[00:54:52] [1/2] um... [00:54:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229233450016571433/undVKCx.png?ex=662eefdc&is=661c7adc&hm=e1f26073d0c5cce30564420d48cf477dcfffea36684e6b5f6c0cc6ba1522645a& [01:54:26] [1/2] how do i get rid of this white bar? for reference this is the infobox and this is the page [01:54:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229248436583268362/Screenshot_2024-04-14_22.52.26.png?ex=662efdd1&is=661c88d1&hm=83a1d66b61aa72d9c0a5053ea9a20f5026c9082b0f99d24e49df19bedfe0df72& [01:55:03] just wanna know what i should do with the infobox's source code to fix this [02:43:10] [1/2] Hi! Sorry for asking all the sudden! [02:43:11] [2/2] The wiki I browse is being vandalized and the admin of said wiki is currently offline, may I ask for the help directly here? [02:45:44] #cvt is more appropriate [02:45:49] Thanks! [03:13:34] how do i add code to my wikis localSettings.php? [03:13:38] do i have to make a phab task? [03:13:54] if the setting isn't in [[Special:ManageWiki]] then yes [03:13:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki [03:13:55] [03:14:00] You could [03:14:10] If you want to and know how [03:14:31] you could also directly make a pull request on [[github:miraheze/mw-config]] [03:14:31] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config [03:15:08] 4 years "using" git and i still dont how pull requests work lol [03:15:15] what are you trying to do exactly [03:15:33] GitHub's fancy toys carry me :) [03:16:11] [1/2] make core namespace names lowercase using like `$wgExtraNamespaces[NS_TEMPLATE] = "template";` [03:16:11] [2/2] i tested it on a private test wiki and it worked [03:16:31] Hm [03:16:34] [[Phorge]] [03:16:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [03:16:35] [03:16:41] Gonna look into this [03:16:56] You may need a short phab task just to prove your a crat on the wiki [03:17:22] i could make a new locale with the lowercase namespace names but then the wiki technically wont be english [03:17:58] wgExtraNamespaces looks to be just ManageWiki/namespaces [03:18:54] You could make an alias namespace I think [03:20:03] if i make an alias `template:` when i go to that itll just redirect to `Template:` [03:20:43] Hm [03:20:51] [1/2] its grayed out for some tho [03:20:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229270187161817159/Screenshot_20240415_102040_Chrome.png?ex=662f1213&is=661c9d13&hm=57bc159fe111b8b6108a1c75cf6999baa78e20f2d1ed4718374113bfcd2f6b13& [03:21:00] i cant change User: [03:21:53] This is a bit outside of my experience, but I don't think you'd be able to change corenamespaces like Template and User. [03:22:25] Someone with more expertise in this area would obviously be better suited [03:22:59] i think i know: this [03:26:07] There have been cases in the past where someone modified the `Special:` namespace, causing their wiki to break; the restriction on core namespaces could've been implemented in response to that [03:26:35] wait, i can make a phab task to get localSettings.php access? [03:26:39] Probable [03:26:49] No @ap.png [03:26:59] ? [03:27:04] oh [03:27:15] We have one localsettings.php file that holds settings for all wikis [03:27:31] [1/2] huh [03:27:32] [2/2] how do people make pwa's then [03:27:41] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/source/mediawiki-configuration/browse/master/LocalSettings.php [03:27:57] Submitting Pull Requests to add to the file [03:28:24] isnt that just the default one for a new wiki [03:28:29] idk lol [03:28:52] As an example on another file https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/R9:e59e160a850a58681676003e0c3805ca965bf1ba [03:28:57] Normally yes [03:29:10] Our infastructure is a bit different from a single wiki [03:29:27] Since managewiki has most common settings. [03:30:36] If it needs to be manual in a PHP file we add it to LocalSettings.php under the wiki's database name to apply to the correct wiki and not the entire farm [03:30:39] Make sense? [03:31:33] ah [03:31:36] ok [03:33:48] [1/2] i did the same thing i did with Template: and it seems to work just fine [03:33:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229273441887326229/Screenshot_20240415_103341_Chrome.png?ex=662f151b&is=661ca01b&hm=6da36c247317340f6c2fdf78b3e28466fa19abe79c61775dd1ff51c64716be71& [03:35:17] .fun thats a full TLD [03:36:01] s/full/fun [03:37:08] wdym lol [03:44:41] @suzuneu wdym? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition?curid=8386&diff=388348&oldid=388115 [03:45:02] [1/2] literally my test wiki's localsettings.php [03:45:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229276270831996969/Screenshot_20240415_104439_Chrome.png?ex=662f17bd&is=661ca2bd&hm=7f993220a1492b480c738f32722b0371ac36806839cdc67292f1cae3f2633f6c& [03:45:31] MassPatrol needs patrol rights i think [03:45:47] If this gadget doesn't require patrol rights, revert please [03:46:35] I think so yes [03:50:50] it does [05:11:48] @serverlessharej this is now done and can be pingable via @Election Committee [05:48:37] What happened when they did that? [05:59:31] Many things break in weird ways [05:59:40] Yea ik [06:25:09] it does, I just didn't add that restriction initially so I could test that it was at least loading, since I myself didn't have patrol rights [06:25:19] I wanted to add that but I kinda forgot [07:23:18] @bluemoon0332 do you just want patroller permanently [07:23:23] or for the time period you asked for [08:25:01] Hey @brandon.wm, I noticed you rewrote trustandsafety to trust-and-safety in othergroups. My bot has priority over this one because the T&S group ID is trustandsafety, should I change it? [08:38:42] Can you add caption to the image in infobox? [08:42:42] yes, depending on which kind of infobox [08:42:45] |caption= text [08:43:40] does not show anything [08:43:51] I guess i need to add some code for that? [08:43:52] Link? [08:44:27] for the template or? [08:44:40] No at the page you want to add it [08:45:13] uhh my wiki is private should I add you? [08:45:36] You can yeah [08:45:54] But I need to visit your main page fiirst [08:46:04] what's your miraheze username? [08:46:16] Rodejong. [08:46:45] hmm [08:46:51] "There is no user by the name "Rodejong". Check your spelling. " [08:46:57] even when I added the period at the end [08:47:19] im at user rights page [08:47:31] That is what I said. I need to visit your Main page first to get my account connected to your wiki [08:47:40] https://nfs.