[00:21:44] https://antonball.miraheze.org/wiki/Anton [00:22:11] I disabled stray setting but idk where it still gets template code from [00:27:19] I guess a bit more and see [00:35:05] Oh shit yay atleast. [00:35:14] Progress is good in any way, thank you. [00:36:11] [1/2] Any way to make it toggle the first image for an infobox with a gallery like these? [00:36:11] [2/2] https://antonball.miraheze.org/wiki/Annalynn_(Character) [01:33:51] Is it just me or do edits just not go through? [01:34:50] They will show up in the history and I can view them by clicking the date, but when I read the article it doesn't show. And when I edit the source the source is from before I edited. I purged and it didn't work. Might just be an issue on my end [01:35:04] Link? [01:35:07] https://carhles.miraheze.org/wiki/Chris_Jones [01:35:32] Supposed to have a birth date of July 2, and it reflects that in the history. But it just doesn't show [01:36:45] https://carhles.miraheze.org/wiki/Chris_Jones?diff=prev&oldid=7904 shows you changing to July 12th though? [01:36:49] Yeah I know [01:36:50] Typo [01:37:02] That is the version that shows for me. [01:37:07] Interesting [01:37:21] I'll try and edit again and wait [01:39:32] It's happening on other pages too, which is strange. I will wait until tomorrow [01:48:29] [1/2] So I made this directory and copied over the code but I guess since now I have both of them there's a third part to it and this is why I get stuck [01:48:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233595595969658940/image.png?ex=662daaed&is=662c596d&hm=48b40d58ed790f051c394fb84ad6847dbed4199e65d629226305997a011e74ba& [01:49:46] [1/2] were do I find this [01:49:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233595918054326343/image.png?ex=662dab39&is=662c59b9&hm=d2ad1e664af00eec71cb5497f5900f6704d77b54349404335403861a533f7530& [01:57:43] mostly just confused, but are there cases where the category bar... thing... doesn't show up at the bottom of a page you've put into a given category? [01:57:58] [1/2] refering to this [01:57:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233597982147084338/image.png?ex=662dad26&is=662c5ba6&hm=6b8d3707af0f0a79e13bcb3225697bcbcaa46e18e973db1e9d4de91faa49b01e& [01:58:31] because i just added a page to a category with `[[Category:Category Name]]` and it. removed itself? [01:58:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Category_Name [01:59:01] it shows up in the category, but if i visit the page this bar doesn't show up, and if i check the source code the `[[Category:Category Name]]` text is gone [01:59:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Category_Name [01:59:24] ... i also keep being briefly logged out when i first access the wiki but that's probably not a related issue [01:59:42] [1/3] edits not showing up (on my wiki) [01:59:42] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233598416588636213/image.png?ex=662dad8d&is=662c5c0d&hm=2155a93df46b989e9ade78a4127b855f9252496ac8c018d167c0b2c02aa20992& [01:59:42] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233598416848949349/image.png?ex=662dad8d&is=662c5c0d&hm=bbf6233d27cc2231350150ac61adf6a908f8b9e9c5134f1b6ff458d554add504& [01:59:45] help [02:00:17] oh. that's the same issue huh [02:00:21] glad it's not just me [02:00:29] also hii aro and agender that's me [02:01:16] cool [02:01:28] [1/2] edits show up in the edit history tab tho [02:01:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233598862854459462/image.png?ex=662dadf8&is=662c5c78&hm=a26c76aad3129fc56757f25169b6899f92e5e7893d336cfc472fea2a0460eaea& [02:02:01] wait now it shows up [02:02:02] i'm so confused [02:02:16] well it shows up in the edit menu, i mean the text is back [02:02:48] ?????????? it's working now [02:02:54] lemme do a test edit [02:02:58] is this a cache thing [02:03:26] [1/2] huhh [02:03:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233599358587506718/image.png?ex=662dae6e&is=662c5cee&hm=16694ac4d3fb9addbaee45885a53fb502305aa467f7584e4edbab49436e13d5f& [02:03:40] so like i rest cache for the wiki? [02:03:49] i... don't even know [02:03:58] i'm still logged in though [02:05:23] wtf is going on [02:05:42] that's what i would like to know 😭 [02:05:53] this is what happends when agentisai is not here to fix everything [02:07:29] id say wait a few [02:07:57] ... okay it has to be a cache thing. my edits are just taking forever to show up i guess? [02:08:17] yep [02:08:23] my test