[00:00:16] <.labster> operational security. protecting what you do in the world. [00:00:32] <.labster> [[w:opsec]] [00:00:32] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/opsec [00:00:33] [00:00:47] [1/2] "Operations security is a process that identifies critical information to determine whether friendly actions can be observed by enemy intelligence, determines if information obtained by adversaries could be interpreted to be useful to them, and then executes selected measures that eliminate or reduce adversary exploitation of friendly critical information." --more thorough definition [00:00:47] [2/2] from Wikipedia [00:03:01] <.labster> Facebook et al. want you to share everything about your life online, but this can leave you vulnerable in your real life. Anyone can use that information to pretend to be you with credit card companies, etc. Your identity is important, and identity theft is a real threat. That goes double if you have stalkers, who obsess over identity of their victims. [00:03:23] is like uploading to youtube that you smashed 5 large cokes in the Walmart without getting caught [00:03:33] [1/2] Now they're saying their trauma was made up, which is a red flag [00:03:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224871876795564132/image.png?ex=661f11d4&is=660c9cd4&hm=76638cfd01a68bda03457dfe65d97b8c15c539f938cfb21d9cf4fa8283672941& [00:03:50] @.labster I'd lock [00:04:26] And the signature is "PoopWithOliver" [00:04:31] is correct to save that as a .mht file [00:04:45] You don't really need to save any wikipages as files tbh [00:05:04] <.labster> it gets worse https://kugelnio2.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:GELMS [00:05:09] if is deleted [00:05:17] <.labster> That wiki needs to be closed. [00:05:20] Man... your reaction on https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:Bellyplayer is so way out of line there [00:05:48] If someone has a chance to file a report on SR? [00:05:55] I will note that Emicraft copied their message verbatim from an example message of mine [00:06:24] Then I guess it is also valid for you from my pov. [00:06:51] I believe people should never be traumatized by such questions [00:06:58] adding šŸ¤© along those messages is so fucked up [00:07:05] Use terms like "Personal trauma" [00:07:09] Locked [00:07:11] Not what trauma it is [00:07:13] <.labster> Locked account. Thanks for the report. [00:07:34] We should switch the icon of Discord Admins šŸ¤” [00:08:06] Maybe to šŸ›”ļø [00:09:05] yea, it was for attention [00:10:10] Many people crave attention. Each does it in his or her own way. [00:12:40] and is correct to upload it here? [00:15:30] What for? [00:15:35] The case is closed [00:15:54] yea, lets don't give him more attention [00:20:33] lets talk about more happy things [00:22:37] Let's keep this channel till Support. Fun stuff on #offtopic [00:22:38] that he got S.A by ||homosexual pedos|| [00:23:31] [1/2] what does this error mean [00:23:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224876902309691582/image.png?ex=661f1682&is=660ca182&hm=616ae553df968d1afbf8fbac2bf3259d2bf20dea6b0ff27cee97779bc4770092& [00:24:17] ^ tried logging into the public test wiki and it's consistently giving me that error [00:26:25] delete your facebook account! [00:27:04] What is shared online, can never be taken down [00:27:37] oh... [00:27:42] Try refreshing the page, or find another page [00:27:53] Might be the cache? [00:28:19] Facebook saves all accounts. [00:29:05] Internet archive saves pages too. [00:29:13] Users save info as well [00:30:01] Once you put yourself out there, you are there to stay. [00:32:31] #offtopic [00:34:25] @tali64 have a sec? [00:34:33] I do [00:34:38] see DMs [00:37:39] still waiting for a reponse [00:38:31] @MediaWiki Trusted Support Volunteers [00:39:20] CSS [00:39:47] Hi hello we have some translated pages FuzzyBot has been supposed to delete for almost 2 days but still hasn't, is this normal and due to some particularly long queue, are there other possible reasons for that to happen, or should it be properly reported somewhere? [00:40:22] jobqueue has been wonky as of late, that much is known, but someone authoritative can comment further [00:40:24] [1/2] how do i add it then [00:40:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224881150707765318/gA8KLBv.png?ex=661f1a77&is=660ca577&hm=8f0ad266cbabaac0694fc925934cdc9eb628f7b35eff6da655daa4717f11415f& [00:40:52] https://tenor.com/view/bubsy-meme-explosion-3d-gif-15828100 [00:41:04] i have no idea if this gif is considered rude at this situration rn [00:43:02] @CSS/JS Support Volunteers [00:44:01] What he want's to do, can't be done on Mirahee right? [00:44:52] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Theme prob possible tho [00:45:03] not through that particular extension but perhaps there are other extensions that achieve a similar end [00:45:50] oh I misunderstood [00:46:16] yeah now I'm curious how it works on the miraheze end, there should be a help reference on meta for that [01:16:19] <.labster> You can customize your wikiā€™s appearance by editing the CSS files, changing the skin, or adding User CSS [01:21:32] well he's looking into the themes extension specifically [01:21:56] now I am curious, I swear I've seen it in use but obviously the usual extension documentation does not apply here [01:33:08] It only supports some skins that add themes to it for the extension. [01:34:47] is it ok to put 29 dpl queries on a page? lol [01:39:39] I think so [03:55:59] I had a template that made over 100 lol so that's absolutely fine [04:03:03] lol [04:17:39] How did I get in here? What happened to wikitide [04:30:57] using fancy words now huh [05:04:10] even roblox wiki communities are better than this ā˜ ļø [05:04:38] <.labster> thanks for the compliment [05:06:38] <.labster> Ugh violent threats too https://kugelnio2.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:Kugeln.io?curid=66&diff=534&oldid=523 Maybe should report to law enforcement. [05:06:54] Why does the Fundamental Paper Educational wiki have no one accept it? [05:07:32] <.labster> We provide the web hosting, you have to find the users and editors. [05:12:49] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224949706745057281/Screenshot_20240403-121010.png?ex=661f5a50&is=660ce550&hm=02adccea958aaf8239cf2dfc2705d5802ec91d9e1f0ec137b13674286f93ae19& [05:12:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224949706992386119/Screenshot_20240403-121005.png?ex=661f5a50&is=660ce550&hm=b04e6f2a16abc4583e5825e47648e191e9e9bf93918faec386928fb01ff4c5c6& [05:13:27] I requested 1 day ago [05:13:31] <.labster, replying to zierland> Oh, I understand. We are behind on wiki requests right now. It will be done in 1-2 days. [05:13:41] Okay [05:13:46] <.labster> Sorry. [05:13:46] l waiting it [05:13:54] it's ok [05:14:20] We do apologize for the delay. In all honesty a lot of our wiki creators are quite busy right now and haven't been able to attend to the queue as much lately. [05:14:33] I'll come back after I get home from school. [05:14:45] okay [05:14:46] Unfortunately because your request was filed today, it may take a bit as we clear requests in the order they were filed. [05:17:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224950800883777566/remix-2115ba8f-cc83-4fed-b44c-2115c640ed7a.png?ex=661f5b55&is=660ce655&hm=5512be9a50e33ddbaa37ad0da8ea02f1876611fef1d03def2512be384acc54cb& [05:17:40] 15:16, April 2, 2024 [05:19:33] How come the Interwiki Administrator usergroup is still blacklisted even though the only permission extended to them is no longer blacklisted? [05:20:27] Wouldn't it make better sense if the group was no longer blacklisted? [05:21:11] Yeah [05:21:30] This is the current backlog for reference: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue [05:21:55] BrandonWM is working on it right now it seems but it might take a while [05:22:26] ok [05:22:39] soon, I will make a new wiki called Fanon Countries [05:22:58] fanon countries meaning custom nations. [05:24:40] What do you mean [05:25:07] [1/2] @brandon.wm I think this was an accidental approval [05:25:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224952804213526648/image.png?ex=661f5d33&is=660ce833&hm=691f5c25681b4897aff77a852d24345cb7a25a12307b1d499536bd52b4007b55& [05:25:53] Lemme check. The usergroup definitely couldn't be granted and revoked by local users the last time I checked. [05:26:28] Yeah, the usergroup isn't available. [05:26:36] @c.syde65 sup man [05:26:51] 'Sup? āœŒšŸ½ šŸ˜„ [05:27:00] Nothing much [05:27:27] Interwiki Administrators isn't on the list. [05:27:55] The group no longer exists [05:28:12] Wait. [05:28:34] Oh. You're right. [05:28:44] Here links: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/42902 [05:28:46] How long has it been like that? [05:28:49] @agentisai [05:29:05] The wiki creators will get to it when they have the time [05:29:10] A week or two [05:29:24] Okay [05:32:04] The group is still blacklisted though when I try to recreate it. [05:32:29] probably cache [05:33:06] Still no luck. [05:36:19] I tried refreshing. And still nothing. [05:36:27] I meant the ManageWiki cache [05:39:53] Is there anything that can be done about it? [05:47:02] Jobqueue seems fine for createwiki šŸ¤· [06:12:46] just convince admins and the owner to move it to miraheze [06:13:16] ive tried and it works [06:13:16] https://agesofconflict.wiki/wiki/Main_Page [06:14:11] [[mh:ages of conflict]] [06:14:11] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_conflict [06:14:12] [06:26:19] dead server [06:26:38] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp41.wikitide.net at Wed [06:26:38] [2/2] Varnish XID 115835224, serving . [06:27:25] We have cp41? [06:27:32] there's no docs on it on Meta ahah [06:27:49] Meta is also dead [06:27:57] šŸ’€ [06:28:01] I can access Meta [06:28:34] [1/2] yikes [06:28:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224968770431352842/Screenshot_2024-04-02_at_11.28.30_PM.png?ex=661f6c11&is=660cf711&hm=0611ca777a59aabb93a107d0e4cff36d16a56380c44e163065cda1bf957d9815& [06:29:16] If it's a recurring issue, eventually just ping SRE in #tech [06:41:26] [1/2] Does anyone with Citizen skin have images slightly cut off? [06:41:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224972011340566548/image.png?ex=661f6f16&is=660cfa16&hm=00c82a2494557f936966183ed7706fc659e7f3a23af48f7d61d1677ec8525ddd& [06:41:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224972101862031462/image.png?ex=661f6f2b&is=660cfa2b&hm=f8164d00714b00ff8a4cd5cd94e941b6ed8b73734d1e0562846ec2ff919f1b96& [06:43:07] Can someone please refresh the ManageWiki cache? [07:20:15] Yeah it rounds the corner a bit [07:20:30] But as I have bigger images it's less visible [07:46:47] Miraheze got back the original brandingšŸ¤£ [07:46:56] So what has happened after all [07:51:29] Hello again Reception123, may I know if I can supply my SSL certificate to you to set up the domain? [07:51:52] Letā€™s Encrypt certs are automatic [07:52:00] So I request it from a free provider and provide you the private key [07:52:29] He replied to me saying second level domains aren't supported in their certificate request system [07:52:42] Ah [07:52:43] Then idk [07:52:49] Out of my domain [07:52:59] Thanks for helping me [07:53:28] Is there an issue with the cache at the moment? Up until last week sometime whenever I created a red link it would show almost immediately as a blue link, but now I need to save a page before it updates. [07:54:30] Iā€™ve heard the word cache a bit but not sure myself [07:58:06] from what i've noticed the cache has not been updating at all without purging the page [07:59:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1224991603530403923/Untitled.png?ex=661f8155&is=660d0c55&hm=c4104212a7253207df7b05d0b666cc1402a1b431c39829bf95d9eb6949736767& [07:59:49] Its maybe the best example I can pull, as all of these red links have been created, but on my end its still showing as an uncreated page [07:59:51] What was the request? [08:00:11] May I know what you're referring to? [08:00:32] some pages on my wiki still show a template version which is from days ago [08:00:45] For the SSL, please link the request [08:00:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestSSLQueue/38 [08:02:07] Ok, can you switch to a CNAME instead of NS? [08:02:22] Or do you need to use the NS option? [08:02:35] At this time I need the NS option [08:03:07] If doing the CNAME this may affect further usage, because of some internal problems [08:03:14] Media is a TLD? [08:03:30] .media is TLD [08:04:16] Please make a comment asking for a CSR to be generated? [08:05:12] Do I need to explicitly state this in the request? [08:05:25] Yes cause @reception123 hasn't done it [08:05:34] You can then go and buy your own certificate [08:05:51] That means I need to request the certificate myself [08:06:02] And then provide you the private key that's correct? [08:06:06] You will need to buy a certificate yes [08:06:12] You provide us the signed public key [08:06:14] Thanks. [08:06:43] The CSR is a way of asking someone else to sign a private key generated by us [08:07:12] That means you provide the CSR instead of I generate it myself? [08:07:26] Yes [08:07:40] I know. So I'll include this in the request accordingly. [08:07:47] We give you a CSR and you give that to whoever you want to get an SSL certificate from. [08:07:58] Thank you for letting me know. [08:08:02] And then they'll give you a public key you can send back to us. [08:08:11] I'm going to update the request, please, one moment. [08:08:19] Sure. [08:09:16] I've just updated the request. [09:30:41] @Site Reliability Engineers Can some of you look into this please? See: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1223825613056381028 [09:31:05] There are several who have the issue that red links do not turn blue [09:36:33] Still not refreshed. [09:37:45] As you should be able to see here, it isn't letting me change any of the permissions. https://csydes.