[00:05:56] Congrats Pixel!! [00:47:00] [1/3] in any case, we're now past time, so it's officially official. [00:47:01] [2/3] which is almost officialer than official. [00:47:01] [3/3] so there. [00:47:32] @globe, i like your new pfp [00:47:55] GG, congrats [00:48:28] maybe one day ill get that notification in my echo inbox once more, if i ever actually end up running for wiki creator again (probably wont unless things are dire) [00:51:09] yay now accept any wiki with a request note of 2 paragraph [00:51:29] Congrats! [00:52:43] [1/2] i honestly did not know its been 2 years since my very temporary wiki creatorship [00:52:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229957681108877372/image.png?ex=6631925a&is=661f1d5a&hm=b8e5dd54a2a79443706d20c54af9ece627af126570adeefbe242f9c9bd102f33& [00:53:22] oh wow, I forgot about the "Wiki creator helpful tips" welcome message Stewards used to send [00:53:55] accept any wiki request with a request note of 2 characters [00:55:45] [1/2] ||sorry for spanish|| [00:55:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229958444052906035/Captura_de_Pantalla_2024-04-16_a_las_6.55.23_p.m..png?ex=66319310&is=661f1e10&hm=6b0836613cb1092320d747f548f669d8e73333456f0cfd87c946ff53749cd9d3& [00:56:05] Accepted yay :D [00:56:08] samw here [00:56:23] proposal to change the accepted name to "Accepted yay :D" [00:56:24] we still have the template for patrollers :p [00:56:59] globe has a new pfp? [00:57:03] its pretty good [00:57:12] not the solid black anymore 👍 [00:57:39] [1/2] looks like the Meta logo thing [00:57:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229958924170694778/Z.png?ex=66319383&is=661f1e83&hm=83d165451e8cea464e6e3f8a6a7e7ab8618d00ffd92ce8696a3ff0956dded598& [00:57:55] Those might be good to include on the [wiki creator's guide](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Wiki_creators%27_guide) [00:58:44] im gonna spend a while reading wc wiki probably [00:58:54] and making my own notes page ig [01:00:08] stupid question: is becoming wiki creator very very easy, the eligibility thing in meta looks easy [01:00:17] globe is zuckerbergs alter ego [01:01:23] Being a wiki creator requires good judgement and firm knowledge of the [[Content Policy]]; if you don't have both, you may have a hard time becoming one, and the role can always be revoked if you cause issues [01:01:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [01:01:24]

[01:03:58] Ditto what Tali said. It seems easy at first glance, but it is actually a bit challenging if you take it seriously. Wiki requests need to have a solid purpose, good scope, and make sense. [01:04:18] Some requests are short and easy. Others can be really long, convoluted, and still not clear. [01:05:55] eligibility is one thing, scrutiny is another [01:06:24] i had requested wiki creator a handful of times, it took a while to actually become one [01:06:40] But if you're up for it, take a look at the guide listed above, and the previous RfPs. Then put your hat in the ring (to get the WC hat, lol), if you're up for it. We can always use more good volunteers. (Maybe check #volunteering and get active there to see how it feels.) [01:07:31] really what most people look for is presence on meta helping people and being active [01:07:33] [1/3] is ok to accept your own wiki being a wiki creator [01:07:34] [2/3] example [01:07:34] [3/3] [[Special:RequestWikiQueue/10745]] [01:07:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/10745 [01:07:35]

[01:07:51] from what i know, yes but its frowned upon [01:08:06] generally you should let another wiki creator do that for you [01:08:06] that would be frowned upon. you can request a wiki but another WC should review it for acceptance. [01:08:49] if getting a wiki accepted is your goal, then requesting WC is not right for you at this time. [01:10:29] stewards have virtually no written down requirements to put themselves out there, but you can imagine that is non trivial [01:10:41] the requirements across all roles is deceiving tbh [01:16:05] late but congrats to @pixldev ! [01:19:02] [1/2] how would i make non-gallery images have a transparent background and caption transparent? i tried looking through the inspect element but the css only gave me errors [01:19:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1229964305059938437/image.png?ex=66319885&is=661f2385&hm=8bbde797d60aea373c35fcd64da165907b2fb3dc233ef69bad70d4b4012b120c& [01:19:47] @suzuneu how has it gone with WakiBot? [01:22:34] I haven't had time to say so but thank you @suzuneu for RfXHelper! [01:22:43] it's what we've always dreamed of for the SR [02:30:58] I have run it for 3 days and there seems to be no malfunction [02:31:15] Please update on-wiki with your findings and I believe bot is appropriate to be granted [02:33:23] :done: [02:36:22] Donezo [02:36:43] hrm [02:36:58] @Stewards please grant Waki285-Bot the bot flag [02:37:08] I was under the impression Meta sysops could grant but it appears not [02:37:35] I've closed but someone will need to add [03:26:10] That example provided would 100% not pass cursory examination today. 