edit just loaded in [02:10:54] and its gonna take forever for the undo to loud in [02:11:45] Okay something very weird is going on with my wiki I made a simple test page just type some random text in it and when I put a save it doesn't wanna save it just saves nothing [02:12:38] @MediaWiki Engineers we know what's going on? [02:13:00] Sounds like the cache isn't getting purged [02:13:12] Yeah that is my fault one sec [02:13:24] i purged 4 times in the last 10 minutes [02:13:35] oh [02:14:06] hm [02:14:58] I accidentally set it to 10 minutes cache without possibility to purge. I changed to 5 seconds now. Could lower to 1 or none if necessary but want to see how this works first. [02:16:00] Sorry [02:16:32] yay thank you [02:18:23] do i have to purge cache again? [02:18:31] No just wait a few minutes [02:18:37] It should catch up [02:18:40] Hopefully [02:19:31] yes it's immediate now [02:19:48] Nice! [02:20:05] So when I was pressing safe it wasn't a problem I was causing in my wiki it was literally out of my control. [02:20:36] Me and my dumb accidental cloudflare changes caused it lol. I apologize. [02:20:51] np [02:21:11] you should redo them and cause mass hysteria [02:21:19] @cosmicalpha I'm reloading the RC feed on Meta [02:21:24] and it's not actually purging [02:21:33] RC isn't cached at all [02:21:41] No special pages are anymore [02:21:59] oh of course duh I have that rule disabled lol [02:22:06] no but it's skimming to Meta:RecentChanges/Community I think [02:22:19] which isn't how that should go [02:22:26] Huh? [02:22:36] I reenabled the rule to stop caching special pages [02:23:41] hmmm [02:23:45] yeah it was for a second [02:23:47] I have no idea why [02:23:53] it seems to be okay now [02:23:59] Do you have to be making major edits to your wiki for it to be considered "active" [02:24:06] but ctrl+R was blipping to Meta:RecentChanges for a second [02:24:08] no [02:24:12] any edits/log actions count [02:32:24] Hey look i’m not alone [02:32:27] :D [02:32:44] Assuming you mean in relation to the dormancy policy, no, any edits should suffice [02:32:56] lol yeah I purged your pages manually not realizing it was a larger issue. Sorry... [02:33:14] No worries lol. I restarted my computer and I thought that fixed it [02:50:41] think its happening again but idk [02:52:36] for later [03:11:14] i forgot how to delete pages [03:13:33] `Special:Delete/[page name]` [03:13:46] thanks [03:18:55] i cannot delete my testing page because i don't have admin perms [03:19:47] oh because i did not request perms [03:47:40] [1/2] didn't I told you the code should be on Common.js and Common.css? [03:47:40] [2/2] for ID go to Discord server's settings [03:49:09] Right stupid me [03:50:27] don't say that lol [04:01:12] [1/2] Hopefully it doesn't break any of the code that's already in there [04:01:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233628946319278172/image.png?ex=662dc9fc&is=662c787c&hm=08fd69594409c8e826791880036b0666e43161cf392800aca2e82de81962b8ef& [04:06:00] after waiting 1 hour i got testwiki perms [04:06:03] yey [05:03:45] guys why did i get Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp41.wikitide.net at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:02:18 GMT? [05:04:02] just happened to me also [05:04:03] it just happens lol [05:04:21] Which wiki? We don't use cp servers for miraheze.org anymore so must be a custom domain or something [05:04:38] testwiki [05:04:48] Ah yep custom domain [05:05:03] my wiki has a custom domain and it never went down :ThinkerMH: [05:05:22] Are you in Asia? [05:05:32] no [05:05:44] cp41 is Asia that is probably why [05:05:47] i see [05:31:27] [1/3] Could someone elaborate on what this is stating [05:31:27] [2/3] I'm confused if its talking about 1 or 2 pages here [05:31:27] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233651705858490368/Screenshot_20240427_082903_Chrome.png?ex=662ddf2e&is=662c8dae&hm=e4bd38088fb890df5bde97ae198e781c7120e8358e33833eefc54fc35289d4c4& [05:32:00] I am confused too [05:32:18] it means it's recommended to have the main page be the same name as the wiki itself [05:32:36] and to put said main page name be the specified page in `MediaWiki:Mainpage` [05:33:48] i will admit it's a bit confusing and that paragraph isn't really coherent lol [05:34:37] So do I do anything to the main page under the (main) namespace? [05:35:00] by default the main page would just be called "Main Page" but usually it should just