[00:15:54] 💤 + 🛏️ = 🛌🏻 [01:18:51] just gonna request another wiki again [01:18:53] am i insane [01:19:22] that depends [01:19:29] what is the reason for request [01:19:55] [1/2] idfk [01:19:55] [2/2] ill probably just replace one of my 2 wikis, that being arosiki [01:19:56] i mean [01:20:02] its inactive [01:20:05] like really inactive [01:20:08] so you mean drop one you lost interest in, fill with another? [01:20:09] might aswell merge with that one [01:20:15] yup [01:20:32] as long as what you want to fill in with is something you can actually commit to, not really insane [01:21:08] I have toyed with the idea of making a wiki for a really old game I'm into, and it would not take long to write virtually everything there is to know about it since it was a one-off, shortish game that has never been picked up since [01:21:33] yumi nikki? [01:22:16] you probably couldn't guess it [01:22:24] I doubt anyone here would have heard of it [01:46:47] im curious [02:27:49] Did the option for bureaucrats to delete user groups get removed? I'm trying to do some spring cleaning on one of my wikis, but I can't find the option to delete a user group; then again, I may just be looking in the wrong place [02:28:10] Hm. Let me check on my wiki. [02:28:34] I still see it [02:28:37] Same. [02:28:52] You technically shouldn't be able to delete the group but the check which stops you is broken [02:29:13] I think they meant for crats to delete a group [02:29:19] Not to delete the crat group [02:29:19] yeah, I misread [02:30:07] [1/2] Not seeing any sort of "Delete" option here [02:30:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230344580843573259/image.png?ex=6632faae&is=662085ae&hm=5292100eda41df7c438007ab40bf783540161d1ce7d4e95905e6d9e3e3ce371b& [02:30:39] Does the group exist? [02:30:50] It does [02:31:05] Do you know where that broken check is? I'm compiling a small list of things I'd like to maybe patch if I ever get a MW/CW instance locally. May as well add that to the mental list if I get the time. [02:31:42] Also, is there a Phorge task open for that? [02:32:02] no, just a casual observation I made a few years ago [02:32:30] Dang been a hot minute. [02:33:17] I'll have to look in the code tomorrow since this laptop reaaaallly doesn't agree with GitHub and the repo isn't mirrored on Diffusion [02:34:14] for me it did [02:34:21] no groups that i create are able to be deleted [02:35:12] That's.. odd [02:37:34] @agentisai do you want me to make a low priority task about the crat deletion issue? [02:40:04] [1/3] Thank you everyone that helping me get the image issue fixed on my wiki... [02:40:04] [2/3] I created a ticket and Universal_Omega fixed it today [02:40:04] [3/3] ❤️ 🔥 :EpicFaceMH: [02:40:39] Common UO W [02:40:44] :thumbsup: [03:22:13] reception wiki [03:22:32] Indeed [03:23:07] I hate the customization, too much red! [03:36:48] Nearly every reception wiki has major issues with CSS [03:37:25] If "too much red" is the only problem you can find with a reception wiki's CSS then the wiki could be considered one of the best designed compared to the others [03:38:31] I've been doing a lot of editing on https://loathsomecharacters.miraheze.org and its sister wiki, nearly every page has major legibility and contrast issues and the only active administrators are too tech illiterate to fix it. I explained the issues to the admins and the only one who knows how to fix it is Tali64 and he's not that active on there [03:39:28] I see why we decided to ban new Reception Wikis [03:40:03] It's more about conduct issues and a lack of any competent moderation than their inability to make the wikis usable [03:40:30] There's been some discussion in the Netpedia server about how difficult it is to find anyone willing to administrate the reception wikis that's actually competent for the role [03:40:59] I started fixing typos and broken templates and stuff on the RWs and ever since then I get nonstop messages from various people on the reception wikis asking me stupid questions [04:13:22] dark mode is even worse [04:19:58] need to have Special:ThemeDesigner lol [04:21:15] also that stupid tab design in vector [04:21:21] [1/2] no [04:21:21] [2/2] dont put css at all [04:21:29] best solution [04:21:34] for me is pretty overwhelming [04:21:42] too much css [04:23:15] the background is the color of the liquid that is coming from my eyes because of that horrendous css lol [04:23:35] actually my wiki has 98 lines of css but its literally just citizen with a different font and a dice button on the sidebar [04:24:42] [1/2] why would not resist to that plain vector beauty [04:24:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230373415253180426/1200px-Dantman-Skin-vector.png?ex=66331589&is=6620a089&hm=0688daa582a49e4c2f81c50ba09d1208db16c1b19673a6fde733d8f0ad3c321d& [04:25:02] oh early vector [04:29:08] I personally found the plain vector to be very ugly [04:33:54] nah [04:34:25] personally, I think that [04:34:30] https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520 [04:34:45] lmao [04:57:49] Hello [04:57:50] again [05:21:16] huh [06:02:41] Legacy vector doesn't look great by modern standards [06:02:46] It's legacy [06:03:01] But Vector-2022 did a really bad job at making it look better [06:08:46] [[mw:Skin:Citizen]] is good i think [06:08:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Citizen [06:08:47]

