[00:02:57] [1/2] guys I think the job queue might be slow…. [00:02:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228495604234321920/IMG_4312.png?ex=662c40b0&is=6619cbb0&hm=6f870487af2e9b19464f5e840e50571fa298324adbc815d0ebc97fa6744b4a16& [00:03:17] nice [00:06:51] interesting to hear him [00:07:09] it would be nice to get some of the regular crew in a chat sometime [00:19:19] kek [00:19:27] wdym [00:19:46] heh 9 days late [00:19:51] one big or maybe not so big group chat of some stewards and whomever else [00:20:06] dash of board and other interested people [00:21:48] @Stewards Can someone delete my last WikiTide wiki before the shut down https://sixflagsjazzland.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page Thanks 🙏 [00:21:50] volunteer channel you mean, in a sense [00:22:01] or a podcast? [00:22:39] Miraheze volunteer VC would be interesting [00:22:44] anyone up for a game night? [00:23:38] Minecraft minigames [00:38:21] probably just a one off vc round tbh [00:40:41] For any purposes or just funs [00:42:42] probably just funs [00:44:20] Ever play gartic phone? [00:44:32] nope [00:45:39] https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980 [01:19:32] I spent like several hours writing wiki articles and even uploading pictures, a total of six hours of nonstop typing and editing, which is a bit impressive @brandon.wm, but I'm only pinging this time because I decided to create most of the files for the iNext Fanon wiki myself. [01:20:13] So I basically spent like 6-8 hours doing these things in one sitting. [02:04:02] I’m still unsure why I was pinged [02:14:55] <.labster, replying to agentisai> Yaron also contacted me, I didn't notice until last month though, but it was back in July. [06:18:14] i've always wondered what the point of the <@&870164202868846602> role is if the last time it was used was january 31st... https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1202280277062455366 [06:19:25] it's also an announcements classified channel but none of the annoucements are ever published (meaning servers that follow the channel don't get any notifications) [06:20:09] a lot of the announcements are published [06:20:15] the latest one was [06:20:30] i have the channel followed but none of them are sent 🤔 [06:20:35] odd [06:20:51] try removing and readding the announcement feed [06:21:39] oh now i see why [06:22:08] an announcement channel can't get announcements from a different server apparently [06:28:17] Upon seeing this message I just assume if there's a piece of Agent's voice memo got revealed😂 [06:45:03] Erm why aren't I eligble @agentisai [06:45:28] Have you made 60 edits in the past year? [06:46:14] The criteria doesn't say that [06:46:27] Have been registered for 60 days - yes [06:46:40] Have made at least 10 edits or actions - yes [06:46:57] Not currently subject to a global ban - yes [06:47:02] interesting [06:47:20] 10 log actions then, huh [06:47:37] yeah, SecurePoll is terrible [06:48:05] I'll have to re-edit the global edit list script and recreate the editcount table on all wikis [06:48:27] @cosmicalpha @reception123 can you handle perhaps? I won't be able to at all for the next month [06:48:35] It seems you've put that in the global notice too [06:48:39] Which is incorrect [06:48:54] So that global notice needs to be withdrawn and very clearly replaced [06:48:56] indeed but I guess it's technically correct for now because it won't let anyone without that requirement vote [06:49:16] Well yes once the error is fixed [06:49:23] I'm off to sleep, I'm sure someone will be able to fix [06:49:44] But very clear notice should be given to anyone who may have attempted to vote and been unable to do so [06:50:21] And I suggest extending the deadline to vote to replace the time lost [06:50:27] @MediaWiki Engineers [06:50:48] Well, there's a whole month left [06:52:36] That still doesn't mean the vote wasn't truly open to I'll guess a fair number of eligible people [06:52:55] 60 edits in the last year v 10 edits or actions ever are wildly different criteria [06:56:29] only the people who are likely to notice the vote in the first place will vote then \:P [07:14:38] I'm not impressed with that sentence in the slightest [07:16:14] If I'm not happy with the response during the election and I don't think all voters who were eligible had fair opportunity to vote based on the community RfC, I will create one to have the vote struck as null and void. [07:58:35] [1/3] @brandon.wm [07:58:36] [2/3] pls grant flooder to Agent [07:58:36] [3/3] Agent is probably trying to block a very large number of ranges, and its current IP is 45., so a week or so would be appropriate [08:08:48] MacFan4000, @brandon.wm: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Waki285-Bot_%28Bot%29 [08:29:26] [1/2] block logs go brrrr [08:29:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228623066574094378/image.png?ex=662cb765&is=661a4265&hm=ef36840e135dd194e2c66273707f67ddb3b99d9a23e921a47a1e1967c63e91fa& [08:32:22] Aeibl: do you know your request number [08:32:42] No not sure...Where can I find it? [08:33:23] Aeibl: what's your username [08:33:29] Aeibl [08:34:48] It should be handled in the next day or 2 [08:35:07] It looks fine to me [08:35:43] Aeibl: I assume all your students are over 13 based on the description [08:36:02] Cc @Wiki Creators [08:36:26] Yes, of course [08:36:34] Thanks for the information! :) [08:44:07] What can I do for you? [08:46:45] I'm the only one who goes 'eh' seeing the volume it seems [08:46:51] re agent blocking [08:49:43] Have a nice day all of you :) [08:50:21] you too [08:51:59] [1/2] why specifically before feb 11? :ThinkerMH: [08:51:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228628741056626769/image.png?ex=662cbcae&is=661a47ae&hm=61259cdc16dd5e8f248ac142e3a344a7d57cfb2e1a2401ed37d7476298084aa9& [08:53:07] account age to establish stake presumably [08:53:24] I'm sure it makes sense somehow paired with the timeline ie how 7 days would be used elsewhere [09:50:04] that is one day later than my birthday lol.... [10:10:00] Hello I wanted to advance permission on the test wiki but it denies requests from Tor exit nodes anyone who can help me with it? [10:13:23] you'll have to get an exception for Tor [10:14:39] How to do it [10:24:07] What's your username [10:24:09] I can do that [10:24:14] What do you want [10:24:23] Liaochina and Liao [10:24:35] I need to enable tests on testing pages [10:24:50] And allowing to test extensions and admin rights [10:24:55] Ok [10:24:59] I'll add admin [10:24:59] Thanks [10:25:04] Thank you [10:26:49] @li.ao have you logged into to testwiki with Liao yet? [10:26:58] No [10:27:18] Please do so [10:27:19] Sorry I forgot I don't have a profile for this user [10:27:25] Then I can press the magic buttons [10:27:32] I did Liaochina [10:27:44] Yes it sounds like magic so let me log in with that user first [10:33:26] I tried signing in. Can you see it now? [10:34:31] All done @li.ao [10:34:40] Thanks a lot! [10:36:02] No problem, happy testing! [10:36:35] what exactly happened here? [10:37:41] Someone setup SecurePoll's eligibility list wrong [10:37:46] So it needs redoing [10:37:54] So people who should be allowed to vote can [10:38:06] you can't vote? [10:38:33] Nope [10:38:53] Cause someone setup the eligibility list as over 60 edits in the last year [10:38:58] Instead of 10 ever [10:39:54] [1/2] "Must have an account age of at least six months from the first day of voting and made at least 60 edits or log actions globally by time of nomination" [10:39:54] [2/2] Looks like it should be 60 edits OR log actions ever [10:40:13] according to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Directors/Elections [10:40:14] That's candidate [10:40:18] Read the voter bit [10:40:21] oops [10:40:33] yep ten ever [10:40:52] That needs fixing asap [10:41:05] agree [10:41:20] Can you? [10:41:41] Cause if someone doesn't fairly soon I will move to have the whole thing nullified [10:45:03] technically I can, of course [10:45:37] but I don't think I should touch that election tbh [10:47:16] @orduin is likely better suited than me for that as a dual SRE/Steward involved in running the election [11:01:38] I wanna import the Template:Infobox officeholder but it pops up error [11:01:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228661422939181137/image.png?ex=662cdb1e&is=661a661e&hm=1ab5094b4913511347d7b3b631eae4ee33fc730e29d5f1f93895d390b79b4267& [11:09:45] How can we avoid line jumps when editing? [11:09:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228663472011612170/Screenshot_2024-04-13_at_13.09.54.png?ex=662cdd07&is=661a6807&hm=b996879ff6c8accc7b22f46fe9657ef12334e807c7dd5be86b3f0b83f16c6c7a& [11:14:48] > Please note that if the file is a bit large (~ >2MB) you will need to [request an import](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImport) as this cannot be done here due to technical limitations. [11:15:06] i'm assuming it is a somewhat large file based on the timeout [11:23:04] Ok [11:33:09] 28 votes already! [11:46:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228672720875687987/image.png?ex=662ce5a4&is=661a70a4&hm=d1128c0543913c1fb5a3644cee45c80b0059f946f2c77f36a40271ea2eb0ab46& [11:47:06] there's a way to replace the incumbent thing to the wikipedia article [12:27:44] [1/2] supported all three candidates [12:27:44] [2/2] though i noticed that