[00:24:13] [1/2] Yeah from that description that's sounds like it, it's a real namespace but it's edited only through the extension's interface. [00:24:13] [2/2] We'll come back with abuse filter questions if needed but in the meantime, really, thanks for the help! Since our wiki requires a validated email we never see any vandalism so we're not very used to dealing with disruptions haha. [00:42:00] [1/2] bro [00:42:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1223432005992185998/sK5mfdz.png?ex=6619d4d8&is=66075fd8&hm=61bae9a0a970caeadf7815ba109735920e99067152d64b4c2291192d8feff9cd& [01:10:30] Is there a place where I could meet with several board members/site staff in private? I have a pretty major thing I would like to share, but would not like the information public. [01:25:08] You can DM or email a [[Board]] member [01:25:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Board [01:25:09] [02:23:08] Asian IP got unblocked? [02:57:11] i hope the ddosing goes away soonπŸ₯²... [02:59:56] It also pops-up for me when I try to upload/delete a file. [03:00:24] Guys do you know if "#tag:phonos" is available on Miraheze? [03:01:12] I mean, for extension... [03:44:04] Not yet but it is approved for installation. So we can install soon. [04:32:15] got a "service unavailable" for the static site and all the images stopped loading for a second [04:32:43] I restarted a server to test something out [06:16:34] Please, do it, guys. I'm building an template which uses the phonos function. [06:44:35] This PR really should be mergeed https://github.com/miraheze/landing/pull/139 [06:44:50] The issue still exists [07:05:50] just a bump [07:53:51] Use #support [07:54:04] alright [12:23:19] [1/3] i still have one question that i already asked long ago about the website [12:23:19] [2/3] what the actual hell happened to the british isles?? [12:23:19] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1223608494578733136/Screenshot_20240330_192242_Chrome.png?ex=661a7936&is=66080436&hm=93fcc441a00db92360bbea32f04cd4947041451da7bbd36d237f6373ca7e1e8e& [12:25:14] ireland and iceland have completely sunk and now theres a "british"-sized island in the middle [12:44:53] what the heck [12:53:12] If its meant to be a map of the EU, the UK is no longer in the EU, but Ireland and Iceland are attached to that. [12:53:37] If its meant to be a map of Europe, then I guess France finally sunk us [13:16:18] I'm seeing Norway and Switzerland though [13:23:43] Norway is still part of the single market and Switzerland has the area of freedom, its a loose association but the UK sorta severed nearly all ties [13:24:30] I am trying to find some reason to it :ellenLUL: [14:00:25] Well one thing that's not great about the EEA is that you don't get to vote for EU laws, you just need to implement a lot of them [14:01:02] But for countries like Norway and Iceland I guess that makes more sense than joining the EU [14:27:01] Join the rest of us who actually have brains and did not vote for Brexit. [14:28:27] The Schengen area is a really good concept if anyone is into stuff like politics/geog [14:33:38] Well, the UK is basically in Limbo. They can't get cheap labor, and the work that needs t be done they don't want to do themselves. The can't export Fish to nearby countries, as the Customs is a mess. Lorry drivers are upset because they have loads of administration. But Yeay for own determination πŸ˜„ [14:37:21] Norway and Iceland as well as the Faroe Islands and Greenland live from fishing, seal hunting, and Norway lives from Oil as well. If they had to abide by the EU laws, they had to live by fishing quotas, and Seal hunting would be forbidden, which is their culture. [14:40:28] [1/4] I am neutral in this, just stating what I know. [14:40:28] [2/4] Another factor is that many of the Nordic countries do not want to join the "€" and stick to their Crowns. [14:40:29] [3/4] It has it's upside though. Our taxes are really high, but so are our wages. [14:40:29] [4/4] So when going to shop in Germany, everything is really cheap. [14:42:44] Anyone know why echo pings are so delayed [14:42:50] I'm getting stuff 3 days old now [15:10:37] Jobqueue is extremely slow right now [15:12:31] It’s being looked into [15:12:50] One of the related servers as at 266 load right now [15:13:23] Ah okay [15:33:50] That's quite a load [15:35:40] Quick question: what's the name of the page used to import XML files onto a wiki? [15:35:58] Special:Import [15:36:09] it doesn't work all that well in Miraheze though [15:36:33] if it doesn't work for you you can use [[Special:RequestImport]] [15:36:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImport [15:36:34] [16:57:49] What do you call one of those pages that links back to other pages in alphabetical order? [17:00:15] Well,categories do that [17:00:16] [1/2] Are you referring to the Categories page? [17:00:17] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Category [17:00:42] YEAH [17:00:47] Pretty sure can be done with DPL or even by hand making an index [17:00:52] Sorry I was forgetting the word [17:07:46] Do categories auto-update when a page is linked or do you have to manually do that? [17:09:59] When you add a page to a category it auto updates [17:10:11] Thank