[00:27:45] If you wanted to it’s not that complicated to learn config PRs [00:28:10] that i've though about learning [00:30:54] I need to finish [[User:PixDeVl/TC 101]] [00:30:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl/TC_101 [00:30:54]

[00:31:33] technically we do have two others with full ops, but they haven't been very active [00:38:07] um @Site Reliability Engineers repeated 502s across wikis [00:38:26] [1/6] ``` [00:38:27] [2/6] MediaWiki internal error. [00:38:27] [3/6] Original exception: [f4760def0ce75e175ac079b9] 2024-04-25 00:38:18: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" [00:38:27] [4/6] Exception caught inside exception handler. [00:38:28] [5/6] Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information. [00:38:28] [6/6] ``` [00:38:30] and now that [00:38:41] yeah mine has a 503 [00:38:55] something isn't happy [00:38:58] Oh ffs [00:39:05] oh now it works [00:39:20] might have been a blip [00:39:42] @MediaWiki Engineers can someone chedk graylog to see whats up [00:39:54] is it still down? [00:39:58] no [00:39:59] still is for some wikis [00:40:01] not for others [00:40:04] it isn't for mine [00:40:15] looking up the exception now [00:40:16] Mine was down for like a minute but it came back just now [00:41:37] If it isn't still down I'll leave this to MacFan4000 as I'm gonna call it an early night. Will be back tomorrow. [00:41:40] also quick Q @cosmicalpha [00:41:52] am I good to remove all mentions of Agent as a Director from Meta? [00:42:01] actually graylog seems to be fully broken - no new entries since april 20th [00:42:07] 💀 [00:42:12] Please let the board do that [00:42:16] got it [00:42:19] oh [00:42:28] I'll look tomorrow [00:43:48] I really am gonna call it a night sorry for everything that happened today all. Hopefully tomorrow will be better... [00:43:59] good night CA [00:44:05] Good night, get some rest [00:44:11] Been a trying time on us all [00:44:28] gn [00:47:01] Good night [00:47:12] no worries, and indeed [00:48:07] oh dear:/ [01:00:07] i eepy mos [01:12:11] Don’t want to post as an announcement…cuz yeah [01:12:14] But it’s now done [01:12:28] Agent is officially no longer a member of the Board [01:13:23] we must move forward [01:13:31] We must [01:20:26] Welcome back @serverlessharej [01:20:43] welcome back! [01:21:02] o7 [01:21:04] Hi [01:21:35] welcome back [01:21:53] glad to have ya back [01:24:13] Quick note: Lets not add stuff/create pages for vanished users [01:24:37] If they wanted their userpage to have a retired template, they would've added it... [01:25:08] Yep, seconded [01:25:14] oh my bad [01:25:24] all good 🙂 [01:25:37] No problem [01:25:42] technically the global user page won't display as it's not under the same page name [01:25:43] @serverlessharej mind if I reopen your mod request? [01:25:48] or would you prefer it's closed [01:26:08] You beat me to requesting deletion :I [01:26:25] Feel free to re-open [01:26:40] oh cool 🙂 [01:53:01] was going to manually archive stuff on the noticeboards today but far too late for that on my end [02:02:20] No worries, you're a busy guy. [02:02:23] Get some rest [02:11:01] [1/3] What I need seems to be the exact opposite of Wikibot and WikiAuthbot. I'm looking for a way to link my NEW Wiki to an Existing Discord server full of hundreds of verified users to set up accounts painlessly on the the New Wiki. It currently only has me as user! It would assing roles in the Wiki that exist in Discord, this would ask users to log into Discord using a process li [02:11:01] [2/3] ke OAuth2 to get their discord server list, and if our Discord server is found the Server Roles on it. It would create a new users and assign roles if the user is found and no corresponding wiki user is found. [02:11:01] [3/3] After the first time the user might continue to use Oauth to login or use their wiki user. [02:49:24] Unfor [02:51:57] Are you able to set up oauth2? [03:49:08] thought someone died for a sec [03:50:17] [1/3] just saying, I don't oppose other people editing/updating the guide lol [03:50:17] [2/3] I just can't think of what else to add but advanced PI coding examples like [03:50:17] [3/3] or how to make it sound even more simpler (I tried) [04:00:51] Setting that up would be great. Do you have link to docs? [04:13:43] [1/3] So on this page it's still missing the lines and it's the original image, but if you actually click it it's the updated version with the lines, do I just have to wait for it to update? I've been waiting like two days ngl, little confused [04:13:43] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232907367474004001/Screenshot_20240424-231149_Chrome.jpg?ex=662b29f6&is=6629d876&hm=4a926ac084a49745e217e4fdc445721cf57168eea3acedaa729b7b046c10d237& [04:13:43] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232907367876792420/Screenshot_20240424-231154_Chrome.jpg?ex=662b29f6&is=6629d876&hm=597854108edb27c10e8a3df19c138349ac55772be698852073e87e319294d67c& [04:16:32] have you cleared the cache of the page yet? [04:22:46] I think so? Just incase how do you do