[01:52:08] can i make ai write an article? [01:52:17] is that against some policy? [01:52:37] i don't see why you wouldn't be able to [01:53:41] alr, ty [02:03:01] i was thinking that since i created my wiki [02:06:16] may a local bureaucrat promote other users to bureaucrat without an election? [02:07:04] yes [02:07:15] local elections are only necessary if there are no active bureaucrats [02:11:59] Maintenance in about 3 hours by the way [02:12:31] 30 minute maintenance ain't that long so all good [02:12:47] [1/2] if you could remove bureaucrat from this locked user btw, that would be great [02:12:47] [2/2] https://polandballwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/MirahezeGDPR_7d0d9955a879b561967e37f13c9e30c8 [02:13:25] That is just what I am hoping the maintenance will include rebooting all the physical servers also. It could go a bit over but hopefully not long. [02:13:34] ah ok [02:14:04] still i can wait :p [02:16:23] why is comment box gone ? [02:17:18] [1/2] it's still there [02:17:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233965233769418813/image.png?ex=662f032d&is=662db1ad&hm=1334b4683d305370101a47a2b9b10eee12126c8c673db2f33036dae71817f34c& [02:17:50] unless you mean on pages and in that case I don't know as I'm not familar with that extension [02:18:26] mate [02:18:35] there's no need to make so many threads [02:18:38] [1/2] I have this option enabled [02:18:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233965569062080632/image.png?ex=662f037d&is=662db1fd&hm=f2fe5dbd8fd2f3fd5f7772adcb15bfd18d31eb465751b724fa8347e10c33ad72& [02:18:59] @bryceeetaylorrrd please stop making random pointless threads. Thanks! [02:19:10] okay [02:19:34] my inner brain is pressing the threads button [02:29:02] [1/2] I still can't figure out why it disappeared when it's turned on [02:29:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233968187146764298/image.png?ex=662f05ed&is=662db46d&hm=21733fe2c165f5e297042f203c9c0a3a5836795b7e55331b382f5f07112fc51c& [02:30:35] so are you saying that you'll support us in transfering ownership if he doesn't respond? [02:36:09] Of course but you don't need my support, Discord should be able to process it. [02:40:36] [1/2] does anyone know why this is happening? on modified Timeless, theres something weird with z-indexes for the mw-header-nav-hack on smaller screen res but i cant figure out how to fix it LOL [02:40:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233971097989283851/image.png?ex=662f08a3&is=662db723&hm=c2214931d4e358853f839e5adc55a3a0d92a46b7927c68fe7495bf9c9f801667& [02:42:31] cool [02:44:38] Perhaps ask local wiki crats [02:44:49] Stewards can probably do that but it'd be faster and more convenient to ask local crats [02:45:06] bureaucrats can demote other bureaucrats? [02:45:20] Not by default but it's possible to change settings so that they can [02:45:25] :DoneMH: done [02:45:40] [1/2] on that wiki it is disabled [02:45:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1233972372189610025/image.png?ex=662f09d3&is=662db853&hm=ec9f23537b4dff9b25e15e46c05290dfc01e61eee0e8430c47c4aacc9f6016c8& [02:45:48] ah [02:45:48] ok [02:46:26] Standard practice is to have Stewards demote other bureaucrats; it is possible, however, to configure ManageWiki settings that allow you to demote other bureaucrats if you are able to do so [02:46:40] yeah [02:52:57] I can't figure it out why is commentstream no longer visible on the pages even though it's enabled [02:58:39] Maintenance is in roughly two hours [02:59:06] As a reminder it will be a complete downtime expected to last about half an hour [02:59:20] (affects everything (relay included)) [03:00:07] anyone else got an error 1014? [03:00:13] What does the maintenance cover? [03:01:05] not me [03:01:25] polandball wiki is down [03:01:25] All of our cloud servers are getting rebooted. I don't 100% know what is being done beyond that [03:01:32] ah [03:01:41] thats in two hours [03:02:06] same for me [03:02:10] > CNAME Cross-User Banned [03:02:59] but I though custom domains didn't have CF yet? [03:11:25] custom domains are not supposed to have cloudflare? [03:12:40] I believe we have to make a change on our end, but needs somebody with proper access [03:13:53] funny how 10 minutes later the wiki goes down [03:14:43] CF by default doesn't allow domains to CNAME to a domain on a different account [03:19:18] How did PBW get moved to cloudflare they don't use our cloudflare... [03:19:27] oh [03:19:28] the wiki couldn't handle agent's rights being taken away [03:25:33] Is it possible to remove "Agent Isai" from https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/36? [03:26:46] No, but the poll has been discounted [03:26:58] See [[Community Directors/Elections/2024/Nominations]] [03:26:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Directors/Elections/2024/Nominations [03:26:59]

