[01:41:25] Is there a template that can be used to help stylize a wiki? A friend of mine is struggling with the css to style it. [02:46:01] This is an, uh, interesting strat for inactivity https://buffalonas.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=500&days=180&enhanced=1&urlversion=2 [02:46:40] They also have a registered IRC channel at #miraheze-buffalonas, hm [02:47:08] every day at the exact same time lol [02:48:15] That's dedication /sar [02:48:32] wait [02:48:52] oh theres a user nicked s.ar on IRC lol [02:49:54] they've had that keepalive page edited every day at the exact same time for over 2 years [02:50:01] Wow [02:50:38] I'm wondering if the inactivity policy should be manually applied tbh [02:51:05] it kinda seems like they're using a bot to automatically edit the page [02:52:17] Oh def it just auto increment the date to stave off auto lock [02:53:48] Anyone know how big the time frame for Special:Analytics is? Still getting a few hundred views. No reason to manually close really. I would want to probably remove the registered channel on IRC [02:55:39] CC CosmicAlpha (I think that should ping on discord now?) as a Group Contact. Should we just drop #miraheze-buffalonas considering it's wiki activity? [03:07:05] it didn't lol [03:07:17] @cosmicalpha [03:07:31] :pensive: [03:07:52] back to wiki creating at 11 pm [03:27:24] I will drop it if the contact for the group isn't active but last I checked they were. [03:27:30] I mean the wiki [03:38:29] @cosmicalpha the channel claims to be relayed to their discord, we could ask there saying hey we gonna drop this if you want to keep it tell us in #miraheze-ops [03:38:51] also i made my first edit in a while on the wiki that got me onto miraheze lets go chat https://nyctocosm.miraheze.org/wiki/Quick_Start_Guide?diff=prev&oldid=1101 [03:39:23] I need to get back to working and cleaning this. I need to do a lot of things.. [04:09:16] We host the relay so it is indeed relayed. [04:22:52] lmao wtf [05:16:24] you can take and modify CSS snippets used by other wikis, a template by itself cannot affect the look of the wiki, only whatever is in content are of the page [05:19:49] And any wiki works fine I assume right as long as it uses MediaWiki? [05:25:34] I've been making a wiki myself on Wiki.gg and the template (as in preformatted CSS) they provided has made stylizing my wiki easy, and I thought about if I could just copy some of that over to their wiki [05:45:06] there might be differences between skins but overall yeah, should work [08:20:25] [1/2] created global-group mark script [08:20:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1240579600220950568/image.png?ex=66471349&is=6645c1c9&hm=f6195cf74b5a0ba69f66711a6d8551a944680eeb8cef6bff76e10a3f1cc3482f& [09:31:59] You can ask for help here. [09:38:31] [1/2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/CSS [09:38:32] [2/2] You can use this website to find solutions on how to style your wiki [10:29:05] So when are we gonna move the menerige of hats from Meta:RfP? IIRC the consensus was to move it to a subpage of AN or smt right? [12:12:47] reinstated to wiki creator! [12:16:46] nice [12:17:17] so I'm going to have a chat in the meta admins channel because I was just trying to make a draft for what a subpage would look like and it makes my head hurt for various reasons [12:43:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1240645773570605116/image.png?ex=664750ea&is=6645ff6a&hm=397eb54d54801767bfdf0279ef4bf5ced13d88e37a1e358800af4db5033d4f16& [12:43:32] I asked to install Semantic Wiki some days ago, but now it produced an error [12:44:41] Sorry I mean Semantic MediaWiki [12:46:51] I just checked with the Stewards Requests page and NotAracham updated me with a link to track records, so I'll check the link for any information [12:46:57] Sorry for my excuse [12:48:09] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/786615849921675294/1240639069403222087 [12:53:46] a member of @MediaWiki Specialists (iirc) needs to run a script which will update smw and result in the related wikis working correctly from there [12:53:57] this is why I've never touched it unless I had someone sre on hand to run the script then and there tbh [12:54:19] Thanks, so I'll wait until this is finished [12:54:39] link please to the wiki [12:54:56] Need help for interwiki link to an article on Getter Robo Wiki that was hosted on Fandom, please? [12:55:53] liao.miraheze.org [12:56:46] [1/2] liao.miraheze.org [12:56:47] [2/2] Task: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12138 [12:57:16] But I don't mean to take this in a rush, please take your time [12:57:31] [1/26] ``` [12:57:32] [2/26] Importing from smw.groups.json ... [12:57:32] [3/26] ... smw/schema:Group:Schema