stay default [05:35:12] it doesn't really change much from my experience [05:35:45] Alright, thanks for clearing it up [05:35:50] np [05:36:06] also what's with the random threads being created and the creation message being removed? [05:36:19] nothing [05:36:38] i'm not sure what "Private Notes" is for but it's not private, it's public [05:36:46] ok [05:37:49] You should probably do testing in your own server [05:38:34] in my main server, robot server, server, or wiki server? [05:39:07] ... [05:40:44] [1/3] by default it's in main namespace, yeah [05:40:45] [2/3] Fandom changes main page title from "Main Page" to name of the wiki for the sake of SEO, so you can try that [05:40:45] [3/3] I, personally, move main page to project namespace + use DISPLAYTITLE, so it won't count to content pages [05:41:30] Alright [05:41:33] Thanks [05:43:33] Is it possible to change the title of a redirect? [05:44:24] if you click on link which is redirect, under normal page there must be "Redirect from ..." caption, you can click on link in there again [05:44:38] there's also URL parameter for that but I forgot which lol [05:44:52] adding `?redirect=no` makes redirects not redirect [05:45:05] yeah that [05:46:47] Hmm [05:55:27] [1/3] I have a page with all the characters from the game [05:55:27] [2/3] I didn't want to make individual pages for them because there isn't enough information to warrant a stand alone page for em, cuz otherwise there will be 30+ pages that would be mostly empty [05:55:27] [3/3] But because the fandom wiki has all the bunnies as individual pages, idk how I want to counter that [06:06:01] why does it shows default main page when logged out but shows my edited main page when logged in [06:06:13] i pressed purge 2 times [06:06:41] logged out usually takes longer to update than when logged in [06:06:50] CF issues i'm guessing [06:06:59] ok [06:07:42] the first edit i made in the main page was 1 day ago [06:09:20] This is like playing whack-a-mole with CF [06:14:52] i will make a video on how to make a wiki in tiktok (of course with miraheze!) [06:28:31] [1/3] this pertains to when you click on your wiki logo, it will take you to your wiki's home page. if you don't modify that page, it will be titled Main Page otherwise will auto redirect to the Title listed. [06:28:32] [2/3] if the title does not exist, will need to create it [06:28:32] [3/3] where ever that is located, needs revising [06:39:53] I am now very confused [06:40:50] cache is acting weird, i created a page but it down't show immediately [06:40:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233669198157189170/Screen_Recording_20240427_094036_Chrome.mp4?ex=662def79&is=662c9df9&hm=284223dd6af0428ae536ee3d5820d80e58364f9200491ab3ec5b78a7e20e71b0& [06:41:22] oh i love cache issues [06:42:40] it's still probably CF as i previously said so... [06:43:03] although I'm not noticing any cache issues on my wiki [06:53:28] It's now showing properly [07:12:10] cache issues over here [07:13:23] It can't be as I disabled cache temp [07:13:39] Well Cloudflare cache [07:14:01] And... I am tired... I forgot to save ine sec [07:24:23] results: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSF3RoYJD/ [07:28:15] [1/4] Sorry to bother you @theoneandonlylegroom, but think I just found something weird about this that may or may not help? [07:28:16] [2/4] This page right here has basically the 100% intended effect of what I want, however at the top of the page says "Error: {{#seo:}} must contain at least one non-empty attribute.". [07:28:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23seo:Template: [07:28:16] [3/4] Any idea on the how and why, and how this could maybe be utilized to properly get the effect wanted? [07:28:16] [4/4] https://antonball.miraheze.org/wiki/Blinding_Ruby [07:54:14] thank you for disabling cache temp as it fixed my problem [07:57:58] thank you for disabling cache temp as when i purge my wiki it fixed [08:02:09] wait a second, the fix is temp! [08:05:51] update: it goes back and back in a loop? how to fix? [09:33:53] 1 hour no answer. [09:34:01] it rhymes [09:35:26] please be patient, we are volunteers and not everyone who knows the answer to your question is always available [09:42:08] [1/4] It is weekend, In Europe it's morning, in the US everyone is still warm in their bed. These periods are always understaffed. We acknowledge that it can be frustrated. [09:42:09] [2/4] Have you tried to delete your