2020 was a v different era [03:27:04] I forgotted about that but well, thanks lol [04:40:34] Trying to improve my wiki search rankings and reading the guide on setting it up on google, the guide mentioned I can expand the HTML tag but how do I do that [04:42:21] [1/2] Can't really see an option here [04:42:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230015469990445186/21bf319a3ebce21f58dbc411a8b03cf0.png?ex=6631c82c&is=661f532c&hm=895c813a017e2391b15a3d641bebc1b2ffd74217576ec01d69fba8f8650588ce& [04:49:55] Just add to WikiSeo google search console thing that random gibberish and is done [04:50:01] No HTML tag [05:04:17] [1/2] you need to insert the key into wikiseo setting on wiki [05:04:17] [2/2] [05:05:49] [1/3] Like this right? I tried and I got an error message [05:05:50] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230021378854355014/8fb56a37c4b999928b2d5b8e3fca3d2f.png?ex=6631cdad&is=661f58ad&hm=ff97edba67b98c4ea60817f05d54ded848b853ddfa0d87a86bd2e480cace3679& [05:05:50] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230021379139571722/800bc37587fcfe7a8b7378ae0341e2e7.png?ex=6631cdad&is=661f58ad&hm=68726184a78a3d34221fe7336c87a6c2e4ad7dd9848758a6c3cea2196648b0cb& [05:08:21] it take some time [05:08:25] try in 15 min [05:08:53] [1/2] @suzuneu not sure why all permissions aren't loading for some users? [05:08:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230022148513464320/Screenshot_2024-04-16_at_10.08.34_PM.png?ex=6631ce64&is=661f5964&hm=f610b256a55e368eb27044aaa869028fda016f7d7ab877791d6da2aeb3ca8941& [05:08:58] you can check html code of wiki and see the meta tag updated w/ key [05:09:01] SRE and CNM should also be on the list [05:09:39] Gotcha I'll try again later [05:12:22] I think it is a bug about SRE, but CNM is working right (No one in [[Special:ListUsers/central_notice_manager]]) [05:12:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers/central_notice_manager [05:12:23]

[05:15:01] ah yes it appears the role was removed [05:15:02] SRE though [06:09:45] [1/3] I realized that Agent isn't belong SRE global group [06:09:45] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230037463779770379/Screenshot_2024-04-17-15-08-56-790_com.android.chrome.jpg?ex=6631dca8&is=661f67a8&hm=e86eba75686b2c99e4e735c148f3cb1727d518eda6e1348e4aba65a44c4e18cd& [06:09:45] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230037464064725022/Screenshot_2024-04-17-15-08-38-650_com.android.chrome.jpg?ex=6631dca8&is=661f67a8&hm=1ed9b9ac73472ad720666da7ceb813171b7c8456f08708335aace70ec617fc22& [06:57:26] Well, WikiTide's officially gone [07:08:39] WikiTide has officially shut down I’m so glad I migrated all of my Wikis hard work back to Miraheze 🥳🎉 [07:08:54] I am so creative [07:09:06] 🫡 [07:45:51] me who decided to stick w/ miraheze back in doom days: :pupCoffeeMH: [07:52:46] same [08:25:36] is there any specific reason miraheze/mediawiki still parses for ecmascript 5 because it is making me want to rip my hair out [08:49:22] They did that only to support IE 11 [08:49:29] 😭 [08:49:42] ecmascript 5 wouldnt let me use a for loop correctly so thats... fun [08:51:59] But they seem to be working on supporting ES6. Since MW 1.41, you can use it in ResourceLoader [09:00:42] oh thank goodness, thats nice atleast [11:49:55] Is there really some people that use it ? [11:52:18] there are people who use windows 7 or even xp [11:52:36] presumably ie mixes in with that somewhere [11:52:59] Yeah but when i do that i use firefox [11:55:49] bc a lot of website doesn't support IE this old anymore [12:01:53] I have to use IE at work for ome (1) very specific system w/ web interface, but otherwise I don't use it for web surfing, I have FF for that lol [12:03:02] anyone 'wise' as wise can be for such an old os tends to use firefox of some sort but I can't rule out the very odd person who uses it for non corporate/shitty dev reasons (which is the main reason I know for it still being used) [12:36:41] I think one time when I was SRE I even seen older OS than that (but I could be mistaken or be thinking of other project I was apart of) [12:37:13] depending how long ago that was... probably [12:37:24] Well its been several years since I was sre [12:43:49] I loved my Windows 2000 though. [12:44:13] I think 2000 can still be beaten into shape with a lot of hacks, and I mean more hacks than it would take to just fully utilize arch linux to do whatever you were gonna do with it [12:44:34] Definitely [12:44:35] likewise 9x but that sort of thing is the domain of retro builds [12:45:10] vista has a weak footstool to stand on with enough tweaking, more so than xp at least given it's a vaguely modern base by comparison [12:45:29] Vista Cough [12:45:56] I actually had a good run with that one for a few years long after its release [12:46:05] last bit being the key [12:46:06] I hated it [12:46:09] there are still some countries with a high usage of IE [12:46:10] Just like ME [12:46:32] ME suffered a