[00:01:43] the messages that the bureaucrat doesn't want to do anything anymore are key [00:01:58] if you can cite the messages in a local election there is a basis to begin one immediately [00:02:56] preferably the BC empowers someone and I'd give a window of time for that to spare on bureaucracy (shall we say), but if he does not respond in a few more days then I'd go for an LE [00:03:28] Thanks [00:22:13] @agentisai Can you please delete this Wiki ASAP since I want it deleted https://titanic.wikitide.org [00:22:43] Thanks 🙏 [00:34:04] am i straight up insane if i start a wiki right after a wiki i made before passed a few days being active [00:34:18] am i insane for making 3 wikis in 2024 [00:37:05] don't know about insane per se but it would be recommended to keep to the existing ones and see them through [00:38:39] I generally recommend against more than 2-3 growing wikis at a go, as well [00:38:39] Beyond that lies at least a few dead and abandoned projects. [00:38:50] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp41.wikitide.net at [00:38:51] [2/2] Varnish XID 756394389, serving. [00:38:59] Server dead again [00:39:46] @Site Reliability Engineers , hoping not, but our Asia DDoS squad may have returned, see above ^ [00:40:14] This is done, give it a few minutes to creep through cache [00:57:51] Can you upload mp4 videos to miraheze [00:58:03] Last time I went to upload file page I couldn’t [00:58:11] So if you can, how and where [00:58:33] Could someone take a look at the Swallowed Whole Wiki? [00:59:04] [[Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media]] > scroll down to `$wgFileExtensions` and toggle the mp4 extension [00:59:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media [00:59:05] [01:00:23] Thx [01:39:06] Closed for content policy reasons, the administrator has been made aware of specifics [01:53:34] So, what are they going to do? [01:53:57] Fix it or have the wiki deleted, I'd imagine [02:07:23] Which wiki is next to be deleted? [02:09:34] That's really not how this works [02:19:23] Wikis that violate content policy? There’s no set list [03:29:10] How do I add someone to right place [03:32:45] Can you clarify? [03:44:44] You go to <#1222637354519363624> and right click on la.bete and press "Remove From Group" [03:44:49] Then all the issues go away [03:46:52] @koreirose deleted your userpage per request [03:46:56] should return to loginwiki [03:47:05] thanks [03:58:12] Is this a manual process? [04:54:16] If the user has a similar username then it's automatic [04:54:24] Otherwise yes, you tell us who to assign the edits to [05:07:03] Wikitide [05:07:11] 😍 [05:17:18] hm? [05:36:15] I'm here. [05:36:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226042792309035049/image.png?ex=66235454&is=6610df54&hm=e4f291b1da5cda08182f651509d8ba64b5035faf11dc514f84f2ebcc3dee67ff& [05:36:49] well, I'm here in spirit, if not in cache proxy [05:41:28] I would delete your comment, never share your I [05:41:40] Try again [05:41:56] No need to share your IP-address [05:41:58] yep, it's fine rn [05:42:03] also sorry [05:42:09] didn't even notice it was there [05:42:13] This happens every now and then [05:42:14] More for your own privacy 😄 [05:42:23] If you encounter it in the future just refresh the page [05:42:23] ik ik [06:40:11] Orain [06:41:32] insert zoolander mermaid gif about how wiki is the essence of tide [06:44:14] wiki is hawaiian for "quick" from what I know [06:44:26] quicktide [10:31:39] editthis isnt a wikifarm because its slow [11:07:43] Thank you 🙏@notaracham [11:10:40] Hello, I found that selecting upper part of the page will result in page scrolling, can I disable this? [11:12:22] I noticed this happens on almost every MediaWiki site, selecting on upper part will result in page scrolling and it affects my normal usage. [11:13:18] Isn't this something that is determined in your browser? [11:13:55] No I use