[00:19:21] Could a Steward maybe check out BettaCallSaul’s [[SR/P]]? It’s been a spell. [00:19:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/P [00:19:22] [00:23:41] <.labster, replying to realcastle> Can you please tell me the relationship between https://kugelniowiki.miraheze.org/ and https://kugelnio2.miraheze.org/ ? [00:25:08] both of them have kugeln.io, clearly [00:30:14] I created a gadget [[Help:MarkAdmins]]. any feedback would be appreciated [00:30:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:MarkAdmins [00:30:16] [00:32:27] the former wiki is owned by kugeln.io, the latter wiki contains an edit war between belly and kugeln.io [00:33:26] love ig [00:33:44] Only complaint is it’s a bit, overzealous 😅 [00:34:02] In adding the any and every link related to a user page [00:34:49] @Stewards, (I was messaged and replied here ) [00:35:30] seems like granting automoderated and proceeding with le is probably the way to go in the likely event the account is tossed but I avoided commenting initially as I might be off in this assessment [00:36:41] realistically a full fledged steward is needed to 'salt' these alts on the spot but I can try a quick check of matters this eve [00:43:46] [1/2] you can customize the page on which the gadget runs [00:43:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1227781100470800455/image.png?ex=6629a741&is=66173241&hm=8bf23b3b80cc4622ac684430e761a9d65add266e1fabce0078a2a858106213bd& [00:46:16] <.labster, replying to realcastle> Can we just close the latter wiki? It sounds like it's against our topic on multiple wikis on the same topic? As well as being for vandalism? [00:48:18] True [00:48:45] I think I would concur with closing the latter wiki [00:48:59] unauthorized fork that slipped through [00:49:07] Ready the space lazer! [00:49:09] going to take a closer look though [00:49:15] https://tenor.com/view/orbital-better-version-laser-orbital-ban-laser-gif-21280664 [00:49:24] Pew pew [00:49:27] if there's recurring vandalism especially it may have information stewards would find useful before blasting from orbit [00:50:09] lazer first question later(for legal reasons of having a RfWC open, THIS IS A JOKE) [00:50:43] I am a perfect good wc yes(no what am I thinking) [00:50:57] oh man cvt wiki is so dated [00:51:09] how bad [00:52:06] names in the recent list I vaguely remember from '22 [00:54:27] everything crumbled after you left steward so [00:54:33] I'd expect it to be frozen in time [00:57:51] thats one way to put it [00:59:34] it's the only way to put it [00:59:52] he resigned, got T&S banned and the schism happened, in the matter of a week [01:01:16] literally tbh [01:01:47] it didn't help I'd yet again overextended myself somewhat keeping bits and pieces afloat [01:02:01] just me was a hit but everyone else going too and that is why you have what I call the dark ages [01:06:48] to follow up on this yeah, realistically it needs a steward to investigate alts and finish off, little that lower CVT can do that is of use [01:07:11] even a lock would be eh as that comes along with a checkup/salting [01:07:28] though if a steward reads this I compiled a quick list of likely related accounts on my cvtwiki userpage [01:52:16] Yeah, the CVT action log appears to be abandoned long ago. [01:52:34] Would be nice to revamp to have a log of those actions again. [02:06:40] manual notices of intervention would be better than nothing I suppose (namely things that would not appear on meta log ie, locks) [02:08:15] yep [02:08:41] Might be nice to have a list of actions performed specifically by GS's for stewards to oversee. [02:09:30] Not that you need oversight 😉 [02:09:33] personally I just like to collaborate to the degree it's more likely than not a steward is involved especially if I'm performing any sort of local intervention [02:09:46] true [02:09:47] regardless of my role tbh [02:10:08] #Loðbrókforpresident2024 [02:10:17] the ideal in my book is that gs work closely enough with stewards that the collaboration is implicit rather than a mandate [02:11:15] but cvtwiki side I also like to try and keep up an internal file on stuff so it's clear who's been in what bushes, and resuming use of the action log probably in a way modified from how it was originally done might be interesting [02:11:31] definitely [02:11:42] and a way to automate it would be handy too [02:11:58] Might also be good to log things like conservatorships, etc. [02:12:28] automate would be tricky, a core reason being the separation of capacity, ie, rollbacking in a local function or as a local admin as I am on a couple places [02:12:40] global function* [02:12:53] definitely not simple, no [02:12:59] conservatorships could have their own intuitively placed list on meta somewhere probably accessible via [[CVT]] [02:12:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CVT [02:13:01] [02:13:22] Retro Windows Wiki is the only one I know that is under essentially permanent conservatorship [02:13:35] Oop [02:13:37] preferably any such action is more temporary [02:14:03] I'd still like to see that wiki get local management but it's still mainly kept up by odd ip editors [02:14:41] there is a mechanism on cvtwiki to list conservatorship so it's at least known internally (believe it or not that was not always the case