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/interwiki-admin#mw-section-unassigned [09:45:31] Is InstantCommons down again? [09:50:19] How long do they take to get to a request? [09:53:44] [1/2] whats with the pages being crossed out? [09:53:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225020404377194506/image.png?ex=661f9c28&is=660d2728&hm=1306606496bf258d3711255f249c36a2adb5a3d89613cdb365da35370ed01f5d& [09:54:19] it means they're cached in WantedPages but actually created already [09:55:15] im assuming the cache is updated on a weekly basis, or i can cache it manually [09:56:10] but ncie to know [10:03:45] Nevermind, cache issue [10:04:38] since miser mode was enabled some special pages behave differently so yeah [10:10:34] I'm back [10:10:48] Hellooo [10:10:50] mornin [10:10:57] hi [10:11:10] nice to meet you [10:11:18] nice to meet you too [11:10:52] any volunteers for my wiki? i need to have someone who could proof-read as well create some summary page for each chapters that i wrote at royal road so far. [11:13:27] 'a few days' is a reasonable average although my impression is that everyone is a little backed up at the moment [11:16:03] indeed [11:16:52] i filled a request for an extension to be enabled and it took a few days to enable it. same when i first created the wiki. [11:17:19] If you asre okay with proofreading makking the text appear to be AI made, Grammarly is a thing but not 100% perfect [11:17:37] it's not made with ai... [11:18:08] No, Grammarly is a progem that proof reads BUT text run thought it will appear AI made [11:18:40] it's just that english is not my main language plus dyslexia, it's not that very funny to have grammar errors and typos. [11:19:14] https://www.grammarly.com/ - I am talking about this progam [11:19:24] i'm well aware [11:19:30] Grammarly is an AI program [11:19:37] doesn't mean that text run through it will appear AI [11:19:40] and as you said yourself, it's not 100% perfect [11:19:52] It will, I know as I had human content appear AI [11:21:00] in general a dedicated writing venue is more likely to get you people who can consistently proofread/has more free time to that end [11:21:04] [1/2] Right, but I'm saying that just because it's called an AI program doesn't mean it makes text appear AI. [11:21:04] [2/2] It's a computer program. It checks text according to certain rules. That's it [11:21:10] most likely people here are in it for whatever project they're already in [11:21:32] I can even show you using an progam I use, IAmTheSkull's stuff appear AI generated to an AI checker [11:22:27] Sure, one time, but that isn't everyone's experience. Like, grammarly doesn't turn something into AI, it follows rules, that's it [11:22:43] This page was made by Jangou S, https://app.originality.ai/share/6l5k0m7puh4c8xny and Grammarly fixed [11:23:27] I have seen consistent results with this. [11:23:32] \sigh\ why every single time when i asked for help for my books, it always brought up AI generated content? it's so annoying and i'm tired of that bullshit... [11:23:53] and by the way, lunch time. [11:24:07] I mean it lis possbly human, but I am unsure. I am not going to proofread by hand without pay [11:24:45] @brandon.wm can autopatrolled actually be requested [11:24:48] [1/3] That's not really the point- one experience does not a rule make. [11:24:48] [2/3] It follows the same rules we all follow- the rules of grammar. The only difference is that grammarly is not human, so cannot differentiate between different contexts (such as purposefully breaking grammatical rules to create tension in a horror story, for example). That's why humans are better- we have the creativity and imagination to differentiate between different circumsta [11:24:49] [3/3] nces and intents. [11:24:59] And, more to the point, we're the intended audience [11:25:09] if it's not spelled out imo it should not have its own button/encouragement as it's always been a more discretionary role and having it asked for has been conventionally discouraged [11:25:23] I have to say "No Grammarly" due to how it shows to AI detectors [11:25:44] I do hate grammarly too [11:26:13] The AI detetcors think it is AI, so, I have to ban it to avoid fake postives [11:26:23] What I miss [11:26:35] we're discussing grammarly [11:26:48] Interesting [11:26:50] By "Appearing" I ment to AI detecor progams. [11:27:06] Ah, not to people, gotcha [11:27:10] Of coruse, it does work well IF one is fine with AI detectors thinking it is AI [11:27:37] Why would it be run through an AI detector, out of curiousity? [11:27:39] Not in reality. Technically, yes. [11:27:40] Isn't this for a wiki page? [11:27:48] Can we move to #offtopic [11:28:01] Hm, auto protrolled? [11:28:29] I'm assuming raidarr means on meta [11:29:07] aye [11:29:22] Sadly, I have little I can do on Miraheze [11:30:21] mainly I wonder if it should be opened up to as a preloaded request [11:30:44] if the answer on that is yes then I guess it could use its own note to try and discourage requests in need of rebuff [11:31:07] @raidarr no and neither should flooder [11:31:40] Discretionary rights should be on AN [11:31:56] flooder I could understand as a clear cut situational niche right [11:31:57] And autopatrolled is by admin decree or nomination only [11:32:10] It's up to admin [11:32:15] if this is specified in the policy it should be removed [11:32:26] admin obviously decides to approve or decline, I'm not saying they're all votes by any means [11:32:40] I'm talking in context of discretionary rights having been merged on a voted board [11:33:05] Nowhere explicitly states you can't request but it is strongly discouraged [11:33:23] I'd honestly rather patrollers could grant auto patrol tbh [11:33:26] if the rights can be self nominated then it's pretty simple, there's a form, admin says yay or nay, and this works for ones with clear cut technical purposes: but something like autopatrolled is more fuzzy. I think we mean the same thing, what I'm trying to get to the bottom of is having that as a button on that page [11:33:39] I'd say no button [11:33:46] As it doesn't need a vote [11:33:56] well if that was the case the entire merge should be undone [11:33:59] the logic needs to be more clear [11:34:01] Just the request of a competent person [11:34:20] Ye I'm confused by this merge tbh [11:34:30] apparently several stewards and a couple admins said yes on it [11:34:49] so perhaps it should be taken to AN and we see there [11:34:57] Maybe [11:35:16] Can I start an RfC on patrollers granting autopatrolled too? [11:35:26] I can't tell you no [11:36:39] I mean you can [11:36:46] And I'd probably listen [11:37:03] it's not the worst idea, I'd need to sit on it personally [11:37:46] whistles innocently [11:38:19] you're probably the largest success story on that front [11:38:22] Hey @pixldev [11:38:53] You're probably one of our least troublesome younger users [11:38:57] Hello guys [11:39:10] Bye guys [11:39:16] And @rodejong [11:39:22] ro is one of our least troublesome more senior users [11:39:37] Cause @raidarr got himself T&S banned [11:39:39] and actually I think he has seniority on all of us, it used to be doug that was our senior volunteer in his 30s [11:39:44] I bough down in all humble ness [11:40:02] I don't think @notaracham has been around forever [11:40:12] na is younger I'm certain [11:40:15] @agentisai and @.labster have in their areas [11:40:23] I'm younger than you'd think [11:40:34] And @.labster is definitely trouble [11:40:50] Iā€™ll take that as a compliment [11:40:58] Oh yea def [11:41:11] (The whistle bit was because I requested patroller) The [11:41:55] Are you still in London on Saturday? [11:44:25] I think Iā€™m leaving on Saturday [11:45:03] @pixldev from what airport? [11:45:17] canā€™t recall [11:45:42] that is why i said "volunteer" not "paid worker" otherwise, i would have said this if it was for paid worker: any workers interested to help my wiki expand? i need to have someone who could proof-read as well create some summary page for each chapters that i wrote at royal road so far. and i could offer XX ā‚¬ per day. [11:45:54] I'm passing through Gatwick Airport's South Terminal Railway Station for like an hour [11:46:44] https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-the-terminal-tom-hanks-gif-14181529 [11:47:07] couldn't find a better gif of tom hank at airport ^^; [11:47:43] Ye that's a rubbish gift [11:48:05] Use Chat GPT and ask specifically "Do not change the story" "Correct spelling misstakes" "Correct grammatical errors". [11:48:25] wait, railway instead of airport... i totally misread your message [11:48:51] that is worst since gpt chat is well know for errors. [11:49:07] and inaccuracy [11:49:20] Not so much anymore. It still has flaws, but it is getting better [11:49:24] those specific tags probably do a better job, all about 'training it' to behave [11:49:34] Indeed [11:49:35] A railway station inside an airport [11:49:37] probably could be tested to see how it comes out [11:49:55] https://tenor.com/view/i-gotchu-gif-22729913 [11:49:56] fact is any volunteer proofer is probably best found in a dedicated niche community [11:50:04] Schiphol is a good example of a Railways station in the middle of an Airport [11:50:24] through meta venues here everyone's got their own thing going for the most part and proofreading is one of those longer commitments that are antithesis to working on one's own projects [11:50:37] proofreading consistently I should say [11:51:17] Fairly sure its not that one. Plus itā€™s early morning I think I know I get home late on Saturday [11:51:30] Ah [11:51:53] It's probably Heathrow @pixldev [11:51:58] i always proofread my texts but there are moment where some were completely missed because of my dyslexia. however, i always re-read as many as possible before publishing them. [11:52:31] what I say would still apply but you may find better results through a community noticeboard post which means it will actually sit for a good while and have a larger breadth of eyes looking over it and coming back, while messages to that end on discord would almost immediately be lost in conversation [11:53:27] hm good point... i forgot that wiki have that kind of system... [11:53:46] if a single article is poking the dyslexic bear too hard it may be fruitful to link that one specifically and get a set of eyes through it from time to time since people would have a clear and fairly short objective to follow, and thus are more likely to do it in the spur of the moment [11:54:05] won't have to wait for someone to 'sign up' and still get invaluable input in tricky cases [11:54:21] i see [11:55:50] i know fandom already have that system, is there an equivalent or it's at the same place as administrator page? [11:56:20] Likely, I think thatā€™s where i entered. Anyways yeah patrollers [11:56:59] there is not a specific system for this, the CN would be the most appropriate at this time or if it's a one off, the page can just link here [11:57:17] might be interesting to discuss having a proper place to find specific skills though [11:57:26] sort of a gazetteer page but for recruitment [11:57:56] [1/2] something like that: [11:57:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225051660921995314/image.png?ex=661fb944&is=660d4444&hm=f205c0a38bb5356103f94f61bdb0f9fd8340dde07aaa9536e97b6fdfefbed0db& [11:58:04] this is from fandom [11:59:02] gazetteer? [12:07:35] this is fandom's version of sitenotice [12:07:53] sitenotice is usually above content area [12:08:04] like pizza tower wiki has one rn [12:09:07] gazetteer of wikis is like manual listing of wikis, where people basically promote their projects [12:10:07] i just realized after checking back at it, after i logged back of course [12:10:19] i see [12:13:00] Is it possible to see recent activity or preferably recently created pages on a wiki? [12:13:47] Yup! [12:13:56] [[Special:RecentChanges]] [12:13:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [12:13:58] [12:14:02] On your wiki [12:14:07] Feel free to mess with the filters [12:14:09] Thanks [12:16:58] recent changes link is in sidebar by default [12:20:37] I rather like that notice FANDOM has, is it a closed soruce thing of theirs? [12:24:22] What notice [12:24:30] And if itā€™s software probably [12:24:31] This [12:24:39] Oh [12:24:40] Maybe [12:24:43] Not sure [12:24:46] By likely [12:24:57] I never worked out how to use site notices [12:25:18] i was testing it out and seem not working at all... but well [12:28:12] [1/2] Hello, I have a question. Apologies if this isn't the right place to ask, and if so, could someone refer me to a more appropriate place to do so? Hypothetical scenario: a wiki request is approved but the name isn't working out. How difficult is it to change the name in the future? I just notice that "miraheze" (?) itself went through about four within the last day or two, though I [12:28:13] [2/2] suspect that was some sort of april 1st joke. [12:29:23] I guess it can be CSS/JS'ed on non-Fandom wiki [12:29:38] the placement in low left corner I mean [12:30:23] the Orain/WikiTide thing was april fools indeed [12:30:50] The name changes were indeed part of a joke; wiki names can be changed via Special:ManageWiki, though changing wiki subdomains requires a Phorge task [12:35:26] Alright, so there is sometime of a process. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. [12:35:52] Do you want to change the displayed name or the URL [12:36:20] Also @rhinosf1 can you explain your thoughts process and idea for patroller granting AP :nomChocoStrawberry: [12:36:54] Both/either. [12:37:17] Those are conflicting but okay [12:37:47] For display name [[Special:ManageWiki/core]] I think. For the second make a task on [[Phorge]] [12:37:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/core https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [12:37:48] [1/2] [12:37:48] [2/2] [12:38:02] My thought process is it's an extremely low risk right. Having the right makes a red ! disappear next your edit for some users. Patrollers could just go, oh I've patrolled this guy enough, no one has had any issues, not an idiot, grant auto. [12:39:16] True. [12:39:22] phorge is what you'll want to visit assuming you'd want to adjust the url [12:39:53] that's the one that takes more time and involves techy stuff, the managewiki change can be made whenever and has little bearing on things [12:39:55] hm? look like miraheze is slow right now... [12:40:06] Personally Iā€™d likely use it sparingly just cause my judgement is meh sometimes. [12:40:11] Oh dear [12:40:32] sounds responsible [12:40:33] yep, definitly slow [12:40:40] Your judgement is better than you think if you're saying that [12:40:54] yes but don't let it get to your head :p [12:41:07] ah back to normal [12:41:56] Knowing when to ask someone else for advice is a really good thing [12:42:10] That's a very useful skill [12:44:14] [1/2] Alright, I was wondering if onr name (display or URL) was more difficult to change than the other as well, so thank you for pointing me at both places and giving me some more context. [12:44:14] [2/2] @_thepizzaman @raidarr [12:44:33] Do you have somme ressources / simple examples for lua on wikis, like not just how lua works, i get it, but how we call it in template, pass arguments etc [12:45:14] I'd say check fandom dev wiki [12:45:26] their modules are much simpler than of wikipedia's [12:45:33] I event copy some [12:45:44] I recall Colleiā€™s request for patrolller which was declined. I was gonna support it in my head but decided not to comment, then after it was declined I changed my opinion cause the good points raised [12:45:47] And this is why I champion discussion and consensus over votes. [12:45:47] url is definitely more difficult in terms of more steps, delay and requirement of a member of sre to enact [12:46:13] Delayed message cause signal [12:46:18] not harder in terms of being a real burdon to anyone (except maybe you for the procedure) [12:46:32] discussion and consensus was always how it's supposed to have been [12:46:41] Yes yes and yes [12:46:42] it just turns into voting in most cases [12:46:45] Music to my ears [12:46:45] Amen šŸ«” [12:48:46] hm i noticed that i couldn't find these two things: DismissableSiteNotice and centralNotice extensions in the extension page... [12:49:08] [1/2] Thanks. Conext is that a gaming group I'm part of has been designing our own TTRPG for two years and we wanted to make a wiki for the rules and some info on the playtest campaigns, but we're having a ton of trouble coming up with a name, haha. [12:49:09] [2/2] So I asked because I was wondering how much that needed to be ironed out before I put in the request. [12:49:18] [1/2] wait a sec [12:49:18] [2/2] [[Extensions]] [12:49:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions [12:49:19] [12:50:07] they are global, always enabled for everyone [12:50:15] both? [12:50:19] yes [12:50:58] although I believe centralnotice is really used on Meta wiki [12:51:26] and would appear on all Miraheze wiki from there [12:51:53] when you edit `MediaWiki:Sitenotice` on your wiki you get dismissablenotice [12:52:28] I should add that its styling works only via Common.css, and it's a bit finicky [12:53:33] Life lessons with Miraheze, my favorite reality TV show [12:55:07] [1/2] hm interesting... well, problem is i got that: [12:55:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225066050001834096/image.png?ex=661fc6aa&is=660d51aa&hm=b54fc87d74956c8a6b708e7b5969798630df50c39d5bc32338a4dd50ed41d796& [12:55:58] [1/2] same for the dismissable site notice: [12:55:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225066264628559943/image.png?ex=661fc6de&is=660d51de&hm=3177d96815321ef42b04a58d26c045ba5cb105a80faa877b8ddf52802dbb83ac& [12:56:13] CentralNotice is global [12:56:24] Let me check the other [12:56:33] oki [12:56:40] Yep [12:56:42] Both global [12:56:59] i see [12:57:08] that mean they're just invisible? [12:57:10] Legroom said that minutes ago [12:57:23] Please read ^ [12:57:33] yes i know [12:57:44] Then why are we asking again? [12:58:41] because in the extension page of my wiki, they're not shown to which why i asked and also, i tested the sitenotice but doesn't seem working hence why i asked. [12:59:02] so, to confirm thing: they're both enabled and they're just invisible. [12:59:17] If it's always enabled, it's always enabled. You don't need to do anything else. [12:59:19] I'm not entirely sure how they work but I know the intention is that they're not really meant for local wikis [12:59:33] since they can't be disabled there's little point to show them in ManageWiki, although I'd say a link to [[Extensions]] page oneta, which has list of global extensions, won't hurt [12:59:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions [12:59:34] [12:59:37] if they're used they're just used on all wikis outright without end user action required [12:59:48] CentralNotice is only for well central notices so that won't be useful. [12:59:58] DismissableSiteNotice should be fine to use I think [13:00:20] If it doesn't work, please say how it doesn't work [13:01:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225067649940066344/Screenshot_20240403-200110.png?ex=661fc828&is=660d5328&hm=d0676734e1244d71ccd0b6a7cc5b3ad40c64959fa2e05a9385b97e1d4d1b4856& [13:01:51] https://miaruniverse.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice i did that and doesn't seem to see anything change [13:02:01] What region are you connecting from? [13:02:11] @allaze_eroler you need to bump the ID too [13:02:22] I think it's Mediawiki:Sitenotice-id [13:02:30] oh [13:02:36] make sense [13:03:00] l from vietnam [13:03:07] sitenotice doesn't work right away, from my experience [13:03:18] especially when it has to be updated [13:03:25] my region connecting is vietnamese too [13:03:30] also maybe `-` is a problem [13:03:40] @allaze_eroler [13:03:57] also don't forget about cache [13:04:36] actually you know, i can see it lol [13:04:41] it's just unstyled [13:05:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225068570686263426/IMG_20240403_160456.jpg?ex=661fc903&is=660d5403&hm=7b377ba98208462fd90feeff2a12089eb24d6906a13c7ff8efca5b8857e85864& [13:05:25] Can you try a VPN to outside of Asia? [13:05:49] @agentisai / @cosmicalpha: is https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1223177185712672862 still valid? [13:07:57] https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-hmph-surprised-gif-11575208297458642114 [13:08:45] No [13:08:51] It hasn't been valid for a week now [13:09:22] Can we check for any new connectivity issues? [13:10:04] Varnish looks fine [13:13:30] @theoneandonlylegroom really weird that i don't see it even though it's shown in your case [13:14:13] try to purge cache, I'm not regular visitor of your wiki so [13:14:20] alright, it worked when i went into private mode [13:14:36] again, sitenotice needs some kicks from my experience [13:14:51] and can be styled only in Common.css [13:14:57] templatestyles won't work [13:15:55] https://tenor.com/view/rogerroger-star-wars-gif-24538011 [13:19:36] no it shows up [13:19:54] oh my messages were way backed up, ignore me [13:23:27] [1/2] alright, it worked: [13:23:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225073182726426665/image.png?ex=661fcd4f&is=660d584f&hm=ca2b6a9cf3de27f7bd407b73c32eeb2e9f0c27f8bef1fc572c2884b26e08a68d& [13:23:38] nice [13:23:45] gotta need to, style it up since i borrowed from pizza tower wiki XD [13:23:48] your wiki is going on my aesthetics list [13:23:53] [1/2] how do you get this to center? colspanning dont work and i ran out of ideas [13:23:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225073288586334218/image.png?ex=661fcd68&is=660d5868&hm=f190156f586bd23cb9a7231c700ee7f75c298f57193783ef46ef35c7b45c69c3& [13:24:22] easy, it's from css that you need to get it right [13:24:31] one moment [13:26:08] bruh... i forgot how i did that??? [13:26:37] [1/31] ```css [13:26:38] [2/31] .infobox { [13:26:38] [3/31] width: 300px; [13:26:38] [4/31] border-radius: 6px; [13:26:38] [5/31] border: 2px solid white; [13:26:39] [6/31] padding: 12px; [13:26:39] [7/31] margin: 15px 20px 20px 25px; [13:26:39] [8/31] float: right; [13:26:40] [9/31] clear: right; [13:26:40] [10/31] font-size: 90%; [13:26:40] [11/31] line-height: 1.3; [13:26:41] [12/31] } [13:26:41] [13/31] .ib-data-title { [13:26:42] [14/31] font-weight: bold; [13:26:42] [15/31] width: 85px; [13:26:43] [16/31] padding-left: 5px; [13:26:43] [17/31] vertical-align: top; [13:26:44] [18/31] } [13:26:44] [19/31] .ib-data { [13:26:45] [20/31] max-width: 170px; [13:26:45] [21/31] vertical-align: top; [13:26:46] [22/31] } [13:26:46] [23/31] .ib-image img { [13:26:47] [24/31] border: 1px solid !important; [13:26:47] [25/31] margin: 5px auto !important; [13:26:48] [26/31] } [13:26:48] [27/31] .ib-credits { [13:26:49] [28/31] text-align: center; [13:26:49] [29/31] font-size: 90%; [13:26:50] [30/31] } [13:26:50] [31/31] ``` [13:26:51] this is all i got, yes, courtesy of legroom's soft cell wiki [13:27:11] link fo your page please [13:27:34] [1/2] https://greglore.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:InfoboxWar [13:27:34] [2/2] https://greglore.