thanks lol! [00:23:00] :) [00:25:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1222340645855694848/image.png?ex=6615dc6f&is=6603676f&hm=a221f2ed181811ec2c28b038ba4a3df549f01065d1e30a6762b16edf3fc82619& [00:25:29] the mw-collapsed doesnt work as intended [00:25:36] I cannot click the expand button [00:25:49] but the collapsible works [00:26:59] :confusion: [00:30:11] [1/4] Since it's a table, use [00:30:11] [2/4] `{| class="wikitable mw.collapsible" [00:30:11] [3/4] |+ Firearms` [00:30:12] [4/4] and the rest of your table. The [[collapse]] should appear with the Firearms table header [00:30:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/collapse [00:30:12]

[00:30:37] thanks, wikibot, but not quite what i meant [00:32:42] Can we eliminate wikibot [00:33:07] <.labster> No [00:33:29] We can. [00:33:34] sometimes he's helpful [00:33:39] Yes he is [00:33:48] :smilee: [00:36:06] You can react with 🗑️ to delete any Wiki-Bot message, unless you want to be like me and respond with "Thank you Wiki-Bot, very helpful" [00:37:12] does that count as Sarcasm? [00:37:39] Only when Wiki-Bot's not being helpful in that specific circumstance [00:38:01] Not working [00:38:06] Should I take this to support? [00:38:20] I should just use div class collapsible [00:38:30] collapsed isnt working [00:39:04] The class is specifically `mw-collapsible`; any variation on that may not work [00:39:31] Yeah, I made it shorter but this is what it shows [00:41:26] it only shows as plain text [00:41:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1222344747105124372/image.png?ex=6615e041&is=66036b41&hm=b0775c2704d75c703cd3cecfa860fea62de28e44d0ef501988d7b45c6050b8c9& [00:42:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1222344871143276544/image.png?ex=6615e05f&is=66036b5f&hm=f9b0a8f8c87c097751fdf59d9f2498d7b476ec170aaeda74c1bc71a26cc485b0& [00:42:32] ahhh [00:42:33] I get it [00:43:08] EUREKKA [00:43:21] :heademptybleh: [00:43:35] it works [00:43:36] :P [00:50:49] yay! [01:02:22] is there a limit to how many pages you can have in your wiki? [01:05:56] [1/2] Not as far as I know. [01:05:56] [2/2] Just look at en.wikipedia.org It has a few million [01:07:33] I don't think so [01:09:19] Technically no def not. just dont make useless spam pages and you're golden [01:09:32] ah alr ty! [01:09:44] no worrie 🔧 [01:09:45] our wiki is for our system and we have 4,000 alters so 😭 [01:10:00] won't be spamming tho dw [01:10:06] We have plenty of wikis with more [01:12:00] Critical Role wiki has 4300 [01:12:41] oooh [01:17:19] pages arent very expensive thouhg [01:17:29] large amounts of files are what cause issues [01:17:37] cough AVID [01:22:41] 64 GB of files [01:22:47] https://www.avid.wiki/Special:MediaStatistics truly impressive [01:22:51] and horrific [02:22:05] Technically, yes. You can hit the max number of rows in a database table 😉 [02:22:17] But that's likely to never happen [02:22:31] technically, within mediawiki* [02:22:35] MariaDB is seperate [02:34:43] i was curious about skins and got so lost and couldn't change it back for a solid 5 minutes DSFBSDJF [02:34:54] vector-22 beloved [03:58:45] [1/2] I'm trying to translate my documentation into a Cargo table but have no idea where to start, anyone able to help [03:58:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1222394355654852649/Screen_Shot_2024-03-26_at_10.58.06_PM.png?ex=66160e75&is=66039975&hm=338edcb44d4bed9b4916266ae887ee4274ecb4ea9f2f006299e1e8ee280303b1& [04:01:04] [1/2] attempting to set up something similar to how the OW wiki handles their abilities using cargo [04:01:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1222394936452972614/Screen_Shot_2024-03-26_at_11.00.39_PM.png?ex=66160eff&is=660399ff&hm=b44abab8856e118aa27dd86341d3e6c0c65aab318432b1183d23d2f1db5f4d31& [04:21:21] why they need a whole ass cargo for abilities lmao [04:33:23] probably because they have like 18 different variables [04:34:30] /looks at templates on gogig/ [04:34:40] I dunno [04:35:21] a:SCbabbyokand: [04:35:29] Listen I just think they’re neat and efficient lol [04:36:15] Easier for me to update the cargo then to go and