either) [02:15:45] got it [03:11:11] even though Page Images is set to only select images from section 0, it is selecting images from other sections. is this on us or just things being weird? [03:11:46] for instance, it's pulling images from the living relatives section at the very bottom of the page here ._. https://alpha.sagan4.org/wiki/Walladugger [03:11:59] [1/2] this is the correct image [03:11:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1227818401674694716/Walladugger.png?ex=6629c9fe&is=661754fe&hm=43122107ed80890123988441b37d393f54e6638c212adc81d3de0610e43cca56& [03:13:19] this seems to have just started happening after we rewrote the infobox [03:50:41] <.labster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1227828140974276638/image.png?ex=6629d310&is=66175e10&hm=60015e76d2b1ca48e28a5af12f4732eeec6436ab64d2b13e94744dd43bfebaf7& [05:43:55] Hello is there anyone who can help me now, [05:44:07] About what ? [05:44:35] About Wiki permissions. [06:10:09] <.labster, replying to narendrasinghchhetri> You might need to hold [[local elections]]. Are other people on the wiki active? [06:10:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/local_elections [06:10:10] [06:28:06] Blame jobs [06:36:58] <.labster> So switch to Windows? [06:49:33] Hey, my wiki is supposed to be migrated from WikiTide to Miraheze for days now but it still is not working... Is there anything I can do about it? [06:49:43] Or is there anyone here that can help? [06:50:36] It's probably a bit late/early for the technical team that are dealing with that. I suggest creating a #support thread. [06:50:57] Thank you, I have a support thread but it is not going anywhere... [06:51:13] Which thread [06:51:44] "Migrate wiki.myehs.eu to Miraheze" [06:52:11] Found it [06:52:18] Agent is the right person to ping [06:52:26] Apologies for the delays [06:53:49] It's strange right? As he wanted to migrate it two days ago... [06:55:16] No [06:55:21] Agent is busy [06:55:29] And a volunteer [06:56:18] Please don't worry and someone will make sure it's done as soon as they can [06:57:02] Ok... [07:04:31] flood flag doesn't exist by default isn't? [07:08:17] bot is the only permission it should have? [07:13:39] hmm [07:54:50] ok, I created Flooders group but I can't assign it? :ThinkerMH: [07:56:08] help? [07:59:59] guess I'll just assign Bot lol [08:06:30] After holding local elections who would give me that rights. [08:07:07] Because the founder isn't active. [08:08:38] stewards, you should show them results of those elections (either majorty choosed you or nobody participated at all) [08:14:32] Means I should show the election so how should I do election and where and how? [08:16:18] from what I saw you can start one on talk page of the main page, foe exa,ple [08:16:48] it's like "I nominate myself as new bureau because the original one is absent" [08:16:56] have you tried to contact them tho? [08:17:06] the bureu [08:23:33] I'm sorry to insist, but every new image I import into my wiki is no longer displayed. The rest is fine. [08:23:59] https://sherlockholmes.wikitide.org/wiki/Germany [08:24:54] Before I was asked, I made a request to Issues Tracker, but the task was closed even though the problem had not been completely solved [08:33:16] Yes I have tried doing so. [08:38:54] https://olympics.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page [08:40:22] good 👍 [08:42:10] Is it ok or I have to do something and so on I have to wait 1 weeks more and contact Steward. [10:28:00] Which support thread was this? [10:28:29] That is correct [10:29:29] Not understood. [10:30:31] Do you have a separate thread open where you have asked this? [10:32:20] No, I just created a task on Issue Tracker. [10:32:44] Can you give a link? [10:33:47] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12022 [10:41:01] [1/3] Could you open a https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1019689826762637382 thread and mention the issue again? You can ping OrangeStar in it. In this General chat thread it will likely drown. Add the tag `Technical support` [10:41:01] [2/3] Add the link to your wiki and the Issue-tracker. [10:41:01] [3/3] It is a small group of volunteers and they're swamped. So it might have been overlooked. This way we can keep an eye out. [10:41:21] [1/3] Could you open a https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1019689826762637382 thread and mention the issue again? You can ping OrangeStar in it. In this General chat thread it will likely drown. Add the tag `Technical support` [10:41:21] [2/3] Add the link to your wiki and the Issue-tracker. [10:41:22] [3/3] It is a small group of volunteers and they're swamped. So it might have been overlooked. This way we can keep an eye out. [10:45:01] In the mean time I have reopened the task again and asked for a review. [10:59:11] Okay thanks [13:40:32] hello! i have a question. does anybody know how to make it so that entries starting with 'Appendix:' are counted as special pages as in wiktionary? [13:42:40] you know like how if you type 'appendix' on the search bar it doesnt show any results unless u also type the colon [13:43:09] and how they dont show up when you search content [13:49:35] i’m sorry what do those reactions mean dhhfsbbfsnbdn [13:51:30] though I don't know exactly which