[01:10:28] they are [01:33:45] Is there a copyedit bot? [01:34:08] Incase of reusing Fandom text and import into Mira [01:34:26] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1232495874836398151/1232503424357241015 thats kinda fun lol I had no idea polls existed in Discord lol [01:37:48] yeah its a new features [01:38:30] I'm probably gonna be using that every once in awhile lol [02:14:55] Fandom has their stuff under Creative Commons iirc but for SEO creating duplicates of other websites is not a good idea [02:57:31] Hi, does anyone know if its possible to templatize s? Im having trouble with it, as in its not accepting parameters, not sure if this is just a thing that does not work [03:03:22] Aha, sorry, it looks like the solution was this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Miscellaneous [03:06:56] [1/2] Working implementation if anyone else wants to do this for some reason [03:06:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232528175515439206/image.png?ex=6629c8d0&is=66287750&hm=75a7e3126f1c94b2d58168b54354647b8c7300c299202553e52de175358d3b62& [13:14:28] <7xing_unasozu> how to add more language versions to the wiki [13:17:07] [[mw:Extension:Translate]] [13:17:07] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate [13:17:08]

[13:17:21] <7xing_unasozu> awwwaww okk [13:24:28] Hello! I've sent an email to sre regarding a wiki migration last Friday; when should I expect a reply? Thanks! [13:31:38] a good part of SRE is sort of on break at the moment especially relating to migration; possibly @cosmicalpha has insight on this though ^ [13:35:01] Ok! Any thoughts on a possible date for the migration to happen? [13:36:59] technically migration should have already finished as far as I know but unfortunately communication on that has been rough [13:37:15] what is the original wiki's url? [13:37:20] ocess.wikitide.org [13:40:14] tracking on discord side with support thread: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1232687475282022451 [13:40:42] since ca is pinged and agent is not currently available not much more I can think of for now I'm afraid [13:40:59] Ok! I guess I'll just wait until I get an email reply [13:41:07] Thanks for the help anyways [13:41:28] good luck [14:40:28] It’s recent [15:08:29] woo [15:08:42] Miraheze lives on … [15:09:13] :Partyheze: [15:09:51] Until the subject breaches again, anyway [15:09:58] it will [15:12:17] Never doubt the power of incessant nagging [15:12:29] I could have done without the toxicity though [15:30:46] Hello, is there a way to upload a webfont without having a link? [15:32:34] If you have a font file, it's possible to upload it to the wiki and use that reference link instead, but that's not something I've explored personally [15:34:40] Agent has resigned. [15:35:40] this is true [15:36:11] Hi, let's please not panic. [15:37:00] i thought this was known [15:37:01] huh [15:37:26] he left like a few days ago [15:38:27] is he just [15:38:35] gone [15:42:15] How do we even do that? [15:42:16] Agent isn't on this server (as are a few others) as they're taking a much needed break from the high temperatures of conversation the last few days. [15:42:22] font files cant be uploaded [15:42:27] Agent GDPRd himself it looks like [15:42:30] You can update what files are allowed [15:42:45] can you not [15:43:10] wait what? where [15:44:37] Special:ManageWiki/settings - probably the media tab [15:44:55] That's the one [15:45:10] thanks! [15:49:04] [1/2] uhhh? [15:49:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232719972640489492/image.png?ex=662a7b70&is=662929f0&hm=930818d74671bf7fad2bc42519b794bb7c4bfdf6117ecc6d3db3203077c562b8& [15:49:39] I think it's been a feature for a month or so [15:49:48] try again, see if it keeps happening [15:51:54] lock? [15:52:08] never seen that error myself [15:52:28] more like a week or so actually only, for the main full rollout at least (Discord always rolls things out to a small amount of servers or users at first) [15:52:58] same [15:53:00] Ah I see [15:53:06] It was in an anime server I was in on an alt [15:53:20] by linking you mean google fonts? [15:55:02] reference link? [15:55:11] i uploaded it as woff2 but it dosent work [15:55:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232721585660493876/image.png?ex=662a7cf0&is=66292b70&hm=a46341c90caa412c89376b8205e86c71f6cdfeadae83cb1a03084e6b197d3e73& [15:56:32] you need raw file link [15:56:48] it should start w/ "static" [15:57:36] please elaborate [15:57:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232722136498700421/IMG_20240424_185731.jpg?ex=662a7d74&is=66292bf4&hm=3d62b431249e644e43f33e221e3857f6b767385572e801f5eb1fa4b3fea02da0& [15:58:04] dammit, is