[06:09:46] Yeah true [06:09:57] Agreed [07:22:27] [1/2] I wanna get these two out and place differently as the main page is inside. [07:22:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230418148960894976/Screenshot_2024-04-18-13-06-39-913_com.miui.videoplayer.jpg?ex=66333f32&is=6620ca32&hm=9b91e17cf966168468a65816d53ac08ccecefa1add4f3b264d743d3e27575106& [07:22:31] WikiForge? That paid service coming in there?😂 [08:05:39] [1/2] It's better to rename your wiki, and change the style to your new subject. [08:05:40] [2/2] In stead of opening a new one and closing another. [08:43:59] Personally I somewhat disagree lol, I am probably in the minority saying this but I actually quite like vector-2022, it's one of my favorite skins… [08:49:00] Same here. It's clean. [08:49:06] No distractions [09:03:05] it's not terrible but there are some things i would personally change [09:03:28] Like? [09:14:42] there actually isn't really anything now that i look at it again heh [09:21:42] I'm yet to see it heavily modified like older skins end up [09:22:47] I just don't like plain ol' white thing, but old Vector is more tolerable in that regard cus I guess I got used to it from Wikipedia [09:23:23] new Vector low-key has stange vibe [10:31:39] I'd rather plan vector to reception wiki vector at this point tbh [11:52:51] How can I check the status of my wiki that’s pending creation? [11:58:23] you would've received an ID when you first requested but otherwise you can go to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue and input your name into the requestor field [12:00:55] Thank you [12:00:56] assuming the queue isn't too heavily clogged ctrl +f may get you to the entry quick [12:01:15] unfortunately no go for me chomping at queue until later [12:24:58] [1/2] is a miraheze wiki owned by their community or these people? [12:24:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230494280317927464/image.png?ex=66338619&is=66211119&hm=0bf664937bf554cc2aa7fcf00802e9066c63598df2641eee833fdf2d68329a24& [12:26:40] By the community; the administration does not own the wiki per the wiki governance policy [12:27:25] How long does it take to get a wiki request approved in general? [12:28:09] Usually less than a day, though in some cases requests may be missed for several days [12:29:50] What I saw on Reddit yeah, it's been 2 days (I'm not a hurry tho so that's no probs) so I was wondering a bit what was happening [12:30:09] don't forget to check if there's a question from reviewer [12:30:52] Hey. So, there are still some dead images, I see. [12:31:35] [1/3] Where so? [12:31:36] [2/3] Request comments I guess? Or did I miss it? [12:31:36] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230495946849390734/image.png?ex=663387a7&is=662112a7&hm=84f5e329eb52f58865993811ad392d6125243f2a49aecb92d3905b0b5df08b53& [12:31:47] request comments [12:32:00] Okay yeah, nothing in it so [12:32:16] migrated off wikitide? [12:32:36] at this point I think any images issues have to be reported in phorge [12:32:40] No, Miraheze [12:32:42] Btw, how to import my SQL database to Miraheze? I've been developing my wiki locally and would like to migrate it to Miraheze's servers, but I'm unsure about the process for importing the database (It's been a while I haven't made such a thing, prob 5 years or so lol) [12:33:53] Yea it looks like a goverment website lol [12:34:19] [1/2] iirc SQL db import isn't really possible, but SRE will tell fpr sure [12:34:19] [2/2] can you make xml dump of wiki tho? [12:34:36] [[Moving wiki to Miraheze]] [12:34:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_wiki_to_Miraheze [12:34:37]

[12:35:07] Surely doable yup! [12:35:24] If the XML can handle it then there's no probs at all I guess, ty [13:01:21] F [13:10:18] Depends on what wiki request it is [13:10:31] I could be inclined to check quickly [13:11:46] [1/2] It's about creating a wiki for an ecosystem game, wildlife and stuff (if you know the game rain world that's the closer one I know so far) [13:11:46] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/43397 [13:15:35] I am an absolute ignorant concerning games. Haven't played for 2 decades almost 😄 [13:16:19] They do use Miraheze for their wiki so I was hoping that you could have seen it ahah [13:23:05] [1/2] I have been a WikiCreator for only a few months. [13:23:05] [2/2] And have been on Miraheze only since November, So my knowledge of all the wiki's is very limited. Especially as gaming is not really in my interest corner anymore since the early 2000's 😄 [13:23:42] But please feel free to react on the questions I have for you. Try and sell it to me as a noob 😉 [13:37:15] Have fun 😉 [13:38:57] Rain World is the most prominent Miraheze wiki, and is official on top of that [13:39:34] brought some positive rep to Miraheze [13:39:48] THANK YOU! ♥️ [13:45:33] [1/3] Good to hear. But does it hurt if I said that I never heard of it before? 