[03:39:35] I'l note here that SRE is aware and looking into the polandball issue [04:46:11] 15 minutes until the maintenance begins [04:47:23] i will go to miraheze wiki when it goes to maintenance [04:47:56] i hope it makes miraheze better [04:48:17] This is security maintenance afaik [04:48:21] Nothing performance-related [04:49:47] okay [04:50:01] i have 12 more minutes to edit my radio wiki [04:50:18] saddly i have nothing to think about wikis [04:50:51] i meant radios [04:51:10] 🤦‍♂️ [04:51:13] It won't be a long maintenance, don't worry 🙂 [04:51:31] k [04:52:23] first i will delete a article and nothing else [04:55:28] many edits around this time [04:59:09] 1 more minute [05:00:09] It has begun [05:00:13] begun [05:00:18] oh noes [05:00:24] i forgot to add a article [05:02:09] when is it gonna start [05:02:17] miraheze wiki working fine [05:02:44] after i said the message it started [05:03:59] And there goes the relay right on cue! [05:20:50] Hey yep [05:21:13] On a bright side I found a new command to shut down all VMs at once... [05:22:55] It looks like this might take a little longer than initially planned. [05:27:36] Ah, looks like we do still manage to produce error pages, since cp* and one of the ns are on OVH which is unaffected [05:28:42] Yep, but only for non-US cps. US cps are on the cloud servers. Other cps are actually contabo though not OVH [05:31:55] I'm waiting on FiberState now. I did plan it with them yesterday but it seems they haven't done their quick part yet. Apologies. [05:35:49] Well, ns2 is OVH (I think, could be totally wrong though) [06:20:16] MacFan4000: ns2 is OVH yeah [06:34:48] We should be back [06:35:12] I just powered on the last of the VMs [06:35:32] yep it's working now [06:35:35] Looks good [06:35:55] [1/2] yep we are back bois [06:35:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234030318617362462/Screenshot_20240428_143534_Chrome.jpg?ex=662f3fcb&is=662dee4b&hm=b4d0ebdd2afc25d2bacc9e6dfa9bc8705b62a9b3957de9f644bd278ccacd83df& [06:36:55] if you wonder what's with my notifications it's a ad/tracker blocker [06:37:06] can confirm we are back [06:37:46] yep we are 100% back edits are coming [06:38:55] Awesome [06:39:15] i hope we don't get ddos after this [06:47:54] I can't seem to access category pages on my priv wiki [07:01:33] Ah yeah [07:02:12] ping [07:02:19] ping [07:02:24] pong [07:02:43] well at least some services are coming back lol [07:03:06] mine just displays a mediawiki internal error message now [07:03:18] no fancy 503 page anymore [07:04:16] Now I can explore my wiki but not signing in [07:09:37] takes time for VMs to fully come online [07:09:56] starting a VM does not mean its operational [07:10:05] We are back again lets see if it stays that way [07:10:13] indeed [07:10:21] So let me check [07:10:45] Well it has been an interesting night [07:11:15] So is Miraheze servers running under VMs? [07:11:38] Yes [07:11:46] Glad I was busy in real life when maintenance has happening [07:12:03] Oh yay I've successfully signed back in [07:12:52] I am tired of starting and stoping more than 50 VMs manually today so hopefully that is the last time lol [07:13:13] it's loading but it feels a bit slower than usual [07:13:38] Don't you get some stuff which can centrally manage different servers? [07:13:56] Cache needs to warm up again. [07:14:27] Proxmox can but I am mobile so I have to do one at a time using `sudo qm start ` [07:15:11] If I wasn't mobile I could use web UI [07:15:13] Oh you're on mobile [07:15:47] Yep [07:16:16] Oh yes despite most systems are responsive design managing different VMs in a list would be challenging if you use a vertical screen [07:16:32] And also since you're here, can you help me with my rejected SSLRequest? [07:16:53] They said I have DNS problem but actually they're ok [07:17:30] Maybe @reception123 can? It is 1AM for me and I have to wake up at 3AM to catch a flight. [07:17:52] Oh it doesn't matter, please take your time. [07:17:53] I can wait [07:18:08] oh thanks! [07:18:17] 😆 [07:18:43] don't know why you scheduled this so late, if you have to get up in 2 hours...just stay up [07:18:56] So I've never went abroad I hope this year I can take on a flight and move away from China [07:18:59] 🤣 [07:19:13] Oh yeah I probably will tbh [07:19:38] I didn't schedule it so late it went way later then I thought I scheduled for 11PM [07:19:41] don't know why you keep doing this to yourself [07:19:48] So the point is, what's the time for your flight [07:19:58] in 2 hours apparently [07:20:10] But you travel frequently? [07:20:10] or at least that's time to go to airport [07:20:44] 6AM is time for flight but airport is an hour away and I need to be early so I don't miss it security, etc... [07:21:11] Oh I know [07:21:32] this seems to be a regular for travel times [07:22:05] I would suggest watch a movie but then you might get too cozy and fall asleep [07:22:24] Hey yeah [07:22:35] If for me, I'll take to the airport first and then having rest [07:22:41] Also just got confirmation from FiberState maintenance is officially done. [07:22:58] Well done [07:23:46] So today's change is, briefly you've got Cloudflare as website protection? [07:24:18] no, that's not an idea to consider [07:24:39] [1/2] https://www.serverbasket.com/shop/buy-dedicated-server-in-usa/ [07:24:39] [2/2] well this is misleading advertising...claims US but located in India [07:24:51] I know I won't if I fall asleep I may miss my flight tbh [07:25:14] My flight is like 44 hours total [07:25:41] So from where to where? If you don't mind saying [07:26:01] To Perth, Australia [07:26:21] Oh [07:26:22] From Bosie, Idaho, US [07:26:45] You'll be on the same timezone to me😂 [07:26:54] same state as me lol [07:27:13] Oh I know [07:27:54] Oh hey nice [07:28:02] I will be in Australia for 5 months [07:28:14] Wow may I know for what? [07:28:23] Yes cause I'm in China [07:28:51] Australia is where I was born, so kinds like returning home. I go bsck quite often but not usually as long. [07:29:13] Oh I know [07:29:40] So you can return back home as you want, if I leave my country I won't go back😭 [07:31:21] I remain curious why dedicated servers in Europe are cheaper compared to US locations by long shot...Hetzner > OVH for price and resources [cpu, ram] [07:31:44] That wasn't the case for us at all [07:32:02] idk what custom deals you managed to score, i'm looking at public [07:32:10] They probably want to expand their presence in Europe? [07:32:29] We have services with a lot better performance, triple the resources and still half the cost in the US [07:32:50] the 2 I mentioned are based in Europe [07:32:58] But yeah we did manage to make some deals [07:33:13] well leverage does matter [07:33:34] its like low cpu core, little ram, poor ram type [not ecc or ddr5], not able to get both 2x SSD + HDD [07:33:51] But like they don't have a big userbase choosing their EU servers but with a lot customers having US ones? [07:34:18] when I look at US dedicated servers, its like over $110 for even 32 gb ram [07:34:22] But for me I'd be choosing servers in EU countries [07:35:00] As I need IP addresses from the EU which can let most websites recognize me an EU customer, despite they know I'm using DC addresses [07:35:04] problem with in EU is not all of them grant Fair Dealing. Fair Dealing is less protection vs Fair Use/DMCA [07:36:03] Oh yes they probably need to be under more friendly jurisdiction [07:37:18] its either Germany or Finland for Hetzner... with Finland being cheaper [07:37:47] Germany apparently has annoying speech laws that get abused resulting in lots of pointless reports [07:38:32] Like laws regulating on speeches? [07:41:06] its their hate speech laws, essentially its abused by folks reporting someone because they didn't like their opinion. that sort of thing [07:41:22] UK just passed similar and police are wasting their time [07:41:56] Oh make sense. Living in China I often thinking of if those hate speech can make use in revolution and civilization progress [07:42:31] Europe's seems to be copying China [07:43:12] China's legislation just targeting the groups of people that opposite the CCP [07:43:19]