[00:00:33] <.labster, replying to jakeukalane> It wasn’t unnecessary, you came in here complaining about what we offer, when you have the power to fix it [00:00:45] ... [00:01:02] I don't [00:01:25] And I didn't came here complaining [00:01:38] Oh MER uses the DifferenceEngine [00:01:57] <.labster> If any of us were paid to do this it would be different [00:06:35] <.labster> On another topic, can someone ELI5 how safesubst is different from subst? I read the docs page and I don’t understand. [00:21:17] Use safesubst if you want to substitute inside the thing you're substituting [00:22:00] Wow, the mediawiki.org help page really doesn't help me that much. I think there's a nice table on enwiki that's a much better demonstration: [00:30:28] new ddos ? [00:32:50] oh bother [00:32:52] yes [00:33:07] Third DDoS in a day [00:34:58] So sad somebody's doing that just pathetic [00:40:29] lmao [00:53:38] not everyone can get a life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [00:53:50] miraheze is accomodating even if it's your spam traffic [00:54:04] butchered that word, oh well [01:50:21] [1/3] how did I fk up tabberneue [01:50:21] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220550099982090383/20240321_204814.jpg?ex=660f58dc&is=65fce3dc&hm=ac8c15f1bab1e5655ef7bca0860fb7ac31bdc167c67332fae851db55803be226& [01:50:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220550100410044426/20240321_205004.jpg?ex=660f58dc&is=65fce3dc&hm=b72bca37bd8ee5b4df8ffc294a8bac2dcc988ea2700fdbb51a9d40412285efba& [01:50:33] (Never used tabberneue before) [01:59:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220552471890628648/image.png?ex=660f5b12&is=65fce612&hm=7954e89941813c7dbb4a7079c9888c87738017941103f97ca683af0229ef72e7& [01:59:53] I cant seem to figure out how to make the top transparent lol [02:02:42] I'm gonna undo this back to pre-tabberneue for now, still gonna need help with it [02:03:26] <.labster, replying to francaisgrace> looks like there's a background gradient at the top [02:05:15] I assumed it too but I cant seem to figure out whats causing the background gradient [02:05:38] [1/4] ```css [02:05:38] [2/4] the name here{ [02:05:38] [3/4] } [02:05:39] [4/4] ``` [02:05:46] I cant really do anything [02:06:01] https://gbp.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [02:06:17] I have the CSS here(Do not mind the disorganization I know my way on the maze) [02:06:21] You should add tabs in the template itself [02:07:09] I should take it to support but that seems a little futile. [02:08:10] <.labster> Gosh that Common.css page is hard to read, all of the periods disappear [02:09:47] <.labster> The element with the gradient is #mw-page-base [02:10:06] Ikr, I have a headache trying to understand it [02:17:23] The Discord AI “people are talking about” notification said people were talking about “Fandom Sunset” and I got excited for a moment [02:19:41] Lmao [02:34:06] I check my emails everyday anyways. [02:34:42] I thought for a second you were talking about Miraheze getting AI technology. [02:37:10] [1/2] Gotta say i'm happy miraheze has better infrastructure to handle the recent spate of DDOS. [02:37:10] [2/2] and all along, miraheze has consistantly done awesome in that regard [03:42:16] [1/2] Is "Logo" in additional settings, the Wiki name in the top-left? [03:42:16] [2/2] I've seen almost every wiki on Miraheze change it, but I cant figure it out [03:47:18] [1/2] logo is the square one, used by majority of skins including old Vector [03:47:18] [2/2] new Vector (current default skin) uses Wordmark option [03:48:08] you need to upload file on wiki, open its raw file URL and copy that URL into setting's field [04:03:08] @cacklettaguy1655 out of curiosity, what happened to your old Discord account? [04:07:34] [1/2] im trying to replace this part [04:07:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220584631271686164/20240321_230713.jpg?ex=660f7905&is=65fd0405&hm=35c3fcc1c585d3a0df8ee9690a9c9a58d13cbcc205f08d123643a16e29ba1196& [04:07:54] where