option off the top of my head, I would visit Special:ManageWiki/namespaces as what you want will almost certainly be in there (include/exclude from default search, which may have the desired effect in wiktionary) [13:52:27] Yeah you need to create a namespace Appendix [13:53:25] OH [13:53:32] thats right thank you [14:14:41] I am finnboltz, controversial ex-member of the 'Polytope Discord' Discord server and maths lover. [14:39:59] @rodejong ha, didn't realize you tried to say hello to kitty on wikibooks too [14:41:11] [1/3] okay i have another question this one's wayy more specific. does anyone know how to make it so the {{PAGENAME}} command ignores everything before the slash? (having the head of the entry be just '*iti') [14:41:11] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME [14:41:11] [2/3] https://pectionary.miraheze.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Hagt-Laa/*iti [14:41:11] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1227991845544530090/image.png?ex=662a6b86&is=6617f686&hm=0443851fcf50d49ae0e6c9d919243ff53fe8c798a59ec47893c302c453dc7fba& [14:46:39] Yeah. Weird. Can't even say Hello 😮 hahaha [14:48:59] oh well [14:49:33] He/She'll be notified soon enough I guess 😄 [14:57:39] @agentisai is voting open officially? [14:57:48] No [14:57:48] no [14:57:50] I saw you voted lol [14:57:55] Lmao I did [14:58:02] it'll be struck out [14:58:10] we're still debugging it [14:58:11] https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585 [14:58:23] generating the list of eligible voters is hard [14:58:32] Im assuming the fact you can see I voted means it’s not ready lol [14:58:34] especially because the interface doesn't let you do it [14:58:41] it has to be all through sql commands and scripts [14:58:41] Hey I can technically say I was the first vote [14:58:46] heh yes [14:58:47] Dang [14:58:51] once it's open, it'll be announced [14:59:27] Sad [15:02:38] Are we allowed to translate the messages? [15:03:22] (I know a bit of pt br so I could at the least add the translation for yes and no) [15:03:43] I guess so but not all messages are up yet [15:04:31] I mean it’s just yes no and do you want to vote for x [15:06:46] I've noticed that dark mode affects some of my wiki's image files. How do I get dark mode to like, not do that? [15:08:05] The images in question IS of a character dressed in rather bright yellows so I feel like that has something to do with it (seems like it slightly changed hue and saturation in dark mode to be less blinding?) [15:09:44] @agentisai could you check https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1227164567008968785 please? [15:09:57] Curtesy ping [15:11:21] Poor agent [15:11:35] I saw the two pings but I need to be at a computer to debug which will be later unfortunately [15:11:40] It just seems puppet hasn't run [15:11:40] Swamped as he is already [15:11:41] We’re putting this man through a proverbial taffy puller [15:12:00] Who is eligible again [15:12:03] I must've missed that [15:12:29] 60 smt either days of edits I can’t remember [15:12:40] [[Community Directors/2024]] [15:12:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Directors/2024 [15:12:41] [15:12:51] I hate cap sensitivity [15:12:54] if I realized it was a hypercomplex process with sql queries and such I would have voted more strongly for traditional voting tbh [15:13:20] and the caveats on the secure aspect et al [15:13:31] Hindsight is 20/24 [15:15:19] it's always happens, but there's a snippet somewhere here [15:19:23] [1/2] ooh, what are people voting on? [15:19:23] [2/2] Also, I have a question [15:20:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Directors/Elections [15:20:46] Ask away [15:22:32] [1/2] I originally submitted the request to make my wiki specifically around the deca fanfiction series, but as I go through I'm realising that to properly cover all relevant information, we'd end up expanding to at least partially cover other fanfics and some doctor who material. [15:22:33] [2/2] My question is, would it be okay for the wiki to cover things which in the original request form, I didn't think we'd be covering? [15:22:48] Hm [15:23:18] The normal policy is to get stewards approval for scope changes [15:23:27] [1/2] And where could this somewhere be? [15:23:28] [2/2] I assume it has to do with CSS code (which would probably also fix the dark mode fucking up colours on like, all the templates too) but...It's not exactly easy to loom for "dark mode" related posts in here considering there's over 800 results. [15:23:52] [1/2] The Content Policy prohibits to go beyond the scope of what is agreed upon. [15:23:52] [2/2] But some side touches are allowed. [15:23:54] I’d clear it with a steward here [15:24:07] Okay, and, how would I do that? [15:24:15] it has to be consulted w/ stewards [15:24:55] Pick a poor soul from the member list with the steward role and ping lol [15:25:15] Ask Reception123 [15:25:24] Imo since this seems more like a shift then a full change I think just discord should be good instead of a full SR post [15:25:24] He's online I see [15:25:37] Okay, thanks! Will do! [15:25:42] Should I do that in general? [15:26:22] @reception123 hey, could we get a +2 on a small wiki topic change [15:26:28] :nomChocoStrawberry: [15:26:46] that's extremely confusing