😄 [13:45:33] [2/3] Because I never heard of it. [13:45:33] [3/3] I've heard about the Steam Platform and Mindcraft and Roblox, due to my son playing those, but other than that 🤷🏻‍♂️ ❌ [13:46:09] I was talking about wiki xd [13:46:23] tbh I haven't heard of this game too until I joined Miraheze [13:46:39] looks interesting, maybe will try one day [13:46:46] XD [13:47:27] XDinoroarrr [14:04:06] Hello! I'm wondering what's happening with my wiki? https://ocess.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page [14:04:46] It wasn't down a month or two ago [14:05:22] Legacy WikiTide was shutdown. However, we can still migrate your wiki if you send in a request, be sure to say weather you want to keep the wikitide url. [14:05:43] You should have received a few emails regarding this [14:06:03] Sure I'd like to migrate! Weirdly, I have not, and I seem to have lost my Miraheze credentials [14:06:24] Can you check if "Cocobb8" is an existing account on either Miraheze or legacy wikitide? [14:07:19] On Miraheze, no account by that name exists. [14:07:47] Please email the request to sre@miraheze.org, and we will get started when we can [14:07:48] Hmm, when I set up the wiki on Wikitide I believe I had used that username [14:08:05] Accounts database is totaly seperate between farms [14:08:36] What would the best course of action be to migrate ocess.wikitide.org to ocess.miraheze.org? [14:09:53] As I said, email sre@miraheze.org, say you want to migrate your wikitide wiki, and tell us if you want to keep the old wikitide.org url [14:10:35] Ok. Will the fact that my account on wikitide/miraheze is non-existent be an issue, knowing that I'm an admin on the wiki to be migrated? [14:10:57] You should create an account on Miraheze. [14:11:17] Will do! Thanks for your help MacFan4000, really appreciated [16:14:13] [1/3] Hey, soz if it's a dumb question well I simply want to be sure I got it right [16:14:13] [2/3] So I'd like to point out to this domain, I've read the domain article one however I'm not sure I got it right but the target database is the one I currently used on my main domain correct? So like it was "lp_wiki" if so I can use a Remote MySQL access for it [16:14:14] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1230551974223548497/image.png?ex=6633bbd5&is=662146d5&hm=f76958cfd7b291c2cd0cef9a89e61513d4842d8380ca1b6dda46d84fb9840a0b& [16:14:54] Go to [[Special:ManageWiki/core]] on your wiki [16:14:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/core [16:14:55]

[16:15:03] you'll find your database name there [16:15:42] Oh thanks I didn't see it mb 🤦 [16:17:36] Any way to custom the database name? As it's grayed out [16:18:09] you can't, the database name is an internal identifier for your wiki and changing the name there would require moving the database [16:30:56] ok i have no clue if this is just a problem for me or not (and i don't think this needs a support thread?) but is the logo in the top left just like, missing for anyone else?? https://termsofservice.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page [16:31:47] WikiTide URLs have had issues with images lately; it's likely your issue is related to that [16:31:55] ah, alright [16:32:42] i felt like i was going insane because on the actual File: page for the logo it shows up, but only in the place where it displays the file, not where the logo actually is [16:37:02] That was fixed actually [16:37:13] Make sure the logo URL is correct [16:37:25] it is [16:38:13] set to static.miraheze.org? [16:38:52] yeah [16:38:58] it's starting to reappear on pages now though [16:39:03] so it's fine [16:44:25] yeah I am guessing some server cache "issues", looking a bit around poking the inspector, the the pages where it works the logo are coming from a static.miraheze link, where the ones not showing, it is trying to get it from static.wikitide [18:20:37] I think I fixed this yesterday [19:16:37] Going to read translate docs and request translator on meta [19:18:21] What’s the requirements for enabling elastic search again? [19:18:30] being kool [19:18:33] I'm not even sure at this point [19:18:42] basically that or being on our nice side ^ [19:19:02] was in #announcements iirc [19:19:18] [1/2] 1. knowing what you are doing or wanting to do so [19:19:18] [2/2] 2. not being hated by the cabalstewards [19:19:31] cabalsre [19:19:35] ftfy [19:20:02] Wait meta has two cabals [19:20:18] there's also the sysops cabal [19:20:18] there is no cabal [19:20:20] so three [19:20:28] that doesn't really exist tbh [19:20:48] Members of the cabal deny the cabal exists thus proving the cabal exists. [19:21:03] officially, no cabal has existed since March 2023 [19:21:11] technically \:P [19:23:42] That's a rabbithole I am going to leave for a prevate venue. [19:24:02] well, it was a factor that began the shutdown scare [19:24:15] you can dig through the Community noticeboard for more info [19:24:20] here we go again [19:24:37] not really, the two things mentioned on the CN thread are gone \:P [19:24:56] Look, Miraheze still exists, things have happened and the end user notcied nothing - all sunshine and rainbows from the outside [19:25:26]