:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> But yeah, its better than most wikis tbh.
[01:19:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the.king.cube, replying to zeusdeegoose> nah, its a little bit bland
[01:24:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to the.king.cube> here, look at this and feel better about yours [[mh:nyctocosm]]
[01:24:07] <wm-bot>	 https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nyctocosm
[01:24:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://nyctocosm.miraheze.org/wiki/>
[01:27:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zeusdeegoose> check this shit out
[01:27:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zeusdeegoose> https://darkwitch.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Dark_Witch_Wiki?oldid=8044
[01:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zeusdeegoose> it was sooooo bad lmao
[01:47:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to the.king.cube> Just use DevTools aka inspect element to see how they do it
[01:51:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to brandoncote> Who did exactly
[01:51:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> If this is about #cvt your wiki is fine
[01:51:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> https://jwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[01:53:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to koreirose> Considering they used the exact same wording it prob is
[01:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64, replying to koreirose> @rodejong , who deleted some pages in his userspace and was accused of mass-deleting the wiki
[02:01:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> simple misunderstanding
[02:01:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> yeah
[02:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to koreirose> Exactly
[02:01:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> wow new captcha is interesting
[02:01:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> all objects faster then the average human
[02:02:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219465888915394560/Ca08rLo.png?ex=660b671c&is=65f8f21c&hm=5cb29666ee1e0018100d8d107598124fbcc205ed7a4592785500788b5a818863&
[02:02:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to pixldev> lmaoo
[02:02:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> that's an interesting captcha
[02:03:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> I've gotten captchas like "select all edible objects" and I always think to myself that some of the non food items are theoretically edible but dangerous to eat
[02:06:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> oi what happened with https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Community_portals_on_new_wikis
[02:07:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to pixldev> Idk
[02:07:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Good question
[02:08:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I made a PR for it but @cosmicalpha thought adding another script to run on creation isn't a good idea
[02:09:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to agentisai> Yeah, I think it will happen when the new loadoutwiki project @originalauthority is doing is done.
[02:10:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Wheres the abolishment for Wiki manager btw
[02:10:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to cosmicalpha> gucci
[02:10:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> only
[02:10:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> not even 2 years later lol. tbh with how 2023 went no one is blaming
[02:11:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> also to OA, i highly suggest adding image licenses templates to the loadout...
[02:16:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> (yes im lazy)
[02:16:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] 💤 💤 
[02:16:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] 🛌 G'night
[02:17:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rodejong> same here
[02:17:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> night
[02:17:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> wait you're half way across the world why are we going to sleep at the same time 🤨
[02:18:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to pixldev> It's 3:18 am
[02:18:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> 10:18 lmao
[02:18:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> way too late
[02:18:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> i slep
[02:18:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rodejong> actually early
[02:19:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> and I thought I didn't sleep 😆
[02:19:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to rodejong> Hey that is the same time zone for me right now lol
[02:19:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to cosmicalpha> Too bed then
[03:18:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to johnmcgurkus> it's JS
[03:18:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to the.king.cube> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1219005794117222400
[03:27:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> @agentisai I'm just curious, you had told MiscChaos that DoL would be closed, why wasn't it closed? Did something change? To be clear, I'm not advocating for it to be closed, I don't have any issues with the wiki, I'm just curious.
[03:28:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> they complained, used some of their connections, and thwarted it
[03:28:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> we could've pursued it further but then Raidarr stepped down and we focused on other things
[03:28:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> that wiki is technically in violation of the Content Policy I believe
[03:29:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> a Steward brought this up but I'm away for a while so I won't be backscrolling
[03:33:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Alright
[03:33:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> I don't think the wiki is very bad
[03:33:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> But I understand that the CP has to be enforced
[03:35:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] is that the text game wiki one?