cookies and browser cache? [09:42:09] [3/4] Have you tried a different browser? [09:42:09] [4/4] Have you tried to purge by addding `?action=purge` behind the websites url? [10:02:51] i think my discord account got banned or something everything keeps loading [10:03:11] yaey [10:51:50] Sounds like an internet issue @bryceeetaylorrrd [12:52:32] 67% of people who made a wiki are here, 33% are maybe just kids who wants a wiki to mess with stuff they (don't) know [13:08:24] I want to setup a private wiki, with some pages whitelisted, meaning publically viewable. I understand this is standard. [13:08:24] For logged in users, I want there to be different levels of view permissions. Say Level1, Level2. [13:08:25] And similarly, but not exactly the same, I want to have different user groups for edit permissions for pages, say EditLevel1, EditLevel2. [13:08:25] Conceptually, I would tag a page such as  PageA with #Level1 #EditLevel2 [13:08:26] so that only users with #Level1 or above could view, but user would have to also be in #EditLevel2 or higher, to be able to edit. [13:08:26] Would it be possible, and could anybody point me in the right direction please? [13:08:52] Hm [13:09:14] For different levels of view not to my knowledge [13:09:30] You can whitelist some pages for everyone or give someone view permission [13:09:47] You can use protection levels in order to control editing [13:12:37] thanks  : ) [13:55:25] [1/2] [[Community_portal#Global_captcha_exempt]] [13:55:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal#Global_captcha_exempt [13:55:25] [2/2] pls give feedback [13:55:26] [15:07:23] [1/2] i am unsure what will happen to agent's bureaucrat role on the polandball wiki [15:07:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233796646811336714/image.png?ex=662e662b&is=662d14ab&hm=c50740e95dcb25029e14f34cb1a5f6e0a5a92c82fdf0b36f3c057aa034cbbc06& [15:07:47] Stewards will remove, eventually [15:09:42] i feel like i should open a request for comment on the wiki itself to discuss the ramifications of agent's departure [15:10:44] Unless a standing steward does it first, my plan early on includes reviewing all agent related community functions [15:11:01] Ballmedia and polandball main among them [15:11:29] [1/2] the thing is agent's alt has ownership of the pbw server [15:11:29] [2/2] and he has gone radio silent [15:11:47] i will wait up to a month for his response before doing anything [15:12:13] CosmicAlpha will raise the topic when he gets the chance [16:27:30] @kiju1108 [16:28:02] If he is gone for I think 3 months you can ask Discord to transfer to someone else btw. [16:28:06] it will be removed of course [16:28:25] there's no point in a locked account keeping advanced local perms [16:28:44] RemovePII should really auto remove that [16:28:52] 😭 agent [16:28:56] hmmmm [16:29:03] how complicated would that be [16:29:08] Not very [16:29:33] if you wanna make a phorge task i may give it a shot at some point [16:29:59] ive been talking with recep about a follow up to my pr from last night i mean this morning [16:30:07] i could try that after [16:30:30] i like learning different parts of the code and haven't worked with mediawiki rights [16:30:44] [1/2] * This raises the question, that perhaps not a single user, but a multi-user account should have such a role. [16:30:44] [2/2] Exactly to prevent such from happening again. [16:31:13] [1/7] Would just use [16:31:13] [2/7] ``` [16:31:13] [3/7] foreach ( $userGroups as $group ) { [16:31:13] [4/7] MediaWikiServices::getService()->getUserGroupManager()->removeUserFromGroup( $newName, $group ) [16:31:14] [5/7] } [16:31:14] [6/7] ``` [16:31:14] [7/7] Or something not exact... [16:31:54] crat and sysop prob [16:32:00] or may just all rights] [16:32:23] Well no, youd just get all current assigned user groups, loop over that, and remove [16:32:33] Ok I'm going back on getting a discord join box on my wiki to show up on every page I realized that using what fandom has isn't actually that practical Because it does take valuable screenspace away for its right side bar on cosmo skin I noticed this when I was enabling show recent changes [16:32:33] ye [16:32:42] I don't know the function to get all assigned but it does exist. [16:32:43] i think the hard part would be running it on remote wikis [16:32:45] well [16:32:47] prob not hard [16:32:52] i just don't know how [16:33:09] No, RemovePII runs on each individual wiki so adding to RemovePIIJob would