properties ... [FAILED] [12:57:32] [4/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:33] [5/26] ... smw/schema:Group:Predefined properties ... [FAILED] [12:57:33] [6/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:33] [7/26] ... done. [12:57:33] [8/26] Importing from smw.vocab.json ... [12:57:34] [9/26] ... MediaWiki:Smw import schema ... [FAILED] [12:57:34] [10/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:35] [11/26] ... MediaWiki:Smw import skos ... [FAILED] [12:57:35] [12/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:36] [13/26] ... MediaWiki:Smw import foaf ... [FAILED] [12:57:36] [14/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:37] [15/26] ... MediaWiki:Smw import owl ... [FAILED] [12:57:37] [16/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:38] [17/26] ... Property:Foaf:knows ... [FAILED] [12:57:38] [18/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:39] [19/26] ... Property:Foaf:name ... [FAILED] [12:57:39] [20/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:40] [21/26] ... Property:Foaf:homepage ... [FAILED] [12:57:40] [22/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:41] [23/26] ... Property:Owl:differentFrom ... [FAILED] [12:57:41] [24/26] └ moderation-edit-queued [12:57:42] [25/26] ... done. [12:57:42] [26/26] ``` [12:57:43] crikey [12:58:39] Are these missing files? Or still need some works for the files to work [13:00:17] The page automatically refeshed and now seems to be ok [13:00:19] I mean the wiki [13:00:28] it did just work for me but then stopped working heh [13:00:42] Yes the same here [13:01:05] oh I know why I think [13:01:45] Semantic MediaWiki is really helpful for knowledge base wikis so it's really necessary to have [13:02:57] hmmm idk why it keeps failing [13:03:12] idk why miraheze has to be so complicated with stuff like running a simple script its annoying as [13:03:40] Like because of their complex design hierarchy 🤣 [13:04:18] So many MediaWiki attributes were modified to be suitable for the architecture, this is what I guess [13:04:50] fixed 🫰🏼 [13:05:04] Thank you very much, let me see [13:05:47] there are several more on the SR which are probably in the same condition if it has to be done per-wiki [13:05:55] Yes a complete page seems to be loaded [13:05:56] And the Semantic MediaWiki footer logo appeared [13:06:44] I've just done all of those that were on the phab task [13:07:25] May I know if you've made some adjustments for it to work? [13:07:43] I didn't, I just had to push the smw files to all the servers [13:08:00] I know [13:08:27] In my understanding it's not a single server may serve a particular wiki [13:08:32] correct [13:08:38] excellent [13:08:57] are there more that need doing? [13:09:07] So to have my wiki covered all servers need to be updated. Correct? [13:09:19] yup [13:09:29] I believe the phab task got all of them [13:09:36] dunno if there's anything to be done about that one wiki that isn't undeleting properly [13:09:37] I know, thanks. But won't doing this affect other wikis? [13:09:51] apparently it shows something in once every 20 refreshes but refuses to actually behave [13:10:00] nothing consequential [13:10:10] idk about that I can have a look now though? [13:10:13] Not affected other wikis because Miraheze is great [13:10:20] no [13:10:25] [13:10:25] Ohh okay [13:10:46] So the files can only target my wiki? [13:10:53] It's really great [13:11:42] its marked as closed in ManageWiki, should it be? [13:12:04] granted closed wouldn't give this behaviour but [13:12:27] I actually hit closed as a recommendation to try and give the cache a kick [13:12:29] Hey if you can tell me does it only target on my wiki? I really wanted to know [13:12:36] its also marked as deleeted in managewiki [13:12:47] the change only has impact on your wiki, nothing applies to the rest of the farm [13:13:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1240653324072652820/image.png?ex=664757f2&is=66460672&hm=e4104ddd549b0541354718563d90f20e25fc0539fe00b08e36cea49e0b906297& [13:13:31] I just undeleted it yeah [13:13:40] Thank you for letting me know, I hope this won't affect any other part of the service [13:13:42] parts* [13:13:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1240653434856935444/image.png?ex=6647580d&is=6646068d&hm=e54c28b265406ef1f4fcaf51de6c6b0780464f0f6778797cd294a22b0bad6199& [13:13:51] well that's weird because I undeleted it multiple times in fact [13:14:07] it does not [13:14:16] Nice [13:14:39] hmm its still failing to undelete though how peculiar [13:14:56] welcome to my day wrangling with it :p [13:15:27] really don't get how it re-deleted though, I could swear I undeleted, redeleted, and undeleted again [13:15:39] for some