[00:17:32] [1/2] @elliethepwincess https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/1234288145168863284 [00:17:33] [2/2] if that's known to be abandoned and is overrun by vandals/trolls, wouldn't that qualify for administrative removal? sounds like it would be dragging the seo and reputation of miraheze downwards [00:18:59] I don’t think we have any policies on this beyond if its not edited the inactivity policy [00:19:37] @kiju1108 steward man any thoughts or policies im forgetting? [00:19:57] steward man lol [00:20:42] Its a man! It’s a steward. It’s Kiju!!!! [00:21:15] I would have thought policy or steward's discretion counts for this [00:21:31] if not, perhaps a proposal to get this in writing [00:21:45] obvious abandoned wikis are of no value [00:22:39] [1/2] Yeah, if a wiki is too rough overall, we may have no choice but to close it, but [00:22:39] [2/2] Basically, no [00:23:24] seeing that it's almost been a year since the founder was active, i doubt it will be actively maintained [00:24:09] Hey. I'm ChocoMingo. I used to be the main bureaucrat of the Polandball Wiki back when it was on its original site. I wanted to know if anyone can reach out to Agent (as in Agent Isai) [00:24:38] Agent is pretty unreachable currently [00:24:40] Agent has left Miraheze (most likely permanently); any contact attempt with him will be futile [00:24:50] think the plan for agent is to wait a bit and decide [00:25:05] I say this because he owns the PBW Discord server and since his account is planned to be deleted (it's not deleted yet) me and the other mods of the PBW server are worried his account being deleted could impact the Discord server [00:25:32] you can't schedule an account for deletion while owning a server [00:25:41] His alt owns the PBW server [00:25:51] so main being deleted won't impact [00:25:52] think we have had this conversation earlier this week and were informed: if any have the Administrator permission, file a request with discord to perform a server ownership [00:27:21] @pixldev@kiju1108@elliethepwincess probably worth a formal proposal for completely abandoned or overrun wikis to be removed at steward discretion on basis of Miraheze platform health [00:28:08] Only one user has that role, I'll try and see if I can reach out to him [00:28:14] ok [00:28:40] if its agent's alt, I guess wait for him to return. he's burned out it seems [00:28:55] if all else fails, make a new server and invite everyone [00:29:04] It's not Agent's alt. It's his account that'll be deleted soon and someone else [00:29:09] ok [00:29:18] That someone else being a veteran moderator who's been a part of the PBW for a long time [00:29:34] Agents alt has ownership not the account pending deletion [00:29:56] I know. The account pending deletion has administrator perms tho [00:30:08] Oh [00:30:11] and so does another mod, which I'm trying to contact [00:30:17] Okay [00:39:01] I also recommend not trying. He left due to a lot of overwork and pressure, to try and contact him now will not help [00:39:27] Not a bad idea [00:40:04] also ca why do you have a herald rule for when conditions are met: always, send an email to you [00:41:34] So I don't have to be a subscriber but still get notified on all tasks. [00:44:06] Cos…. How many emails are in your inbox on a regular basis [00:44:38] So the PBW Server will forever be left in limbo? [00:44:45] Because he transferred ownership to an alt of his [00:45:06] And I'm trying to get someone to transfer ownership from that alt to him to then transfer ownership to me or another moderator [00:45:16] CA is still in contact with Agent so he May transfer it still but no guarantee. [00:45:23] Pardon? [00:45:40] Ownership of the Discord server, not the wiki [00:45:45] I know [00:45:53] it’s staying with shining until stuff gets figured out [00:45:56] oh [00:45:57] nvm [00:45:59] disregard [00:46:46] I have 500,000 or so, about 30,000 from Phab/Phorge from the past 5 years [00:47:06] ☠️ [00:47:09] As I recall, large community server can get ownership by asking Discord [00:47:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234305004559536168/image.gif?ex=66303f9d&is=662eee1d&hm=4c1eecee123b78a0977886d7d460f2ad99a374eb160aae3d51f5aba8f14114ba& [00:47:44] I FLAME MY MOM FOR HAVING ALMOST 50,000 WHAT THE HELL [00:47:54] Yikes, that's way more than I ever had (at least 10,000 from various spam/legitimate emails to a now-deleted address) [00:48:08] WHY [00:48:25] isn't this really a discord issue? yeah, there's a relation, but we can't fix that here since we don't operate discord. [00:48:28] whu [00:48:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234305285259005952/image.png?ex=66303fe0&is=662eee60&hm=f10345408a976f8bd7608c51e647abad6564ead8319af16ac37745396e7e49df& [00:48:36] i have zero.. [00:48:49] I have an email I use for all high traffic stuff, at one point I got more than 1,000 per day from WMF phab alone also. [00:49:06] Because of bad rule [00:49:12] old email but i have like 1.7 mil unread (all spam) [00:49:23] No [00:49:32] No