that? [04:23:59] add `?action=purge` to the end of the url [04:29:44] [1/2] Ok noob question but: Creating pages from scratch. I'm trying to help a friend start up their wiki by providing some infoboxes but I cannot find a 'create page' type button anywhere. With editing the T&B Wiki we haven't needed to create any new pages during the move, so I completley forgot abt the lack of a 'create page' button. [04:29:44] [2/2] Now I'm not an admin on this new wiki so I can't change any settings or whatever so how do I create a page in this scenario? Template or otherwise? [04:31:12] Didn't work, weirdly only doesn't pop up on that specific page, it's updated on other pages though [04:34:34] [1/2] Go to page you want to create, Is ↓ this link available? [04:34:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232912613034299402/image.png?ex=662b2ed9&is=6629dd59&hm=4bafe43e9d2f134c341dd30d7cac3e837b563e764c5f48761f479f72f801cc4c& [04:34:51] could you link the page this is happening on? [04:35:43] Scroll down to Zazari https://kaizenriteshon.miraheze.org/wiki/Kaizenrit%C4%93shon_Clan [04:36:05] [1/2] looks normal to me :ThinkerMH: [04:36:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232912998264344636/image.png?ex=662b2f35&is=6629ddb5&hm=80d3cb4c30d62883a785b61c7ca306437dd17dbf9da8bd7a83c9aea604925e9b& [04:36:30] Bruh, computer being googy I guess lol [04:36:32] but it could also be because i'm not logged in, if so it's a cache issue [04:37:08] [1/2] Sorry, still deprogramming from fandom, since on there page creation was as easy as clicking on the create page and putting in a title (which is, a little too easy). [04:37:09] [2/2] Is the only way to make a page being to search for one that doesn't exist or follow a red link? [04:37:47] [1/2] iirc there's extension which add "Create page" button or link [04:37:48] [2/2] alternatively, Cosmos skin has that on itsown [04:38:19] I cleared the cache, I'll just have to see tomarrow [04:41:28] try inputbox for ease of use [04:41:41] been having the same issue, have purged the page like 5 times and cleared my browser cache just as many times, the image still isn't updating [04:42:02] and i'm not the only one having that happen on my wiki. mostly just confused [04:42:27] I'll see what I can do with this information for my friend's Wiki, since I'm not admin on it [04:42:31] a very large amount of content is being cached, do you have multipurge enabled? that will allow you to clear the page cache [04:42:42] uhh if that's an extension the answer is no [04:42:56] it's been happening on and off for the past few days [04:43:00] O.o using cloudflare but not multipurge? [04:43:24] i am not very familiar with the available extensions admittedly [04:43:26] wiki content at the moment is being rather aggressively cached so... [04:43:32] ah 😔 [04:43:52] i'll let CA know in morning to get multipurge installed [04:44:12] wait do you mean on my own wiki or like. a mira wide thing? [04:44:21] i just haven't checked that on my own wiki [04:44:42] oh it is installed [04:44:50] at least on meta [04:45:25] searching in the extensions manager doesn't bring it up, is that something i have to install? [04:47:29] it might be global [04:48:16] [1/2] @verityoffaith do you see a link called "Purge cache" anywhere? [04:48:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232916062958522422/image.png?ex=662b320f&is=6629e08f&hm=3793de120f20c4f2cf6cc88879df03969d247699093fc0e90d7952d1656965ae& [04:48:24] [1/2] it should show up here on a search, then? o ram i doing something wrong :ThinkerMH: [04:48:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232916098865823785/image.png?ex=662b3218&is=6629e098&hm=28c1c2da14acb2d72e845f36add69907a44919f737aaacf2766565232f70b8e2& [04:48:32] there's the purge button, but not purge cache [04:48:45] not that [04:48:49] @elliethepwincess Do a local hard reload on your browser or try another browser. [04:48:56] purge cache tells multipurge to clear the page cache in cloudflare [04:49:01] okay then no [04:49:17] what skin are you on? [04:49:29] vector legacy [04:49:30] it might be in a dropdown [04:49:36] it is not in the dropdown [04:49:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232916456212008981/image.png?ex=662b326d&is=6629e0ed&hm=639a4b217843a969323568cbd00798bf72f9c81136ab700f94dbd138fd637384& [04:50:17] which wiki, give url [04:50:27] https://rainworldmods.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [04:52:23] suppose it's about time i figure this out before this is relevant for any actually important images [04:54:57] can you locate managewiki? [04:55:34] https://rainworldmods.