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [08:48:10] Try again now [08:48:29] added [08:48:32] expires in one day [08:48:54] and [here's the page](https://nfs.miraheze.org/wiki/NFSMods) I was trying to edit the infobox to show the caption [08:52:03] [1/13] Yeah. [08:52:03] [2/13] ``` [08:52:03] [3/13] [08:52:03] [4/13] <default>{{PAGENAME}}/default/title [08:52:03] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME [08:52:04] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [5/13] <image source="image"> [08:52:04] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [6/13] <caption>{{Caption}}/caption <!-- Add this line for the caption --> [08:52:04] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Caption [08:52:04] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [7/13] /image [08:52:05] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [8/13] <data source="url"><label>Website URL/label/data [08:52:05] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [9/13] <data source="date"><label>Date created/label/data [08:52:05] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [10/13] <data source="owner"><label>Owner/label/data [08:52:06] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [11/13] <data source="discord">/data [08:52:06] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [12/13] /infobox``` [08:52:07] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [13/13] You need to add `<caption>{{Caption}}/caption [08:52:07] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Caption [08:52:07] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Caption?action=edit&redlink=1> [08:52:38] <MirahezeRelay> <spikyyn> got it, thx [08:54:33] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> You're welcome. You can remove the rights again [09:59:06] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Hello I am facing problem of <translate> /translate how can be this removed. [10:09:46] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> What is the problem exactly? [10:15:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Wait [10:16:21] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> https://britishroyalty.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests [10:19:13] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Actually I am replacing it with consul [10:24:07] <MirahezeRelay> <elliethepwincess> you don't have the Translate extension enabled so those tags aren't working [10:27:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> How do I install it [10:27:55] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-specialpages [10:28:05] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Enable Translation [10:29:10] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-other [10:29:31] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Enable: UniversalLanguageSelector [10:30:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> do you need translation functionality tho? [10:30:19] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Good question indeed [10:30:37] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> I can't enable translate it can't be clicked [10:30:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you are not a bureau on that wiki? [10:31:02] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Yes I am [10:31:39] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Are you logged in? [10:31:39] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> I am bureau I can access others but not that [10:31:43] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Translate [10:31:45] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> One [10:32:12] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> [1/2] Requires: Extensions - universallanguageselector [10:32:12] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> [2/2] Special page for translating MediaWiki and beyond [10:32:27] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> enable that first [10:32:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> then save [10:32:31] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [1/2] Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-other [10:32:31] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [2/2] Enable: UniversalLanguageSelector [10:32:37] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> then enable translate [10:32:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> right? [10:35:12] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> I have enabled but still showing same problem [10:36:45] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika, replying to rodejong> I have enabled Translate option then restarted but Sam problem is showing [10:37:20] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Please refresh the page [10:37:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [1/3] add ```?action=purge``` behind the websites url [10:37:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [2/3] wiki/pagename?action=purge [10:37:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [3/3] replace pagename with the page you are on [10:37:55] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Tried refreshing and restarting but it works [10:38:18] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Okay 👍🏻 [10:38:47] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> It not works [10:38:53] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> I mean not working [10:38:58] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> oh [10:39:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Sorry done [10:39:39] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Worked [10:39:50] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Good 🙂 [10:42:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [1/13] TIP: [10:42:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [2/13] Please add the following to your MediaWIki:Common.css [10:42:26] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [3/13] ```.floatright { [10:42:26] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [4/13] margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.5em; [10:42:26] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [5/13] clear: right; [10:42:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [6/13] float: right; [10:42:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [7/13] } [10:42:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [8/13] .floatleft { [10:42:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [9/13] margin: 0 0.5em 0.5em 0; [10:42:28] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [10/13] float: left; [10:42:28] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [11/13] clear: left; [10:42:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [12/13] } [10:42:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to rismika> [13/13] ``` [10:42:48] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Then your infoboxes will move to the right side of the page [10:59:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Ok [11:00:35] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> Actually I made a new user right named Consul but why does it become lower case I added as Consul but it came as lowercase consul [11:09:07] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> Hello [11:09:24] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> Where is "Source URL" button in file uploader [11:11:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to p0ggl> you need to enable this in wiki's settings first, Media tab [11:12:00] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] what of these [11:12:01] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229388755039682641/image.png?ex=662f8080&is=661d0b80&hm=45b7e223d5e26d735072c765446a48f25edd06a9356bfa2b7f9a4bd3b8dd91f0& [11:12:14] <MirahezeRelay> <elliethepwincess, replying to p0ggl> [[Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media]] (on your wiki) [11:12:14] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media [11:12:14] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media> [11:13:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to p0ggl> это расшерения, а нужны настройки [11:13:55] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> ah [11:16:43] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> i turned url upload on but it still doesnt have the button [11:16:58] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> wait a bit, kick the cache w/ purge maybe [11:17:08] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229390047778701342/image.png?ex=662f81b4&is=661d0cb4&hm=b598411284141f3a827688783320c66894484d176bd6fbc584c6de493a039c5b& [11:17:10] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> okay [11:20:05] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yes, it has appeared now [11:20:51] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] Now it say me this when i try to upload it with url [11:20:51] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229390981057613925/image.png?ex=662f8292&is=661d0d92&hm=bfcb06ad9ed07c24caa28d78b3f9ba0f1088d7a033e94b99d5db91170443649b& [11:21:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> now you check the same Media settings, but which file formats are allowed [11:22:25] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229391374780993628/image.png?ex=662f82f0&is=661d0df0&hm=f572ad5168ef1cbe4f6bb11b33d0fce9a19859fbb0bfe8af90b85381da86d33b& [11:23:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, now click on that field and you'll see a long dropdown [11:23:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> find txt and html in it, click and save [11:23:59] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> there is no html [11:24:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> then it's not poosible [11:24:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I had doubts [11:25:36] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> wait it is not possible to load files from youtube? [11:25:42] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> btw where i can see media of my wiki [11:27:01] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what? html format [11:27:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what are you trying to upload? [11:28:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> allso `Special:NewFiles` or `Special:ListFiles` [11:28:26] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> youtube video [11:28:41] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229392951730507927/image.png?ex=662f8468&is=661d0f68&hm=12ff1491cbf8212b985015be06f5a67b995bd57d104476816d92ebdf662fb91a& [11:28:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> huh [11:28:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ofc you can't [11:28:59] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it's a whole page [11:29:04] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> not the video itself [11:29:23] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> to insert YouTube videos you need YouTube extension [11:30:12] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> so i toggled it on [11:30:17] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> what should i do next [11:30:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you can use `<youtube>` tags in articles/templates [11:30:37] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> read the documentaion [11:30:46] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> where can i read it [11:31:24] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> by clicking on extension name in that page where you enable them [11:31:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [[mw:Extension:YouTube]] [11:31:31] <wm-bot> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:YouTube [11:31:32] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:YouTube> [11:37:55] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> how