[03:35:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] there always were some complaints which were proved to be false
[03:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I don't remember what that wiki is
[03:38:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> https://degreesoflewdity.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[03:38:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yes that
[03:39:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Yea
[03:39:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> [1/3] It's obvious that it has some questionable themes and that the game devs & wiki editors just have this as a legal disclaimer
[03:39:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> [2/3] > This work of fiction contains content of a sexual nature and is inappropriate for minors. All characters depicted are at least 18 years of age. Everything is consensual role play, and any animals are actually people in costumes.
[03:39:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> [3/3] But I personally think it's morally okay because it's fictional, whether it's legal or should be allowed on MH is a different question
[03:40:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I mean, yeah, you can get away with a lot by just saying "oh well, they might look underage but actually, they're 103932483431 years old"
[03:40:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> but what was flagged to me was a CP violation, not a T&S issue like last time
[03:40:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to agentisai> This has never been tested in court afaik because prosecution for lolicon without possessing real-life cp is very rare
[03:40:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to agentisai> Oh I see
[03:41:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> that involves visual reference usually?
[03:41:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yeah
[03:41:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Obscenity law
[03:41:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> The PROTECT Act codified a bit about lolicon but it was only about visual depictions and has to involve actual sexual activity not just text depictions
[03:41:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> And it also has to meet the Miller v. California definition of what is considered obscene, i.e. no artistic value etc
[03:43:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> btw I'm gonna be 30 this year but still look like I'm fucking 16 lol
[03:43:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Lmao I think that's kinda cool though
[03:43:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Because hopefully by extension you won't look old once you're like 70 or whatever
[03:46:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> lmao
[04:01:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> I have a weird question: is there a way to evaluate a {{subst:}} call the next time you click "Preview", so that you can edit the results of the substitution without saving?
[04:01:35] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/subst:Template: 
[04:01:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Subst:?action=edit&redlink=1>
[04:01:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Hmm that's an interesting question actually
[04:03:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> The use case: I'm fetching data from wikidata, and want to use it to generate a prepopulated infobox template.  But give the user a chance to check for garbage before saving
[05:25:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <liao_ipx> Thank you, the moderator who approved my wiki request! I now find my wiki is up running, it's really so nice.
[05:36:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Let us know if you need any help with it
[06:15:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <liao_ipx, replying to koreirose> Thanks before doing anything I'm changing the wiki settings to fit my needs if I need help I'll surely to ask there.
[06:40:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fath11> hello
[07:36:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verdessence> what even is a notoc
[07:38:04] <RhinosF1>	 Prevents the table of contents appearing
[07:52:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verdessence> oh
[07:57:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> I just created a support ticket regarding the change of MW settings please check
[07:58:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @li.ao please be patient
[07:58:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to rhinosf1> Thanks, I will wait for response
[08:03:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to li.ao> Which ticket
[08:04:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to rhinosf1> #Change settings of $wgImplicitGroups in #support
[08:04:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Oh
[08:04:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to li.ao> Please use https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org
[08:05:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to rhinosf1> Not for something a Steward has to do
[08:07:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Okay. I believe this is not an issue so I didn't make post on Issue traker
[08:08:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Ignore
[08:09:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Too slow train wifi
[08:09:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Message should have been deleted but it in a signal blackspot
[08:09:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> _complains about his phone signal a bit more_
[08:13:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to cosmicalpha> Ye i didn't see your message and didn't realise it was restricted and not just not there
[08:19:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to agentisai> this technical violation was never conclusive and depended entirely on how you looked at it
[08:20:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the basis came down to if you think the themes are too close to a conventionally underage setting or not regardless if the characters themselves were legally of age
[09:49:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> I checked with some archived webpages and noticed that Miraheze has changed its organizational structure in June the last year. Anyone can you tell me more about the story? I really wanted to know, thanks.