reason the cache doesn't exist for that wiki [13:16:00] really loving the cache lately [14:16:44] <_______________________________d> is there any way to get the ratepage extension to work? [14:16:50] <_______________________________d> it stopped working for me a while ago [14:17:39] <_______________________________d> it works on files, weirdly enough [14:19:32] one of those more obscure extensions that don't get a lot of eyes, you're likely the trailblazer on that one [14:20:23] depending how much you've tested it could be worth a [[phorge]] task, but response to it may prove slow [14:20:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge [14:20:24] [14:21:23] now that I think of it, that extension was behaving a bit funny on @originalauthority's telepedia on a wiki too but I did not test it extensively before I shrugged and removed it from the given wiki [14:21:54] perhaps a config problem (namespaces?), that's where I'd look into it first if it needs to be specially enabled [14:23:10] since I smacked OA a ping anyway, cc to note that I think another wiki also got hit with not undeleting properly; . Seems a bit endemic at this point [14:26:54] @tali64, meta admins are having a little improv vote in a channel at the moment to finalize the rfp question; the decision from there may then override the changes made. I erred to not subpage it because I realized it was getting dumb to have a whole suite of pages for rfp this, rfp that, oh not that kind of rfp these are the elected ones and the assigned ones... [14:27:21] otherwise would have made progress on that this morning as I did have a draft, but I seriously began to question it when I saw it just complicated things and did nothing to help them [15:18:11] Now that I think about it, RfS could be merged into RfGP since the former doesn't see a lot of requests (and Steward is a global permission) unless there's a good reason not to do so; that could help cut down on RfP clutter [15:22:36] I would not do it without authorization [15:22:53] as for the idea I think it has some merits but should be mulled over/discussed on site a bit [15:23:41] I suppose the seeming 'prestiege' of the steward capacity, it being a unique role & event is what lead to its initial split off, but I have no committment to that argument [15:25:00] How can I remove the CC BY-SA footer logo? I need my own licensing model for my wiki. [15:25:19] Thanks [15:26:31] if it's not available in the current licenses which can be found in the settings portion of managewiki, it's an sre matter [15:36:14] My licensing model is relatively simple -- any people can freely use any contents for any proposes provided if such use is ethical and comes to the interest of the modern society [15:36:56] So I need to make a custom licensing option since I can't find one that this licensing model falls under [15:41:41] [1/6] I’m trying to use the css extension to change the background of an article with a url image. I can change the background to a color but when I try to change it to an image it breaks and loads the default. [15:41:41] [2/6] {{#css: [15:41:42] [3/6] body { [15:41:42] [4/6] background: url(image link) !important; [15:41:42] [5/6] } [15:41:43] [6/6] }} [15:47:16] Don’t see why this wouldn’t work [15:54:43] [1/3] the css extension straight up breaks with certain things, url() is one, but if you define a variable in the common.css like [15:54:44] [2/3] ```--background1: url(image link);``` [15:54:44] [3/3] and then use that variable in the css parser it works i think [15:57:42] How do I use a variable in the css [15:58:08] After defining it I mean [15:59:31] background: var(--background1); [16:00:17] [1/6] defining a variable in the css needs to be like [16:00:17] [2/6] ``` [16:00:18] [3/6] :root { [16:00:18] [4/6] --background1: url(image link); [16:00:18] [5/6] }``` [16:00:19] [6/6] (in case u didnt do it like that) [16:00:27] Alright thanks [16:00:45] I haven’t used variables in css before [16:01:38] very handy for things like accent colors used in different places and image urls so u dont have to copy and paste it every time 👍 [16:01:59] Neat [16:12:39] My background is now just white on the page preview [16:13:13] Oh I made a typo nvm [17:00:36] does anyone know how to get AWB to report to me if a page has any categories? ive tried regex in find/replace and etc and i cant seem to make sense of it [17:00:46] usecase: im trying to strip categories from a lot of pages [17:04:43] Anyone know where maintenance scripts should be handled and modified? [17:08:00] SRE runs them, gotta make a phorge task [17:08:39] Ah, should I ask for a script to be installed? [17:09:21] by maintenance script I understand something deep related to database [17:09:53] idk about