Firefox [11:13:56] (I have that happening on other non wiki sites as well) [11:13:59] And I just tried other pages it doesn't happen [11:14:23] Like why wouldn't that be able on Firefox? [11:15:04] I took look inside the Firefox codebase and this shouldn't be happen [11:17:31] I stand corrected than. I just never thought of it as annoying. I scroll the text to the middle and then select. [11:18:49] Do you use the VE or the Source? [11:18:58] To those who need this functionality this isn't annoying as only a small portions of the page would trigger that [11:19:10] This happens when viewing pages [11:24:06] [1/8] Try adding this to MediaWiki:Common.css: [11:24:06] [2/8] ```body { [11:24:06] [3/8] overflow: auto !important; [11:24:07] [4/8] -webkit-user-select: auto !important; [11:24:07] [5/8] -moz-user-select: auto !important; [11:24:07] [6/8] -ms-user-select: auto !important; [11:24:07] [7/8] user-select: auto !important; [11:24:08] [8/8] }``` [11:24:45] This code prevents automatic scrolling and text selection by resetting the default styles for these behaviors. [12:06:02] Thanks a lot. [12:10:11] as I'm writing a FAQ for new wiki server I noticed that a part [[Donate]] FAQ lists Miraheze as charity [12:10:11] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Donate [12:10:12] [12:14:28] Oh yea I was meaning to donate earlier but now I've I finally done so. Hope 40 bucks is helpful in this trying time. [12:40:44] https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-chad-meme-dub-gif-25628266 [12:42:03] I love donating to wikis, wikis are so cool and full of helpful information. [12:42:39] I’ve never donated monetarily but i love volunteering here [12:42:59] Even without hats [12:45:39] Time is money [12:57:38] True [12:59:08] [1/25] i managed to clean up my local notice and that is how it turned out as css: ```css [12:59:08] [2/25] .vector-feature-zebra-design-disabled .vector-sitenotice-container { [12:59:08] [3/25] grid-area: siteNotice; [12:59:09] [4/25] position: fixed; [12:59:09] [5/25] z-index: 300; [12:59:09] [6/25] bottom: 4em; [12:59:10] [7/25] width: 25em; [12:59:10] [8/25] padding: 1em; [12:59:10] [9/25] border-radius: .25em; [12:59:11] [10/25] box-shadow: var(--shadow-vignette), var(--shadow-outside); [12:59:11] [11/25] background: var(--secondary); [12:59:12] [12/25] } [12:59:12] [13/25] #siteNotice { [12:59:13] [14/25] font-size: 0.8em; [12:59:13] [15/25] margin: 2em 0 0; [12:59:14] [16/25] position: relative; [12:59:14] [17/25] text-align: left; [12:59:15] [18/25] } [12:59:15] [19/25] .sitedir-ltr .mw-dismissable-notice-close { [12:59:16] [20/25] float: right; [12:59:16] [21/25] margin: -2.5em -.5em 0; [12:59:17] [22/25] } [12:59:17] [23/25] .sitedir-ltr .mw-dismissable-notice-body { [12:59:18] [24/25] margin: 0.5em 1em; [12:59:18] [25/25] }``` [12:59:22] much cleaner for sure [13:27:04] same [13:27:33] :squint: [13:27:52] I personally can't donate monetarily to wikis but I do help out with them with edits :P [13:29:37] Adult + Money + Still living with parents because nothing is for sale OR rent in the area = :nonfungibleryan: [13:31:55] Teenager + spends way too much time on the internet mainly Miraheze + needs to get a job = :EpicFaceMH: [13:33:11] Young adult + gonna finish college + still living with parents + spends a lot of time wikiing = this guy [13:45:07] How to align the bottom text (Discord server) of the infobox to the center? [13:45:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226165808644751400/image.png?ex=6623c6e5&is=661151e5&hm=535620a14980ac8224375b2207821497a07c24286f8c9fe36aea58f2d13ab57a& [13:55:31] what kind of infobox? [13:56:36] the infobox in the screenshot [13:56:46] lol [13:56:50] how you coded it [13:56:56] Portable Infobox [13:57:34] hmmmm [13:57:36] and no I didn't code it [14:10:20] [1/42] i reduced it even further.... ```css [14:10:21] [2/42] @keyframes slide-right { [14:10:21] [3/42] 