[09:53:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> in January actually
[09:53:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> June was a time when things gone bad and it seemed like Miraheze will be no more
[09:53:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if you refer to june you're basically asking about the drama™, but january is when things reformed and I'm sure there's a reference on that somewhere
[09:54:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [1/2] the big read on the matter is this
[09:54:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Reorganization_of_Miraheze
[09:54:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Was it a commercial company before the transition? I've checked with some information on the Wayback Machine that it was a UK company before.
[09:54:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to raidarr> Thanks, let me check.
[09:55:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it has never been commercial, however it was specifically a 'not for profit' entity
[09:56:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the old uk based organization was shelved after the events of june and the odd half year that followed was a time when wikitide was establishing itself (the foundation then being the one to take on miraheze) and when another miraheze entity was trying to form, but was ultimately superseded by wikitide through the above rfc
[09:57:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> as for what caused june I'll link to my userspace reference on the subject [[User:Raidarr/What's with the T&S stuff]]
[09:57:19] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/What%27s_with_the_T%26S_stuff
[09:57:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/What's_with_the_T&S_stuff>
[09:58:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the details of the email stuff aren't key, the backdrop and the ban itself are essentially what lead to a lot of volunteers at the time being very pissed and forking off to make wikitide
[09:58:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to raidarr> Make sense, that solved a mystery of mine as I saw a message saying WikiTide has been merged to Miraheze earlier this month when I was finding a solution to host wikis
[09:59:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to raidarr> Seems like a long-telling story.
[09:59:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> internet historian video levels of depth for sure
[10:01:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> So I scrolled down and found it got merged with WikiTide
[10:01:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to raidarr> isn't the one who was accused of plagiarism recently?
[10:02:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> so many were hit with those accusations and unfortunately  rightfully that I don't know anymore tbh
[10:02:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I intended that to be more general ie a historian not the one guy
[10:02:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yea just the name ringed a bell
[10:03:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there's only one essay youtuber I watch really
[10:03:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and he's obscure
[10:03:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> So finally the entire service moved to the USA that's right?
[10:03:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> hosted in US now yep
[10:04:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to li.ao> yes
[10:05:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I know. It's nice when I found Miraheze offering services on Google I just thought the service is more reliable among others until today I found some snippets on Wayback Machine
[10:06:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Like what I've seen they have a strong and robust structure and its reliable as I considered before
[10:07:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's much better than ever right now, tbh
[10:07:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yes it seems to be recovered well
[10:08:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> And let me change the topic can I set up DNS on Miraheze so I can use my own domain name for my wiki?
[10:08:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [[Custom domains]]
[10:08:26] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains
[10:08:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains>
[10:08:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Thanks, let me check.
[10:10:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Can I keep both domains for my wiki?
[10:10:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> The one provided by Miraheze and my own domain as another
[10:10:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] miraheze.org domain doesn't disappear, just gets redirected to custom
[10:10:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] so miraheze.org links will always work
[10:11:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> May I keep using both and don't set up automatic redirects
[10:12:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you don't set up redirect, Miraheze does
[10:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I can't tell that, SRE member is more competent at that
[10:13:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Got the point, thanks.
[10:18:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to liao_ipx> You're welcome. I was thinking of declining it though :ThinkerMH:  ... Nah! You have fun with it 😉
[10:19:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to .labster> Subst: Alows for preview, and Wikidata should be able to put the data in
[10:20:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zxxcx_> Are sitemaps automatically generated? or do you have to create them manually
[10:22:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> MediaWiki:Sidebar
[10:22:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> There are a few pre-set links in that menu, but you can add or remove them
[10:23:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to zxxcx_> Any specific you needed to be answered?
[10:23:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to rodejong> 😂 It's almost close to the decision of rejection but luckily it got survived in the end
[10:24:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> As said I will only use the site as it is meant to be used for. No usages beyond the purpose, for sure.
[10:24:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zxxcx_, replying to rodejong> Just asking if it's automatically generated or not
[10:25:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to zxxcx_> automatically
[10:25:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> I added an extension for creating sitemaps and did not configure it though, I suppose it will create automatically for me.