it says "The Goldenverse" [04:11:19] that's new Vector so it's wordmark, image must be horizontal [04:15:40] [1/2] It squished [04:15:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220586671783809155/1711080922999.png?ex=660f7aeb&is=65fd05eb&hm=231633b83f013bb9905774105334ddf85987f3402f6bb97f1b9cb88001719629& [04:18:58] Oh theres a width/height section [04:24:28] if image has blank space/margin better remove it [04:38:33] [1/2] ikr? [04:38:33] [2/2] How can I organize it without breaking things lol [04:47:23] <.labster> maybe something like `body:has(.page-Main_Page)` to define your background for that page? [04:49:37] <.labster> Yeah, that's how I did it before. https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1208207564584652820 [04:49:46] <.labster> I never did get around to writing that documentation page [04:53:15] who may I contact atm regarding a Miraheze account creation error? [04:59:46] [1/2] https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:SuperStreetKombat [04:59:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220597769459466310/image.png?ex=660f8541&is=65fd1041&hm=57c10d18634cd3546b6e26bad6d1306ac6442e9638cb0c716ae821ba29e18d27& [05:03:20] [1/2] also this happened when trying to save an edit (fixed now) [05:03:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220598666398535730/image.png?ex=660f8617&is=65fd1117&hm=1f3ecd439395bb9c62e96f3cfe8d6f132e748171fc950ae4b4a0fbfe4de0c80b& [05:08:49] What is the issue? [05:12:23] https://dontasktoask.com [05:16:20] I don't know if that applies here...they're asking where to contact someone [05:17:20] If it's a technical error, you can ask in #tech or create a thread in #support. If it's due to the IP address being blocked, you can ping Stewards here for assistance. [05:17:26] If it's neither, please clarify 🙂 [05:17:35] Well yes but "Miraheze account creation error" is a vague request and could possibly be answered by volunteers [05:18:29] Yes, though again that's not really a "don't ask to ask, just ask"-type comment [05:19:17] Alr fair [05:21:47] my problem is an IP block. I sent an email to TS and am following up on the error msg's redirect to here [05:22:21] ts@ probably isn't the correct alias there, it'll be `stewards[at]miraheze.org` [05:22:37] Also courtesy pinging @Stewards here [05:22:41] appreciated [05:23:13] Of course! [05:23:14] -@Stewards [05:23:33] If the block message says to email ts@ then ts@ is the correct email but otherwise it's not [05:24:27] doesn't hurt to try @koreirose [05:24:39] Yes - that's the case. Though there's a rare, rare occasion when ts@ is the correct alias [05:24:56] If you want to DM me details @thisisackley you're more than welcome to [06:02:25] [1/2] how do i make namespace names lowercase? like `User:` becomes `user:` [06:02:26] [2/2] i could already do it with the project and custom namespaces but what about the other ones? [08:45:51] Hello, what is the Globe user on my wiki? [08:46:40] Is this for management purposes across different wikis, or is this just another regular user? [08:47:24] a user lol [08:47:50] Oh I suppose it to be a management body😂 [08:48:11] Cause why did he add as an sysop for my wiki? [08:50:37] uh what [08:50:44] ? [08:50:56] can you link to your wiki [08:52:04] oh wow [08:52:10] something is very wrong in permissions it seems [08:52:14] https://liao.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers [08:52:20] ooohkay [08:52:25] managewiki needs a config fix [08:52:33] I saw this happen on another wiki before [08:52:34] There is a Globe user in my wiki [08:52:36] https://liao.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Collei [08:52:38] Ohh [08:52:38] Yeah [08:52:40] I can just give myself rights [08:52:42] you gave people the ability to just take over and do whatever [08:53:02] I just wanted to know if this is for system maintenance, or I will remove this user from admin list. [08:53:16] No it's not but you've misconfigured your wiki [08:53:18] I'll fix it for you [08:53:21] [1/2] deselect admin rights from this group [08:53:22] [2/2] https://liao.