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:InfoboxWar/styles.css [13:30:36] You wanna make a RFC or draft? If not I can on Sunday [13:32:51] [1/8] just a suggestion, do like mine: ``` [13:32:52] [2/8] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Species .pi-data:subtitle{ [13:32:52] [3/8] border-width: 0; [13:32:52] [4/8] padding: 0.625em 1em; [13:32:52] [5/8] padding-left: 0.500em; [13:32:53] [6/8] width: auto; [13:32:53] [7/8] text-align: center; [13:32:53] [8/8] }``` [13:33:12] it should work since .pi-data is the tr thing [13:33:41] you can ignore the .portble-info.pi-theme-Species [13:34:39] it depends on PortableInfobox [13:34:45] do i just plop the `.pi-data:subtitle` on ` [5/14] | imagecaption = [13:49:26] [6/14] | first = [13:49:27] [7/14] | second = [13:49:27] [8/14] | third = [13:49:27] [9/14] | fourth = [13:49:28] [10/14] | fifth = [13:49:28] [11/14] | sixth = [13:49:29] [12/14] | previous = [13:49:29] [13/14] | next = [13:49:30] [14/14] }}``` [13:49:44] i wanted it to make it more of a wikipedia feel [13:49:47] and where's infobix template comes from? [13:50:05] https://miaruniverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [13:50:19] that's wikipedia method: base infobox is a Lua monster [13:50:22] although thats possible with portable infobox, why not aswell go through unexplored charters [13:50:45] for that, with CSS is enough to do that part and yes, it's done with portable infobox [13:52:28] [1/58] you need to just enable portable infobox in your extension manager and start styling it with my example: ```css [13:52:28] [2/58] /======================/ [13:52:28] [3/58] / character infobox / [13:52:29] [4/58] /======================/ [13:52:29] [5/58] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Character .pi-title { [13:52:29] [6/58] background-color: #87C5C5; [13:52:29] [7/58] color: #2D2D2D; [13:52:30] [8/58] border: 0.050em solid black; [13:52:30] [9/58] border-bottom: 0; [13:52:30] [10/58] text-align: center; [13:52:31] [11/58] } [13:52:31] [12/58] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Character .pi-header { [13:52:32] [13/58] background-color: #8F8AA8; [13:52:32] [14/58] / color: #e5e5e5;/ [13:52:33] [15/58] border: 0; [13:52:33] [16/58] padding: 0.250em; [13:52:34] [17/58] padding-left: 0.500em; [13:52:34] [18/58] } [13:52:35] [19/58] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Character .pi-data:first-child{ [13:52:35] [20/58] / border: 0.125em solid black;/ [13:52:36] [21/58] border-width: 0; [13:52:36] [22/58] padding: 0.625em 1em; [13:52:37] [23/58] padding-left: 0.500em; [13:52:37] [24/58] width: auto; [13:52:38] [25/58] text-align: left; [13:52:38] [26/58] } [13:52:39] [27/58] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Character .pi-data:last-child { [13:52:39] [28/58] / border-right: 0.125em solid black;/ [13:52:40] [29/58] border-width: 0; [13:52:40] [30/58] padding: 0.625em 1em; [13:52:41] [31/58] padding-right:0.500em; [13:52:41] [32/58] width: auto; [13:52:42] [33/58] text-align: right; [13:52:42] [34/58] } [13:52:43] [35/58] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Character .pi-data:nth-child(even) { [13:52:43] [36/58] border-width: 0; [13:52:44] [37/58] background-color: #F2F2F2; [13:52:44] [38/58] width: auto; [13:52:45] [39/58] text-align: left; [13:52:45] [40/58] } [13:52:46] [41/58] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Character .pi-data:nth-child(odd) { [13:52:46] [42/58] border-width: 0; [13:52:47] [43/58] background-color: #E5E5E5; [13:52:47] [44/58] width: auto; [13:52:48] [45/58] text-align: left; [13:52:48] [46/58] } [13:52:49] [47/58] .portable-infobox.pi-theme-Character .pi-navigation { [13:52:49] [48/58] background: #87C5C5; [13:52:50] [49/58] color: #2D2D2D; [13:52:50] [50/58] text-align: right; [13:52:51] [51/58] padding-right: 0.500em; [13:52:51] [52/58] border-spacing: 0; [13:52:52] [53/58] -moz-border-radius: 0 0 0.500em 0.500em; [13:52:52] [54/58] -webkit-border-radius: 0 0 0.500em 0.500em; [13:52:53] [55/58] border-radius: 0 0 0.500em 0.500em; [13:52:53] [56/58] border: 0.050em solid black; [13:52:54] [57/58] border-top: 0; [13:52:54] [58/58] }``` [13:52:55] Do wiki creators get pensions? [13:53:05] maybe [13:54:01] [1/33] and here an example of infobox character wikitext: ``` [13:54:02] [2/33] [13:54:02] [3/33] [13:54:02] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [4/33] <default>{{PAGENAME}}/default [13:54:02] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME [13:54:03] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [5/33] /title [13:54:03] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [6/33] <image source="image"> [13:54:03] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [7/33] <caption source="imagecaption" /> [13:54:04] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [8/33] /image [13:54:04] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [9/33] <group> [13:54:04] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [10/33] <data source="aliases"><label>Aliases/label/data [13:54:05] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [11/33] <data source="relatives"><label>Relatives/label/data [13:54:05] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [12/33] <data source="affiliation"><label>Affiliation/label/data [13:54:06] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [13/33] /group [13:54:06] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [14/33] <group> [13:54:07] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [15/33] <header>Biographical information/header [13:54:07] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [16/33] <data source="marital"><label>Marital status/label/data [13:54:08] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [17/33] <data source="birthDate"><label>Date of birth/label/data [13:54:08] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [18/33] <data source="birthPlanet"><label>Planet of birth/label/data [13:54:09] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [19/33] <data source="birthPlace"><label>Place of birth/label/data [13:54:09] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [20/33] <data source="deathDate"><label>Date of death/label/data [13:54:10] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [21/33] <data source="deathPlanet"><label>Planet of death/label/data [13:54:10] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [22/33] <data source="deathPlace"><label>Place of death/label/data [13:54:11] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [23/33] /group [13:54:11] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [24/33] <group> [13:54:12] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [25/33] <header>Physical description/header [13:54:12] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [26/33] <data source="species"><label>Species/label/data [13:54:13] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [27/33] <data source="gender"><label>Gender/label/data [13:54:13] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [28/33] <data source="height"><label>Height/label/data [13:54:14] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [29/33] <data source="weight"><label>Weight/label/data [13:54:14] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [30/33] <data source="eyes"><label>Eye color/label/data [13:54:15] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [31/33] /group [13:54:15] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [32/33] <navigation><small>[[Template:Infobox character|[Source]]]/small/navigation [13:54:15] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_character [13:54:16] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [33/33] /infobox``` [13:54:23] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to zierland> <https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math> [13:54:54] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> it's already much cleared than your method @verdessence XD [13:55:29] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> yeah it is :p [13:55:32] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> https://miaruniverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_character here the template if you're curious [13:58:36] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> but hey im just experimenting with parameters though, could help with making things easier if i get the gist of it [13:59:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] @raidarr checked your essay and [13:59:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/WikiSEO_-_Improving_Search_Ranking> [13:59:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Collei/Improving_a_wiki%27s_SEO> (wip) [14:01:25] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> splendid [14:01:35] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence, replying to verdessence> oh it worked [14:02:21] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence, replying to allaze_eroler> this worked with `colspan="2"` in it, damn [14:03:25] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr, replying to raidarr> ^ added [14:05:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to verdessence> I do wonder what convinced you to use classic tables lol [14:06:30] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> get a wikipedia feel of infoboxes, because of that one meme, and a little bit of learning how parameters work [14:06:53] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> it can be done from css too: https://support.awesome-table.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001393209-Add-style-to-specific-columns-or-rows-in-your-Table-app [14:06:56] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to raidarr> i mean - eh [14:07:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Iā€™ve yet to see a successful request [14:07:52] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> it can technically but should it I suppose is where the question comes down, definately something for an on-wiki discourse probably [14:08:05] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Com Empire and Silicona did right before I requested patroller [14:08:19] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> honestly, the reason why i prefer to separate styling from wikitext was mainly because it's much easier to work than editing EACH page to change the styling. [14:08:59] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Side note does anyone know Siliconaā€™s gender? I just refer to them as them cause idk, the -a ending makes me think feminine but donā€™t wanna assume [14:09:01] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to pixldev> where [14:09:11] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> [[AN]] [14:09:11] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/AN [14:09:17] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/AN> [14:09:39] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Actually [14:09:43] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> html for text, css for styling, js for complex function that interact with styling and text. it's that simple. [14:09:44] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> CE has a request open now [14:09:58] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Doug made it [14:10:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> fr? [14:10:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> eeeeh [14:10:47] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_9 [14:10:49] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence, replying to allaze_eroler> yeah but hey it works now [14:10:56] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> i know 2 dougs: [14:10:59] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I won't want to have CE autopatrolled tbh [14:11:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Request for autoparolled rights (Silicona) #3 [14:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> And Request for autopatrolled rights (Commetian Empire) [14:11:21] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> i know only 2 dougs: [14:11:25] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-wait-confused-dog-gif-16953649 [14:11:27] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to pixldev> ....Where [14:11:30] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> https://tenor.com/view/doug-nervous-sweating-sweat-tensed-gif-15968088 [14:11:32] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I donā€™t know them well enough to say [14:11:34] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> blah [14:11:36] <MirahezeRelay> <zierland, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> thanks [14:12:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to brandon.wm> [1/2] Archive 9 [14:12:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to brandon.wm> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225085459559092377/image0.jpg?ex=661fd8be&is=660d63be&hm=129696d53257aca3d8b431ec8e7de9bc9c45cff4c01c8f60940ee4276ff76448& [14:12:25] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Meta admin :Partyheze: [14:12:28] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to pixldev> Oh [14:12:33] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> I thought you meant active [14:12:41] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to brandon.wm> :0 [14:12:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to pixldev> [1/2] the whole translation reform started because of her google translate shenanigans [14:12:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to pixldev> [2/2] her other contributions give me an impression of wanting to collect hats [14:12:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Congrats šŸŽŠ [14:13:59] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to brandon.wm> Now I get to pester you even more with any unsureities of mine [14:14:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> And thatā€™s a word now [14:14:07] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> oh boy [14:14:09] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> also she nominated herself straight to steward before lol [14:14:11] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler, replying to verdessence> agreed, now you gotta clean up that template mess XD; [14:14:12] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> <3 [14:14:18] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Naaaaaaaah [14:14:21] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Ainā€™t no way [14:15:04] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> that sidequest