change it across who knows how many pages or make 100+ templates for all the moves [04:39:55] you mean, you are using data for abilities outside of section/page that describes abilities in the first place? [04:55:21] Each page has 7-8 of these abilities listed and all their corresponding attributes need to also be displayed [04:55:41] already tried using tabbers but it got incredibly messy [04:56:31] I guess I could try and get fancy with a sort of full page length tabber within a tabber [04:56:51] [1/2] I was eyeing using cargo for my first wiki, about music, because SPcodex (another music wiki) relies on cargo probably on 80%, but it also resulted in wiki being broken on 80% when cargo broke lol [04:56:51] [2/2] also upon further editing, I realized info bits on my wiki are more complicated than on their [04:57:22] I ditched tabber and did a thing similar to what Dota2 wiki has [04:57:27] I just don’t understand cargo well enough to use it correctly in the first place [04:57:32] What do they do [04:57:43] or wait, that's not the case, sorry [04:59:08] Well, I will try the nested tabber tomorrow at least [05:35:37] nested tabber is really an annoyance, from my experience [05:37:54] [1/3] unless I still misunderstood, here's what I meant, it's a fake tabber [05:37:54] [2/3] the difference from Dota2 wiki is that their fale tabber is Lua based, and mine is just ... yeah [05:37:55] [3/3] [06:56:54] @Site Reliability Engineers something isn't very happy [06:57:21] <.tounae_official> I met error 503 in my wiki [06:57:22] <.tounae_official> Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp41.wikitide.net at Wed, 27 Mar 2024 06:56:50 GMT [06:57:38] yeah it's not working [06:58:09] :moonch: [06:58:14] Yes, many things are broken [06:58:16] miraheze down [06:58:30] bru is the site down again [06:58:57] <.tounae_official> overloaded? [06:59:38] could be another ddos [07:00:30] Incident began at 06:54 and entire site was down completely by 06:56 [07:00:35] It's 07:00 my time [07:01:38] None of the usual graphs look upset but I got to leave for work so I can't help SRE [07:02:17] nobody else seems online now [07:02:21] whoa, what happened? where am i? [07:02:51] I'm 503ing like crazy, man [07:04:31] Man why does it have to go down right when I get a burst of inspiration [07:05:37] <.tounae_official> you can write it on Word or other place [07:09:22] or notepad [07:09:43] or notes, if you have only phone lol [07:10:53] <.labster> Phorge is still up, so it's just the wikis that are down. [07:11:49] I’m getting the same error too. [07:15:39] cp <-> mw is dead, can't see what has obviously blew up though. PHP looks fine, individual server status is fine. [07:16:11] everyone is sleeping :ThinkerMH: [07:16:18] 🥱 [07:19:34] Dunno why it’s always so fragile to the point 503s always become a thing…. [07:28:54] well, it used to be worse tbh [07:29:05] now something exceptional is going on [07:30:40] [1/4] I have to go but before I do, my wiki seems to be down: [07:30:40] [2/4] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp36 at Wed, 27 Mar 2024 07:29:56 GMT [07:30:40] [3/4] Varnish XID 222353549, serving 82.44.61.26, 127.0.0.1 (your IP!). [07:30:41] [4/4] ): [07:31:16] We know [07:31:23] We don't need individual reports [07:31:29] Just an SRE online [07:32:01] we still can't contact outside of discord? [07:38:37] best of luck getting it fixed guys :teal_heart2: [07:40:06] Nope [07:40:19] I've been asking for it for years [07:40:51] sigh [07:41:30] there needs to some kind policy on that [07:41:51] like internal SRE regulation or something [07:42:08] like, obviously it's needed [07:42:15] but it also needed [07:42:22] idk how to explain [07:42:22] We've never held SRE to any requirement to respond to outages. [07:42:44] I know what you're saying [07:43:31] I work in a [redacted] and there loads of regulations and documents on what IT has to do, how to act, how fast respond etc [07:43:45] I'm a software engineer by day [07:44:20] My regulations are a few thousand pages long [07:47:03] Seems like Miraheze is down [07:47:17] Read up [07:47:18] so true lol [07:47:47] sorry, didn't know it was a MH-wide problem. Good luck on fixing it! [07:51:51] I haven't made a request yet. I'm waiting until after school (later today) so that I have time to sort it all out. [07:52:29] Ah damn [07:52:33] Good luck with fixing it [07:53:34] The fastest you fix it the better. 