run on proper wiki [16:33:12] nothing a few hours of reading code can't not fix [16:33:16] perfect [16:35:45] Hello [16:35:51] May I ask a question? [16:35:55] sure [16:36:16] [Don't need to ask to ask](https://dontasktoask.com/) 🙂 [16:36:25] just ask away [16:36:35] we'll help ya however we can [16:36:57] can I make the task for this? [16:38:46] I am migrating a big wiki from Fandom. I do not wish to discuss the details in public but I was discussing this via email with Agent Isai. I have not received any more correspondence from them in many days. How do I contact them directly? [16:39:02] [1/3] A few months ago I Copied this JavaScript that works perfectly fine when loading it up on a wiki page now is there any way to make this let's say show up at the bottom or top of a wiki on all pages ? [16:39:02] [2/3] Because I realized copying over fandom isn't maybe so good an idea since it takes away the right side from the screen I just need to find a less intrusive method [16:39:03] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233819710278074558/image.png?ex=662e7ba6&is=662d2a26&hm=a919cf7d7122a6381ec0fb3a8f227dc4fead0f06e2af019fdb251b5b48bcc49b& [16:41:09] Agent Isai resigned from all roles, including SRE [16:41:17] no point contacting them anymore [16:41:21] Agent has left Miraheze. [16:41:27] It's a long story. [16:41:44] Sure! [16:41:48] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12077 [16:41:50] What is SRE? [16:41:54] sorry [16:41:58] Site Reliability Engineer [16:42:06] Our tech team [16:42:17] he resigned from all roles and vanished his account [16:42:22] Why did they resign? [16:42:27] Long story [16:42:49] i will keep it short [16:43:16] pushback from attempted rebranding of miraheze to wikitide [16:43:21] Partly due to overwork, toxic environment cause by a select few discord users [16:43:25] yeah [16:43:47] poor lad works 30 hours a week plus being the main person along with CA carrying SRE [16:45:18] I mainly contacted Agent Isai directly because I knew they were helping numerous Fandom wikis migrate to Miraheze. [16:45:30] Yeah. [16:45:38] I will rethink migrating my community here, especially now that I hear that there is a toxic community on this platform. [16:46:18] That's understandable and I won't stop you. My two cents, the community overall is nice. There's just a select minority on discord that overreacted [16:46:53] the vast majority i've interacted with are very nice. But it is of course you're prerogative to move where you wish. [16:47:10] I don't necessarily agree there was toxicity - there was a lot of people who were passionate and frustrated over a lack of response over a very vital issue. Less toxic, more misinterpreted fustration. [16:47:22] That is a more accurate assesment yes. [16:47:43] I know I'm an outsider here but my experience would fandom has been very toxic [16:47:59] Agent left because of a decision within the board it didn't have much to do with the community overall. [16:48:20] If you want to ask about moving, feel free to ask here. if it's privateish, I am personally open to helping where I am able. Some of our other volunteers may as well [16:48:27] How do I contact Agent Isai? [16:49:07] Agent has left Miraheze per the above(a board decison he disagreed with and overword) [16:49:45] I am very sorry for the inconvenience. [16:56:05] He has cut all ties. His Discord is deactivated and his wiki-account is too. [16:57:20] But Miraheze is not just Isai, There is a group of volunteers that would like to take over and help out. [17:03:03] Things cooled down again, so we're good. Regrettably without Agent Isai. [17:03:12] I hope that the project will continue now that I read all this [17:03:43] We'll continue [17:03:49] Absolutely [17:03:56] We should be doing better at how we act though [17:04:04] this is nothing compared to june 23 [17:04:11] Cool I put so much work into the archive [17:04:27] @owenrb should be well aware of our history with being unpleasant towards some people [17:05:30] We just need to stick our noses in one direction (no not the band) and look towards the same goal. [17:06:00] I was gonna say, I don't think my nose would be welcome [17:09:08] Not usually very toxic, there are a lot of well meaning people on this wiki, and people who volunteer help when they can. But generally Miraheze will happily leave you to it, its just been an eventful past year and the staff are trying to figure out where the best foot forward