but very cute, thank you [15:27:41] [1/2] I'm sorry, I don't have much free time [15:27:42] [2/2] I tried to find but only get snippet for logo [15:27:50] So true bestie [15:27:54] Lol [15:28:19] Thank you, this should help! [15:28:30] So, yes general, no general, or cat general? [15:31:15] I already pinged him [15:31:24] He’ll see in a bit™️ [15:31:43] Thanks! [16:04:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228012751268479016/Screenshot_20240411-230332.png?ex=662a7eff&is=661809ff&hm=2a14e70ce149d95ecd0a55a8ed664f2fcfac58047bb906df83b768d9367e1ff7& [16:05:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228013028717363301/Screenshot_20240411-230457.png?ex=662a7f41&is=66180a41&hm=289ff89312af21130c3fbc01af05864b48232a8459d9975495fa6233f2caf1f6& [16:06:01] Yes? [16:08:03] it's working? [16:08:09] l change name [16:08:25] Maths wikis turn to Fanonpedia Tiếng Việt [16:08:56] @pixldev uh, can you change my wikis datebase??? [16:12:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228014780652982342/Screenshot_20240411-231156.png?ex=662a80e3&is=66180be3&hm=120229088430b4c2ecbea69c53553af131e51207c128f883cb8fe9ac0defc900& [16:13:41] No, I cannot. [16:14:06] If your wiki has been created and you need to change your subdomain, please make a [[Phorge]] task [16:14:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [16:14:07] [16:14:13] Why [16:14:21] Ok [16:14:35] Because I am not a Site Engineer. [16:15:28] Thankfully for us all [16:15:52] how about this [16:15:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228015701097189436/Screenshot_20240411-231542.png?ex=662a81be&is=66180cbe&hm=a14751adcd850d0e42421cc9b172cee0b917ac6e83e7868b52823f1946cd86e5& [16:18:00] No. I do not hold any advanced permissions besides Meta Patroller. Submit the request as normal and someone with the appropriate access will action it. [16:18:55] if you are changing scope you must have it authorized by stewards via [[SR/M]] [16:18:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/M [16:18:56] [16:19:21] a math wiki cannot simply become a fanonpedia as that could get it closed for unauthorized deviance from approved scope [16:19:44] when authorized (or if you were already), then check out phorge to make the database change [16:24:08] Oh btw @agentisai your edits to the SecurePoll page don’t seem to be autopatrolled [16:31:24] Import the wiki Bobŕ [16:34:11] too vague/not a clear venue for this [16:34:55] if you're seeking an import from wikitide I suggest a thread in #support tagged as wikitide transfer so it can be addressed in order/not lost [16:35:21] a link of what's being imported from would be helpful as well [16:37:12] @rodejong instead of the indent system which has already made confusion in lab's reply to me, I might suggest using `*` to split comments which can be replied to individually using the reply system [16:37:34] I dont have a wiki named Bobŕ [16:37:42] Is the funny moment [16:39:05] o [16:39:11] I've been in machine mode today [16:40:49] Oh dear [16:55:01] *fanonpedia tiếng việt [17:31:02] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12019 - Any update on what appears to be a cache issue? I have shown fresh screenshots. [17:32:01] It’s a known issue [17:32:15] We recently moved job runners to kaftka [17:32:18] Still a few thinks [17:32:24] Purging the page should work [17:34:15] Doing this for every page when a red link is created feels a bit excessive though [18:01:11] [1/3] my template suddenly got messed up :ThinkingHardMH: [18:01:12] [2/3] the weird thing is that it happens only in plain text, inside templates or `:` or `*` it's alright [18:01:12] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228042178866184242/2024-04-11_20_59_56.png?ex=662a9a67&is=66182567&hm=8d0b0acf22dc36f9b9245917bb6e1d95e9e3a0a91f1c566265dc272fda6c9674& [18:01:30] Burn [18:19:47] I'm completely lost here [18:19:54] it's a goddamn span [18:20:12] it's fine on cached pages [18:20:32] I haven't changed anything that could affect it [18:24:40] Everyone please pray for me 🙏 [18:24:57] I lost my job yesterday [18:31:21] Really sorry to hear that man. Best of luck going forward and to wherever life takes ya, hopefully for the best ❤️ [18:36:19] I’m a woman not a man [18:38:08] [1/2] oh, I think I fixed it [18:38:09] [2/2] I still don't know why it suddenly broke, there were no problems before [18:38:35] had to change div to span in tooltip? [18:43:35] Oh, really sorry about that 😅 I didn’t mean to be insensitive. [18:49:36] Oh, I'm really sorry to hear that, hope you're able to find something better soon ❤️ [18:52:48] [1/2] .....what [18:52:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228055166368878633/Screenshot_2024-04-11_at_11.52.43_AM.png?ex=662aa67f&is=6618317f&hm=b24d1f9551dee3d88c22b8feb922152063ec26402d62dcbf8916db9e35db2175& [18:52:52] cc SecurePoll people [18:53:04] seems pretty clear [18:53:19] you're blocked on at least 1 wiki, therefore your voting rights have been revoked [18:53:24] no bugs here /sarcasm [18:53:54] :p [18:54:02] The wiki is deleted as well 😢 [18:54:07] For policy violations [18:54:29] wait @bluemoon0332 I forget - how often do we drop dbs? [18:54:48] uhhh, we don't cuz it's bugged [18:54:58] ...oh [18:55:05] has it been for a while [18:55:11] yes [18:55:12] A long one [18:55:25] I run into