[10:29:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> left a welcome message on Meta for admin of new, music themed wiki, and he ignored it 🥲
[10:30:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> still wishing a good growth for his project
[10:33:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to zxxcx_> The sidebar is generated automatically when installed. You can change it, but it takes up to a week to come through due to system cache being purged once or twice a week.
[10:34:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/6] You need to use
[10:34:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/6] * header
[10:34:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [3/6]  link
[10:34:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [4/6] Links are formed as 
[10:34:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [5/6] url | name
[10:34:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [6/6] Wikipage | name
[10:34:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] i.e. see mine:
[10:34:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar
[10:41:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> The navigation bar is nice I'm also setting it up
[10:46:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the.king.cube, replying to pixldev> mkay
[10:47:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to rodejong> he was asking about sitemap
[10:47:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Oops, sorry. That must have crossed wires in my brain 😄
[10:54:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster, replying to rodejong> so the subst will disappear in the preview, replaced with the data?
[11:07:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> [1/2] Is miraheze disallow to deletion of discussion
[11:07:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219603029641138207/Screenshot_20240319_180617_Discord.jpg?ex=660be6d5&is=65f971d5&hm=c3f1d7c18d6367d25801606b5002b2e782656dc98202ae06bc5a1a7e2eb75250&
[11:18:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to .labster> It will show you the page as it would look like indeed.
[11:22:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to holocraft> [1/2] The wiki owner decides the rule of the wiki.
[11:22:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to holocraft> [2/2] But in general (like on Wikipedia) it is not apreciated to delete messages from talk pages. You can archive everything under a == Topic == on an archive page, which you have to link to.  So to me this is a completely reasonable request.
[11:22:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft, replying to rodejong> Ok
[11:23:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> But the wiki owner lacks of activity enough
[11:24:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to holocraft> [1/2] That doesn't matter. Once a wiki is created, the owner sets rules. 
[11:24:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to holocraft> [2/2] One can ask to change rules, but you can not decide to do it differently because you like to do it differently
[11:25:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Most users prefer archiving, so that is why it is a common practice of archiving complete discussions. It is not done to delete a comment inside a discussion. I think that is generally an accepted policy.
[11:26:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> And to avoid problems, it is best to follow the comments from the admin
[11:28:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I too have sometimes things I like to do differently, but as we say in Dutch: `We do not bake "I rather-cookies"`
[11:29:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft, replying to rodejong> [1/2] I'm an admin
[11:29:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft, replying to rodejong> [2/2] TheLogoEditer And fjattar are admin too
[11:32:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/3] Then you need to have a discussion between you guys. Open a Request for Comments if you have that on your wiki, and ask for a review of current policy. And ask if there is a positive feeling for a change.
[11:32:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/3] We can not get involved in that, We have absolutely nothing to say. And a Steward will only intervene if a user willingly makes problems. 
[11:32:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [3/3] So you can ask advice, but we can not get involved.
[11:33:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> If the RfC is denied, than you have to accept it, and move on, and do as is decided
[11:34:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> (I had to learn that my self on WIkipedia, as I too had a rebellious, "I want to do it my way" attitude) It ended in me getting blocked. That was a very important lesson.
[11:40:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> Should an user deleted some discussion on their user talk because of they don't like it?
[11:55:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> Ro, this wiki was suffering for months under that bureau
[11:55:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> he keeps supressing/banning everyone, no democratic methods go trough
[11:56:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> raidarr tried to raise the matter to stewards this time
[11:58:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Ah okay. I don't know the whole history.
[12:00:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft, replying to rodejong> Btw he was banned on netcord bot because of drama
[12:01:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> And also when i make a local election because the only bureaucrat doesn't enough activity, he deleted it
[12:01:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to holocraft> [1/2] Generally (on Wikipedia for example) a minimum time of 3 days is set before archiving. privacy violations or threads of aggression etc. can be hidden by stewards if needed. 