do i write signature under or over video from youtube [11:38:07] <MirahezeRelay> <p0ggl> it isnt mentiones in the help page [11:40:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> make it as template [11:41:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> where caption is like `{{#if:{{{caption|}}}|<br>{{{caption|}}}}}` [11:41:22] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template:%7b%7b%7bcaption [12:18:31] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to rismika> You need to create two pages [12:18:50] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu> [1/2] `MediaWiki:Group-consul`: `Consuls` [12:18:51] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu> [2/2] `MediaWiki:Group-consul-member`: `consul` [12:19:14] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu> (if you created group name 'consul') [13:39:32] <MirahezeRelay> <reception123> ack [13:51:46] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332, replying to brandon.wm> nah [14:17:19] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika, replying to suzuneu> I can't understood [14:19:50] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> [1/2] And I am having this problem [14:19:51] <MirahezeRelay> <rismika> [2/2] Cite error: <ref> tags exist for a group named "lower-alpha", but no corresponding <references group="lower-alpha"/> tag was found [14:20:15] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to rismika> [1/4] MediaWiki group has two concepts: group IDs and group names. [14:20:16] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to rismika> [2/4] A group ID is what you can register from ManageWiki, and as far as I know this ID cannot contain uppercase letters. [14:20:16] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to rismika> [3/4] The group name is referenced from the MediaWiki namespace and can be any name you like. [14:20:16] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to rismika> [4/4] For example, there is a group called Administrator, whose group ID is sysop and whose group name is managed by MediaWiki:Group-sysop. [14:21:20] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu> The difference between Group-xxx and Group-xxx-member is that the former is plural (and begins with a capital letter) and the latter is singular [15:35:53] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> Why were people talking about canceling the Miraheze election yesterday? [15:36:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> borked settings of system/extension thingy, I guess [15:36:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Not sure, something to do with no all people being able to vote? [15:37:29] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> I hope everything is OK with the votes now! The face that WikiTide’s first election is having issues like this is concerning. [15:40:40] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to mrbradlerz> There have been issues with the voter roll and a lack of communication from the @Board Elections Committee. That has raised concerns over whether the election is being conducted fairly. [15:42:27] <MirahezeRelay> <serverlessharej> If anyone is having issues voting despite being qualified please contact ts@wikitide.org or ping Elections Committee on Discord. We are working to iron out any bugs we can. We can extend the duration of voting if need be. [15:43:51] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to serverlessharej> Has @theburningfirethatscorchessouls's in #Vote issue been fixed? [15:44:08] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> And can we have that put in #announcements [15:45:49] <MirahezeRelay> <serverlessharej> I think @agentisai is in the best position to give an update there [15:46:14] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> I was on a plane for the majority of the day yesterday so I wasn't able to debug [15:46:34] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> I'm not even sure why they're not on there when they should meet the requirements set in populateEditCount [15:47:22] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Thanks @agentisai [15:47:32] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @serverlessharej can we have an #announcements to say email if issues [15:50:52] <MirahezeRelay> <treeislifee> well, today's the day [15:51:07] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> rip [15:51:08] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> Ideally if possible maybe even have on any "error" messages when trying to vote saying something about if people think that is wrong to email that address too(no idea if that is at all feasible to do though ofc) [16:04:56] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to gummiel> Could be done easily [16:12:21] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> time to put my IA rights to good use ig [16:23:00] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Securepoll-not-in-list message added [16:32:27] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> To my understanding there was one early issue with voter roll criteria that was identified and fixed promptly after voting began, after which only one user has reported issues with voting eligibility, to my understanding. As mentioned by Harej in announcements though, please do reach out if you're having further challenges w/ voter eligibility. [17:09:42] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Meta_extended_confirmed_users seems like Silicona is planning another RFC [17:11:39] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Hmmm, I'm not sure if that topic falls cleanly into community or only-SRE purview, there's a chance it might not be a valid use/may only be advisory.... [17:19:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> ust wondered as I remember they was told not to make any more pointless RFCs [17:19:41] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Yeah... there's a nugget of a good idea in there, just strangely executed and probably doesn't require an RfC [17:20:16] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Oh, since we're here, we're you able to re-attempt voting? Still getting errors? [17:20:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> ust wondered if there is something that the Meta Admins wish to do/say [17:21:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls, replying to notaracham> [1/2] "Sorry, you are not in the predetermined list of users authorised to vote in this election. [17:21:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls, replying to notaracham> [2/2] If you receive this error, and you believe you should be allowed to vote, please contact ts@wikitide.org for quick resolution." [17:22:19] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Hrm. Very, very strange. I know Harej is pretty occupied today, but with any luck they'll be free to take a deeper look and get you sorted out later today. [17:22:43] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Oh right the dev conference [17:35:28] <MirahezeRelay> <betaphi.> I'm still waiting for my wiki (wiki.myehs.eu) to be migrated. I have pinged but not heard back from Agent for 6 days now... Is there any estimate on how long it will take to get the wiki back up? [17:37:38] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to betaphi.> So to make a back up of the wiki? [17:38:01] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> If you want, I can make an back up for you if the wiki is small [17:38:03] <MirahezeRelay> <betaphi.> No, I'm trying to get the migration from WikiTide to Miraheze going... [17:38:10] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Oh [17:38:29] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Agent is really busy these days with the election so :/ [17:38:43] <MirahezeRelay> <betaphi.> But it seems the process is stuck for a week now... And I can't seem to get any info on when the wiki will be available again... [17:38:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I don't know who else can handle it, he was pinged numerous times [17:38:58] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> I use XML dumps for word counting purposes, so I amused to making XMLs for wikis by copy paste [17:39:32] <MirahezeRelay> <betaphi., replying to pixldev> Well... The election and all is nice, but when the service itself is interrupted, that is not so nice... [17:39:39] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [1/2] https://github.com/Eytirth/MediaWikiTools [17:39:40] <MirahezeRelay> <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [2/2] Could these be useful to anybody and therefore go on dev wiki? [17:40:56] <MirahezeRelay> <betaphi.> Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to shutdown WikiTide during these busy times after all... [17:41:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> honestly, yeah [17:41:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> thing go too fast [17:41:20] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1227164567008968785 [17:41:45] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> @agentisai anything about this? [19:08:43] <Mannys> Looking to add a reference tag *within the text* of the article. There's an iToons strip that has a ref tag, which links to text within the "The author writes" section (https://www.mezzacotta.net/itoons/?comic=293), and I'm trying to recreate that for my wiki. How can I do that? [19:11:58] <Mannys> Anyone there? [19:14:27] <MirahezeRelay> <tali64, replying to Mannys> `<ref>` is the syntax used for inline references [19:15:59] <Mannys> I got it, thank you [19:16:43] <Mannys> But how to I make it so that number bullet point doesn't show up next to it? [19:19:43] <Mannys> Anyone there? [19:21:12] <RhinosF1> Please be patient [19:29:31] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> 🤔 considering some of my organizational structure and wondering something. google isn’t being terribly helpful [19:30:02] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> is there a way, as a bureaucrat, to hide pages from public view? [19:30:48] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Technically per page access does exist but mediawiki is not designed for it [19:30:53] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> my wiki is being used to organize stuff for a rp im going to run for my friends and I’d like to designate some pages to make game master and behind the scenes notes, but I don’t want them to be discoverable because spoilers [19:31:17] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> You could make it private and add namespaces to the whitelist I think [19:31:19] <MirahezeRelay> <tali64, replying to nemesis.> You can set your wiki to private and whitelist pages you want publicly visible [19:31:23] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> I can always take notes offsite but I like the idea of having everything on my wiki [19:31:49] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> You can make a private wiki public? [19:32:05] <Mannys> Hello, I somehow disconnected. But I've reconnected, [19:32:29] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> That said, as long as the page is not linked on like the main page or similar, the chance that some player would stumble upon them would be extremely small [19:33:01] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> True, I just know like… “Recent Pages” is a thing and such [19:33:13] <MirahezeRelay> <tali64, replying to nemesis.> Yes, and vice versa [19:33:41] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> I am definitely going to see about disabling the outward links to pages like “recent pages” but tbh that is helpful! [19:34:33] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> or recent edits I guess. Brain fart [19:35:00] <MirahezeRelay> <tali64, replying to nemesis.