fucking way [00:49:39] there’s actually no way [00:49:41] Cal [00:49:47] im calling cap [00:49:51] it’s been sitting around for like 6 years [00:49:54] this cant be real [00:50:57] then what’s the point of getting emails from phab if everything gets drowned instantly [00:51:31] i only use the outlook website so ill have to figure out how to show total notis [00:55:03] I have filters [00:56:44] how- [00:56:45] I [00:56:56] 😭 [00:57:05] Gmail can filter things to labels which I set up. [00:57:12] you scare me man [00:57:16] legit [00:57:35] back to camping phorges homepage for something to happen [00:59:19] Or for a admib to resolve my personal project task so I can mark my stuff [00:59:24] but not like its a priority [00:59:52] Which task? [00:59:56] uh [01:00:02] its inder the phorge project [01:00:12] I can do now I have nothing better on this 15.5 hour flight lol [01:00:40] here https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12078 [01:01:10] wait [01:01:18] you have signal on a flight? [01:04:04] wifi [01:04:08] also https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12078#241946 [01:04:18] ah [01:04:28] Thanks Cosmic! [01:05:09] No problem! [01:06:37] PBW admin here. Would anybody know how to brtueforce onto a (name).miraheze.org page instead of a provided domain? [01:06:55] mostly cause our wiki’s domain either expired or is cancelled [01:07:04] or something [01:07:14] agent isai owned it so i don’t have a clue whats going on [01:07:24] you can go to the subdomain unless it's forcefully redirected to the custom domain [01:07:28] Its not, it just is pointed wrong which we should be able to fix but we can remove it if you want? [01:07:38] that is what is happening [01:07:48] It is force redirected yeah [01:07:57] oh then disregard what i said [01:12:15] it would be good to probably remove atleast the brute-force redirect, if you can? We can reinstate the domain later, right? I don’t want there to be problems once we get the link actually working [01:15:29] also @CosmicAlpha can I get a second opinion on https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11913 since thinking back I think's different enough from the task it was merged into to be worth reopening(restricting the deletion of crats and warning crats against managewiki-* rights) [01:16:44] (does it ping discord side when the username has caps in it? or does only cosmicalpha and not CosmicAlpha) [01:17:54] Only lowercase [01:18:23] got it [01:19:20] im having a mini field day customizing phorge(ie dashboard heard rule etc) [01:19:42] where can i find the list https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_blocks [01:20:01] i wanna see a list of people who are globally blocked [01:20:02] huh. the dashboard I made is dashboard 123. that's comical [01:20:20] > All global blocks are logged here on Miraheze Meta at [[Special:Log/gblblock]]. [01:20:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/gblblock [01:20:29] [[Special:Log/gblblock]] [01:20:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/gblblock [01:20:29]

[01:20:30] thanks [01:20:52] I'd say go for it with a proposal, no reason for anyone to honestly object. all these types of wikis do when overrun is damage Miraheze in long term. [01:21:02] aYeah [01:22:19] Well this is interesting [01:22:53] Hey @cosmicalpha I was looking on the dashboard panels and found this https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/W190 [01:23:02] possibly old spam? [01:23:20] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/search/query/3_XlEu29.hFJ/#R a lot of it [01:23:53] looks like trash to take out [01:23:56] I've been unable to find any info on it, how often are special pages like `Special:WantedCategories` refreshed? [01:25:26] [1/2] why is agentisai blocked 30 times [01:25:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234314570483499059/image.png?ex=66304886&is=662ef706&hm=1b1cea677284af1e9c53644242b5a6ffda72ebd94028270c013302b9a51b8c84& [01:26:05] He's not blocked [01:26:06] I don't know; maybe it was because he proposed renaming our beloved Miraheze [01:26:16] He's vanished [01:26:28] Tali [01:26:56] got blocked 40 times for wanting Orain lol [01:27:04] reread the logs, the gdpr user is the issuing user [01:27:05] I know [01:27:30] oh [01:27:35] normally it reads: performing_user blocked/globally_blocked target_user [01:27:49] now the logs are a mess [01:41:41] Ah, panels are on my todo list for cleanup, basically have to be manually deleted by script [01:43:46] Good to know [01:43:59] Why is so much Phorge spam car related [01:45:42] We all want to know what top factors affect our car's resale value [01:46:12] wow we are 3 boosts short of lvl 2 now? (and thus banner and roleicons) dang [01:47:08] Would definitely boost if I could [01:47:47] And my boosts are needed elsewhere [01:48:12] Can we divest some of the WTF's funds to boosts. [01:48:25] haha :ManyHappyLaughs: [01:48:37] Or instead of buying boosts we give volunteers nitro and have them boost [01:52:24] "Role icons serve the purpose