is. [17:09:42] [1/2] Seriously creating this archive of fan art was an immense amount of work and I just wanted to do it because all these names were getting lost [17:09:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233827429181558924/image.png?ex=662e82d6&is=662d3156&hm=ec7d0cb8f7a2497b223f329c429fcce6583b6eb6c6ad9d9de797a3746b48ed68& [17:17:56] [1/4] Back to what I came here to ask because I really need to get that discord ready and well at first I thought about using the interface from fandom but I realized that probably not a good idea [17:17:56] [2/4] Because it uses the right side of the screen and then it takes valuable screen space away from the wiki [17:17:56] [3/4] So is there any way to make it let's say appear at the top of a page like here ? [17:17:57] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233829497971933304/image.png?ex=662e84c3&is=662d3343&hm=21b9c731d869fe99c6feaaea1bc8547beaabd9fe627da6ab250a2e6d859bf657& [17:35:41] You could with JavaScript. [17:37:13] https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:Rodejong [17:38:15] [1/4] ```
[17:38:16] [2/4] ---- ANYTHING HERE ---- [17:38:16] [3/4] /div/div/div [17:38:16] [4/4] /div``` [17:42:29] not only Agent was helping migrating wiki for example I helped Pizza Tower Wiki [17:42:52] Depending on what you need we can help [17:42:57] the base procedure is same really [17:43:09] some details might differ between wikis [17:43:30] To clarify, was he helping download the wiki in order to migrate? If that’s the case, I can actually go ahead and do that for you bow [18:41:05] Hello!! I’m not sure if this is the right thing to do but I just wanted to ask how long it would take for a will to be reviewed? [18:41:45] Request review times depend mostly on volunteer availability; that being said, most requests are reviewed within a few days [18:42:12] Okay thank you!! [19:45:59] Right that comes with its own disadvantages it basically floats and also gets in the way of text [19:46:46] I think there is not really a perfect solution is there [19:48:06] Cache is still having issues on my wiki [19:48:37] https://dreamverse.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Druaya.svg [19:48:39] The affected file [19:49:08] in what way [19:49:50] image file is not updating to current version for thumbnail [19:51:28] [1/2] you uploaded 2 of basically same image within a minute of each other, this is what I see [19:51:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233868135338344539/Flag_of_Druaya.png?ex=662ea8bf&is=662d573f&hm=e5f78ca250f6c2044ffe002dead803f13fa1d0333071486cfb6910ed492ca609& [19:52:21] the color is slightly different [19:52:24] at the bottom [19:53:22] clearing cookies and then purging doesn't work [19:54:25] is there any way to correct this? [19:54:56] last night, CA changed the cache expire to either 1 min or 5 min [19:55:40] is the link for "purge cache" limited to certaini usergroups? [19:55:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233869248447643678/image.png?ex=662ea9c9&is=662d5849&hm=01d33d1a2c8fa84f6df459f7e03daf7012f8ffbe87b4d7eb297f222c7aa57582& [19:56:21] that might be it, where is it normally supposed to be? [19:57:35] [1/2] https://stowiki.net/wiki/Main_Page [19:57:35] [2/2] here is example [19:57:47] that force flushes the CF cache [19:58:03] though I can see why sre doesn't want readers or editors having it [19:58:24] i'm the only bureaucrat for my wiki though [19:59:10] from what I understand, multipurge is installed globally and can't be managed via managewiki it seems [19:59:28] so how am i supposed to purge cache? [20:00:47] the standard purge button ins't working [20:01:55] go to special:version and check if `multipurge` is installed [20:02:23] see if you can access Special:PurgeResources, might need interfaceadmin [20:02:31] it's listed an installed [20:02:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233870976467341392/image.png?ex=662eab65&is=662d59e5&hm=720c2c9c6a48fa3cd9cfab7cbc5f08b03006b89ddca06f7720f00c8ba0a9f430& [20:03:19] CA is the one converting but needs to pack for a trip so [20:03:43] what am i supposed to do at this screen [20:04:45] probably provide the page title [20:04:55] what is up with the missing qqq.json [20:06:40] i don't know [20:06:51] poke sre [20:13:43] add `?action=purge` behind the websites url [20:13:55] i did that, didn't work [20:14:39] Are you the only one who has this problem, or others having the same problem? [20:14:45] Just