installation of scripts, but all deep tech stuff is done by SRE [17:10:14] if we talk about JS scipts - those you can add by yourself on Miraheze [17:10:22] w/o moderation like on fandom [17:26:22] js scripts, bots can be fully independent, anything that touches server side or requires deeper than just api requires sre however [18:03:40] What script? [18:20:16] There’s a meta admin channel? [18:47:49] there is [18:49:45] In this server or the volunteer one? [18:50:04] Volunteer [18:52:14] Yeah I know, since CVT shared it [19:01:53] <_______________________________d, replying to raidarr> It stopped working around 2 years ago [19:07:57] Maybe this one: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:UpdateSpecialPages.php [19:11:00] It's ran automatically every so often [20:12:47] <.labster, replying to li.ao> Can you link to the license text please? I want to make sure people have permission to do things like edit. Unless there is only one editor? [20:18:21] @cyaniwynd im sorry for all my drama stuff and vandalism on NQP, i just want a fake media reception wiki to contribute to, can i be unblocked on Imagination Land Wiki please? I promise not to be rude and I promise to contribute positively. [20:25:38] Not the place [20:26:09] There is no ethical provision in Creative commons. I am rather certain, you can't have a provision that encompasses ethics [20:27:04] Ethics tend to be subjective. [20:27:06] Ethics are rather fluid. Ethics is in the eye of the beholder [20:27:56] Every three days is fine, but I don't know if we can make it faster. [20:28:15] I know it's not the first time I've mentioned it [20:28:29] I'm sorry about that [20:30:12] Please don't put ethical in a legal text [20:30:44] With a justification it could be considered [20:30:54] Please think of the lawyers they'll stroke out [20:31:23] About what? [20:31:44] Why you need it faster [20:32:37] It's not a question of need, it's a question of ergonomics. It's not necessary, it's appreciable. [20:32:51] ideally all wikis would wish for faster really [20:33:02] but yeah [20:33:06] Everyone wants everything faster [20:33:18] But there's only so many resources [20:33:32] how mira even run w/o miser mode? [20:33:37] before [20:33:42] What benefit would be gained and what can't be done now [20:33:52] I know, I was asking if it was possible to install a script myself, basically [20:34:08] If yes, great, if no, it's okay [20:34:14] You can't manage maintenance scripted no. [20:34:38] They are part of MediaWiki, no need to install them anywhere. [20:34:51] Keep in mind that there's no criticism, just a question [20:35:18] Thank you for your reply. [20:35:38] I'm glad when users give feedback [20:35:46] But sometimes we need to know the why [20:36:04] users often solutionise [20:36:22] Sometimes if we know the why, we can suggest better ways or it can help us understand what to invest in [20:38:12] Oh, I could give feedback, but not today [20:38:42] Thanks for suggesting it, it's great to see such pleasant, attentive people [21:41:16] Small question, on the mediawiki server they switched the authentification bot to a New one, will it happen here ? [21:42:10] there's no reason to switch it here so no [21:42:57] The authentification still worked on Mira account ? [21:43:10] Oh okay thought it was also affected [21:43:22] Nvm [22:45:28] hey there. I had submitted a request for a new wiki on Sunday and am waiting for a review. Can we request for updates here? Or do we just need to sit tight until someone gets to it? [22:46:33] You can see if any comments were left on the request's page, but we have a limited team so may take a bit. I think we've already gotten to Sunday tho [22:48:10] yep, there was a comment requesting for more info. The initial response to the request only took an hour or two after I submitted it. I replied pretty quickly, but it's now taking a minute to get some feedback. Totally understand - I can wait it out then. Appreciate the reply. [22:48:15] @brandon.wm since it was your request wanna check out https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/44353#mw-section-comments ? [22:49:46] for future ref: my on hold reqs can be handled by anyone [22:50:03] no need to ask at all [22:50:09] but I’ll handle this one [22:58:20] should be done [22:59:14] thank you very much! [23:22:46] Can you help me add it to my wiki [23:25:00] [1/2] Just copy these three files over: [23:25:01] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Age_in_years,_months_and_days [23:25:21] it has two dependencies, and the two files are linked there [23:29:50] im still confused on how to do it 😭 [23:32:57] Just open the template page, copy the complete contents, and paste it on the same page on your wiki, and save it 🙂