[00:15:12] @suzuneu wanted to clarify your comment at `Requests_for_Comment/Global_Captcha_Exempt` were you intending to respond to me because you did not indent as such [00:33:03] You could always submit a PR to add translation support [00:33:19] Idk if it'd get merged or not though [00:33:59] no reason why not if we had people willing [00:34:27] I think non-English reports would be fine, global functionaries would have to translate the reported material if it's not in English, it's not uncommon to encounter people who speak little to no English and are trying to ask for help [00:34:39] Just use DeepL for non-English reports [00:35:37] not ideal but better then seeming off putting to someone wanting to report a Underage vio or TOSVIO who just dont speak enwish [00:36:06] Yeah [00:36:32] If Ru xlation needed for TSP strings, write a DM or ping me but otherwise I can't be bothered to go on gh [00:48:56] Since you are on and translations are the topic, can you put `` in first line of [[Global Conduct Policy]]? [00:48:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_Conduct_Policy [00:48:57]

[00:49:37] Nope, not a Meta Sysop 😄 [00:49:39] Sorry [00:51:36] Thought you were, I gues you are a AWOT [00:51:47] AWOT? [00:52:25] [1/3] Would anybody have any guidance on how to make a three-way option for a template? I’m making a drawing difficulty rater-thing and I’m pretty sure my current way is not going to work well. [00:52:25] [2/3] Picture is my current work for the template. [00:52:25] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1244815507375521893/image.png?ex=66567c48&is=66552ac8&hm=300bd6ea64b90365792dda327255d513a08dd9d0362c5900bcf40cf9119d7992& [00:52:51] if's within if's or [00:52:56] [[WP:AWOT]] [00:52:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:AWOT [00:52:56]

[00:53:16] Will try, thank you! [00:54:44] heh, funny term, thanks Nov :) [01:03:41] [1/3] gotta troubleshoot it now [01:03:41] [2/3] Tried using [[mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##switch]] but the code just seems to not work [01:03:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##switch [01:03:42] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1244818344943685684/image.png?ex=66567eed&is=66552d6d&hm=088b957891b887ba11ec4c924039885988696bea1ccc290894595514cee08740& [01:03:42]

[01:05:28] oh god let me try the {{{1}}} in there [01:05:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [01:05:53] nvm it works now [01:06:00] coolio [01:19:39] rare to see someone call me by the last three letters, thats lit. [01:21:14] lol [01:21:29] im a rarity what can I say [01:21:50] I spent memorial day making a draft on simple english wikipedia [01:23:18] usually people call me fel, some say nov, some use fov, I seen felon used a few time too. [01:24:37] lmao [01:24:44] you don't seem like a felon LMAO [01:52:55] [1/2] looking at the comments for here, clicking edits causes comment 1 to vanish [01:52:55] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Global_groups_reform#Proposal_9:_Rename_Global_Sysop_to_Global_Administrator [01:57:00] since a lot of policy and rfc's at meta wiki grow super long, perhaps it would be useful to add this from the independent fallout wiki? https://techlibrary.amazingwikis.org/wiki/MediaWiki:ScrollUpButton.js [02:13:50] [1/2] tbf I don't reject the concept of being a MS I just haven't had cause to go for the hat since I already help on discord tech and sometimes wiki creation. I wouldn't oppose the idea and may accept a nomination if a good reason was given for it, but at least at this very moment I don't see a need to run for it. Who knows may change at some point. But thanks for the [02:13:50] [2/2] term and compliment ^^ [02:15:04] aye i'm just gonna throw this out here, i have very little experience with creating a wiki. are there any video resources i could look at to get started? maybe specific hubs i could look at for advice or tutorials? nothing specific to ask unfortunately [02:15:21] me and my entire team are fresh [02:15:23] Videos not that i know of. Text plenty [02:15:29] aye i'm fine with that [02:15:31] What do you want to learn about? [02:15:33] Formatting? [02:15:41] The software? Structure and writing? [02:15:42] right now i wanna get the main page looking nice and neat [02:15:54] just clean up the existing theme and make it less... noisy [02:15:56] why did you chose the option I suck at [02:16:00] i am so sorry LOL [02:16:10] CSS and styling is my bane [02:16:32] one thing you can do is pick a skin from [[Special:ManageWiki/extensions]] [02:16:32] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions [02:16:34]