you! [17:44:50] Random question [17:45:13] Is there a way to check how big your wiki currently is in bytes [17:45:26] Or whatever the unit of measure is in this context [17:46:20] As in you guys know how if you click into a page and check its history, it'd show you how big your page is in bytes? Is there a way to check the total size of your whole wiki based on adding up all the pages [17:46:44] I vaguely remember the answer being "no"? [17:46:46] Not from MediaWiki. [17:47:19] A member of SRE could query the size of the database but I don't understand what the point of that would be. [17:48:12] A bot script could do that depending on the size [17:48:16] Ah gotcha, was mainly just curious about statistics of my wiki so if its too impractical to check I'll pass [17:48:27] Just um please don’t unintentionally DoS us πŸ˜† [17:48:34] It's not impractical [18:03:08] didnt work πŸ˜” [18:06:26] [1/9] that is because you need to add a class in CSS like this: ``` [18:06:27] [2/9] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Species .pi-title { [18:06:27] [3/9] background-color: #A3998F; [18:06:27] [4/9] color: #090909; [18:06:27] [5/9] border: 0.050em solid black; [18:06:28] [6/9] border-bottom: 0; [18:06:28] [7/9] text-align: center; [18:06:28] [8/9] }``` [18:06:29] [9/9] depending which theme are you using [18:07:47] let me try this [18:10:48] nothing i do seems to change the infobox πŸ˜” [18:11:52] i assumed i had to replace "theme" with the theme im using, do i just leave it as "theme"? [18:15:24] [1/2] so on a previous fandom wiki i worked on, we used this to style the names of specific users (admins/crats), its been a while, how could i do this on miraheze? [18:15:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1223697101184041010/image.png?ex=661acbbc&is=660856bc&hm=c98bdce41d77effd77d3c22cbb257a2b42d05b524a291147004ebfe59dfa093e& [18:16:04] Should be exactly the same [18:17:06] Size is a bit weird cause stuff is getting normalised all the time by mainly Amir [18:17:13] So it'll change [18:17:19] And get smaller over time [18:17:19] i actually cant remember where it was applied is my problem D: it seems to be a unique css file but i cant figure out how i did it LOL [18:17:34] is it using jquery? or is that just normal css [18:18:27] Normal CSS. [18:18:37] okay thank you! lemme see if i can get it to work [18:20:47] oh awesome it literally just works LOL [18:25:32] show me your page and as well the mediawiki css page [18:26:18] [1/2] [18:26:18] [2/2] [18:26:45] its a little baby wiki. im trying to do all the styling before i add content [18:27:05] just brute forcing it rn [18:27:14] trying different things ppl recommend [18:27:24] this infobox will be the death of me [18:27:36] and the template? [18:27:59] @kaiunderscore [18:28:09] grabbing it rn [18:28:14] https://allsaintsstreet.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox/Character [18:28:58] as i thought [18:29:18] πŸ₯€ did i do something wrong [18:29:23] (yes) [18:31:45] you didn't edited the template from ```` to ```` [18:32:10] i already edited it [18:32:25] the only thing that weren't edited is the css [18:32:31] since i can't edit them [18:32:39] [1/6] sorry, me again, whats the equivalent to this for miraheze? cant find an answer by google >__< [18:32:39] [2/6] ```css [18:32:40] [3/6] / Wiki Imports / [18:32:40] [4/6] @import url("/load.php?mode=articles&only=styles&articles=u:dev:MediaWiki:ContribsButtons.css|u:feral:MediaWiki:Staff.css&only=styles"); [18:32:40] [5/6] ``` [18:32:41] [6/6] to import another stylesheet into your common sheet? example i would want to import a sheet called Staff.css into Timeless.css [18:33:12] ive been following Fandom's portable infobox tutorial and it leads to a bunch of dead ends πŸ˜” thank you for the fix [18:33:27] that is... the wrong site to follow... [18:33:54] the mediawiki wiki leads to it :cryign: [18:34:15] visit there: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [18:35:09] fandom is completely separate entity than miraheze because fandom use their own syntax stuffs [18:35:22] portable infobox was made by fandom though [18:35:33] hence why miraheze links to guides from fandom for it [18:36:11] yes but it was specifically created for mediawiki because the infobox they used was a custom made specially for their own mediawiki system [18:37:02] it just looks like a standard portable infobox to me tho, but this is probably the way to go: [18:37:05] and like i was going to say this: fandom only recently switched to the mediawiki base because their site got delayed far behind in term of innovation [18:38:00] that is how to install the extension, not how to styling the infobox... [18:38:10] [1/2] ? im not sure what you mean, fandom was always on mediawiki and portableinfobox was made back when it was wikia: [18:38:10] [2/2] though the newer mediawiki version does update a few things i agree [18:38:21] yeah i dont disagree, im just trying to express that the portableinfobox extension as a whole was written by wikia/fandom [18:38:27] and a bulk of how it works is written on fandom pages [18:39:09] [1/2] the theme thing is explained on the portability.fandom page haha [18:39:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1223703075542536223/image.png?ex=661ad14c&is=66085c4c&hm=adbf4a204085cf206090ada48cd4aad2b484432f8aa705c43e8b0bebf6df93f8& [18:39:17] not trying to argue just saying fandom is the info source for portableinfobox bc they made it [18:39:50] confusion and disarray on planet earth [18:40:11] so basically, portableinfobox was an extension made by fandom many years ago, it got ported into mediawiki proper but it is pretty much near identical to how fandom uses it! [18:40:25] but the implementation of css is a bit weird, since you cant use class= and have to use theme= [18:40:27] for some..reason... [18:40:48] yup [18:40:54] this page should all be true for miraheze, i cant see any glaring inconsistencies [18:42:18] this one too [18:43:44] alright, guess they did updated their infobox to be compatible with mediawiki syntax [18:44:02] it wasn't the case before 2015 [18:44:06] ah possible [18:44:12] portableinfobox is its own extension that uses its own syntax, which was ported into mediawiki [18:44:16] but you have to enable it in extensions first [18:44:24] yep [18:53:50] im giving up for now cause even with all your help nothing i do changes the infobox styling πŸ˜” [18:54:38] the infobox youre using on Neil Bowman is pi-theme-Species ? [18:54:55] for somereason [18:56:42] hold oon [18:57:49] wait, where are you seeing that? [18:57:54] inspect element [18:58:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1223707823825883336/image.png?ex=661ad5b8&is=660860b8&hm=ffd093a8d9d07c7ab57a5aaae6ee82e2823e93b3730b150dc0087d3eb32d30ea& [18:58:13] but i cant really see why as the infobox template is theme="Character" [18:58:21] was it ever "Species" at some point? it could be cache weirdness [18:58:38] OH [18:58:42] hang on i just purged it LOL [18:58:54] [1/2] on the page, click here, wait a sec then ctrl + f5 [18:58:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1223708046958792744/image.png?ex=661ad5ed&is=660860ed&hm=6be3ddf79b64019ff217be5e83e4c248f7cce8f7f7b83ef9be29e6b7e27ccca6& [18:58:59] it should now be pi-theme-Character [18:59:08] yup [18:59:36] because species doesn't make sense for that character since it's a character page. [18:59:46] right, it probably just got stuck in the cache, it happens sometimes [18:59:50] so, character make sense [18:59:54] yup [19:00:05] i need to add that function for my wiki though... [19:00:34] i generally use ctrl+f5 but it didn't always work [19:00:49] yeah, ctrl+f5 does often work but sometimes you need to ask miraheze to purge its own cache [19:00:53] purge should be available on all wikis [19:01:13] agreeed [19:01:43] oh no as in, it literally should be available on your wiki by default [19:01:56] but purge can be used as a form of DDoS... especially if you link it with a script that will auto-purge every 5 second [19:02:06] the function is always there [19:02:14] i think it will fail if you try to purge too much in a short frame [19:02:17] the button is added by a separate extension [19:02:18] i just got yelled at for clicking it too much HAHA [19:02:24] ohh makes sense [19:02:30] ph [19:02:41] never noticed that my wiki already have it XD [19:02:56] well, i guess i did enabled it [19:03:11] good thing it was disabled by default [19:04:13] sorry to bump this! [19:10:40] wait a sec [19:15:41] [1/5] a) you can't upload/use stylesheet files but you can create a custom `MediaWiki:...css` page [19:15:41] [2/5] b) the import would be, for example of `MediaWiki:Fonts.css`: [19:15:41] [3/5] `@import url('/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Fonts.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&cb=3');` [19:15:42] [4/5] c) I'm not sure if `@import` into skin CSS is going to work, iirc all imports work only in Common.css [19:15:42] [5/5] d) don't forget that importa must be in the begging of CSS [19:16:12] thank you!! i will give it a go and let you know [19:16:34] … wasn't your name previously in orange? πŸ˜• [19:16:46] Anyway, question: is there a limit on the number of columns/rows that a table can have? [19:17:22] it was, I stepped down, for foreseeable future [19:55:15] Is [[mw:Extension:RealMe]] available in Miraheze? [19:55:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RealMe [19:55:16] [19:57:05] Yes. [21:27:09] [1/2] one of my templates no longer works after importing it from WikiTide [21:27:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1223745354088845312/image.png?ex=661af8ac&is=660883ac&hm=028b0acf578c6f94d7a2582f467e071dcb9e3906b9171f63265dbc18f22076d5& [21:27:33] go to Special:ChangeContentModel and change the content model [21:28:26] thank you [22:16:21] Trying to see the mobile view on desktop. After changing the skin to pivot suddenly the link to change to mobile is no longer there [22:52:52] If you're on desktop your browser likely has a phone emulator you can use, which will always show you the mobile version of your wiki. [22:53:08] I know Firefox has one, I think I've seen people write that Chrome also has one [22:53:33] Thanks [22:53:49] When i open on mobile it still shows the desktop version [22:54:11] try reloading once you've opened the emulator, if that's what you're using [22:54:24] reloading the tab, I mean [23:17:51] ok thanks [23:21:18] Theres no wiki assistants online.. [23:21:22] It's joever..