that block issue as well because certain admins for some reason tend to block users who have never contributed [18:55:47] It's quite irritating, yeah [18:56:01] We should have added blocked for violations of local wiki policies or smt [18:56:04] Someone should undelete the wiki, unblock me, and delete it again [18:56:09] y'know [18:56:09] We should perhaps consider relaxing that voting restriction [18:56:23] Hindsight is 20/20 [18:56:28] why are we commenting on an election that hasn't even been opened? [18:56:35] Why… not? [18:56:40] obviously everything between now and the official announcement is a bug [18:56:43] cuz I'm tired of staring at GitHub repos [18:56:44] SecurePoll is hard [18:56:53] This is the first community election we excited [18:56:53] I need some excitement!! [18:57:05] SecurePoll is a pain\ [18:57:26] might just want to do it as a regular vote tbh [18:57:37] the current setup is quite complicated, perhaps unnecessarily [18:57:57] I mean this is what was voted for in the RFC [18:58:26] why you guys picked it if it's pain :ThinkerMH: [18:58:43] I don't think people realized it's so complex [18:59:11] the issue at core here is just the generation of eligible voters [18:59:16] the WMF script doesn't work [18:59:36] Half the board are devs so shiny objects syndrome probably [18:59:48] I think [19:00:00] it was harej who advocated for it [19:00:06] Agent Reception Labster and [19:00:14] Is James a dev? [19:00:20] probably [19:00:25] actually yes [19:00:26] I know he’s the chair for the developer conference [19:00:42] Who is eligible? If it isn't a lot, you could just input them manually [19:00:54] :thonk: [19:01:01] can you guess the number? [19:01:06] Then that’s more then half [19:01:19] 250,000? [19:01:37] somewhere [19:01:41] oh crap [19:01:42] so no [19:01:56] I'm stealing this emoji [19:02:10] I love thonk emoji [19:02:12] Block threshold at 3 still bans me :/ I’m blocked on exactly 3 wikis none of which I’ve ever contributed to [19:02:26] amazing [19:02:39] now I wonder if I am blocked somewhere lol [19:02:42] Like I was saying [19:02:45] Hindsight [19:03:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Legroom according to CA you aren’t [19:03:46] I’m fairly sure I’m not [19:04:02] heh my block history on Meta is....something [19:04:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=PixDeVl shows no blocks [19:04:31] [1/2] em @agentisai [19:04:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228058116768141432/Screenshot_2024-04-11_at_12.04.26_PM.png?ex=662aa93f&is=6618343f&hm=ef768b9e13cf9c7181d3afee7db906bed4a3f6bfc9f0330409bcbd9066e3ee84& [19:04:36] why do I have to patrol you [19:06:41] BWM has 1 block on a wiki with 0 contributions [19:06:50] yep....... [19:06:53] still don't know why [19:07:18] I brought that up before. I think it don’t work though [19:07:38] I tried patrolling it before [19:07:45] I've added autopatrolled to see if it fixes it [19:07:58] I doubt it will because Steward + sysop + everything else [19:08:04] But I tried [19:08:05] Yeah [19:08:40] According to google translate the reason is “The site is closed. An exchange site has been opened” [19:10:28] .....????? [19:10:38] I....am lost with that ne [19:10:50] makes sense [19:11:05] Somebody who actually speaks Hebrew might be able to translate that better [19:11:22] If you've migrated you don't want contributors to keep contributing to the Miraheze wiki, else you end up competing with them [19:14:17] I've made 0 edits 😭 [19:17:23] 🤦‍♂️ [19:17:31] `securepoll_lists` was indeed populated... on `mhglobal` [19:17:40] alright so SecurePoll wasn't broken, I was [19:18:32] MacFan4000: I'm blocked 4 wikis [19:18:55] So a ffs but ends well? [19:21:49] yes [19:21:56] oh good so we're ready to go [19:22:01] cool beans [19:26:19] Can I vote now [19:26:46] a lot of people have gotten ahead of themselves and have done so prematurely [19:26:56] Are we counting those [19:26:59] yes [19:27:02] Harej wanted a test run for SecurePoll but it seems to it works fine [19:27:10] so I'm just waiting for his confirmation [19:27:43] Yay [19:28:41] Do I get to keep the honor of being the first human alive to vote in a Miraheze Community Director Election? [19:28:59] You do because even though I struck your vote, it still appears on the list [19:29:27] 😎 [19:29:41] Should I resubmit then? [19:29:46] Yes [19:31:57] I am blocked on one wiki as well, So I will not be able to vote either 😄 hehe [19:32:09] You should be able to vote [19:32:12] Are you not able to? [19:32:29] Assuming SPID is how many people voted I’m 5th he [19:32:35] The only requirements needed to be able to vote are having over 60 edits [19:32:40] Unless that first vote also incremented [19:32:58] I unstruck your first vote so you're still first [19:33:00] congrats [19:35:44] the vote for the securepoll wasn't all that decisive in the rfc was it [19:37:09] 60 edits on any wiki? [19:41:05] :EpicFaceMH: [19:41:07] We ball [19:41:26] Global I believe [19:41:44] That means I can vote! [19:41:50] I love votinngggg [19:42:04] Democracy [19:43:43] SecurePoll will stop you from voting if you aren't eligible [19:43:48] so if it lets you vote then you're good [19:44:51] What’s the receipts for bye [19:53:12] Ah you do need perms to translate elections [19:53:13] Good [19:54:35] Well if an