of assisting those who are illiterate determine the most important role volunteers present in our Discord server hold in relation to that server; therefore, we, as representatives of the WikiTide Foundation, ask that the Foundation be allowed to use a portion of its income for the purpose of maintaining visibility of such icons." [01:53:08] Amen [01:53:25] or go all the way up to L3 for that sweet sweet vanity URL [02:00:00] have we ever had level 3 before [02:00:21] We did briefly IIRC [02:00:23] Once [02:00:41] I think I remember that but it was a long time ago [02:00:55] Like 2 months ago [02:01:13] ah [02:01:16] We went from level 3 to level 1 in like a couple weeks also. [02:01:18] I think so yes. [02:01:35] Was that shortly after the great merge? [02:01:39] Could explain it. [02:02:25] It was when I was boosting x6 [02:02:32] a [02:02:35] hold up [02:02:42] 6..? [02:02:46] Yes [02:03:10] I've said it before a lot and I'll say it again [02:03:13] You scare me [02:03:20] isn't that like $20 a month lol [02:03:51] For some reason, the OreDict permissions aren't blacklisted, but I'm unable to assign them to any usergroups. [02:04:19] Something like that [02:04:31] +nitro it was to much to maintain tbh [02:04:47] u n d e r s t a n d a b l e [02:05:15] also from what I was saying before: CA do you think [[phorge:T11913]] is different enough from what it was merged with to be reopened? [02:05:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge:T11913 [02:05:30] [[phorge:T11913]] [02:05:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge:T11913 [02:05:36]

[02:05:39] [1/4] we must have server icons [02:05:39] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234324689065607218/mirahezecss.png?ex=663051f2&is=662f0072&hm=ce91e6dfb4f196b0b169fdc6db4642ac5eb1881c5be2ced5f79b6a8203c69af8& [02:05:39] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234324689376120932/mirahezemediawiki.png?ex=663051f2&is=662f0072&hm=3a508a2093405958e47cb65f0073f60e0c92521b124205218f6e0f2acfdc9c65& [02:05:40] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234324689682436146/mirahezenitroboosters.png?ex=663051f2&is=662f0072&hm=9b64c6fd3eb4a681f6519ece34f173c5feae66ba060abf4ba6d2ca41ff89c3bd& [02:05:51] dang wikibot dont care about irc [02:06:02] irc discrimination :( [02:06:04] @idrinklisterine thats actually not the booster icon [02:06:17] #IRCLivesMatter [02:06:17] unless someone switched it [02:06:22] ikr [02:06:29] the nitro booster role had no icon [02:06:35] it used to tho [02:06:39] yeah [02:06:40] how else am I meant to chat with yall when my phone Icon [02:06:50] It had an icon with all the rest I thin [02:06:53] I made it lol [02:06:59] [1/2] ? [02:06:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234325023951552532/orainnitro.png?ex=66305242&is=662f00c2&hm=852b5cb085cc667bc2b42bafc8928209bb9adc8c583370c1e45c283590f94ef8& [02:07:16] this was the icon i made during Orain [02:07:19] It was the pink heze but with a crystal texture masked over it [02:07:36] yeah I remember the icon [02:07:38] hello from IRC [02:07:38] that was impossible to notice at scale but so was the texture on the bot icon [02:07:50] tali64: hello [02:08:08] i screenshotted it and recolored miraheze logo so i couldn't see [02:08:44] [1/2] oh these [02:08:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234325469017407488/dqaK6KU.png?ex=663052ac&is=662f012c&hm=bdda56bae39b44490d83895f67602f0468b0d95f8c6490e1e371f59ed4b2332f& [02:08:48] tali64 smh imagine not having a @miraheze/ cloak couldn't be me [02:08:54] yeah thats the one [02:09:09] Haven't gotten around to requesting one [02:09:39] [1/2] i forgot about this icon [02:09:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234325696537427999/miraheze_board-2.png?ex=663052e2&is=662f0162&hm=56b6626bd30cbe1ed14f60ab2deb05adb5602b78878cd716b9338cd943ef87f1& [02:10:24] hi [02:10:31] Actually your exact username is Tali64³ right? I wonder if cloaks can have special characters [02:10:36] Yeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllooo [02:10:48] On MH/inspired wikifarms it is [02:10:55] Since our policy is for cloaks to exactly match on wiki [02:11:06] ie @miraheze/PixDeVl [02:14:06] @idrinklisterine personally I liked Labster's board icon more [02:14:15] where ever it went [02:14:47] this is the exact same tho (i think) [02:14:50] agent gave me it [02:15:25] It's part of it [02:18:24] can i see it [02:18:43] If I can find it tomorrow sure [02:19:07] You can try searching labster board or smt in msgs sent by me [02:21:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234328752822026321/image.png?ex=663055bb&is=662f043b&hm=f021bad0681fb28773e90ea28a7010d0cf2a3c7501ce37d894874b809636f330& [02:24:00] yea that [02:24:13] could not find [02:27:00] could you try to find it? if it doesnt inconvenience you [02:27:20] [1/2] also found this [02:27:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1234330149705617458/KwrPB3T.png?ex=66305708&is=662f0588&hm=9e9bb57233e9dde5744b031a093e31a721b80609d06a47e291cf36c40f188533& [02:27:54]