aside, i gotta style up my site notice... [14:15:55] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> By the way @rhin [14:16:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to zierland> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225086518352281670/image.png?ex=661fd9ba&is=660d64ba&hm=7c2c2b78a390af093128ab2621f883097b8cc5841cb8b91df79971d24cc7e3b2& [14:16:44] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to brandon.wm> @rhinosf1 if that's the case - will Reception/Agent have to suspend their access temporarily during the vote? [14:17:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to rodejong> LMAO [14:17:23] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Silicona had a RfP lmao [14:17:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to zierland> Math Extension [14:17:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to brandon.wm> As long as the private key to decrypt votes isn't held by any of SRE. It's more ok. Ideally, yes. [14:18:11] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Ah okay [14:18:22] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Just thought of that as doing this [14:18:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I'm not that convinced a fully encrypted vote on secure poll is that good of an idea [14:18:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Cause I think we're kidding ourselves of the benefit [14:18:58] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It's too small a group managing it [14:19:11] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence, replying to rodejong> i should probably ask this to gpt4 [14:19:14] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Yeah fair [14:19:18] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> I was open to giving it a shot but I'm not sure I should have gone for it tbh [14:20:19] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Worst case scenario this one turns to shit and we do it differently next year [14:21:14] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rodejong> Eh impressive it knows who John is [14:21:31] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence, replying to verdessence> [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225087791520678088/image.png?ex=661fdaea&is=660d65ea&hm=236d8b536c840df6291868ba76b9e58be4a8088e9b3d8c383045134383be84d9& [14:21:31] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence, replying to verdessence> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225087791818608761/image.png?ex=661fdaea&is=660d65ea&hm=995e42c44708bc57a11f44d6f19f4ef0df5618ae23f819f801d3aa68a6a1325b& [14:21:39] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> too much words.. [14:21:46] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> You really need all SRE on the board to resign SRE and have at least 5 independent people doing key holding and scruitneeting [14:21:57] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332, replying to pixldev> Think it will know who I am? [14:21:59] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> 2 to hold keys in case one gets hit by a bus [14:22:04] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> I don't think it will but just for fun [14:22:26] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Obviously it knows me Iā€™m famous [14:22:27] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to rhinosf1> Yeah.... [14:22:31] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Kiju and Void I suppose [14:22:32] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> And at least 3 to scruitineer (an odd number of at least 3 ) [14:22:50] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to rhinosf1> Kiju and Void hold, Harej, you, OS scrutineer? [14:23:03] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Bearing in mind all of these 5 must be independent NDA holders [14:23:12] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Which means no SRE or Board [14:23:14] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> What about Silicona :kek: [14:23:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> What does not board or SRE have too do with the NDA? They have one [14:23:54] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to pixldev> He undid an edit I made - so we're having a great time currently [14:23:54] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> So while yes, it's a secret ballot, SecurePoll is doing nothing for integrity [14:23:57] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to rhinosf1> Ah [14:24:15] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> SRE can modify votes so can't testify to integrity [14:24:16] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to brandon.wm> Enjoy ig [14:24:34] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> So Silicona is a he got it [14:24:39] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> @rhinosf1 if you're good at all with graph, what do you take from this: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/380776 [14:24:47] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> And Board are pretty clearly not independent [14:24:52] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> In a board election [14:25:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Ooooh [14:25:05] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Now I see what you mean [14:25:14] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to rhinosf1> yeah [14:25:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] didn't you suggested mw engineer before? [14:25:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] or they can't nda? [14:25:32] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> They hold shell access [14:25:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm probably imagining [14:25:37] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Still shell [14:25:40] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [1/3] Who are the board members of Miraheze? [14:25:41] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [2/3] ChatGPT [14:25:41] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [3/3] As of my last update in January 2022, the board members of Miraheze may have changed since then. It's best to refer to the official Miraheze website or contact Miraheze directly for the most up-to-date information on their board members. [14:25:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ah, opposite [14:26:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> well I'm clearly out of question lol [14:26:08] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rodejong> Gaslight it [14:26:15] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> If you have access to the database or mw*, you can impact the integrity of the vote [14:26:16] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> šŸ˜„ [14:26:25] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I think anyone can sign an NDA [14:26:27] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> of age [14:26:33] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Board and SRE need to [14:26:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I can't [14:26:45] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> .. [14:27:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ah different message sorry [14:27:27] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> in the past you could just approach the board and sign NDAs whenever you wanted [14:27:36] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Rephrase, anyone who can sign an NDA independently of Miraheze stuff may [14:27:41] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> But if no reason [14:27:46] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> The board prob just wonā€™t [14:27:59] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> not anymore though, you have to be on-track for getting shell access or CU/OS for that [14:28:34] <MacFan4000> We have one non-board and non-sre NDA holder (kiju) [14:29:03] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> First autopatrolled granted :DoneMH: to Commetia [14:29:17] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> MacFan4000: that's all? [14:29:23] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Oh Void is still SRE I forgot [14:30:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to brandon.wm> why ...... [14:30:26] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> per nomination by Doug, check AN in 3 [14:30:42] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Also why is translate-admin still a thinf [14:31:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to brandon.wm> did you missed what I said.... [14:31:10] <MacFan4000> Actually Rhinos is SRE with NDA but doesnā€™t have shell access [14:31:24] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Ah [14:31:26] <MacFan4000> So could also work [14:31:46] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I think so [14:32:39] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> well, good luck lol [14:33:03] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Itā€™s probably be fine [14:33:21] <MacFan4000> Translationadmin was removed from all users but never got deleted in ManageWiki [14:33:22] <MirahezeRelay> <awing_ding> do accentuated character always get removed when passing argument to lua function ?? [14:33:37] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> MacFan4000: Are we able to do that now or is there a tech issue with removing? [14:34:36] <MacFan4000> I donā€™t think there is any issue with removing it, not a default group. Youā€™d have to get a steward to do the removal [14:34:59] <MirahezeRelay> <awing_ding, replying to awing_ding> like i try to pass some string (let say "DizlĆ¼mĆ©") and everything that come after gets removed when i try to previsualize [14:35:05] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Iā€™ll keep a back eye on her if I see any edits from here if needed [14:35:08] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> @kiju1108 could you? [14:35:22] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> (and maybe global renamer too) [14:36:44] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> global-renamer is hardcoded on the config iirc [14:36:50] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to bluemoon0332> Ah then that's why [14:36:51] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> can't be managed via ManageWiki [14:37:00] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to brandon.wm> The first two then [14:37:23] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to bluemoon0332> Should we eventually remove? Just like Proxybot apparently still has block access even though it's been shut down for years [14:38:24] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> not really my call [14:38:40] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> feel free to use it (stewards only), or feel free to ignore it [14:38:58] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> wonder if it's learned about me at all [14:39:00] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> aren't the rights packaged with steward anyway? [14:39:05] <MirahezeRelay> <kiju1108, replying to brandon.wm> They may be used to change user permissions on external wikis, which is the same reason why the bureaucrat group still exists [14:39:11] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> I keep coming in here and messages not being latest [14:39:19] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to kiju1108> Ahhh okay [14:39:23] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> That makes a lot of sense [14:39:29] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to raidarr> hm? [14:39:40] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr, replying to verdessence> was supposed to be a response to this and the john bits [14:39:53] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> it wouldn't know about june obviously but maybe it would know about me as a steward by then [14:40:20] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Ah [14:41:39] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> anyway on permissions groups we should probably have a few more shells including `moderator` and other common extension-appended ones [14:41:52] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Shells? [14:44:21] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> just groups that exist for central assignment purposes, no rights or function on meta [14:45:55] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Ah yeah [14:46:00] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Which ones? [14:47:25] <MirahezeRelay> <kiju1108, replying to raidarr> Certainly [14:47:47] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> for a proper list I'd have to do testing [14:48:19] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> there's odd things like comment admin and forum