election admins want to add I did a partial translation of the election text into pt br [19:55:04] [1/3] > Eleição do conselho de administração (2024) [19:55:04] [2/3] >>> Agora é a hora para fazer suas vozes ouvidas! [19:55:04] [3/3] Você pode votar em quantos candidatos quiser. [19:55:08] For title and intro [19:55:43] Yes and no are just “Sim” and “Não” didn’t get to the do you support part [19:58:58] Are you running for a seat? [19:59:10] He is [19:59:14] :squint: [19:59:23] Surely if you are you should not be touching secure poll? [19:59:33] That seems like a huge erm...... [19:59:35] Can you guess why I am? [19:59:41] Everyone else is busy [19:59:53] Fair [19:59:55] That is really dodge imo. [20:00:11] Ideally, someone else should've set up SecurePoll and the election but [20:00:15] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [20:00:32] If every action agent takes now is review and vetted by ElCom it should be eh fine(?) [20:00:36] at least it's encrypted so I can't tamper with votes \;) [20:00:58] Confused because you've just said you unset PixDevl's first vote? [20:01:17] Striking a vote isn't the same as editing what someone voted for [20:01:18] That vote was made before the election formally opened [20:01:19] In testing [20:01:37] No but striking a vote is the same as that vote never having been cast which is essentially the same thing? [20:02:17] I’d assume every strike would be poured over by ElCom so long as there’s a paper trail less evil ig [20:02:18] I won't be auditing the vote in the end so I don't see an issue as the real ElectCom will take over at the end and check every vote and log action [20:02:22] No it's not [20:02:44] and a struck vote can be restored either way [20:02:45] Striking a vote keeps a record of it being cast and of who decided to strike it [20:02:50] It doesn't just delete it [20:02:55] Difference between oversight and db delete [20:03:00] right which is why i phrased it as a question. [20:03:09] Fair [20:03:17] Agent: please tell me you at least didn't generate the encryption key [20:03:23] no [20:03:27] Good [20:03:34] someone unrelated to MH generated it [20:03:42] a well known WMF community member [20:03:51] can they be named [20:03:58] Are they the only holder of the key rn? [20:04:02] can you see what people voted for? [20:04:07] No [20:04:19] You can only see who and when I think [20:04:31] The votes are encrypted so only after they're unencrypted can they be read and tallied [20:04:40] yeah, only who voted [20:04:45] not what they voted for [20:05:09] What’s the PGP thing btw [20:05:12] I'll ask Harej but it probably shouldn't be an issue [20:05:17] GPG is the encryption method [20:05:25] No that you get when you submit [20:05:33] oh [20:05:37] Jimbo is it you!? [20:05:38] I haven't voted yet lol [20:05:48] It called it a receipt [20:05:52] huh [20:05:55] I'm not sure [20:05:58] And very much implied keeping it was optional [20:06:18] ah, you're right [20:06:27] > you may retain the following receipt as evidence of your vote [20:06:41] I kept the one from the first vote [20:07:23] Im actually not sure if my second vote supplanted my first but since they are the same I don’t think it matters [20:07:48] Wonder how you read these [20:07:53] Probably need to decrypt key [20:09:49] The vote log will tell you [20:10:01] Hm? [20:10:02] It should show a first vote struck out and a second still in place [20:10:23] Otherwise a scruitineer will have to manually look at records later [20:11:12] How you read what? [20:11:51] Yeah, I think agent said he unstructured the first one after I submitted the second [20:12:06] The PGP receipt [20:12:10] It'll get picked up [20:12:20] You should be able to verify the signature [20:12:24] Using the public key [20:12:30] From the signing key [20:12:42] Wheres the public key [20:12:50] Wherever someone put it [20:13:09] But I assume the scruitineers will catch your duplicate vote [20:13:20] They should be checking by username & up [20:16:54] Multiple votes seems to be an intention feature [20:17:06] since it cant read votes you can just supplant them [20:17:11] override [20:45:20] I am blocked on one wiki, so not eligible to vote. So let me run secure pole 😄 I am trustworthy and cyber illiterate so I can not temper with anything 😛 [20:45:59] well said [20:46:54] Hey, I'm a bit confused- the home thingy says the votes aren't open yet on the list of candidates, but then people have already voted [20:47:01] Techincally, that's not a ban, so you can still vote [20:50:05] (That was a test i believe) [20:50:12] oh, but there's more htan one [20:50:18] and I though the test had been struck [20:50:27] @pixldev ?? [20:50:36] ↑ [20:57:23] wishdhwhwlskjfw uh i think we good to vote now [20:57:34] on the open non test one [20:57:40] Ah, okay, cool! [20:57:45] wait, which is the non-test? [20:57:59] The one without test in the name [20:58:05] not striked out [20:58:14] [[Special:SecurePoll/1]] [20:58:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/1 [20:58:15] [20:58:34] [[Special:SecurePoll]] [20:58:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll [20:58:35] [21:00:02] Ah, so, not this? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Directors/Elections [21:01:01] ooh I liked that, very easy to do [21:01:10] just check a couple boxes. Easy! [21:03:06] hey guys just wondering like for a show wiki, in a massive block of text would you add a hyperlink every single time another characters name show up? even if it’s multiple times in the same sentence [21:03:34] Hey, I just do it for the first time they appear in each section [21:03:41] I know a lot of other wikis do that, too [21:04:00] I usually add a link the first time yeah. Per bigger section of per article if it's smaller [21:04:06] Yeah that tends to be the norm for wikis with written Manual of Styles [21:04:16] so, for example, if a page on an episode features character "Ellie", hyperlink the first time she's mentioned in the plot, say, and then the next section (for example, cahracter list) link that too [21:04:36] Alright thanks ! [21:17:31] So - I voted on @agentisai @notaracham and @reception123 ! Now that was fun and quick. Can one query a result already? or do you have to wait until the vote closes? [21:17:41] oh is it open now [21:17:48] yes it is [21:17:49] yeee [21:18:18] [[Special:SecurePoll/vote]] [21:18:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote [21:18:19] [21:18:27] It’s impossible to view the contents of a vote if that’s what you mesn [21:18:58] Until the election is over the magic key will be kept safe [21:19:11] Goody [21:19:25] well I hope it's not this link [21:19:41] ok, it's the one minus the /vote bit [21:21:06] [1/2] smooth [21:21:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228092488208748554/2024-04-12_00_20_56.png?ex=662ac942&is=66185442&hm=4c113d519756a32d34f7cef14d5293cbba43a15e66bebcdfaae2f57401cdb133& [21:21:36] Sorry [21:22:06] there's no contest lol [21:22:11] Perhaps someone who can do #announcements could post that voting is open and provide the link to SecurePoll? [21:22:20] And the rename thing [21:24:03] both quite reasonable ^ [21:25:19] Voting is technically not supposed to be open [21:25:25] wellp [21:25:37] We need to finish testing the decryption mechanism before certifying nothing funky will occur [21:25:50] LOL [21:26:01] Oh dear [21:26:13] @.labster your request for IA added exactly 666 bytes [21:26:18] :StrongestOpposeMH: [21:26:23] Oppose!!!! [21:26:30] Once testing has been finished, then we'll announce the vote [21:31:46] Knowing @.labster ... He exactly made sure he came on that number 😄 [21:34:51] 😈 [21:54:50] <.labster> Fun fact 666 in roman numerals is DCLXVI, which is basically the latin equivalent of mashing 123456 on your keyboard. [21:56:28] wow [21:58:18] Hello, it's been 3 days since I applied for a new wiki, when will it be approved? [21:58:55] Which request is that? [22:00:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/43168 [22:00:58] (W bio btw) [22:01:15] Ty 🫶 [22:01:34] I take it too me now [22:02:01] Sorry I didn't understand [22:02:09] What do you mean? [22:02:23] English isn't my first language sorry [22:03:52] I just send you a few questions, to get to know more. [22:04:15] Yes, I just saw them. I'll edit my original request with more detail [22:04:47] please just answer dem in the comment tab 😉 [22:05:12] I thought you’re supposed to edit the request [22:07:12] [1/2] not at all. We rather have that users add to the request, not replace it. [22:07:12] [2/2] But we also have questions that not necessary are suitable for the description. [22:07:43] Oops I edited the request answering your questions 😭 [22:07:47] Thats why I often end with " Please use the "Edit request" tab to add to, but not change, your original description. Thank you." [22:07:54] Sorry mate [22:07:59] You're forgiven 😉 [22:08:11] Will you be able to see the request still? [22:08:16] what i meant appending yeah [22:08:55] Also the main reason I want this wiki is to migrate my existing wiki over to a site that supports image hosting [22:10:12] No offense to your old host but what draconian fossil were you using that didn’t support images [22:10:15] Created [22:10:39] Wikipedia sandbox ☠️ [22:10:50] They don't allow fantasy images on the commons [22:11:37] ☠️ [22:11:40] thats a first [22:11:54] welcome to miraheze get inside now close the door behind you [22:12:22] And don't wake the sleeping neigbours down below 😄 [22:12:34] 🫡 [22:13:24] The hell are the neighbors in this analogy [22:14:16] (using Wikipedia sandbox as a wiki thats a new one) [22:14:26] You poor thing [22:14:50] props for creativity i g [22:14:54] wikipedia sandbox being used as a wiki is very interesting [22:15:10] [1/3] Well... I think it is great. [22:15:11] [2/3] It gives an idea how the wiki will look like. [22:15:11] [3/3] I wished most requests were like that [22:16:52] yeah but like [22:16:57] publictestwiki [22:17:01] Coming from wikipedia sandbox, do the infoboxes work the same? [22:17:22] I made my own sandbox page as a subpage of my user [22:17:27] user/Heatyeet/Krakoa [22:17:28] you need to import your own infoboxes [22:17:41] please don’t import Wikipedia infoboxed [22:17:58] Depends if you will be importing the Wikipedia templates or our own [[dev:TemplateInfobox]] [22:17:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev:TemplateInfobox [22:17:59] [22:18:09] Everytime someone imports a enwiki box a wiki fairy hurls itself off a cliff [22:18:23] I'd prefer the default wikipedia country infobox which is what I have currently [22:18:25] It will work but you need