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/*#mw-section-group [08:53:34] unless he gave managewiki to admin I don't think you can fix it [08:53:40] which I guess would not surprise me [08:54:01] wait... I don't think any group on this wiki has managewiki [08:54:11] I gave myself literally all the rights and don't have managewiki [08:54:21] you didn't if you didn't give yourself bureaucrat [08:54:34] wonderful [08:54:37] Oh that's a good point [08:54:42] So you can give yourself everything but bureaucrat [08:54:43] Hm [08:55:03] [1/2] ok so again @li.ao, remove all group assignments of administrator from [08:55:03] [2/2] https://liao.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/*#mw-section-group [08:55:31] globe is not harmful but neither does he represent the platform at all [08:55:41] same applies to collei for that matter [08:55:56] and I as a wiki creator would not be authorized special permissions on local wikis [08:56:04] Yeah [08:56:12] This will affect admin rights may I know why is it necessary [08:56:14] in fact nobody will ever assign rights like that on a local wiki [08:56:23] this will not affect your rights whatsoever [08:56:23] To prevent users from being able to promote themselves to admin [08:56:31] your rights are already in place [08:56:33] Yea [08:56:42] you need to step back and learn how the permissions system works it seems [08:57:02] because what you've done is basically make a critical security hole that can quickly make your wiki absolute anarchy [08:57:29] [1/2] There's only Administrators allowed [08:57:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220657593924714557/image.png?ex=660fbcf9&is=65fd47f9&hm=41a95d7a865ce60af6a3b9e6abfe2a681de0e443a5bf087adc70a8ca78ff1d69& [08:57:35] and that is the problem [08:57:42] why are you giving everyone the right to add administrator to themselves [08:57:56] look at the top column, look at the group you are editing, look at what you've given that group the ability to do [08:58:00] `*` has the ability to assign and remove administrator to themselves and remove administrator rights from you [08:58:02] this is the managewiki permissions logic [08:58:07] This is not intended behavior, you've enabled it that way [08:58:33] It's been brought up before that there should probably be a change in ManageWiki to prevent people from doing this because it's a near daily occurrence that someone who's new to MediaWiki misconfigures their wiki permissions [08:58:58] kiju could fix it for you as a steward and is one of the small handful of users on the platform who should be able to act with advanced permissions locally [08:59:13] and note that he would not have to give himself any special rights to do it [08:59:31] users should never ever be able to make themselves admins out of nothing [08:59:41] Yeah [08:59:59] perhaps this needs to be made a managewiki override tbh [09:00:01] There was a wiki filled with spam that had this same issue but I was also able to give myself bureaucrat not just admin so I made myself bureaucrat and admin then deleted the spam then fixed the wiki's permissions lol [09:00:06] Yea it's been discussed many times before [09:00:18] there are several things on those lines that have been discussed [09:00:19] @li.ao What is your username? I can assign you a `bureaucrat` [09:00:27] I like options but this one is ooh [09:00:32] They have bureaucrat but don't understand the permission systems [09:00:45] Liao is mine [09:00:59] Giving `*` the ability to do things like assign admin or delete pages or block users etc would likely violate the anarchy clause of the content policy [09:01:19] the problem is that the ability to give yourself admin is assigned to everyone per the link above [09:01:25] his own permissions are 110% fine [09:01:26] Though in most cases it's unintentional and someone just not understanding permissions which is understandable because not everyone