[02:16:35] well is there anything in particular you could teach me? i'll learn anything for the time being, i'm just trying to get a grasp on what i need to do [02:16:48] i don't really know the aspects that go into it [02:16:56] does are the ones enabled then you can pick a default [02:16:58] i think i'm just confused because i don't know wha tto look into [02:17:04] aye i saw that [02:17:33] I'd love to, but it's kinda really late for me unfortunately :( I'd be absolutely delighted to help all i can tomorrow [02:17:38] Sorry [02:17:42] no problem [02:17:51] i'd like to reach out to you later if you're free [02:17:54] what time is it for you? [02:17:56] Oh sure! [02:17:57] Uh [02:18:01] 10:17 PM lmao [02:18:09] alright! i see [02:18:22] hm [02:18:37] I'll be back on discord prob [02:18:46] (adjusted for timezone) [02:18:47] alright [02:18:57] feel free to ping me with questions and I'll try and answer [02:19:03] can i dm you? just to have you on my list so i don't forget? [02:19:07] sure [02:19:24] our awesome guys here may also have things to suggest [02:19:30] just look at wikis u like and yoink their main page design 👍 and get familiar with css flexbox and position [02:20:01] Remember guys, it's not copyright infringment if you link back to the source as per CC-BY-SA [02:20:24] may be in sub pages thou [02:20:44] alrighty sent [02:21:03] you know, that's a lot of words [02:21:09] its not copyright infringement if ur taking inspo from a big enough number of wikis [02:21:25] lol [02:21:29] aight 💤 night yall [02:21:45] nini! sleep well [02:22:23] I do see you as a very good candidate for meta. [02:22:23] look at wikis u use and their main page design and figure out what parts you like about it and why [02:23:33] aha... [02:23:42] i have to figure out what all of these permissions mean first [02:23:52] embed test rq [02:23:58] https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-anime-eating-bored-blank-stare-gif-10437311273502751800 [02:24:01] amazing [02:40:04] [1/2] why does this output an error despite it being correct? [02:40:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1244842598884053002/image.png?ex=66569583&is=66554403&hm=2ec107dde88aef17ce93b242b671e4e2d6a0c18f55b757ef31d80e08b98101ed& [03:07:56] my 2. comment (about global rollbackers) is not for your reply (just adding new comment) [03:10:19] ok [03:35:05] Does anyone know how to notify the relevant people that rosettacode.org has effectively been unavailable because of a security configuration issue, for many hours? [03:51:38] uh....why would we know? [03:56:57] Rosetta Code is an MH-hosted wiki [03:57:30] Ah, I do apologize, that's my mistake [03:57:47] @Infrastructure Specialists to assist [04:00:00] I don't have access to look right now. MacFan4000 may be able to also though. Cert needs renewed. [04:11:13] I’ve now done the renewal, should be deployed in ~20-30 minutes [04:12:11] Thanks MacFan4000 [04:14:24] Damn, I'm late. I'd like to learn how to stylize the picture's thumbnails, backgrounds of the wiki and change the "Powered by Miraheze" and "license" by personalized ones... >.< [04:29:24] can someone please help me figure out how to use the character infobox template 😭 i keep getting a template loop and i genuinely dont know what im doing wrong [04:39:15] did you put template on template's own page? that's what template loop means [04:39:55] if you want to add an example into that page you need to put it inside `.../noinclude` tags [04:41:21] i tried but im obviously doing something wrong because it keeps looping [04:42:46] better to drop a link [04:45:35] [1/2] im about to pass out ill come back in the morning and ask for help [04:45:35] [2/2] i might just be braindead because im tired lol [05:07:45] @MacFan4000 - All good at rosettacode.org, thanks. There doesn't seem to be a well-publicized protocol for notifying the maintainers (of RC? MH?) of major outages such as this. This might have contributed to the unusually long outage (>24h). Could that be rectified? [05:22:45] Good night everyone. Rest well. See you tomorrow. [05:25:59] Typically, bugs are reported through [Phorge](https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org) [05:47:16] we have monitoring of SSL certificate expiration, when a certificate is ~15 days from expiring Icinga creates an alert and drops a message at #miraheze-tech-ops on IRC, when the certificate is ~7 days away it creates another [06:39:13] If we're completely down for more than a few minutes, feel free to join here too [07:28:14] working on the custom dark mode for timeless. I've applied the "cancel out dark mode shittery" code in the timeless css and seems to be working atm, but I don't know what values to adjust to make the bg black and text white on their own. I think I need to add something with .client-darkmode at the front but have no idea what to input and where [08:50:41] Why does certificate for my website only have about 3 months of validity [08:51:34] [1/2] is there a way to stop the quality of an image becoming absolute shite when manually resized [08:51:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1244936089722949683/image.png?ex=6656ec95&is=66559b15&hm=23dd521139367eb289c6ed26239e2d68467b5a16cdf3b6c6790942e2a29bfdce& [08:52:47] [1/2] this is the quality it should be at [08:52:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1244936398255951883/Useless_Maid_Lisa_Lisa_Comp_Rose_2.png?ex=6656ecdf&is=66559b5f&hm=1faefea4155d52965cd2c9d2936784977595c255587646c2ab501e0146e833fe& [09:19:31] May I know again the special page for making IP address block exemption? [09:23:18] [[SR]] [09:23:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR [09:23:19]