[12:01:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to holocraft> [2/2] But that is in General.
[12:02:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to holocraft> As I can read from earlier messages, you were told what your options are, so no need to ask me again
[12:03:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I suggest to keep everything in support thread
[12:03:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] it's not much use to drop updates here, in general
[12:03:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] especially when only few users know details
[12:03:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1001373934874284112/1219617261002690622 or this server
[12:04:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> #support
[12:04:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I mean, make a thread in support channel if you want to keep raidarr or stewards on how things are going
[12:05:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> but raidarr qlso told you to collect and compile evidences of that guy's misconduct
[12:05:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Ok
[12:37:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Are accounts created on my wiki unique across all Miraheze wikis?
[12:37:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> I found that making new accounts are still blocked by IP range blocks.
[12:38:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> And if I can just make accounts for my own wiki how to change the settings?
[12:48:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> Accounts are shared between all MH wiki's, and there is no way to change that
[12:51:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> I know. And where can I ask for unblock of my IP address
[12:51:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> It's still blocked and I can't make additional accounts for my wiki
[12:56:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> VPN, proxy and Tor IP are blocked by default from editing and registering account, it's a major anti spam/vandalism measure taken from Wikipedia
[12:57:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you'll have to talk to stewards about unblocks although I'm not sure what reasonings can be brought up here
[12:57:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you already have an account so you shouldn't have problems w/ using VPN/proxy while logged in
[12:58:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's generally not advised to create several accounts unless it's a case of loosing access or some kind of testing
[13:00:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> also it's usually encouraged to create accounts so people won't show their actual IPs in page histories, it sorta falls knto personal info
[13:00:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to li.ao> If you are the bureaucrat of a wiki, you can also remove a global block locally
[13:00:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Which you can do if you want to allow account creation
[13:01:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to globe_x> May I know where to go to do this
[13:02:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I make use of different accounts for security, currently I'm going to maintain the use of 3. For security reasons my iPhone uses a completely isolated environment which prevents unintended behaviours.
[13:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> stewards can create accounts if asked, in cases like China or Iran
[13:03:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to li.ao> Special:RemoveGlobalBlock
[13:03:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to globe_x> Thanks, I'll try
[13:04:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I know. Here in China Internet is heavily censored and behaviours are monitored, so I come to my company for unblocked access.
[13:05:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] I'm telling you
[13:05:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] you can ask a steward to create an account for you
[13:05:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to li.ao> Try Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist instead, my bad
[13:05:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> The internet on mainland china is stritcly controlled by CCP
[13:05:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yes, I know China is heavily censored, and I'm stuck in Russia
[13:05:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> I know that opening western website is illegal in china
[13:05:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> everyone know
[13:06:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to holocraft> Yes the party controls and censors everything online
[13:07:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <metal_pail, replying to holocraft> A less precise way of saying it, lol
[13:07:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> can we continue in #offtopic ?
[13:07:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Indeed. Russian people  are living in struggles even worse than in China.
[13:07:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft, replying to li.ao> I hope the CCP doesn't caught you using western websited
[13:09:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Sure, I will consider talking there seriously in the future if topics are changing.
[13:10:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> How are things there?
[13:12:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Thank you to whoever fixed Twinkle! It is a life saver ❤️
[13:31:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Please leave the politics out of this chat @holocraft
[13:32:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <holocraft> Ok
[13:40:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> you drink CoolCola?
[13:48:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to emicraftnoob> This is a support thread. Take it #offtopic
[14:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> [1/2] im having problems using float divs. when i collapse the TOC at the top, it leaves a huge gap at the bottom cause of all the float divs (ive drawn lines where they seperate). is there a way to make it so the text at the bottom adapts to the gap and fills the space when the TOC is collapsed?