orangestar no longer here too [15:58:11] how do I get the exact raw link though? [15:58:29] he left a few days ago [15:58:37] wait a sec [16:00:35] [1/3] go to file page - there's no preview, just gonna be a link, you should open it in new tab [16:00:36] [2/3] browser will try to download it, but you need to cancel and copy URL of that tab [16:00:36] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232722870124412928/IMG_20240424_185851.jpg?ex=662a7e23&is=66292ca3&hm=957be43f74972e427630f15d37a2e9e200cca5e68306de12652a2bcf89a05526& [16:01:57] thanks [16:47:46] well, will ya look at that https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Stewardship#Support_3 [17:08:01] [1/7] Hello. I’m new to maintaining wikis. [17:08:01] [2/7] I set up a miraheze wiki for a tabletop RPG I’m running, as an info hub for players. [17:08:01] [3/7] I want to store each of the player character’s sheets on the wiki too. [17:08:02] [4/7] I set up a template that creates a character sheet page when called. But information can’t be added to these pages. [17:08:02] [5/7] Would I have to use Page Forms to enable users to enter data onto character sheets? [17:08:02] [6/7] If so, can anyone recommend an idiot-proof tutorial on how to do that? [17:08:03] [7/7] Thanks. [17:14:02] wait, the rebrand is real? it's not just an April fool's joke? [17:14:06] sounds like something that can be done with [[infoboxes]], though there may be rough edges in that guide it is the best we've got [17:14:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/infoboxes [17:14:07]

[17:14:17] the board has been dead serious about the rebrand yes [17:15:12] so.... there are fake announcements about a fake rebrand, announcements about interpersonal drama happening in response to the rebrand, but no announcement about the rebrand [17:15:22] At least they have put a bit of a pause on it per https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1232699919081406584 So they did at least listen a bit [17:16:06] and the rebrand is to the exact name and logo that was launched late in the day on April fool's day? [17:16:30] was the intent to make it unclear whether the rebrand is real? [17:17:06] Incorrect [17:17:15] There was an announcement about a rebrand by a Board member [17:17:19] It was not "fake" [17:17:19] where [17:17:29] MWCon and the Community Portal [17:17:35] [1/2] The "wikitide" Rebrand has been 100% serious from the start though, and it seemed in fact that they weren't even listening to the community (though that seems to not be true per my above link) [17:17:36] [2/2] The "Orain" rebrand was the Aprils fools and entirely a joke from the start [17:18:31] did they launch the wikitide rebrand before April 1st? I can't find the announcement at all [17:18:53] Hi, going to ask the rebrand discussion stops for now. Thanks! [17:19:38] I literally have no idea what's going on, I feel like this community is just trolling me [17:20:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal#Request_for_Feedback_-_Rename_Miraheze_to_WikiTide [17:20:37] probably the best place to start [17:20:41] [1/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Miraheze%27s_name_and_branding [17:20:41] [2/3] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786602454581249/1230635914536157215 [17:20:41] [3/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal#Request_for_Feedback_-_Rename_Miraheze_to_WikiTide [17:20:49] No, the WikiTide rebrand happened on April 1st, was reverted shortly afterward, and officially announced on the 8th to the Miraheze community and the 18th to the wider wiki community; that is all I will say per Brandon's request [17:21:01] and yes, we can say for sure that the communication surrounding the whole business has been lethally rough [17:21:18] oh yeah, will pause as I missed that message [17:23:25] [1/3] I do believe these are geniuine qeustions, stemmed from confusion. [17:23:25] [2/3] And @tofu.tofu.tofu indeed there hasn't been any big public announcements of the Wikitide Rebrand, only the above linked RfF by the board linked by Collei above, some (or a lot rather when it happened) chatter about it here on discord, and subseqeustion communited opened RfC also linked above by Colley, which is a big part of what has gotten the community into [17:23:25] [3/3] such an uproar about it. [17:26:42] [1/7] jesus christ i'm gonna bite the bullet and say this is really disappointing to watch go down. i'm about to be very harsh but i feel the need to express this [17:26:43] [2/7] i was vaguely aware of something happening when it came to the rebrand. telling