0% { [14:10:21] [4/42] opacity:0; [14:10:22] [5/42] left: -35em; [14:10:22] [6/42] } [14:10:22] [7/42] 25% { [14:10:22] [8/42] opacity:0; [14:10:23] [9/42] } [14:10:23] [10/42] 75%{ [14:10:24] [11/42] opacity:1; [14:10:24] [12/42] } [14:10:25] [13/42] 100% { [14:10:25] [14/42] opacity:1; [14:10:26] [15/42] left: 2em; [14:10:26] [16/42] } [14:10:27] [17/42] } [14:10:27] [18/42] #siteNotice { [14:10:28] [19/42] font-size: 0.8em; [14:10:28] [20/42] margin: 2em 0 0; [14:10:29] [21/42] position: fixed; [14:10:29] [22/42] text-align: left; [14:10:30] [23/42] z-index: 300; [14:10:30] [24/42] bottom: 4em; [14:10:31] [25/42] width: 25em; [14:10:31] [26/42] padding: 1em; [14:10:32] [27/42] border-radius: .25em; [14:10:32] [28/42] box-shadow: var(--shadow-vignette), var(--shadow-outside); [14:10:33] [29/42] background: var(--secondary); [14:10:33] [30/42] animation: slide-right 1s cubic-bezier(0, 1, 1, 1.5) forwards; [14:10:34] [31/42] } [14:10:34] [32/42] #siteNotice:target { [14:10:35] [33/42] display: none; [14:10:35] [34/42] animation: slide-right 1s cubic-bezier(0, 1, 1, 1.5) reverse; [14:10:36] [35/42] } [14:10:36] [36/42] .sitedir-ltr .mw-dismissable-notice-close { [14:10:37] [37/42] float: right; [14:10:37] [38/42] margin: -2.5em -.5em 0; [14:10:38] [39/42] } [14:10:38] [40/42] .sitedir-ltr .mw-dismissable-notice-body { [14:10:39] [41/42] margin: 0.5em 1em; [14:10:39] [42/42] }``` [14:10:55] the target still not work... [14:21:15] and it's driving me nuts for sure [14:23:35] I've found some wikis have the banner for nomination campaign, but why doesn't my wiki having it? [14:32:59] example? [14:33:45] link? [14:39:54] I checked my history and no longer having the link, but I was browsing a random wiki which has this popped up [14:40:56] What’s you wiki [14:41:07] was that meta wiki [14:41:32] No certainly it was not the Meta wiki [14:43:58] [1/2] Are thumbnails breaking for anyone else? I notice images uploaded after a couple days ago show as broken outside of their direct links (and a very select few before then, pic related) [14:43:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226180608615514142/image.png?ex=6623d4ae&is=66115fae&hm=a01b2534df8af470a40ce14a4a7153cb21348274946c8391ae76c477874aa2ca& [14:44:40] I think I saw mention of this on [[Community Portal]] [14:44:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Portal [14:44:41] [14:44:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal [14:45:00] curse you caps…. [14:52:43] Before I ask in support could you confirm that it's not just me it's broken for? Here's an image where the preview does not show for me (the image is still there on the direct link, thumbnails are just broken), I want to know if it shows for you https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/File:Queen_2023_Winners_Bracket_Final.jpg [14:53:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226182939692503060/image.png?ex=6623d6da&is=661161da&hm=58bb72d6c5d47c8ce753e4ad03b2a0b8e560619e89bcd178f3c7a32f07d3a493& [14:54:11] Alright thanks, that's pretty much the same as what I'm getting [15:05:19] So [15:08:25] so [15:24:20] So this sounds like @Site Reliability Engineers should be notified that there seems to be some ongoing cross-wiki problems with thumbnails and access rights. [15:26:23] The fix in the past from my (limited) technical knowledge was to reset the acl* though that’s a guess and maybe not what’s going on here. [15:32:04] [1/2] OrangeStart ran a Maintenance Script for a user in this thread, which worked: [15:32:04] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1225853741027299491 [15:32:41] After that the images were appearing. [15:33:10] Might be something that should be tried for these users also [15:55:41] can someone remind me, is it possible to make discord widget on Mira? [15:56:44] Check devwiki [16:05:11] No. Not via gadgets at least [16:05:16] Only .js [16:05:48] Can't remember if we have a script on dev. [16:11:10] No, none are available [16:11:40] But I have seen it working on some, but they use js I believe [16:13:05] I guess taken from Fandom [16:13:25] I used it on one wiki back then [16:13:27] Yeah, does look the same [16:18:35] [1/7] Pretty easy to make a js "widget" add this to common.js: [16:18:35] [2/7] ```JS [16:18:35] [3/7] $( '#discord-widget' ).html( 'discord widget code here' ); [16:18:35] [4/7] ``` [16:18:36] [5/7] and then just make an empty [16:18:36] [6/7] ```