is familiar with the MediaWiki [09:01:44] it may be unintentional but it is frequent enough to be a valid issue regardless [09:02:00] it's not even mediawiki, it's just managewiki logic [09:02:05] Yea ik [09:02:21] Yeah but I mean that people don't know how user rights work in MediaWiki which is what ManageWiki lets them control [09:02:37] there is a primer somewhere, I wonder if [[ManageWiki]] does it justice [09:02:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki [09:02:38] [09:02:49] I know I was drafting an essay at one point about permissions but that was for more advanced cases [09:02:59] I'll explain that to you in DMs later. [09:03:25] yeah the managewiki page is useless on that so looks like I need to make a permissions primer [09:04:01] I removed admin rights from Globe but the issue with anyone being able to make themselves admin and remove admin from other users still remains [09:04:14] [1/2] I tried with an non-admin user and it can promote itself as admin, may I know what does the so-called "this user" mean? I can't see any user groups been shown [09:04:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220659291627851828/image.png?ex=660fbe8d&is=65fd498d&hm=0e6a76d388e851b8df3ed74532e286c9859ab406ece1b696b928889b1b2bc549& [09:04:26] what... [09:04:42] I just supposed if the listed user group can do things listed on the right [09:04:45] it's bad practice to ask for bureaucrat so I can fix it but I'm tempted [09:05:26] that screen is meant to give certain groups like admins the ability to assign other groups to people like being blocked, confirmation, moderator, whatever [09:05:42] 'can remove from self' can be used to give people the ability to resign from groups [09:05:59] [1/6] In MediaWiki, the  user group essentially represents all users, including anonymous users who aren't logged in. When you assign the ability to grant and remove admin rights to the  user group, you're essentially giving these permissions to everyone who interacts with the platform, regardless of whether they're registered users or not. [09:05:59] [2/6] Now, the reason why this is problematic is because granting administrative rights allows users to perform a wide range of actions that can impact the entire wiki. This includes editing protected pages, blocking users, deleting pages, and various other administrative tasks. [09:05:59] [3/6] If these abilities are given to anyone who visits the wiki, it opens up the potential for abuse or unintentional harm. For example, someone with malicious intent could easily promote themselves to an admin and wreak havoc on the site by deleting important content, blocking legitimate users, or making harmful changes. [09:06:00] [4/6] Additionally, allowing anyone to demote admins means that even legitimate administrators who are working to maintain the wiki could be stripped of their powers by anyone who happens to come across the site. [09:06:00] [5/6] In summary, assigning such powerful permissions to the * user group effectively undermines the structure and security of the wiki, as it allows anyone, regardless of their intentions or qualifications, to perform administrative actions and potentially disrupt the community or the content of the site. It's important to carefully manage user permissions to maintain [09:06:00] [6/6] the integrity and stability of the wiki. [09:06:02] changing any of this on the everyone group is extremely not recommended, same for users [09:06:52] It looks like 1108-Kiju fixed the issue [09:07:12] [1/3] 🤔 [09:07:12] [2/3] You have `bureaucrat` [09:07:13] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220660038251839554/image.png?ex=660fbf3f&is=65fd4a3f&hm=013eac1f5c1ed15bcf6a3b92416fbbc7b717de8e00b3c3767f02c745e2bdd5f0& [09:07:23] Yeah they do, I'm not sure why they think they don't [09:07:26] <.labster> "Below you can allow how this user group can assign/unassign other user groups." That wording is as clear as mud. [09:07:26] he always had bureaucrat, he's the one who opened the