moderator and what have you that various extensions make up [14:48:19] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> oh, automoderated is a big one from the moderation extension [15:07:12] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Hjonk [15:54:36] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> alright, it's getting closer to what i wanted for the site notice design! https://miaruniverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [15:54:59] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> still not perfect [15:55:08] <rafdodo> Hi [15:55:12] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> the dismiss button is missing [15:55:17] <rafdodo> I have 2 wiki [15:56:03] <rafdodo> And you [15:56:11] <rafdodo> ? [15:56:23] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> 4 [15:56:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> if by "have" you mean "admin" [16:10:13] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [1/2] almoooooost! [16:10:13] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225115146486026311/image.png?ex=661ff464&is=660d7f64&hm=b5b6a6884ff713717d55e4353a9a78318a093b204c0b54856aec6c66bcb34743& [16:44:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Congrats to @brandon.wm [16:58:31] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Nova back [16:59:08] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> @Stewards feel free to perform global renames again [16:59:23] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Yeyyyy [16:59:39] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Thanks for letting us know, OrangeStar [17:00:18] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to rodejong> thank you šŸ™‚ [17:00:29] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to bluemoon0332> what borked [17:00:38] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to brandon.wm> i love the clown thing so much [17:00:55] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I see you funi penguin man [17:01:01] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Penguin [17:01:02] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> You canā€™t hide [17:01:03] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> one of is [17:01:45] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Pinguin (in Romanian) [17:03:09] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225128469055275048/Screenshot_20240403-200247_Chrome.jpg?ex=662000cc&is=660d8bcc&hm=80a409826c5597ad76db0ed10a70669f41fd5319487146eba0a73e4639ba772d& [17:03:44] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> There is no way for Orain to beat Miraheze with this site [17:03:56] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> IDK [17:04:43] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Miraheze is the cool [17:06:46] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to nova_151> Orain = Miraheze [17:07:11] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Ok [17:08:42] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to nova_151> It originally was Orain, then became Miraheze. On Monday it was April Fools, so they introduced Orain again. [17:08:54] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Ok [17:08:58] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Only for that day though [17:09:04] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Just a joke [17:11:05] <MirahezeRelay> <awing_ding, replying to awing_ding> Does anyone know ? [17:12:11] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to awing_ding> I donā€™t know cause no experience with it unfortunately. Also wdym by accentuated [17:12:33] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> łĆÆkę thÄ«Å”? [17:14:52] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Hello. Is there still available this topic??? [17:15:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what? [17:16:04] <MirahezeRelay> <oviraptorfan> Hello, how can I request for permission to use Cargo Tables for my Wiki? [17:16:50] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> @oviraptorfan at [[SR/RC]] [17:16:50] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC [17:16:51] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC> [17:17:20] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> SR [17:17:36] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> SR Fershen (pardon my German) is the local channel in Germany [17:17:39] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332, replying to johnmcgurkus> there's not much left to say about that though [17:17:40] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> In Saarland [17:17:48] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> SR [17:20:53] <MirahezeRelay> <oviraptorfan, replying to bluemoon0332> [1/2] so how exactly does subdomians work? Is it like this? [17:20:54] <MirahezeRelay> <oviraptorfan, replying to bluemoon0332> [2/2] https://evosystem.miraheze.org/ [17:21:14] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus, replying to bluemoon0332> [1/2] Just wanted to know how is it going with this extension: [17:21:15] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus, replying to bluemoon0332> [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Phonos [17:21:34] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it's not on Miraheze, it has to be requested in Phorge [17:21:36] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> approved, but installation is pending [17:21:40] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> OH [17:22:07] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> the extension has some dependencies on external programs, that's why it hasn't yet been installed [17:22:49] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> Phorge task is [[phorge:T11704]] [17:22:49] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge:T11704 [17:22:50] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11704> [17:22:54] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus> oh, knew it was something complicated. Though Wikimedia installed everything for every wiki.. [17:27:56] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus> [1/2] also, wanted to install this option which comes in the cite extension: [17:27:56] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225134706668867624/image.png?ex=6620069b&is=660d919b&hm=dde9ea504f0296c0a44666921d6a2517f38d020bb805c5eedfdbcf52219e7893& [17:28:20] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus> but the problem, when I followed the steps, it didn't worked. [17:28:41] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus> waited for days and nothing. Had to reverse everything. [17:32:28] <MirahezeRelay> <oviraptorfan, replying to oviraptorfan> is it the evosystem page of the url? [17:33:49] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332, replying to oviraptorfan> yes, it's the evosystem part [17:33:55] <MirahezeRelay> <oviraptorfan> alright, good to know [17:35:22] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225136577370521610/project_20240403_2031331-01.png?ex=66200859&is=660d9359&hm=e2573304c13904c662875fd11ede2ec257bf9eb8ffefb2c741b8d3c3b5519c77& [17:35:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what are you doing [17:36:03] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Security campaign against hackers brand Megapedia [17:36:52] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [1/2] it work better than i thought but the dismiss animation is not yet workable... [17:36:53] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225136955822571621/msedge_WZlq71IYlT.gif?ex=662008b4&is=660d93b4&hm=e1d4b33f08ace7129853700e28e1ee8006a92544a1c6baa3e0b8c2074cf3bec3& [17:37:00] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Megapedia staff will only do this campaign for communities in these locations. [17:38:20] <MirahezeRelay> <serverlessharej, replying to nova_151> So you know, Orain isn't a functioning wiki host anymore, it was the predecessor to Miraheze [17:38:21] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> This will not affect the operation of Miraheze in any way, but Tali's signal made us do this campaign so that Miraheze does not enter a collapse where attackers can easily enter and sneak in like ants [17:38:44] <MirahezeRelay> <serverlessharej> I don't understand, are you actively trying to break into Miraheze? [17:38:52] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> nova is not to be taken particularly seriously [17:39:04] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to nova_151> I think that the boards of these wiki's should decide this, and not a user that just decides it is a good idea [17:39:07] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> but I would suggest dropping the hack bit [17:39:21] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Thanks [17:39:29] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> The title being slightly out of line with the text below is annoying [17:43:42] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> Is it possible to create a dump that includes all media that I have uploaded to the wiki? [17:44:33] <MirahezeRelay> <tali64, replying to turwaith> It was at one point, from what I've heard; now you need to make a Phorge task to generate a media dump [17:46:18] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> Alright thank you [17:47:20] <MirahezeRelay> <awing_ding, replying to pixldev> Yes [17:47:28] <MirahezeRelay> <awing_ding> It was a Ć¼ [17:53:18] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> can any of you test the site notice? https://miaruniverse.miraheze.org/ [17:53:52] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> MiAr [17:54:04] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> My name is MiAr Ketchup. [17:54:46] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> I put the MiAr on the grill and kebabs [17:54:56] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to allaze_eroler> yup, works [17:55:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> care to share snippet on dev wiki? [17:55:12] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> the close animation is not working unfortunately [17:55:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you want it to slide away? [17:55:30] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> yup [17:55:57] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Sorry, I said, I'm joking with every word When you hear me like that again, don't take it seriously or with malice [17:56:40] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [1/71] this is the entire css code i modified after borrowing the pizza tower css code and after studying how fandom styled it: ```css [17:56:40] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [2/71] / global site notice / [17:56:41] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [3/71] / [17:56:41] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [4/71] * ---------------------------------------- [17:56:41] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [5/71] * animation slide-right [17:56:41] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [6/71] * ---------------------------------------- [17:56:42] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [7/71] */ [17:56:42] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [8/71] @keyframes slide-right { [17:56:42] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [9/71] 0% { [17:56:43] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [10/71] opacity:0; [17:56:43] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [11/71] left: -35em; [17:56:44] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [12/71] } [17:56:44] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [13/71] 25% { [17:56:45] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [14/71] opacity:0; [17:56:45] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [15/71] } [17:56:46] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [16/71] 75%{ [17:56:46] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [17/71] opacity:1; [17:56:47] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [18/71] } [17:56:47] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [19/71] 100% { [17:56:48] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [20/71] opacity:1; [17:56:48] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [21/71] left: 4em; [17:56:49] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [22/71] } [17:56:49] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [23/71] } [17:56:50] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [24/71] .vector-feature-zebra-design-disabled .vector-sitenotice-container { [17:56:50] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [25/71] bottom: 4em; [17:56:51] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [26/71] animation: slide-right 1s cubic-bezier(.47,.65,.66,1.6) forwards; [17:56:51] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [27/71] } [17:56:52] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [28/71] .vector-feature-zebra-design-disabled .vector-sitenotice-container:after { [17:56:52] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [29/71] animation: slide-right 1s cubic-bezier(.47,.65,.66,1.6) reverse; [17:56:53] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [30/71] } [17:56:53] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [31/71] .vector-feature-zebra-design-disabled .vector-sitenotice-container:active:after { [17:56:54] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [32/71] } [17:56:54] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [33/71] .vector-sitenotice-container { [17:56:55] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [34/71] bottom: 4em; [17:56:55] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [35/71] position: fixed; [17:56:56] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [36/71] z-index: 300; [17:56:56] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [37/71] } [17:56:57] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [38/71] .mw-dismissable-notice-body { [17:56:57] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> [39/71] display: flex; [17:57:43] <MirahezeRelay> <dusksteel> huh chatgpt isnt browsing my wiki any more [17:57:47] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> blame pizza tower for not leaving any comment XD [17:58:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> idk, I try leave comments always [17:58:42] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> i tends to leave comments once i finish coding the whole project [17:58:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what I meant by dev wiki is <https://dev.miraheze.org/> [17:59:14] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> hm? [17:59:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> @rodejong should users create CSS/JS snippet as user subpages or like normal pages or in namespace like mediawiki.org? [17:59:59] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> the whole code is done in common.css [18:00:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> yes, I know [18:00:53] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what I'm saying [18:01:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> dev wiki is a place when people can share their snippets like templates [18:01:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> for eaiser reference [18:01:14] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> on dev wiki if the intention is to offer for public use and amendment I would put it in mainspace [18:01:17] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> I have never worked with CSS although I know Wikicode, one day I would like to change the look of my wiki to something with green and blue [18:01:21] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> userspace should be more personal/reserved or wip content [18:01:30] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> ah ok [18:01:45] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> that's just my raidarrism though [18:01:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] for example [18:01:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Photo_Slider> [18:01:52] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> i'm more familiar with CSS than wikicode lol... [18:02:21] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> for a 'finished' snippet having it in the open space would be nice I think [18:02:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> MW goes w/ subpages lol [18:02:44] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> goodness gracious... so much coding and it's a spaghetti code! XD [18:03:03] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I think that is a question for @pppery__99225 as he is the admin there. [18:03:06] <MirahezeRelay> <tomodachi94> How does MigrateUserAccount work for former Fandom wikis moving to Miraheze? [18:03:28] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> it doesn't [18:03:37] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> that extension is not supported in Miraheze [18:03:51] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> anyway, going to dinner now [18:03:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tomodachi94> there's no such feature on Miraheze, but creating an account w/ the same name as on Fandom attaches account on xml import [18:04:17] <MirahezeRelay> <pppery__99225> I don't care where people put CSS myself, but MediaWiki software won't let you load CSS/JS unless it's protected or in user space [18:04:38] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> @tomodachi94 we can also reassign edits to your users after the import as well [18:04:56] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to pppery__99225> I mean, it's a just reference code, what MW does, what Fandom wiki does [18:05:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you can change page model too [18:05:53] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to pppery__99225> ok. [18:05:59] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Miraheze Plus, fictional channel in Mirahlandia [18:06:05] <MirahezeRelay> <nova_151> Soon [18:09:06] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to pppery__99225> @theoneandonlylegroom [18:09:41] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Ah, you saw it already:D [18:11:47] <MirahezeRelay> <johnmcgurkus> -.- [18:12:11] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to deleted_user_ae05ccd0a28c> https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12019 - I've added a bug issue on issue tracker, I don't know if there's anything you'd like to add. [18:19:36] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster> https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:BASEPAGENAME Hmmm [18:20:06] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster> RefreshLinks did something interesting. [19:09:05] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> [1/2] I'd like to move this title to the middle. I am using the `<infobox>` template from the Portable Infobox extension. I have tried using basic css styling like text-align, content-align but this did not work. [19:09:05] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225160161757499422/image.png?ex=66201e50&is=660da950&hm=0a061589dfb211957804b42cfb5d7e297dd477df8efabea9b1745a94b68c242d& [19:09:59] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> Following the template, this title is a <header> element [19:14:17] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Not really familiar with Portable Infobox, but isn't it just <center>/center? [19:14:47] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> <center>/center inside the <header> element? [19:14:57] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> I would think so [19:16:04] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> That works, thanks ^^ [19:16:37] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> I write backend code every day but design stuff is just a puzzle to me sometimes xD [19:17:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> center is depraced HTML tag [19:18:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you need to CSS re-style `pi-header` class iirc [19:19:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> `.pi-header { text-align: center; }` [19:20:24] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> I read this in some doc and tried it but it did not work... but maybe my css was just wrong or there was something else wrong with it [19:25:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> CSS takes some time or a purge kick to start working [19:28:03] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> agreed [19:28:33] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> I put it in the Common.css again. Maybe it works this time. [19:35:49] <MirahezeRelay> <turwaith> Alright it seems to be working, thank you guys! [19:56:04] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> https://tenor.com/view/youre-welcome-maui-moana-sing-what-can-i-say-except-gif-17384676 [20:03:19] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz, replying to allaze_eroler> I like the movie that GIF is from! [20:05:50] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> yup [20:07:20] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> usa: Moana, EU: Vaiana because the original name exist... and ||it was because of the italian pornstar|| XD [20:11:33] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz, replying to allaze_eroler> I know. Imagine how the people at Disney felt when they found out their movie title was associated with p\\nā€¦ [20:11:56] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> hahaha yup... and it's already copyrighted at EU too [20:12:17] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz, replying to allaze_eroler> I was going to say that. Itā€™s a trademarked term for cosmetics I think. [20:12:43] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> indeed [20:13:19] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> I wonder if the books I am writing will need a different title in the EU because the title is part of a trademarked word! [20:13:46] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> oh deer... [20:14:59] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> I wonder if the case would get thrown out in court if the cosmetics company were to try to sue Disney! [20:15:34] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> cough [20:17:33] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> That is unlikely [20:17:33] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> @theoneandonlylegroom huh?! We were talking about how Disney had to release a movie under a different title due to trademark issues, and how trademarks can apply only in certain regions and whether trying to sue over a trademark name being used by someone else in another country would hold up in court. [20:17:53] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> As if they would have the resources to sue a large company like Disney anyways. [20:19:17] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> That would depends actually, you can get a general purpose of copyright or a very specific copyright use for a very specific product line. [20:19:44] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> but is it related to Miraheze? [20:19:51] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> Nope [20:20:06] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> Kinda off topic [20:20:10] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> ye [20:20:34] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> on the other hand we're doing on topic stuff in off topic [20:20:38] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ [20:21:09] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-hes-right-you-know-correct-true-right-gif-27174315 [20:25:54] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> Sorry things got mixed up! I just wanted there to be context easily visible for why we were talking about Disneyā€™s Moana and why itā€™s named differently in the EU. [20:29:26] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> There have been a lot of cases like that. Large companies sueing a local shop, which existed before that compagny even existed. They try, but rarely win those. Often they just pay a big sum of money and all the legal costs to change the name of that little shop [20:31:46] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Lewis Hamilton comes to mind. The F1 driver sued a little shop that was called "Hamilton" The shop existed even before 1900 šŸ˜„ [20:32:37] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster> So long as #general isn't getting flooded by conversation and memes that would drown out requests for help, it's generally okay to go off-topic. [20:32:45] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I glanced at that wiki w/ bureau warring and just gotta say - what load of circus shit in there [20:33:17] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Indeed. Childish behaviour [20:33:22] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> absence of bureau is much of the problem tbh [20:33:30] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> You wonder how they got admin [20:33:36] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> just added a bunch of clearly incompatible people to admin and went 'byebye' [20:33:47] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> probably yeah [20:34:05] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> a probable effect when wikis are first come first serve and virtually no qualification is needed to serve [20:34:06] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> Well, weā€™re sure screwed if theyā€™re that childlikeā€¦ šŸ˜… [20:34:52] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> it's finally reaching its peak I think [20:35:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> I hope it just dies quickly [20:35:50] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> It gives a bad reputation [20:36:01] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster> I'm thinking of requesting Extension:UnusedRedirects -- the missing special page. Obviously you want some redirects for searching an external sites. I'm wondering if us offering it leads to bad practice. [20:36:49] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> Anyway, iā€™m off to watch a dragon movie, that is not so disney thing andā€¦ it is also not a chivalrous story [20:37:55] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler, replying to .labster> That is a big nope thing to do because it can easily lead you getting links to various site filled by scams or virus. [20:38:02] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to allaze_eroler> just be aware that the middle of the movie ends up dragon a little [20:38:29] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler, replying to platyellow> Damsel from netflix [20:39:03] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to platyellow> Nicely played šŸ˜„ [20:40:14] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> Honestly, i dont mind a transformation sceneā€¦ also, it could be interpreted as aā€¦ ||romantic thing with a good old bad dragon toy|| [20:40:19] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> XD [20:41:09] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> Joke aside, that bureaucracy problem can be quite annoyingā€¦ [20:41:44] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> Anyway, Iā€™m now away watching that movie [20:48:37] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr, replying to .labster> I assume its use would need a dedicated log to avoid the immediate concern mentioned just after [20:48:44] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> otherwise it would be interesting though niche [20:48:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> What does it do? [20:48:56] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> maybe something to have on individual request via SN to make sure people really need it [20:49:33] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UnusedRedirects [20:53:58] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster, replying to allaze_eroler> I donā€™t understand this security concern. Can you elaborate? [20:57:15] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster> Like, I donā€™t understand it at all [20:57:24] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> No I don't [20:57:55] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> here an example: https://miaruniverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page go click the first link in the welcome page section [20:58:05] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> If I can see the spam I can remove it! [20:59:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to allaze_eroler> And that has what to do with UnusedRedirects [20:59:26] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Also, that link I saw looked like a YouTube link [20:59:27] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> if we enable that redirect feature with a link to a malicious site pretending to be a wiki link. it's considered as dangerous. [20:59:39] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> What are you on [20:59:50] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> if you combine with a script [20:59:57] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It's a special page listing redirects that aren't used by us [21:00:24] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I have genuinely no idea how that could possibly include any malicious links [21:00:54] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> The page already exists [21:01:01] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It just tells you usage [21:02:03] <MirahezeRelay> <allaze_eroler> alright but it's your own right [21:03:33] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Well actually @cosmicalpha owns the risk I think [21:03:48] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It would be Director of Technology's risk [21:03:57] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> But there isn't even an issue [21:04:08] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Your explanation makes no sense based on the feature [21:04:15] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> Whats the issue? [21:04:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @cosmicalpha whose DSRE? [21:04:29] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster> There is no issue apparently [21:04:42] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> isn't this just for INTERNAL links? Not External Links? [21:04:56] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @rodejong well Interwiki with follow too [21:05:28] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> You can't #REDIRECT to an external link [21:05:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Yes, but still only to that what we self have set as regular links [21:05:37] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Correct [21:05:51] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Has to be #REDIRECT [[Link]] [21:05:51] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Link [21:05:52] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Link?action=edit&redlink=1> [21:06:07] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Can't do #REDIRECT [https://.....] [21:06:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> But this wouldn't change the behaviour of redirects at all [21:06:37] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It just tells us whether we use them internally [21:07:53] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha, replying to rhinosf1> I am yeah, wondering what the problem is though? ut I guess there really isn't one? [21:08:11] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster, replying to cosmicalpha> I already said no problem [21:08:19] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> apparently none no [21:08:25] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> I misunderstood an earlier statement [21:08:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to cosmicalpha> Not one I can make sense of but @.labster wants a new extension. I was saying you own any security risk ultimately. [21:08:40] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> then proceeded to crash and miss the above for a few minutes [21:08:48] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> As the responsible director for SRE [21:09:08] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @.labster go request it on phorge or create a PR [21:09:18] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Isn't this extension not just for better SEO? [21:09:26] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> _thinks UnusedRedirects should be a global extension tbh_ [21:09:35] <MirahezeRelay> <claymen> Hi! Quick question, is this queue a live overview, or manually updated once in a while? Asking cause it didn't change for 24h, and i might be simply looking at something static for updates, lol. Thanks in advance. [21:09:38] <MirahezeRelay> <claymen> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue [21:10:04] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> You need to refresh [21:10:13] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Purging [21:10:16] <BrandonWM> It's a live queue [21:10:31] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> I f5 it every so often and it goes fine [21:10:36] <MirahezeRelay> <claymen> Thank you! šŸ˜„ [21:11:02] <BrandonWM> 127 wiki requests today by me.....can I hit 300? [21:11:59] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> yes but I should have gotten a good chunk [21:12:01] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> What did you do? Decline... Decline... Decline... Decline... Decline... Approve ... Decline... Decline... Decline... Decline... Decline... Decline... Approve .... Decline... Decline... Decline... [21:12:05] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> šŸ˜„ [21:12:15] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> been on some other stuff today so haven't been able to relieve I'm afraid [21:12:15] <BrandonWM> Something like that but on hold mainly [21:12:45] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [1/3] Can someone please take a look here? [21:12:45] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [2/3] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1221637162404155533 [21:12:45] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [3/3] This is not good [21:12:53] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> We're aware [21:13:03] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> We monitor #support [21:13:13] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> they got a direct ping, that's the trick [21:13:17] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> it's been escalated and the wiki must be reset [21:13:27] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> I hate revision issues because the wiki is unsavable [21:13:28] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Maybe an answer would be good [21:13:33] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> but notifying it's known might be a good step so people don't think it's missed, yeah [21:14:49] <BrandonWM> Agent: see DMs [21:15:14] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Backups? I hope they have backups [21:49:11] <MirahezeRelay> <acepril11> Thanks lol thatā€™s my wiki in turmoil - thanks for helping w followup! Ugh if that means everything is vanished forever I do at least have everything saved as a backup in files elsewhere so not the end of the world, just mildly annoying lol [21:53:10] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> That's always best indeed [21:53:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Keep a copy [22:28:39] <MirahezeRelay> <c.syde65> Can someone please refresh the ManageWiki cache? Since I can't recreate this usergroup until then. https://csydes.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/interwiki-admin#mw-section-unassigned [22:37:23] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> [1/2] hey, so, this is such a small issue that i doubt it needs a support thread, but; i have a Tooltip template that lets you make hover-over text, and it works fine on every page except for one. Template:Tooltip/styles.css is already sanitized css so i don't know what the issue is [22:37:24] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1225212583947272344/image.png?ex=66204f23&is=660dda23&hm=67469715b6212b3ad8238cced69da130bdfa4c2363288fd1839a39054fb1ed94& [22:41:07] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> correction: make that two pages it's broken on [22:43:31] <MirahezeRelay> <deleted_user_ae05ccd0a28c> have you cleared the cache? [22:45:04] <MirahezeRelay> <.labster> Purge on the page [22:46:51] <MirahezeRelay> <the.king.cube, replying to cosmicalpha> great [22:47:14] <MirahezeRelay> <the.king.cube> now when will the theme extension allows us to make custom themes for core skin, in miraheze [23:12:57] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to the.king.cube> That's been thrown in the bin, a.k.a. not happening šŸ˜› [23:13:46] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to away.from.keyboard> Try to make it CSS and then Sanitize again [23:27:28] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> i did that twice [23:31:50] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Have a link? [23:32:26] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to away.from.keyboard> Have a link? [23:33:13] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> termsofservice.wikitide.org/wiki/Pipe_Wrench / termsofservice.wikitide.org/wiki/Geode are the only two pages i've found which have this issue [23:34:57] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> other pages have these 'Inventory' sections but don't present this issue [23:35:09] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Yeah, you need to purge the page [23:35:38] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> add ```?action=purge``` behind the websites url [23:35:41] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> ah [23:35:44] <MirahezeRelay> <away.from.keyboard> thanks [23:35:54] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> You're very welcome [23:38:02] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [1/2] šŸ’¤ [23:38:02] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [2/2] šŸ›ļø [23:38:12] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> I'm off to dreamland