[14:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219646927541506218/image.png?ex=660c0fb7&is=65f99ab7&hm=ef9fc7443a0c4aa964ee6b4eb5ea2a2b22ac18f8fb014c373784351edede624c&
[14:03:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Use a template like Clearleft
[14:03:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> can you explain that 😔 im new to coding/mediawiki
[14:03:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> moment
[14:05:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> `<div style="clear:left;">/div`
[14:06:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> this worked :0
[14:06:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> 😉
[14:06:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> thank you!!
[14:07:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> You're very welcome
[15:02:45] <Guest66>	 Hello where I can follow my wiki create request please ?
[15:04:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Which number has it?
[15:04:17] <RhinosF1>	 Guest66: what wiki did you request?
[15:04:41] <Guest66>	 RhinosF1 "les terres fracturées"
[15:05:06] <RhinosF1>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/42376
[15:05:22] <Guest66>	 RhinosF1  amazing thanks !!
[15:06:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> You're handling it RhinosF1?
[15:06:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Or do I?
[15:07:06] <RhinosF1>	 You
[15:07:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> On it!
[15:07:13] <RhinosF1>	 I'm just linking which it is
[15:09:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> Rhinos isn't wc I think?
[15:09:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> @Guest66 Quick question: You write that you didn't want any leaks, so it was all on paper. Is it still your wish to keep it private, or is anyone allowed now?
[15:09:43] <RhinosF1>	 Guest66 left
[15:09:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Ah
[15:09:53] <RhinosF1>	 So you'll have to respond on the req
[15:09:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> dam
[15:10:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to raidarr> Correct
[15:10:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> RhinosF1 is also waiting for an appointment
[15:31:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> What is the maximum duration for each session?  I just got signed out but the last sign in was on yesterday,
[15:35:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there's a bug w/ log outs, but usually happens when you visit a wiki you haven't before
[15:38:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Would this be fixed in the future?
[15:43:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Interestingly, I just visited a page of Meta and my session got dropped again.
[15:47:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lupe1512> [1/2] yo how do u remove this bar from the blockquote thingy
[15:47:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lupe1512> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219673568963723465/Screenshot_20240319-124620-030.png?ex=660c2887&is=65f9b387&hm=2d7d72a2b8b5821f424d826b7cbdf57aa06ed685da24ab5a67d1c96494c9bafe&
[15:52:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Link?
[15:55:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lupe1512, replying to rodejong> https://thedualhorizon.fandom.com/wiki/Coria to be perfectly clear, I wanna edit the wiki css so that the blockquote bar doesn't appear
[15:55:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lupe1512> i miswrote the link at first, sorry about that
[15:56:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> no worries
[16:00:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/5] But In principle, you could just replace blockquote with a Template:Blockquote
[16:00:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/5] In that template you put:
[16:00:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [3/5] ```::::''{{{1|}}}''
[16:00:39] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 
[16:00:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [4/5] :::::─{{{2|}}}```
[16:00:40] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b2 
[16:00:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [5/5] And in the text you use: `{{Blockquote|"Coria, a world with a green peerlessly important to our history. It is our duty as a nation to care for it."|Sem Melberres, President of Vangelia (5,647 CE)}}`
[16:00:40] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Blockquote 
[16:01:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> You would get the same result, but without any other markup
[16:01:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Or you could: @theoneandonlylegroom  incomming
[16:02:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to lupe1512> [1/2] just don't use `<blockquote>`, it has this style by default
[16:02:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to lupe1512> [2/2] better use what Ro suggested
[16:03:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> I've noticed some articles on Meta uses ```{{archive}}``` or ```{{RfC}}``` to show up a frame with tips icon. I also want to implement this on my wiki, which module does it use?
[16:03:33] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:archive 
[16:04:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Like if I want to put a similar tips on my Main Page stating the wiki is under construction
[16:04:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Thanks for help!
[16:05:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you know how templates work?
[16:06:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Currently no.