hole [09:07:27] I can't see any context saying the settings apply to everyone. So I need to remove these checkboxes first [09:07:53] the context is the group you selected to edit when opening Special:ManageWiki/permissions [09:08:03] everything from there is editing what the group you selected is able to do [09:08:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220660288227905546/image.png?ex=660fbf7b&is=65fd4a7b&hm=5e8f6ac7b98efefcf8c46de6fb9e44c255c499e5e3cdbfdcc0e3b8b8b3ec076b& [09:08:14] you have to specifically select (everyone) from that list to have gotten there [09:08:17] It shows you what the group is [09:08:33] To be fair it defaults to `(everyone)` and I don't think English is their first language so they may not fully understood what it means [09:08:47] managewiki needs a ux revision and/or guide [09:09:00] Yeah there's an open Phabricator task about that [09:09:03] [1/2] This does not show any context [09:09:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220660504591204382/image.png?ex=660fbfaf&is=65fd4aaf&hm=7572cd9c018cc082068dae5c8c140a0e51d2688922a858e3bbaa2fb992a77bb5& [09:09:05] this was a severe example but far from the first example [09:09:30] That is intended [09:09:38] It indicates proper configuration [09:09:54] Wait but [09:09:56] You can't change the settings? [09:10:02] I assumed 'does not show any context' more in the literal sense of not showing the context of changes [09:10:05] [1/2] oh [09:10:05] [2/2] Your account name is Liaochina [09:10:05] look at the username [09:10:10] that's an alt [09:10:16] Oh I see [09:10:17] he made it to test this affair [09:11:04] This one is not intended for having admin purposes, I have 3 accounts currently [09:12:16] Thanks these groups were removed just now before I take actions [09:16:41] Thanks for your help, I just figured out that the page should be entered by selecting the proper user groups, I might have not been noticed of this. [09:17:01] No worries, glad to help [09:17:41] [1/2] Yes this page should be used to enter the settings I might not be noticed about this before. [09:17:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220662678985637989/image.png?ex=660fc1b5&is=65fd4cb5&hm=f10cd9cba5905c944462681498b409ebd4c78e13cc03e068fd8cc6346b365ffd& [09:18:29] So this was my mistake. Again that's my apology. [09:18:51] It's fine, don't worry [09:18:59] Now you know what to do in the future [09:19:40] Yes I should be noticed about any preceding contexts before making changes. [10:44:22] Would it be okay if I renamed my wiki and make it serve a rather different purpose? It doesn't have much content in the first place and I've more so deviated to using it as a sandbox wiki if anything. [10:44:43] Yes but you have to get Stewards permission first [10:44:51] k thx [10:58:05] if you want to change subdomain tho you'll have to make phorge task for data base name change [11:24:04] ok [12:25:37] hello [12:29:34] i need help with permissions - if i want to restrict editing of pages to a non-admin user group, which permission do i give them and how do i protect the pages? [12:29:48] do i give them editprotected and set the pages as administrator only? [12:30:10] If you don't have any pages that need to be admin only, you could [12:30:20] You could also have a new protection level created [12:30:25] wait actually? [12:30:29] that would be super useful if i can do that [12:30:40] I mean, I see no reason why it wouldn't work [12:30:47] [1/2] we have a 'trusted users' role for users who are trusted to edit major pages but i dont want to give them perms to edit the front page, etc [12:30:48] [2/2] where do i do that? [12:31:16] You can change permissions in Special:ManageWiki/permissions [12:31:30] And assign editprotected to another group in addition to admin [12:31:35] ohhh okay [12:31:41] Just select whichever group you want on the first page [12:31:44] but theres no way to have a protection level between admin and autocofirmed? [12:31:56] how does autoconfirmed get applied btw [12:32:00] We can create extra groups [12:32:15] oh no i have an extra group, but theres only editprotected and editsemiprotected [12:32:31] You can have more [12:32:50] editsemiprotected is assigned to autoconfirmed and confirmed by default [12:32:57] editprotected to admin [12:33:07] It's fairly trivial to create more in between [12:33:17] im sorry im not sure im following [12:33:31] [1/2] am i able to create more options than this? or no [12:33:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220711960207949854/image.png?ex=660fef9b&is=65fd7a9b&hm=8b1a66cb7e89b6acc12a28f9f9f12a45e169003ff603fc934dea3a382b328783& [12:33:36] Yes [12:33:45] We can create additional protection levels [12:33:51] oh like miraheze staff can? [12:33:54] Ye [12:33:59] OO Ok, how do i request that? [12:34:13] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org [12:34:35] request features? [12:34:43] Additional protection levels might be a feature that could be added in ManageWiki [12:34:53] that would be so awesome tbh, ill put in a request for niw [12:35:26] Yes [12:35:50] i had no idea mediawiki even allowed this so im glad i asked [12:36:46] Maybe. [12:37:12] @bluemoon0332 might be able to develop that [12:37:44] ok hopefully i explained it properly [12:38:20] that's perfect [12:38:28] yay! [12:40:53] I remember there being some technical reason why that wasn't possible [12:41:03] I'll try to look into it but don't hold your breath [12:58:20] It does seem like a logical thing to have in ManageWiki, but then again humanlogic and computerlogic often don't quite align [14:39:56] @Site Reliability Engineers a moment? [14:43:32] for what [14:44:57] @bluemoon0332 I'll dm [15:35:16] [1/11] Just figured out the global IW prefix collides with possible ILL prefix: [15:35:16] [2/11] https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry [15:35:16] [3/11] ``` [15:35:17] [4/11] %% [15:35:17] [5/11] Type: language [15:35:17] [6/11] Subtag: mh [15:35:18] [7/11] Description: Marshallese [15:35:18] [8/11] Added: 2005-10-16 [15:35:18] [9/11] Suppress-Script: Latn [15:35:18] [10/11] %% [15:35:19] [11/11] ``` [15:35:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220757778100912230/image-6.png?ex=66101a46&is=65fda546&hm=6a82666269e441bae0ab1294c06415e0a694066ad353063994928643445400b5& [15:35:59] :ThinkerMH: [15:36:01] interesting [15:36:56] how about changing it to mhw (stands for `miraheze wiki`) to prevent this problem [15:37:37] That's still a valid language code format. [15:38:21] hm [15:38:23] wmh [15:38:28] [1/8] ``` [15:38:28] [2/8] %% [15:38:28] [3/8] Type: language [15:38:28] [4/8] Subtag: mhw [15:38:29] [5/8] Description: Mbukushu [15:38:29] [6/8] Added: 2009-07-29 [15:38:29] [7/8] %% [15:38:30] [8/8] ``` [15:38:47] or... mhww 😏 [15:38:52] 3-letter codes are ALL valid language code format. [15:39:29] （reply to ^) [15:40:22] [1/9] Perfect (nope). [15:40:23] [2/9] ``` [15:40:23] [3/9] %% [15:40:23] [4/9] Type: language [15:40:24] [5/9] Subtag: wmh [15:40:24] [6/9] Description: Waima'a [15:40:24] [7/9] Added: 2009-07-29 [15:40:25] [8/9] %% [15:40:25] [9/9] ``` [15:40:35] Let's just make a `miraheze` interwiki prefix as a fallback [15:43:55] `wmh` seems weird, makes it seem like directly wikimedia related, maybe just `mira` instead? that still pretty short and should be unlikely to clash with anything I would imagine? [15:48:45] Checking... [15:49:20] [1/2] No collision found in [15:49:20] [2/2] [15:49:45] We currently don't use script code in interwiki prefix. [15:49:53] Looks fine for now. [15:54:10] [1/9] Oh, very good collision [15:54:10] [2/9] ``` [15:54:11] [3/9] %% [15:54:11] [4/9] Type: language [15:54:11] [5/9] Subtag: git [15:54:11] [6/9] Description: Gitxsan [15:54:12] [7/9] Added: 2009-07-29 [15:54:12] [8/9] %% [15:54:12] [9/9] ``` [15:55:06] [1/9] ``` [15:55:06] [2/9] %% [15:55:06] [3/9] Type: language [15:55:07] [4/9] Subtag: doi [15:55:07] [5/9] Description: Dogri (macrolanguage) [15:55:07] [6/9] Added: 2005-10-16 [15:55:07] [7/9] Scope: macrolanguage [15:55:08] [8/9] %% [15:55:08] [9/9] ``` [15:55:26] brah [15:55:35] yeah that's good [15:55:38] [1/8] ``` [15:55:38] [2/8] %% [15:55:38] [3/8] Type: language [15:55:39] [4/8] Subtag: dcc [15:55:39] [5/8] Description: Deccan [15:55:39] [6/8] Added: 2009-07-29 [15:55:39] [7/8] %% [15:55:40] [8/8] ``` [15:56:48] [1/8] ``` [15:56:48] [2/8] %% [15:56:49] [3/8] Type: language [15:56:49] [4/8] Subtag: zum [15:56:49] [5/8] Description: Kumzari [15:56:50] [6/8] Added: 2009-07-29 [15:56:50] [7/8] %% [15:56:50] [8/8] ``` [15:57:13] Our Miraheze import was marked as started over 24 hours ago, but it appears to be still not completed (no update on the issue and wiki appears only partially imported). I'm just wondering, is this process just very time consuming (either system or admin's time) or did it run into some issue? [15:57:25] (talking about themanaworld wiki) [15:57:32] it seems to have timed out [15:57:37] probably ran out of memory [15:57:39] @reception123 [15:57:45] Should be all of the collided codes. [15:58:26] Ok, thanks. I hope our wiki isn't too large, heh. [15:59:48] I've pinged the admin that was doing the import, hopefully the import will resume soon [16:11:32] I don't have access currently. The only way to redo it is to do go to SQL.php and then do update import_requests (I think that's the name) and set status to pending where id = what it is [16:11:41] If not I'll get to it later today [16:11:41] Filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360792 . [16:12:36] no this is for the manual import you were doing themanaworldwiki, it exited with code 256 https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/808001911868489748/1220739173217206303 [16:13:08] Oh, right. You can restart it if you can [16:18:07] restarted the import [16:24:46] Thanks! [16:42:02] thorbjorn: are you online? [16:42:40] They are [16:42:57] I see your XML has some pages on the dev: namespace [16:43:31] these are not being imported because dev: is reserved as an interwiki link to our devwiki [16:43:35] just a heads up [16:46:06] MirahezeRelay: Yes. [16:46:30] just letting you know importDump.php is skipping these pages because of that [16:46:48] Oh, interesting. I'll need to check which pages those are. [16:46:49] if these also need to be imported we'll have to deal with these later [16:48:38] it is but we overrode it to allow us to use the `mh` prefix [16:49:07] changing the `mh` prefix would break a lot of links unfortunately [16:58:57] I'll be away now, will check in on the process later. Unfortunately we do seem to have quite a lot of pages with a "Dev:" prefix, so it'd be nice to know about a way to automate their renaming. [16:59:23] Might it be easiest by doing a regexp on the dump, for example? They could just be renamed to "Development:" or such. [17:00:15] feels like it could go wrong tbh [17:01:36] thorbjorn: There's probably a maint script to mass move these, you can move them to another namespace then make an XML dump of that namespace [17:03:46] Hello, can I delete my user profile on other wikis? These accounts were automatically created upon my visit. [17:04:17] MirahezeRelay: Sounds like a plan. [17:04:44] That just leaves links to those pages to be updated manually. [17:07:22] You can't [17:09:09] This means only the wiki admins can delete my profile that's right? [17:11:55] random people you see on your wiki are just other Miraheze users who stumbled on your wiki [17:12:25] the system (CentralAuth) automatically attach an accounts to each wiki a user visits [17:13:24] if you mean your own alt accounts, then now, it's impossible to delete an account in MediaWiki [17:13:32] only lock or vanish [17:13:54] No one can [17:14:08] Noted [17:14:19] Got it, thanks for letting me know. [19:24:54] I've been waiting like 3 days for a response back on my request, can someone help me? [19:25:24] link your request [19:25:28] check comments tab [19:25:37] maybe reviewer left a question for you [19:32:56] They asked for more details and I provided