> RecentChanges technically, but close enough [19:35:09] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> THATS the one [19:35:10] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> 😭 [19:35:19] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> yeah [19:36:06] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> I figure most people aren’t going to be enough of sleuths to go hunting for non obvious links (part of the reason im using a wiki to organize in the first place) but [19:36:27] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> I want to take away the most clear paths to the forbidden info lol [19:36:55] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> Oh yeah, is there a page which lets you view a list of all pages on the wiki? [19:37:07] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> Special:AllPages [19:37:11] <MirahezeRelay> <tali64, replying to nemesis.> `MediaWiki:Sidebar` is a good place to start [19:37:38] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis., replying to gummiel> Very nice. [19:38:08] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> With that private-but-with-specific-public-facing-pages thing, can you make special pages private too? [19:38:12] <Mannys> Good afternoon. I was looking for how to do inline references. I learned how to do them successfully, but I want to make it so that it appears without the number bullet point next to it. Is that possible? [19:38:25] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> I guess I could always play with it but also I don’t want to break anything [19:39:36] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> I mean quite a few special pages are only visible to admins or crats (unsure which exactly tbh), so technically it should I geuss, no idea how to go about doing it to normally all user visible ones though [19:39:51] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> Ahhh, OK. That’s useful info [19:40:21] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> I guess I’ll first test anything for visibility from an anonymous browser before I go messing around then [19:40:46] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> and I would be surprised if there isn't further special pages only visible to stewards 😛 [19:41:19] <MirahezeRelay> <nemesis.> :iiam: [19:42:03] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> and yeah incognito mode (or similar in other browsers), are great for checking how things looked while logged out, without actually logging out in the main instance [19:48:40] <Mannys> Actually, I have a new question: Where can I find my CSS for my page? [19:49:46] <MirahezeRelay> <tali64, replying to Mannys> `MediaWiki:Common.css` or `MediaWiki:[skin name].css` [19:51:34] <Mannys> Thank you [20:16:35] <MirahezeRelay> <verityoffaith> "ERR_TIMED_OUT. It can't connect with the website" what does it mean when a wiki displays this on a failure to load [20:18:27] <MirahezeRelay> <djual_fallen> how to do a local elections [20:18:38] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> [[Local elections]] [20:18:38] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Local_elections [20:18:39] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Local_elections> [21:09:08] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> would it be possible to onboard someone who can assist with the migrations process that is entirely funneled through agent at this time? [21:09:31] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> yeeeah [21:09:42] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> The main issue with the WikiTide migrations is that they can only be done by people who were sysadmins at WikiTide [21:09:57] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> for example, me and OA do not have the required access for these [21:10:39] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> pretty much only Agent, Reception and CosmicAlpha can handle them, all of which are either busy or have other work to do [21:11:13] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332, replying to bluemoon0332> Macfan also cannot do them, I _think_ [21:12:45] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> Well, WikiTide legacy edition will sunset today. The last batch of migrations will be done today and after that, all wikis will be dumped and made available for post-shutdown migrations on mwtask* + backed up to archive.org [21:13:06] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> good to know [21:13:29] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> so moot point [21:13:33] <MirahezeRelay> <bluemoon0332> where are you storing the dumps in mwtask btw? [21:14:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> have you check on that users who pinged you yesterday? [21:20:04] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> how do i rest wiki cache [21:20:13] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> (purge wiki cache) [21:20:20] <RhinosF1> Which cache [21:20:34] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to RhinosF1> the wiki [21:20:45] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> like the intire thing [21:21:38] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> You want to reset your entire wiki? [21:21:45] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Cause that's not a cache [21:30:42] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to rhinosf1> idk [21:30:53] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> brandon told me to like rest cache for wiki [21:31:39] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> I literally said no such thing [21:31:58] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> I said you can try and purge the cache of a page because you said that was your issue. [21:33:37] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Your wiki cache can be reset but it is probably not what you are thinking of. [21:34:34] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to brandon.wm> i said page number wasnt updating [21:34:57] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to originalauthority> yeah i guess [21:34:58] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> how? [21:35:19] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> A member of SRE or Steward can do it. [21:35:29] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> But its probably not the cause of your