[16:09:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] Perhaps start by reading on https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Using_Wikibooks
[16:09:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] Here you learn everything about editing a wiki
[16:09:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Wikibooks works the same as your wiki
[16:09:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> It gives you everything you need to know
[16:12:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to lupe1512> If the indentation is too much, just delete a `:` to make it so
[16:16:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lupe1512, replying to rodejong> that worked, thanks
[16:18:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> You're welcome
[16:38:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Error 503 when visiting the site. What happened?
[16:39:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <varaxia> same thing here, wiki started working again after half a minute
[16:39:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Got it, probably the server is having issues
[16:39:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Yeah, guessing we bumped off a memory limit again or something, happens and self-corrects in most cases...
[16:39:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> Okay
[16:39:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Please ping the site reliability engineering team if it happens repeatedly/lasts more than a few seconds
[16:43:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <li.ao> It got recovered after some time.
[16:44:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dandy111> Hello, I was wondering where I could check the status of my wiki request.
[16:45:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lerariemann> how can i make a wiki have a background image? is it done via css or is there an integrated solution on miraheze?
[16:49:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to lerariemann> depends on skin
[16:50:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> some skins have setting for that, other require CSS
[16:53:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lerariemann> we use the Timeless skin
[16:58:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there's Timeless Backdrop Image setting in styling tab, buuuut from my expreince it's weak and it's better to stick to CSS
[17:28:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to dandy111> What is the name of your wiki?
[17:56:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <teaaxolotl> Is there a site or guide that can help with creating a wiki? Never made one myself, so I want to make sure I do it right.
[18:00:41] <BrandonWM>	 There are some guides somewhere on Meta but I'm not entirely sure where
[18:02:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64, replying to teaaxolotl> https://mediawiki.org may help
[18:02:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> For pages focusing on configuration settings, they're usually changeable via [[ManageWiki]]
[18:02:48] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki
[18:02:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <teaaxolotl> Thank you!
[18:02:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki>
[18:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <michael02022> For some reason one of my wikis got deleted, but I don't know the exact reason...
[18:29:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <michael02022> not sure where I could talk about it?
[18:30:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <michael02022> it was `tslpwiki.miraheze.org`
[18:40:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2, replying to michael02022> [1/2] There was a glitch a bit ago. The database for your wiki still exists. You can request it be undeleted on Stewards Requests
[18:40:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2, replying to michael02022> [2/2] [[Steward requests/(Un)deletions]]
[18:40:12] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/(Un)deletions
[18:40:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/(Un)deletions>
[18:43:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <michael02022> thank you
[21:37:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory> I’ve just made a namespace but when I go try move a page to it it doesn’t show in the namespace list
[21:42:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Might be the cache taking time
[21:43:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Needs to be connected to the database
[21:43:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to rodejong> If I now create a page in the namespace, will it actually create in the namespace even if there’s cache?
[21:43:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to rodejong> Wdym?
[21:43:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Only one way to find ou
[21:44:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Every page is added to a database
[21:44:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> How do I check if it’s actually in the namespace after I create it?
[21:44:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Each namespace has it's own entry too,
[21:44:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Hm. Maybe try a page with prefix selection
[21:45:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> prefix selection?
[21:45:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Maybe [[Special:PrefixIndex]]
[21:45:15] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex
[21:45:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex>
[21:45:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Oh wait
[21:45:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Just type {{NAMESPACE}} on the page
[21:45:38] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:NAMESPACE 
[21:45:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> hm?
[21:46:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory> Wdym?
[21:46:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It’s a Magic word that turns into the name of the namespace where it’s rendered
[21:46:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Type it into the page contents and preview
[21:46:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Should work
[21:46:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> (?)
[21:47:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to eatyourglory> What wiki btw
[21:48:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> Wait so I make a page named GPWR:Help and then I type {{GPWR}} on it?
[21:48:11] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:GPWR 
[21:48:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/GPWR?action=edit&redlink=1>
[21:48:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to Wiki-Bot#2998> Wiki bot you are not helping
[21:48:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> No
[21:48:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> then what?