botched launch but could prove serviceable with the right work done, although you may as well have gone with 2k [12:47:08] I choose to jump from Windows Workgroups 3.1 to Windows 2000 to XP to Windows 10 [12:47:12] vista worked for me when I had all the updates that actually made it compatible with stuff and between that/aesthetics I welcomed it over XP... but this was like, 2015 [12:47:16] I avoided all the others [12:47:24] so you can see I have a habit of being very late to the upgrade party [12:47:33] maybe not your late though lol [12:47:36] Yeah so were I [12:47:36] not quite xp to 10 [12:48:28] I've battered my 10 into shape but dropping 7 was reluctant, 10 was really just a test system I kinda went with eventually, but by that time I'd also splintered off to have most of my other stuff based on linux [12:48:34] I have always been quite conservative. Watching the cat out of the tree, until the first issues were addressed [12:48:52] I didn't even touch 10 until like, 20/21 [12:49:31] Yeah me too, when I was forced by Windows To update for free [12:49:35] I have touched 11 but it's in quarantine at the moment [12:49:55] yeah I killed whatever microsoft was doing to force those upgrades but many were not so lucky [12:50:05] I hated vista, vista should of never existed [12:50:17] ← [12:50:20] ↑ [12:50:21] 7 is vista with a pr coat of paint [12:50:32] 7 was alot more stable [12:50:47] Never used 7, nor 8 [12:50:50] 7 is an upgrade of vista that could have been built right into vista but the name was so damaged they just spun it off [12:51:00] The amount of times I BSOD’d with Vista compared to 7 was insane [12:51:03] vista took the brunt that made 7 a beloved classic [12:51:10] bsods were entirely a matter of manufacturer compatibility [12:51:20] it just wasn't ready for the wide deployment it got [12:51:31] We should really take this to #offtopic now [12:51:36] that is why it did so well with me; I adapted it far later in its more final updates [12:51:44] and yeah, long been an ot talk tbh [14:03:42] 🤨 [14:03:59] @reception123 any chance you know what's up here [14:04:28] It's not like Agent would even notice that he isn't in the global group [14:04:35] [[Special:GlobalUsers/sre]] [14:04:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:GlobalUsers/sre [14:04:36]

[14:04:37] he has global Steward, which has basically the same rights [14:04:43] Agent isn't listed here, odd [14:06:00] can someone add it :p [14:13:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?logid=1106841 done [14:47:47] that's true [14:49:55] heh [15:08:22] Hello [16:08:49] Gra who ping [16:14:12] The elusive ping monster has struck again [16:14:19] Grrrr [16:14:34] Do we have the 1984 logs where deleted messages are logged [16:14:48] Yeah, I'd remind people that intentional ghost pings are against the rules [16:15:02] Not anymore; the bot who logged them broke in March [16:16:21] [1/2] Reception123, it is possible to be Romanian from your user page [16:16:21] [2/2] If so, joy! You have another Romanian here [16:16:29] Just use MessageLogger in BetterDiscord [16:17:00] Romanian [16:17:07] MessageLogger [16:17:14] With Acheron free [16:17:19] No problem [16:18:02] Maaaaybe don’t promote and solicit things that was explicitly against discord ToS. Idk I’m not a discord mod but [16:18:18] Dyno can do it [16:19:20] There are no known cases of someone being banned for using a client modifier; while they're technically against Discord's TOS, Discord doesn't care enough to enforce that [16:19:21] DynoROARRRR [16:19:58] I don't think it's in the TOS anymore afaik and it's not a report category in an app to report modded clients and nobody has been banned for it [16:20:54] Dynoroar eats a moment that probably replaced George's dinosaur in Peppa Pig when the dinosaur broke down and broke its leg When I saw that there was a bot with this name I thought of this episode [16:24:10] Please stop. [16:24:22] Please go to #offtopic to share random sentences [16:24:55] (Or just don't post random sentences please because they are offering nothing constructive to any conversation not even in offtopic) [16:24:58] Ok, sorry [16:25:29] I always forget [16:28:40] What news is there on Miraheze? [16:29:58] depends, what are you curious about [16:30:27] I'd link the community news page but it's not particularly up to date with insights [16:31:44] The debate over renaming is definitely something to write about once the discussion's over [16:33:45] I haven't seen much happen but some Phorge issues got triaged, someone on the character reception wikis became admin, oh yeah there's the rebranding debate, some vandals got locked, the bad faith blanking filter on the character reception wikis is very broken, etc. [16:33:56] can't think of anything particularly interesting [16:34:05] @tali64 did you see my DM? [16:40:38] I did; the filter doesn't appear to be broken [16:40:49] Alright [16:41:04] Perhaps look into making it not block admins though [16:41:25] Also category removal has triggered it too frequently [17:17:24]