that the support and oppose were switched on NotAracham's ballot [12:27:53] Why is support at different place that's tricky as hell [12:27:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1228683092638695454/Screenshot_2024-04-13-14-27-15-287_org.mozilla.firefox-edit.jpg?ex=662cef4d&is=661a7a4d&hm=c7cf232b6771ede87dc8f0f993c11ae9102c37eddcc67cca476fd395ff136371& [12:28:58] i agree, it's irregular [12:30:25] NA is just a little mischievous [13:00:21] The election commitee has been notified [13:00:27] This too [13:02:07] Who is that committee ? [13:05:11] just woke up, what’s going on? [13:05:35] Read it [13:05:42] You reverted some edits [13:05:51] It's my opinion on the situation [13:08:32] I think MacFan4000's block should be overturned and replaced with the bot's soft stop tbh [13:09:03] and bot refused until it's appropriate for it to work without oversight [13:10:26] Hmmm [13:11:08] cc Meta sysops: this is exactly where a communal channel for discussion would be nice. [13:11:50] Also @agentisai in the future, please do add flooder when mass-blocking as it does tend to stuff RC and there have been 2 requests for it now to be added. [13:14:31] Why does there need to be a sysop channel [13:14:43] Why can't that discussion happen here or on wiki [13:14:56] It should be all on wiki tbh [13:15:04] Maybe just a Miraheze meta Channel, I’ve encountered use for it here before [13:16:48] Not to discuss the RfP but to further understand why the block occurred, what the thought processes were [13:16:59] Similar to why CVT and WC channels exist [13:17:50] Probably not much thought tbh [13:58:36] As for blocking, MacFan explains "please be aware that I have blocked your bot, as it is necessary to request a bot flag and have approval for whatever use cases you have in mind, before you start running it." However, I did not think that a flag was always required to run a bot, and it does not seem easy to find such a statement in [[Meta:Bots]]. [13:58:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Bots [13:58:37]

[13:59:56] It's been unblocked - I personally approved it [14:00:12] When I granted confirmed to the bot [14:01:05] confirmed was necessary. without it, OAuth cannot be proposed + captcha is required, and the bot cannot be operated even temporarily [14:02:49] Yeah, it's fine. Just make sure if something happens to the bot, that you ping Meta sysops here immediately to block [14:03:11] Once the issues with the bot that still exist are resolved, follow up on the open request and we'll look into granting the permanent flag. [14:08:46] I have started the Bot again and there does not appear to be a problem in all tasks. I will see how it goes for the next 3 days. If it looks like there is a problem, change the status to false or block it. [14:09:06] Will do. Also, quick question, isn't the list of https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-MarkAdmins-data.json supposed to be alphabetical? [14:09:16] It is mainly but at the bottom, a few are out of place [14:10:23] I never stopped flooding the RC, it's just that people have been removing or adding it to me temporarily [14:11:30] 🤔 I've added it for 7 days [14:11:44] I meant before that [14:11:50] Ah [14:11:53] Is it all done now? [14:12:03] No, it's just that my computer keeps falling asleep [14:12:13] Ahh okay [14:12:14] this is due to the fact that the MA Updater acquires in the order of local group -> global group -> trustandsafety [14:12:27] -_- got it, makes sense [14:12:54] Yeah I dunno why people are adding and removing constantly but hopefully that's mitigated in the future [14:58:35] Do you prefer Vector 2022 or Timeless? [15:00:42] Timeless but twinkle don’t like it [15:01:49] Timeless is alright [15:02:01] I feel Vector 2022 looks good wit no styles but Timeless can look amazing if tat is what those Wiki.gg wikis are using with the added CSS [15:02:53] Wiki.gg uses vector [15:03:14] Imo, the perfect use of a wiki skin is minecraft.wiki hands down [15:03:53] Does it really use vector? I hope this keyboard works better [15:04:18] The other keyboard had a dead "h" key making a lot of words a pain to type [15:04:29] [1/2] Dunno if it is vector 2010 or 2022, but it has the width of 2010 and the fixed toc [15:04:30] [2/2] And the design/css is high quality, like plain old vector is alright, but colorful vector wikis are beautiful [15:05:02] I wish I could have such lovly CSS as well [15:06:15] I do like how Vector 2022 has those hide away TOC/Sidebar and the full screen toggle [15:07:10] Also, I like how the TOC scrolls with where you are on the wiki page [15:07:37] wiki.gg def uses old vector [15:07:48] they just slap a lot of CSS + JS over it [15:07:59]