people to stop discussing it isn't going to get people to stop, people are rightfully confused about it. and from what i read, agent and two others were pushing for a rebrand from miraheze to wikitide. i remember on april first, people were asking about if the rebrand was an april fools joke, bu [17:26:43] [3/7] t nobody who had power and could say anything did. when it stayed and it turns out yeah, it's an actual rebrand and nobody in the community was consulted, reading up... yeah, people obviously aren't happy with that. and the sarcasm from agent is so childish. i'm not gonna hide my opinion on that. "this day sure was productive" and other comments because people were raising [17:26:43] [4/7] concern about potential abuse of power? really?? [17:26:44] [5/7] nah man. this shit ain't it. let people talk about what happened. let people express their damned concerns because even after reading everything i still struggle to understand why the hell this all happened. and if this is the behavior from june, i'm glad i wasn't around for it, because christ, it's like middle school. does nobody know how to communicate, to talk to each othe [17:26:44] [6/7] r? [17:26:44] [7/7] ngl real gross [17:27:47] With that being said, shutting down the conversation on rebrand here. We've not done enough in the past week to keep things under control and on behalf of the mod team, I apologize for that. [17:28:21] I think as long as this stays civil there’s no reason to halt it [17:28:23] [1/3] me: let peopel talk about it becuase people are rightfully confused and don't understand what is happening [17:28:23] [2/3] you: lets shut it down [17:28:23] [3/3] sorry what [17:29:27] I do think that kind of rants would be better to put into the RfC made about it, in a few hours noone will see it here anymore [17:29:27] This unnecessary censorship and shutting down conversation is exactly what led to the revocation discussion and is what you apologized for and promised would not happen again [17:29:29] The issue is that every rebrand conversation so far has gone beyond civil and bordered on flame warring at times; it's better to stop all discussion on this topic until things cool down [17:29:37] No it hasn't [17:30:09] let me repeat myself: people are going to continue to ask about it. people are going to continue to talk about it. it is something that clearly influenced miraheze's current situation. either let people talk about it or you're going to come off as censoring people rightfully concerned. if you're worried about people getting pissed put on a cooldown [17:30:35] If Brandon insists on shutting down the conversation, then I guess we can talk about it in DMs or on wiki [17:30:36] Let me rephrase: I'm advising a shut down of conversation because as Tali said, conversations like this previously have turned extremely poor. If you can all be civil, feel free to continue. [17:31:15] and let me insist: if the conversation turns poor, put on a cooldown to make it easier to manage [17:31:16] Not insisting but is a piece of advice from me given how this has previously turned out [17:31:36] let's pause for NA's input [17:32:50] Always can't help by giggle a bit at NA as abbreviation for their name, considering what that same abbreviation also can stand for :ManyHappyLaughs: [17:33:21] Alr [17:33:24] Lol yea [17:33:25] Lots of things, including Not Applicable [17:33:45] Yeah Not applicable is the one I am thinking of for sure [17:34:00] Hi, let's all let NA respond, thanks [17:34:13] hi, nobody's stopping them from responding, we're waiting [17:34:35] Don't make me shush y'all. 🤣 lowers librarian glasses [17:34:46] literally like what is the point of making chat go silent to watch someone type [17:35:21] 🤫 [17:36:09] nobody's stopping them, their response won't get burried, people will respond, it's really not a big deal and it doesn't need to be turned into one [17:36:57] They are a moderator and usually have good feedback [17:37:06] So I will wait for their opinion because they are usually reasonable and unbiased [17:37:20] i'm waiting too, doesn't mean me having a conversation in the meantime will result in me ignoring them [17:37:41] Vector 2022 is really bad for recoloring: https://taerel.com/taerelworkshop/index.php/MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css [17:37:42] i'm not a 12 year old who's attention span will immediately disappear if they don't send a message immediately. come on now [17:37:58] We are waiting for NA's opinion on whether the conversation is appropriate and how and where it should be had [17:38:01] discord has its funny ways tbh [17:38:02] Which is