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki [04:55:42] yeah [04:55:51] check if multipurge is available [04:56:13] where would it be if so? [04:56:23] at first glance i don't see anything of the sort [04:56:31] are you admin? [04:56:40] admin and 'crat [04:56:51] screenshot what you see [04:58:40] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232918678828220486/image.png?ex=662b347f&is=6629e2ff&hm=cb2170a028cc3eef5990ba294f31a0bbaa2929e2811582da8f0d76aed097eee7& [04:58:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1232918679176478732/image.png?ex=662b347f&is=6629e2ff&hm=08f31d1144cc47af625838626d1802bfd8947e21137e3ead8923758155bddb12& [04:58:43] is it not an extension? [04:58:48] where should it be? [05:00:35] [1/3] which of these is you? [05:00:36] [2/3] Lurzard talk contribs‏‎ (bureaucrat, interface administrator, administrator) (Created on 24 July 2023 at 22:53) [05:00:36] [3/3] Stardustshimmers talk contribs‏‎ (bureaucrat, administrator) (Created on 12 August 2023 at 04:48) [05:01:20] the latter [05:02:04] you are bcrat and you get same view as a visitor? [05:02:12] ... apparently [05:02:19] now i'm confused [05:02:28] lurzard made the wiki, but i was told previously that there's not really an 'owner' of a wiki [05:02:40] if i have 'crat i should have access to basically everything, right? [05:02:51] depending on how its set up [05:02:55] ugh [05:02:57] maybe that's why [05:16:03] [1/2] As far as I can tell there is no way to enable Oauth on a private Miraheze wiki. I've read about central auth and that plugable auth is blacklisted. I read the meidawiki docs on Oauthauth but those instructions require cli access. I need to also have rules as well as require oauth login to discord. I searchd for Oauthauth in the extentions that can be enabled without much luck. I sear [05:16:04] [2/2] ched core settings for "auth" and did not find anything. That seems unlilkely to be true. [05:20:12] [1/2] if you might help me or can confirm that what I want is not practical please read this whole message and and acknowlege you understand what I am trying to do. I keep getting suggestions that are not helpful. [05:20:12] [2/2] What I need seems to be the exact opposite of Wikibot and WikiAuthbot. I'm looking for a way to link my NEW Wiki to an Existing Discord server full of hundreds of verified users to set up accounts painlessly on the the New Wiki. [05:23:01] [1/2] do you have their email to send a temporary password? [05:23:01] [2/2] i'm sure you could build the url to generate accounts based on discord username using excel [05:31:10] No. They are all users on a discord server. I could send it via discord pm. [05:33:31] why can't they just go register themselves? [05:33:39] then have wikibot confirm? [05:38:30] wikibot confirms that discord users are on the wiki not that wiki users are on discord and have roles there before being given roles on the wiki [05:39:10] Its for when you want to verify new discord users that are already wiki users. It does not work the other way or am i missing something? [05:42:15] What do you mean, where would I set up oauth2? I could to it for a website on a server platform I control. Not sure how that would help me though. [05:47:41] Thinking it though, after they create an account and then verify it with the wiki bot.. Will it post something to Discord? Then I can manually assign them a role that allows them access on the wiki. [05:55:01] Is there really a need to be this complex? [05:55:16] [1/2] It's too bad you can't smoothly create and integrate a wiki with a discord server. So many discord users try to use discord for reference material when it's not the right tool. Being able to smoothly integrate a wiki would be extremely useful and a good way to expand Miraheze user and support base. It's not impossible to get that to work with the monolithic central auth system but it [05:55:16] [2/2] seems it would take a development effort. [05:55:44] Spies are part of the game we play [05:55:48] so YEAH [05:55:58] This sounds like a 1 off request for a specialty bot [05:56:12] Used once and rarely if ever again [05:56:57] If all in server are verified then give them the wiki link [05:57:53] Sereously. Do you think Miraheze has more users or Discord? I would think the miraheze community would want to convert some discord users. [05:58:50] If I need to send links to people, I use a copy-paste message [05:59:04] Only Some of the users would be able to edit some of the namespaces [06:00:29] Ok so the wiki is a roleplay spy game? [06:00:41] No it's call of dragons [06:00:50] Like spies in guild wars? [06:00:52] But yes there are spies [06:01:11] i think so. @theburningfirethatscorchessouls [06:01:46] Typical. [06:01:49] I'm not the one very concerned about spies but we have players that are obsessed with this. [06:02:02] Whether it's spies or dragons, you want to turn a discord server into a full blown role play wiki? [06:02:07] It's extreamly typical of many games. [06:02:25] Tbh if you want people to use a wiki, one way could be a copy paste message (I use macros) [06:02:34] Thats why having a private wiki that is easitly integrated with discord would be perfect. [06:03:45] There's no existing integration to link discord to mediawiki and with how people get scammed out of discord account, I wouldn't ever advise building such a app [06:04:02] Discord bots need maint as well [06:04:39] @m3w I posted one to the chat eariler but pluginauth has been blacklisted so it won't work. [06:06:15]