issue. [21:35:47] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to idrinklisterine> This is now in OA’s hands, who is much more capable and knowledgeable than I [21:36:12] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to brandon.wm> okay [21:36:19] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to originalauthority> page number isnt updating [21:36:34] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Have you tried changing wgArticleCountMethod? In managewiki from link to any? [21:36:44] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> also [21:37:13] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> [1/3] also active users thing isnt updating [21:37:14] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229546097157079151/image.png?ex=66301309&is=661d9e09&hm=02c82ee108323a89e91e16d0add58e9eb20a5a2c6fbd5c6dbbea052df9f216fd& [21:37:14] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229546097463267348/image.png?ex=66301309&is=661d9e09&hm=3e8ab62922142db6aa778bc865ab555ad7e62afebdb1ec13743659e911c97119& [21:37:25] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> (7 is acual active users) [21:38:25] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Probably because of miser mode. [21:38:26] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to originalauthority> i have now thanks, [21:39:08] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to originalauthority> whats that? [21:39:12] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> We can run a script to update that but I think we already run onr weekly to do that. [21:39:40] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine, replying to originalauthority> ? [21:39:53] <MirahezeRelay> <idrinklisterine> can you turn off miser mode in managewiki? [21:39:56] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> No. [21:40:00] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [1/2] For a list of all the fun jobs and when they run: [21:40:00] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [2/2] https://github.com/WikiForge/puppet/blob/master/modules/mediawiki/manifests/jobqueue/runner.pp [21:40:28] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Statistics are updated on the 1st and 15th, it looks like. [21:40:42] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Weird choice of repo to link [21:40:51] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to originalauthority> Surprised it’s not delayed because of all the jobrunner issues but maybe I’m thinking about it wrong [21:40:53] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Oh, right, that's the one I had bookmarked. [21:41:14] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> But yeah NotAracham is right, we can update it but it shouldve updated today [21:41:33] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> And it will just fall behind again until its ran again [21:43:17] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Updated link with correct repo. 😄 [21:44:20] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> [1/4] language urls can be kinda useful in miraheze [21:44:20] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> [2/4] could also be possible to redirect to other wikis [21:44:20] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> [3/4] like for example: [21:44:21] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> [4/4] en.snowballaspedia.miraheze.org redirects to theinsanitypedia.miraheze.org [21:44:49] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> That really shouldn't be allowed. [21:45:26] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Are they both the same wiki? Or different wikis? [21:45:38] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> Yeah I don’t like that [21:45:41] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Thats like going to fr.facebook.com and ending up on twitter. [21:45:43] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Interlanguage links support that, to my understanding... [21:46:20] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> I’d consider preventing it then, that’s not great [21:46:23] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Yes--I'll rephrase. It's entirely possible, but shouldn't be done. [21:46:31] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> It's very misleading. [21:46:38] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob, replying to originalauthority> theinsanitypedia.miraheze.org is the english snowballaspedia which is spanish [21:46:53] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Yep, then that's an appropriate if counterintuitive use case. [21:47:15] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Hmmm maybe thats bordering on acceptable but I wouldn't have done it personally. [21:48:00] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> You're probably losing out on some SEO that way aswell. [21:53:03] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to agentisai> Please PIN! for easy reference if we get questions from such users having problems and afraid everything is lost [21:56:20] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [1/4] @emicraftnoob I do ask you to revert your move. [21:56:20] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [2/4] @pppery__99225 is admin on dev. and was right to rename Template:Template to Template:Inciclopedia ambox as Template:Template is too generic and doesn't let others know what it is. [21:56:20] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [3/4] You reverting it back to Template:Template is counter productive. [21:56:21] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [4/4] So please revert your actions [21:57:16] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob, replying to rodejong> calling it Simple Ambox [21:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> That's fine by me [21:58:08] <MirahezeRelay> <elliethepwincess> i'd recommend using edit summaries/move reasons they way they are intended instead of putting "oh noes" [22:00:59] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Nah i love puting "whoopsie" in edit summaries [22:01:43] <MirahezeRelay> <cibryll> I love being silly with my edit summaries some of the time-- [22:01:55] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> same [22:02:34] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> An occasional oops slips through with me also [22:02:42] <MirahezeRelay> <pppery__99225> And I make plenty of mistakes [22:03:01] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Don't we all?? 