/div``` [16:18:36] [7/7] where you want it to appear (can use the same style of code for many other websites too (it just need to be a CSP whitelisted website ofc). It is basic jQuery code really, no need to look at fandom for it [16:20:22] how it's gonna look tho? [16:21:21] Like the discord widget is supposed looks [16:21:38] Could you create a documentation for this on [[dev:]]? (Use: `[[Category:Scripts]]`) [16:21:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Scripts [16:21:39] [16:22:24] I mean I recall different layouts [16:22:50] I'll try, thanks [16:24:11] wait, it's JSON api or just ID? [16:24:44] I mean I am just using the code the normal discord client provides, but I am sure you could craft some custom stuff if you wanted [16:25:56] the "pre-made widget" field in your server settings -> Widget is the one you can just plug and it works [16:30:05] aight [16:44:08] well, this is not what I was imaging, will craft something w/o widget [16:44:59] Very curious what you did imaging then [16:45:23] it like a header, a button, and no members list [16:45:36] I remember you can get some basic custom layouts with simple css, ``background-image: url("https://discordapp.com/api/guilds/[SERVER ID]/widget.png?style=[BANNER TYPE]");`` (banner types here: ). [16:46:06] ah, here we go [17:06:21] But that is for the widget, which was disabled for security reasons. Therefor yoou can't use the gadget for it. Or am I misunderstanding this? [17:06:35] it works [17:06:49] discord iframe is whitelisted [17:07:48] Ah okay [18:18:39] i didn't think this was enough to make a upport forum but i was wondering if anyone can direct me to a good youtube tutorial to make wikis. i found some videos, but do most wiki sites have the same, coding and formatting i guess [18:20:30] depends on what do you mean by "making a wiki" [18:20:50] planing? organization? making up content? [18:20:56] There are many ways to "make a wiki" so you gonna have to be more specific than that [18:21:27] the next step from getting an approved request lmao. sorry im jumping headfirst into miraheze [18:21:34] literally the basics [18:22:30] well, I'd first take a look at existing estabilished wikis close to yours in subject/topic [18:23:04] what's your wiki's theme? [18:24:22] @notaracham And this is the last WikiTide wiki I want deleted http://sixflagsjazzland.wikitide.org [18:24:27] Thanks 🙏 [18:24:37] I want it deleted [18:24:47] ahh fair enough, you can look at the code or whatever of their formatting right? its for a roleplay server. recording lore, characters, events, server information [18:26:15] yeah, not only code but how thing are just composed/presented [18:26:39] i getcha, alright [18:27:30] a lot of fan wikis of fictional media have such pages [18:27:44] they usually have infoboxes [18:27:45] etc [18:28:11] infobox is a card thingy at the begining of article [18:28:52] i also tried finding wikis that had similar formatting to fandom, originally i was going to use that then i saw videos saying to not lmao. do you know of any miraheze ones from the top of your head that sort of looks like fandom? [18:29:33] both Fandom and Miraheze run wikis on the same software [18:29:44] they are essentially same [18:29:56] but Miraheze is more customized and free [18:30:30] how do I make someone a bureaucrat? [18:30:31] ooh [18:31:04] aight ill look at fandom wikis too. ty for the help [18:31:18] [1/2] I currently work on a game wiki, here's character lore "tab" example [18:31:19] [2/2] [18:31:38] i see i see [18:31:44] but yeah, you can look at and take from Fandom wikis as well [18:32:27] got it. thank you! [18:33:01] np, ask if you have more questions [18:33:08] for sure for sure [18:33:38] just in case gonna drop this because newcomers are usually very confused about [[infoboxes]] [18:33:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/infoboxes [18:33:39] [18:37:34] Special:UserRights locally [19:25:27] [1/3] i tried importing my templates but it didn't seem to work, is there something i missed or did wrong? the tutorial in pinned mentions enabling an extension but it never specifies which one [19:25:28] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226251445691486299/image.png?ex=662416a7&is=6611a1a7&hm=3d7028b0c8b94663b242be9b9ca0a722f94dd9e9ef07ce5f3e6885bb48a3bb7e& [19:25:28] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226251446006186014/image.png?ex=662416a7&is=6611a1a7&hm=a66ef33ee177c503cd7407458093541dddd790ad809b30f10ab5cba35a2b313c& [19:26:28] Looks like you have to enable PortableInfobox, you can do that at Special:ManageWiki/extensions [19:26:35] ohhh ok [19:26:37] ty [19:26:37] those tags are from that extension [19:28:03] don't forget to kick template w/ a blank edit or purge cache [19:28:53] [1/2] idk if there was a mistake or not but it just says "enable extension" on the tutorial in pinned [19:28:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226252308216680488/image.png?ex=66241774&is=6611a274&hm=a3baaaccef289eb066dba003141bc56199bc35a5028b5790690164d5eeada354& [19:29:19] it says in earlier section lol [19:29:23] ah ok [19:38:00] fellas, what are legal risks of uploading and usinfon main page logos for links lol [19:38:17] sadly WM Commons doesn't have all logos [19:39:17] Depends what their licenses are [19:39:40] But most would be the same as the ones on commons WM [19:40:20] also I tried to get logos from official web site and they seem to be like [19:40:29] raw svg renders [19:40:34] instead of svg files [19:42:08] Can you send me the link? [19:42:28] [1/2] [19:42:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1226255727941779556/2024-04-06_22_41_15.png?ex=66241aa4&is=6611a5a4&hm=56bf0289d4a93ab706dc041c577b58309a6e3f5cafdc53f36d266ced3332149c& [19:43:06] they don't appear un network [19:43:53] I think this falls in the same category as the ones on WM commons [19:44:33] is there anything else i have to do after enabling it? i tried re-importing the xml, purging the cache, and doing an empty edit but it still looks messed up [19:44:53] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Snoo.svg [19:45:03] yeah I found [19:45:04] it [19:45:05] <.labster, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> You can just save those in a file you know, and they work. SVG is XML. [19:45:08] This logo image consists only of simple geometric shapes or text. It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection, and is therefore in the public domain. Although it is free of copyright restrictions, this image may still be subject to other restrictions. See WP:PD § Fonts and typefaces or Template talk:PD-textlogo for more information. [19:46:07] [1/2] This logo image consists only of simple geometric shapes or text. It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection, and is therefore in the public domain. Although it is free of copyright restrictions, this image may still be subject to other restrictions. See [[WP:PD § Fonts and typefaces]] or [[Template talk:PD-textlog [19:46:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:PD_%c2%a7_Fonts_and_typefaces [19:46:07] [2/2] o]] for more information. [19:46:08] [1/2] [19:46:08] [2/2] [19:52:11] [1/2] wellp [19:52:11] [2/2] [19:53:00] [19:53:10] those descriptions are poor lol [20:35:22] hey can we run jquery on wiki pages?