came in here [20:15:33] same complaint throughout the week [20:15:42] cache isn't being cleared fast enough [20:15:45] afaik, only me [20:15:54] thing is i uploaded the file hours ago last night [20:15:57] in this case, just ^ [20:16:44] are you one google chrome? could install cache killer [20:17:53] on chrome, yes [20:18:21] Try opening the page Incogito [20:18:28] that still doesn't work [20:18:39] Another browser? [20:18:47] i.e. Firefox [20:18:51] it works in incognito [20:19:38] [1/2] Yeah than it is definitely your browser [20:19:38] [2/2] Try disabling all your extensions [20:19:52] See if one of these is caching [20:20:18] doesn't work there [20:20:55] You cleared the cookies and cache right? Did you restart your device after that? [20:21:47] yeah i cleared those [20:21:51] i didn't restart [20:22:08] Try it again. [20:22:18] Sometimes you need to give it a kick [20:23:29] restart didn't do it [20:24:08] See if it works in 5 minutes I tried another change [20:24:16] got it [20:24:18] safari worked [20:30:27] nope [20:31:10] still didn't work [20:37:00] @azve can you send me the full page headers [20:37:07] For response & request [20:37:18] full page headers? [20:37:55] http Headers i gues [20:38:20] not sure what you mean [20:39:40] https://dreamverse.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Druaya.svg [20:39:43] here's the page [20:42:00] [1/3] two questions: [20:42:00] [2/3] 1. how does mentioning people on a talk page work exactly? i looked it up and it says to do `[[User:Username|Username]]` or something of the like, and it should leave a notif, but someone else tried to ping me and it didn't seem like it worked [20:42:00] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Username [20:42:00] [3/3] 2. apparently pages are getting autoprotected for new editors on my wiki...? is that because i have email verification set up to prevent anon editing, or is that like. a default miraheze thing. regardless, is that something i can poke at [20:42:00] [1/2] if u open devtools, in the network section you can see the list of headers that were sent [20:42:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233880853642215465/image.png?ex=662eb497&is=662d6317&hm=a229fd48f0206c1ab20802f045b4de725757457a19015854d91d04c0d90d55d2& [20:43:41] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233881279175593984/image.png?ex=662eb4fd&is=662d637d&hm=c96f0eccbe45cbe20f2fd5bcd3b4305c8278dab8c5735cf0600784878089f917& [20:43:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233881279460675707/image.png?ex=662eb4fd&is=662d637d&hm=a3724635c7ccef22debd0ed1cbcfd649a5d5dddc34a221e2c8fbfaf565235c1a& [20:44:46] There is a headers tab, look in there. Under the same menu. [20:44:56] Please don't paste them publicly [20:45:24] If you click on the main request [20:45:31] Which will match the url [20:46:53] What should I do? I want to upload a logo for my wiki. Should I import this logo from my images, or should I upload it to the wiki first and then add it via a link? (CSS) [20:47:53] depend of what you mean by logo but under ManageWiki/settings in the style section you can add a logo / favicon etc [20:48:31] thx [21:16:31] For the first one I think linking to them yeah. I’d neednto check docs [21:16:42] in meta we have {{Ping}} [21:16:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Ping [21:16:43] [21:16:54] yeah i saw that, i was looking at uh [21:17:03] [1/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Mention [21:17:04] [2/2] this [21:17:16] which mentions ping but also says what exactly i type for it [21:18:39] specifically they copied what i wrote and replaced the ping with my username, but they didn't leave a space between the last bracket and the start of their message. idk if that affects anything [21:31:31] [1/4] sorry man, but I'm really not in condition for support, haven't touched laptop today too [21:31:31] [2/4] wild guess but maybe WikiSEO has to have something, by default it would use `.` [21:31:31] [3/4] maybe try to make a template w/ WikiSEO syntax, give it same image parameter and something for description, maybe a hard space break, or something like "from fan encyclopedia about summitsphere" [21:31:32] [4/4] then use that template in infoboxes instead of parser function (syntax) [21:31:58] hi [21:32:12] and i could need help with smth i cant manage #how to enable/disable create account option [21:32:47] and i own the wiki and im the bureaucrat as well