🙂 [22:03:17] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> We're all human aren't we? [22:03:56] <MirahezeRelay> <elliethepwincess> nah i'm not [22:05:00] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> dang [22:05:57] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to cibryll> I tend to be both silly and descriptive at the same time with mine 😉 [22:05:57] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> furry moment [22:06:15] <MirahezeRelay> <clockworky> was there any community discussion about [[Requests for Comment/Meta extended confirmed users]] because this seems pretty controversial [22:06:15] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Meta_extended_confirmed_users [22:06:16] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Meta_extended_confirmed_users> [22:06:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I tend to be professional with them when patrolling for formatting, blank with talk page ones and unhinged with stuff on my wiki doing css and templates [22:07:12] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai, replying to clockworky> nope [22:07:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to clockworky> Was something on CN I think [22:07:24] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> But not near enough for a draft [22:07:28] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> We already have an `autopatrolled` protection level which I think is good enough [22:07:28] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Silicona moment [22:07:40] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> so much for AP [22:07:42] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> If we trust you with autopatrolled, we trust you to not be a spammer [22:07:57] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> We could use it more though [22:09:13] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob, replying to elliethepwincess> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229554149142696016/latest.png?ex=66301a89&is=661da589&hm=055b4e824e12a3bfd4dc59f4c35c3043ea111a323c6db5d2dc7a2bbaf865e124& [22:09:32] <MirahezeRelay> <clockworky> roblox is down again 😭🙏 [22:10:25] <MirahezeRelay> <clockworky> this outage must be serious if it reverted back to 2007 design [22:11:33] <MirahezeRelay> <c.syde65> https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12047 [22:12:59] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to c.syde65> I think that's kept for legacy reasons beyond cahce [22:13:13] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I'd just pick a different group name [22:13:30] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to emicraftnoob> Please stop interupting with large gifs!! [22:13:40] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> Do that in OffTopic [22:14:13] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob, replying to rodejong> deleted 👍 and is not a gif [22:15:14] <MirahezeRelay> <c.syde65, replying to pixldev> That's the problem. I do not wish to pick a different group name. [22:19:38] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> @suzuneu is the max number of abbreviations in the mark admins gadget 4? [22:19:58] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> and if possible, WC should be superseded by S when possible. both should still be attached but WC is implicit with S [22:21:01] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to brandon.wm> I use Steward as an abbreviation for steward, so I don't think that's true [22:22:12] <MirahezeRelay> <c.syde65, replying to c.syde65> When they removed the Interwiki Administrator usergroup from existence, what they didn't do was remove it from the blacklisted usergroups. Which makes no sense because it doesn't contain any blacklisted permissions anymore. [22:22:37] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai, replying to suzuneu> stew 🍲 [22:22:56] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to agentisai> s t e w [22:22:56] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob, replying to agentisai> sw [22:23:25] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to suzuneu> is it not S? [22:23:36] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu> Yea in my personal settings [22:24:19] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229557948972273695/Screenshot_20240416-072410.png?ex=66301e13&is=661da913&hm=d5d53ff8fe784eca4152b5497481b52f32b46141da5e59544afeb28d4b50fb76& [22:26:56] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to suzuneu> @brandon.wm reping [22:29:19] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm, replying to suzuneu> sorry, missed this [22:29:22] <MirahezeRelay> <brandon.wm> would be great if you could [22:29:30] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu> Ok [22:32:50] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr, replying to clockworky> yes but it did not support the creation of that rfc, someone else said something and I explicitly said it was not necessary [22:33:33] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Community_portal#Extended_confirmed_user_right_and_extended_confirmed_protection_level_on_Meta [22:50:20] <MirahezeRelay> <zeusdeegoose, replying to clockworky> havent put pen to paper et but i dont think ec is needed on meta [23:14:57] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> [1/2] Ejército liberación Risapedia came back as Chilaman [23:14:58] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> [2/2] look #cvt [23:16:32] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> urgent! [23:23:04] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to emicraftnoob> If it’s urgent, ping CVT [23:23:32] <MirahezeRelay> <emicraftnoob> pinged 👍