[09:23:45] No, there is a page to do this kind of things without the need of filing requests [09:25:59] Then I don't know. Not my forte. [09:27:10] Okay thanks [09:27:51] I think Legroom knows, he told me before for which time also led another server admin know this thing [09:30:04] [[Global blocks]] [09:30:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_blocks [09:30:05]

[09:30:16] Let me check [09:30:16] Perhaps here [09:31:07] `please email cvt@miraheze.org to request they make an account for you or exempt you from the ban` [09:32:31] This introduces way of exempting from global IP address blocks, I'm only looking for that missing special page where I can use to make local exemptions. [09:33:18] Because I'm going to make a large amount of IP ranges to be exempted, for me to be able to make edits via VPNs on public computers in the upcoming months [09:34:22] you can find all special pages from Special:SpecialPages [09:34:35] that is recommend and normal practice [09:34:37] This one isn't listed, this is why I ask there [09:35:15] it is 'Local status of global blocks' on the english one [09:35:35] which links to https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist [09:35:53] what language are you using? [09:36:20] Over the past years validity of SSL certificates has been decreased for many times, I still remember in 2018 a recommendation no longer encourages certificates longer than about a year [09:36:36] Mine is Canadian English so yes it should apply [09:37:00] yep same [09:37:06] Local status of global blocks [09:37:14] Yes [09:37:16] which is a confusing name [09:37:20] I get it now [09:38:02] Yes and I just noticed that this is actually listed in the list of special pages now [09:39:22] it used to be 1 year, we are going down to 90 days with CF for all certs. [09:40:30] Are you going to make every wiki with custom domain behind Cloudflare? [09:40:59] eventually [09:41:10] Ohh okay [09:41:36] Is Miraheze infrastructure under heavy attacks which led to this decision? [09:42:29] yes [09:42:33] not currently [09:42:36] Ohh okay [09:42:43] but when we implmeneted cloudflare [09:42:49] Is this already scheduled for the near future? [09:43:00] it does reduce a lot of load though [09:43:04] So you already made preparions to having every wiki [09:43:05] Ohh [09:43:06] I know [09:43:24] It's nice, and at least for me it doesn't affect normal uses [09:43:47] I can't even feel the presence of Cloudflare when I'm using Tor [09:44:00] It's really nice, a great move! [09:44:06] Tor will work fine [09:44:14] although you are slightly more likely to see a captcha [09:44:28] I've never seen this happening before [09:44:54] So just with direct access without seeing any Cloudflare pages [09:46:35] And I noticed the context saying, "If a global block is disabled on this wiki, users on the affected IP address will be able to edit normally," this is what I'm looking for [09:46:52] Can I request for an exemption for my wiki to be excluded from global blocks completely? [09:47:00] no [09:47:05] Ohh okay [09:51:53] that's good [09:52:08] Yes very good [09:52:29] Cloudflare is so adaptive I've seen many websites just blocking access from Tor [09:52:49] So there will be a circle spining forever followed by loops of endless refreshes [09:53:52] But for Miraheze I even can't feel the existence of it [09:53:56] 🤣 [09:55:06] challenge rate is 20% for Tor, across all traffic it is 0.33% [09:55:22] so about 60x more likely to face a captcha [09:56:37] However I've never seen any challenges from Miraheze websites. Is this because there is more adaptive policy set, providing allowance for trusted users? [09:56:51] nope [09:58:08] Okay [09:59:00] a mix of threat intellligence data and data from https://www.projecthoneypot.org/ is used [09:59:55] we don't challenge everyone [10:01:34] Ohh [10:01:37]