\ [20:38:09] do i have to use lua modules? [20:39:31] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_enhance_wiki_content_with_JavaScript ? [20:43:25] yes [20:43:28] No [20:43:56] Just use MediaWiki:Common.js for JS that applies to all wiki skins and MediaWiki:.js (replace `` with the skin name) for a specific skin [20:44:45] ? [20:45:16] can you drop a link? [20:45:32] if i needed just one snippet for a single page, what would be the best way to go about that? still changing the skin? [20:45:47] just want to edit some css generated by mermaid diagram [20:45:50] https://minuselevation.miraheze.org/wiki/Minus_Elevation_Wiki [20:46:35] [1/6] CSS can be changed for a specific page by enabling the css tag in ManageWiki/extensions and then adding wikitext like this: [20:46:36] [2/6] ``` [20:46:36] [3/6] {{#css: [20:46:36] [4/6] / insert CSS here / [20:46:37] [5/6] }} [20:46:37] [6/6] ``` [20:50:35] seems like the entire wiki needs cache purge [20:50:42] ah [20:50:47] it works tho [20:51:04] ohh thanks! [20:51:18] there's something funky w/ cache as for recent, I suppose you can ask SRE to run script manually for you [20:51:30] yeahhhhh unfortunately i'm trying to override only the X value of a ``translate`` property with x and y [20:51:38] which is impossible with raw css apparently [20:51:43] since each y value is dynamic [20:56:15] so i have to use some jquery stuff or something to regex the y value [21:00:44] so can i use jquery in a page? [21:00:59] yes [21:01:04] when i try to use example (even in template with js content model) it just shows up as text [21:01:52] MediaWiki will refuse to load JavaScript from outside the MediaWiki: or User: namespaces for security reasons [21:02:40] ah ok so i could move my Template:Left_align_mermaid to MediaWiki:Left_align_mermaid? [21:03:56] it seems you're new to JS in MediaWiki, please give https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript a read [21:08:27] how would i do that? [21:09:23] @bluemoon0332 what to do w/ pesky cache ruining templates across all pages? [21:13:55] Yes indeed. We've had several users complaining about it. [21:14:37] Especially red links that won't turn blue [21:23:44] Following up on this :jetflushed: Said pages still aren't deleted and now we're running into issues with moves and deletions of any translatable page, curious to see if anyone's running into this as well or if I should just phab about it [21:25:05] hm, doesn't really look like there's a way to do what i want to do [21:25:07] thank you though [21:26:39] i mean what i'm looking for is to run arbitrary js within a page, which is disabled for good reason [21:26:46] it just makes what i want to do much more difficult [21:33:28] We're not the maintainers for the RemoveRedLinks extension, we can't really help with that. Extension was known broken back when it was approved in Miraheze, only "fix" is completely disabling the Varnish cache, which we'll never do. [21:35:38] No you misunderstand me. [21:36:01] We have a lot of users who create new pages. But the linked words won't turn blue [21:36:18] Normally they turn blue immediately [21:37:53] it's not about remove red links [21:38:59] there's been a few cache shenanigans lately, dunno if SRE have seen the thread on the SN about an import where various things have not updated [21:42:13] It's about pages being written, not turning blue in the navigations, only turn blue after Purging Cache. It doesn't refresh automatically [22:20:06] Hmmmm that video is interesting: https://youtu.be/96SaQyJXj98 [22:20:36] [1/2] 💤 Good night everyone [22:20:37] [2/2] 🛌 [22:21:06] I will too [22:21:56] Ohh you like CSS shenanigans, then watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY1PzHRu2dA [22:58:06] [1/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12019 [22:58:06] [2/2] I did post on issue tracker, regarding exactly the issue we're having with the cache