reasonable [17:38:05] [1/6] To clarify on exact sequence of events: [17:38:06] [2/6] * The board had been discussing a possible rebrand and what forms that could take for some time [17:38:06] [3/6] * The board approved pursuing a rebrand, along with a timeline in ideal circumstances if community response was positive, in early April [17:38:06] [4/6] * We opened an RfF to get feedback, as originally planned on Meta to solicit user feedback. This was mentioned in a few places, but clearly this wasn't communicated well enough across enough channels. [17:38:06] [5/6] * We heard a mix of feedback including some pretty passionate defense of retaining the existing MH name. [17:38:07] [6/6] * Given that feedback, we've decided to pause on the original timeline until we've had time to discuss internally on how to modify approach while respect community sentiment. [17:38:23] Ah [17:38:37] We haven't not been listening, and several of y'all have raised extremely good points. [17:38:38] You missed that before the last part, Labster originally wanted to go on with the rename. [17:39:06] i'm sure you guys have been listening and all, don't mean to imply otherwise, but i do wanna point out that as far as i'm aware it was not communicated very well at all before april 1st that there was going to be any rebrand [17:39:06] And because nobody else on the Board said anything, the rest of the community just assumed it was going through until the announcement days later [17:39:12] plus it happening on april makes it sound like it's a joke [17:39:15] Idk how long it's been sorry I want to say a week but I don't perceive time well [17:39:18] Heard and acknowledged. [17:39:23] Alr [17:39:29] on top of nobody on april first or further clarifying at the time if it was serious or not LMAO [17:39:34] Yeah [17:39:40] I hope it's been long driven home by now that communication was incredibly rough and they have a critical lesson to take from that [17:39:58] We don't want to shut down discussions, but again, topic's been bludgeoned in most possible ways to bludgeon a non-tangible object [17:40:22] Happy to field questions where it's appropriate for me to answer in my personal capacity, though. [17:40:26] if people get hostile about it, honestly like i said. cooldown and if people continue to be assholes about it, put em on like a 30 minute timeout [17:40:33] Yep yep. [17:40:43] just cause two bad eggs are bad eggs doesn't mean the whole batch should be ruined [17:40:50] IIRC the ability to choose multiple subdomains for wikis was on the long-term radar; that would be a good compromise, allowing us to keep the Miraheze name and incorporate the WikiTide brand into it [17:40:50] Reasonable debate: name of the game. 🙂 [17:40:56] I think that all that can be said has been said and more discussion would just be the same questions being answered and the same grievances acknowledged [17:41:18] I already made this support in ManageWiki but currently restricted but can be unrestricted I guess soon. [17:41:21] yeah i do remember this being talked about and i think just allowing people the option is a good way to incorperate it [17:41:23] I would be fine with the multiple domain names [17:41:25] paddle emote when? [17:42:35] i do wanna stress, my anger isn't towards anyone currently here nor is it a personal kind of anger, it's just, maddening when communication could've prevented all of this. and i wasn't even here for june's events so i had no clue this was like. A Repeated Thing [17:44:31] [1/2] While the announcement about the pause you made earlier today, ofc does make it clear that you (as in the board) have been listening, the relative silence from anyone but Labster, and some of the things they specifically said, did made it seem like you(again the board as a whole) didn't listen earlier on, even if it was not the actual truth, is all I meant to [17:44:31] [2/2] say with my earlier statement, in case it was unclear [17:45:28] Definitely appreciated. As intimated in other channels, I've switched jobs recently and have been at a major deficit for time (MH stuff is pretty much weekends only right now) [17:45:39] think of it, there's people who've seen this stuff since 2015-2016 [17:45:54] fwiw i havent been able to actively help out my main wiki, PTW for a while, so i do relate to not being able to dedicate much to MH [17:46:00] I [17:46:03] how do people PUT UP with that for SO LONG [17:46:07] good question [17:46:15] I've been here since 2020, even that has been headaching [17:46:19] ough i can imagine [17:46:21] owen, void, reception123 are some of our longest burners [17:46:29] I've been steward twice [17:46:37]