it but never got a response back, https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/42360 I think this link should work? [19:36:09] Sometimes, wiki creators forget about requests (with so many coming in each day, it's inevitable); cc @brandon.wm as the requestor who handled it initially [19:43:52] Been a busy time, I review requests when able. Apologies for losing yours in the shuffle, will take a look. [20:25:54] <_______________________________d> forgot how to request an interwiki link [20:25:58] <_______________________________d> :/ [20:26:12] It’s a bit messy right now [20:26:17] We used to have a role dedicated to it [20:26:24] But it was abolished [20:26:25] <_______________________________d> haven't really been on the 'heze in a while [20:26:30] The new system is to allow crats to do it [20:26:35] But it’s still being set up [20:26:55] So right now ask a steward on here or on [[SR/M]] [20:26:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/M [20:26:56] [20:27:04] Apologies for the inconvenience [20:33:29] Is [this](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:NewFiles?offset=&limit=500) a live feed of all image uploads? If so it is remarkably sparse [20:33:59] Only on Meta Wiki [20:34:15] Only meta's. You want https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:GlobalNewFiles [20:34:19] Which is semi live [20:34:31] ah yeah thats what I was looking for [20:34:59] Note: it does update via a job so it's not instant, it can be delayed at times [20:53:18] Who pinged me? [22:31:27] Approved [22:31:39] W, thank you [22:58:34] 💀 [22:58:38] so its real [23:02:51] Omg chat it’s miraheze [23:03:15] https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-no-more-caffeine-for-you-caffeine-coffee-hyper-gif-4588165 [23:03:36] https://tenor.com/view/omg-what-no-way-emoji-shock-gif-24390671 [23:03:59] Nooooo chat Miraheze had left Miraheze [23:04:05] miraheze is already gone... [23:04:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1220870760197914695/miraheze_has_ceased_operations.png?ex=6610837f&is=65fe0e7f&hm=73f057e3fe5e9505f5836caabd08d539d1e9d0ac53de1f20e3040aec3ee80791& [23:05:12] An omen [23:06:09] <.labster> Man, why don't Stewards ever do anything [23:06:23] Naaaaah that’s crazy [23:06:45] <.labster> No board elections, no interwiki privs assigned to everyone. [23:07:00] Speaking of which meta patrol log is so funny to me [23:19:35] interwiki wasn’t assigned?? [23:29:28] Not yet [23:42:36] I know this is probably a joke but i firmly echo this statement. [23:50:02] <.labster> It’s not entirely a joke. We don’t have enough trusted volunteers, and the ones we have don’t delegate [23:51:42] Lets start a revolution. [23:52:19] start an rfc for martial law [23:52:51] or just give everyone the ability to self-assign steward so they can help whenever [23:53:53] Yes, self-serve system. [23:54:12] Welcome to Walmart Miraheze [23:54:36] Huh [23:54:37] Does America have self serve or are you guys still in 1964? [23:54:40] today I identify as a steward [23:54:46] Anarchism! [23:55:10] as for self serve depends where and what tbh [23:55:23] Like the supermarket [23:55:30] It's an image I created that shows if Miraheze had shut down as planned [23:55:55] Of course, that was back in June [23:56:19] Oh, was that one of the options during rfc for the big scare that miraheze had? [23:57:25] It was, but the Miraheze Limited Board of Directors made an announcement that Miraheze would shut down long before that; they retracted it a few days later before being replaced by the WikiTide Foundation Board [23:57:45] New jersey dont even have self serve gas [23:58:07] New Jersey don't sound so new [23:58:19] This conversation might be getting a little #offtopic [23:58:27] still a couple states where self serve gas is illegal in parts [23:58:33] which yes goes straight into ot [23:59:31] <.labster, replying to tali64> It is but no one is asking help questions now [23:59:51] miraheze halp my wiki caught on fire what do [23:59:54] [joking]