😉 [07:53:50] thank you [07:54:01] true dat [08:02:42] Well they're volunteers [08:02:49] It's hard to imagine them having the ability to respond [08:02:54] Like they're probably asleep [08:03:03] It's midnight for me idk what time it is for others [08:13:06] umm. are we down? [08:13:21] well shit [08:13:46] better now than peak time huh [08:14:49] Yeah except I'm on a plane right now. This is a horrible time for me. [08:14:57] I'm looking though [08:15:48] oof [08:16:50] We may be under a very heavy DDoS I see over 500,000 requests in the past few minutes [08:20:15] It seems to be hitting all of your cps very heavily [08:20:28] 700,000 requests from Asia [08:20:49] make that over 2,000,000 [08:20:52] wtf [08:21:10] god [08:21:24] who else can look into it rn? [08:21:36] I thought Reception is in Europe? [08:22:25] I don't think ive ever seen so many requests. Im surprised phorge, grafana, etc... is still online... [08:22:47] I am right now as well... just on a plane... [08:23:09] let me see if I can ban some IPs [08:23:40] luckily I have shell access on my phone just not super convenient [08:29:40] I'm nuking entire ASNs in the firewall to stop it. [08:30:57] Asia - China? [08:32:22] ugh the servers are dead I'm rebooting [08:32:36] That's… a lot. 💀 [08:32:44] <.labster> I have an unrelated problem to the outage -- does anyone know how to use Gerrit? I'm going through the tutorial, and trying to run `git review`, but it says that it won't work without a `Change-Id`? How do you generate Change-Id's for git-review to use? [08:33:21] I know Gerrit, But Gerrit doesn't know me! [08:33:26] now nginx want start... [08:34:12] <.labster, replying to rodejong> quiet dutchman, i'm talking about the software [08:36:48] I don't understand how we had 2.5 million requests... [08:37:22] <.labster> a million here, a million there, and pretty soon you're talking about real web traffic [08:41:05] Lets see if I can get nginx to start back up again now... [08:41:50] And... we are coming back! [08:42:40] Miraheze is up again!! [08:44:21] <.tounae_official> hooray! [08:45:27] hooray [08:46:03] It is still a bit wonky, but it works [08:47:23] Yeah it might be for a bit it seems were still have a lot of traffic even after I banned the IPs from before [08:48:16] I'm honestly surprised the servers are still kicking if it were our old servers theyd be on fire right now 🔥 [08:59:45] <.labster, replying to .labster> figured it out, git-review really hates `git commit -m` [09:01:09] I never use git-review lol, I always just use the Gerrit web interface lol [09:01:37] I think I've only ever used it once [09:01:59] <.labster> It's really weird to already have +2 and not know how to use Gerrit [09:02:22] <.labster> that's a work-repo +2, not WMF in general +2. [09:02:51] Oh lol I was about to say... how'd you get +2... [09:04:06] <.labster> sleeping with the right people [09:04:21] <.labster> I believe it's called "skizzering" [09:10:22] 1,336,126 requests/second jeez... [09:11:10] That was a lot more then I even saw... [09:22:32] <.labster> 1337k / s - obvious leet hackers [09:30:20] damn [09:33:57] <.labster> Okay, I have another help question: why isn't https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Directors/Elections/2024/Nominations transcluding the current version of https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Directors/Header ? I edited the page, but the new tab isn't showing up, even in preview. [10:34:39] 1.3 million a second? 😨 [11:21:47] purge doesn/t do it? [11:40:39] what are chances WikiTide will be able to escalate this to investigatio? [11:41:05] like previous DDoS wave [12:06:40] The US are are a bit more slow to deal with stuff [12:07:16] 1.3mil/sec is organised [12:07:36] So it might be worth reaching out to a forensics team [12:07:42] We have some but all UK based [12:08:46]