[21:48:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Type `{{NAMESPACE}}` directly
[21:48:38] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:NAMESPACE 
[21:48:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> https://wiki.greatphermesia.com
[21:48:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> where?
[21:49:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> On the page in the custom NS, and preview
[21:49:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> Ok ok gimme a sec
[21:49:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> The namespace seems to show up in advanced search
[21:49:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://wiki.greatphermesia.com/wiki/Special:Search?profile=advanced&search=GPWR%3A&fulltext=1
[21:51:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> It works it does show GPWR
[21:51:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory> However I still can’t move a page to it
[21:51:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory> How do I clear that cache?
[21:51:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> It's there
[21:51:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> https://wiki.greatphermesia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=&namespace=3000
[21:52:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Help is already in it
[21:52:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to eatyourglory> Maybe try adding ?action=purge to the end of the url
[21:52:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> https://wiki.greatphermesia.com/wiki/GPWR:Help
[21:52:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rodejong> Issue is with Special:MovePage now
[21:52:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> Why do the simplest of things always work best…
[21:52:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory> Thx a lot
[21:52:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Lmao
[21:52:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> 😄
[21:53:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> For future reference that’s the mediawiki way of saying yo clear the cache for this here page and recook
[21:54:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eatyourglory, replying to pixldev> Aight thx
[23:07:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> I cannot believe that people have the audactity to make a request on SN to request the stewards review their wiki faster...
[23:07:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to globe_x> ☠️
[23:08:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> I'll handle that one don't worry
[23:09:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Already did :BanCatMH:
[23:10:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Maybe a little to harshly
[23:10:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> I'd check and consider rewording if that's the case
[23:11:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x, replying to brandon.wm> Lmk what you think
[23:15:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> rather too blunt for my taste tbh
[23:15:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> Ig it is just something I feel very strongly about
[23:15:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> I can reword
[23:26:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> [1/2] truly baffled right now. what is that little dot in the corner. it only shows up when the second (header) tab is selected
[23:26:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219789184458428537/image.png?ex=660c9434&is=65fa1f34&hm=841b05a18821a25ea76ebce6106021846df055dbab1497bb59f18852231b5bfd&
[23:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> i feel like im being pranked
[23:31:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> That's honestly really weird
[23:31:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Not sure though
[23:38:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the.king.cube> [1/2] how do they have these little things on timeless
[23:38:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the.king.cube> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219792180454097009/VQyjJS0.png?ex=660c96fe&is=65fa21fe&hm=41d6f80d084786965b9e5311fe510903e121c17f29bc98714d64383218bee58d&
[23:46:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> CSS
[23:48:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> https://pizzatower.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Timeless.css is where the customization happens, they've done something pretty unique to their use case so it might not hurt to join their discord server and ask there.
[23:48:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the.king.cube> k
[23:52:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> i need to change something about an extension, but the mediawiki page says to edit the localsettings.php. is there a way to do something equivalent to that?
[23:52:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332, replying to kaiunderscore> Yes, ManageWiki
[23:52:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> it should be on [[Special:ManageWiki/settings]] on your wiki
[23:52:54] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings
[23:52:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings>
[23:53:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] I'm taking an early off. 
[23:53:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] Tired
[23:53:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] 💤 
[23:53:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] 🛌
[23:53:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore, replying to bluemoon0332> its more like i need to add something into it
[23:53:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> ahh
[23:54:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1219796055789666455/image.png?ex=660c9a9a&is=65fa259a&hm=ed135f3ef4adf2c9a77fe6d315d5059e7f6da59dd778a04b19f44aad51bc89e3&
[23:54:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> in that case you can request that on [[Phorge]]
[23:54:03] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge
[23:54:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge>
[23:54:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> _if_ you can't find the setting on ManageWiki
[23:54:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaiunderscore> ohhh i see. ill just use the temporary solution for now