to style it yourself [22:18:29] you should use the portableinfoboxes but if you insist on importing wikipedia infoboxes, go ahead [22:18:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228107014987579422/image.png?ex=662ad6c9&is=661861c9&hm=ec6004c734be457eca52b950b4d770250ad8b9ce2c6542d2e21bb04f80adcd56& [22:18:58] The dev wiki one is your best bet probably won’t takenlong to remake enwiki country box [22:19:00] You need to understand that Wikipedia bxes have soo many dependencies [22:19:20] I have to look into that [22:19:41] there are santitized versions of wikipedia boxes that are infinitely better [22:19:51] It’s like trying to extract the insert random organ here and everything else is wrapped though with veins [22:19:55] gross [22:19:56] as for the whole 9 yards what's wrong with pulling from wikipedia directly, [[wikipedia]] [22:19:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wikipedia [22:19:57] [22:20:00] Could you link [22:20:03] But please use the Infobox from our Dev [22:20:08] Ok [22:20:13] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/TemplateInfobox [22:20:24] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [22:20:55] i thought it was only brandon who did requsts [22:21:06] Nooooww [22:21:08] there's a whole team [22:21:14] There are quite a few of us [22:21:16] it's even said I'm on it [22:21:33] How do I turn the dev box into a country box? [22:21:42] honestly never checked [22:22:07] If you have a few minutes... [22:22:28] [1/2] i think i was the shortest serving one lmao [22:22:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228107930281443348/image.png?ex=662ad7a3&is=661862a3&hm=c1868be82507fbd0a9dfde20980c29f236eed3b08b7b291fd69755f9f9493d03& [22:22:41] Sorry I'm kind of new to all this [22:22:55] I haven't touched my sandbox in a couple months [22:23:06] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_country [22:23:54] So do I just insert this to the top of my page? [22:24:00] The infobox that is [22:24:14] No you need to copy these infoboxes to your wiki [22:24:23] The templates [22:24:40] Your wiki does not have any templates yet [22:25:32] Hey @brandon.wm , I saw that you added a wiki creator to stewards in Module:Othergroups/data. I am currently working on automating this with Waki285-Bot, should I automatically give the wiki creator to the steward as well? [22:25:35] How do I move it over to my wiki? [22:26:36] Hang on. I do these few for you [22:45:12] Yep - stewards are and should be designated as WCs [22:45:29] Ok, i'll change the code later [22:45:35] Bit odd as 3 current stewards have the WC flag and 2 don’t, but yeah [22:47:02] [1/4] Please copy everything from: [22:47:03] [2/4] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [22:47:03] [3/4] to [22:47:03] [4/4] https://krakoa.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [22:47:25] Okay [22:48:33] [1/12] Then add to that file: [22:48:34] [2/12] ```.floatright { [22:48:34] [3/12] margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.5em; [22:48:34] [4/12] clear: right; [22:48:35] [5/12] float: right; [22:48:35] [6/12] } [22:48:35] [7/12] .floatleft { [22:48:36] [8/12] margin: 0 0.5em 0.5em 0; [22:48:36] [9/12] float: left; [22:48:36] [10/12] clear: left; [22:48:36] [11/12] } [22:48:37] [12/12] ``` [22:48:56] Do I add it to the code [22:49:18] Yes [22:49:23] add it to your MediaWiki:Common.css, yes [22:49:54] Done [22:56:44] Now, I have added these infobox templates. [22:57:00] The rest are smaller templates. [22:57:59] [1/3] Thank you 🙏 [22:58:00] [2/3] How can I fix this? [22:58:00] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228116871077695541/image.png?ex=662adff7&is=66186af7&hm=bba10699b4ee4666947afdcacbb05df0fccd923bd97ddf40f2f2b0b0041aa113& [22:59:15] hi!! so sorry to bother, wondering if theres any update on this at all? thank you! [22:59:41] [1/3] What you need to do is to look up that template that is red on Wikipedia. [22:59:41] [2/3] Copy the code to your wiki and make sure that it is on the same page. [22:59:42] [3/3] You do not need to copy the documentation. [23:00:02] Great thanks [23:00:12] You're welcome [23:00:52] Oh also, for the words like Legislature Government, etc. Is there a way to link it back to Wikipedia [23:02:45] am i the only one getting logged out randomly? [23:04:05] nope [23:05:53] For that you can use `[[w:Legislature Government|Legislature Government]]` [23:05:53] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislature_Government [23:06:15] w: will link to wikipedia [23:06:20] @rodejong if you wouldnt mind, could you review my wiki request? [23:06:32] Which one? [23:06:41] #43236 [23:06:50] Mario Kart Wiiki [23:08:39] WikiTide Migration approved [23:08:43] thanks [23:10:54] how do i import a managewiki backup? [23:13:17] @MediaWiki Trusted Support Volunteers advice? [23:15:28] I am not familiar with importing myself [23:35:05] You don't [23:35:12] You send it to SRE who does it [23:41:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228127798250573864/image.png?ex=662aea24&is=66187524&hm=5a3bb628d5b265694eb3877c72398579ff936f09ad584fcdffa33af29ba02f99& [23:41:29] guh? [23:41:42] How do I get rid of this goofy little child inside the box? [23:51:02] fixed [23:51:48] You send the backup to "Site Reliability Engineers" who will than import it.