[02:25:20] Isn’t there already a massive Yugipedia [02:36:06] yeah, the independent one [02:36:23] although they had data loss recently [02:37:16] I suggest to help/focus on indie version if it exists [02:37:55] [1/2] [[mw:Extension:WikiSEO]] [02:37:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiSEO [02:37:55] [2/2] there's syntax for that + needs some settings [02:37:56]

[02:38:28] I had no clue wikiSEO could set pageimages [02:39:06] Thank you [03:45:44] [1/2] I recently put my wiki up on SEO and I got this email [03:45:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248120615169294428/Screenshot_20240606_114410_Gmail.jpg?ex=66628267&is=666130e7&hm=9db7f20aeafaf9421f8e0e3f2dd33ace1c51ec4ddee0eb0b30032f23c71d43a7& [03:45:44] What's this about [03:48:25] nothing to worry abt, pages like page history, mediawiki: pages, etc are blocked from being indexed [04:25:16] Miraheze blocks some pages like diff pages and page history from indexing [04:25:26] MediaWiki: isn't blocked yet actually [04:25:52] I opened a PR in MirahezeMagic to do that but it's been pending for a few weeks and the only SRE member who can review it has been busy [04:26:44] I feel like a lot of SEO issues should be fixed upstream but things as simple as supporting brotli compression have been stalled upstream for years so I have no hope in that matter [04:27:54] Gotcha, I mainly asked because I was checking the indexing report and it seemed like some of my pages were blocked for some reason [04:28:07] As in genuine articles rather than stuff like page history [04:28:14] Could you send a screenshot of what's blocked? [04:28:25] Also I'll respond more soon I'm going to go on my laptop [04:30:07] [1/4] Wait nvm false alarm, I checked closely and its links like: [04:30:07] [2/4] https://rebalancetf.miraheze.org/wiki/Hotquakes%27_Miscellaneous_Notes?action=edit [04:30:08] [3/4] https://rebalancetf.miraheze.org/wiki/Gamemaster%27s_Alternative_Fortress?action=history [04:30:08] [4/4] etc etc [04:30:30] ah ok [04:30:45] There's some crawled pages as well [04:31:14] Its not mentioned on the email but there's quite a few genuine articles in these crawled pages [04:31:36] crawled pages are what will appear in search iirc [04:32:20] [1/3] It said otherwise [04:32:20] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248132344343429251/b2c69f83132fc6b7a7a5e66019e8eccb.png?ex=66628d54&is=66613bd4&hm=cff95aecb994e2165d76f837102b0617c5b0928d2921e20545bdc92f1273c25f& [04:32:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248132344599019540/6ca658ca10f7e2f50d979418033035d2.png?ex=66628d54&is=66613bd4&hm=209a59565151c8be9c4315c08d75e4767e3ba4b022af88612b821993f3962978& [04:32:58] [1/2] This as well [04:32:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248132502665691157/41d355df50835caaaf530eaa3e10ba1a.png?ex=66628d79&is=66613bf9&hm=9da6fd4e873d8cc3451b9b1c5c7b674c49a39eff96dcdd922dec4de4b5afdfc2& [04:46:59] google crawling is honestly confusing and frustrating [04:53:55] oh so [04:54:11] this means that google's systems have seen the page and looked at it but they are not showing up in results yet, but will eventually [04:54:14] not 100% sure why that happens [04:54:46] O right gotcha, tyvm for the help [04:54:48] 👍 [05:18:46] np [07:08:43] uh, is anybody on? [07:11:17] Hi [07:16:49] Morning 🌄 [08:17:49] yawn [08:19:13] siu [09:10:40] Possibly dumb question but just to make sure [09:10:53] You can't attempt to monetize a miraheze wiki page that you yourself hosted right [09:11:03] Like you can't put a patreon link or whatever [09:12:40] well donation links are a different case [09:13:05] Donation links are fine, but if you attempt to lock contents behind a paywall, it's forbidden [09:13:15] ^ this [09:21:17] tbh worst thing anybody can do is lock info behind a paywall, at least if the wiki is about something important [09:23:07] but optionally donating to miraheze or even an individual wiki team that has a patreon is a good thing to do [09:23:23] there was a wiki which demanded money for article writing [09:23:26] and looked like [09:23:31] 90s spam site [09:23:34] on Miraheze [09:23:51] it was taken down and admin took it too personally lol [09:24:45] it wasn't in English and that's probably how it was hanging around [09:27:27] [1/2] would've been easier to at least use cheaper methods such as chatgpt if you're looking to pay people to write YOUR wiki that YOU wanted to create 😂 [09:27:28] [2/2] but then chatgpt hallucinates and its writings read like an npc said it, but it's the closest thing you could get to a free ghostwriter [09:28:59] I think it was like 2 years ago lol [09:29:20] honestly, I like only AI nonsense before ChatGPT blow up [09:30:03] like there were several Russian pages which posts neural generated shit, like horoscopes or news, it's actually so absurd [09:31:51] [1/2] tbh if u wanna use chatgpt, use it only for like formatting or something like that [09:31:51] [2/2] but even then, analyze what it churned out word by word, make sure it didn't hallucinate in any part, rewrite a good chunk of it, then publish [09:32:14] nah, ain't touching it [09:33:20] [1/3] example [09:33:20] [2/3] [09:33:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248208090990514196/IMG_20240606_123303.jpg?ex=6662d3df&is=6661825f&hm=d1de177e8b4b9ef9b37c9110fa5b5692567bceb64c9a58bf13a3f3b6ec930343& [09:33:45] lol what [09:38:39] My wiki is about an horoscope comic series, yet I don't understands anything in here lol [09:41:15] the only horoscope I'm reading tbh [09:42:20] "you may feel like hitting yourself in the head with an iron" ain't that the truth [11:31:35] did something die [11:31:37] getting a 503 [11:32:16] what happened [11:32:19] same [11:32:30] seeing that #global-wiki-feed stopped i'm guessing it's not just me [11:32:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248238174799532043/image.png?ex=6662efe4&is=66619e64&hm=2242339a706a5dd43caf40208b1965909acde3fc0bdb261ad3efe4b692364248& [11:33:13] [1/2] it says no access. what is it? [11:33:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248238260673839156/image.png?ex=6662eff8&is=66619e78&hm=36fe6d664682aab05c38671d985b152682f40a7a54c18cddfa9aca336caa52d2& [11:33:23] global wiki feed [11:33:27] ohh [11:33:27] i think you have to be verified to view it [11:33:32] i see [11:34:31] seems good now [11:39:05] Hi guys anyone knows how to disable page review? [11:43:25] Yo mean page patrol? [11:43:45] Hello, Mira! 👋🏻 [11:43:48] What I get is just something called the page review" [11:44:02] Is it just me or do we have another "SGW" problem? [11:44:04] Like unstable pages won't be shown to other users [11:45:04] [1/2] disable this? [11:45:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248241245885698148/image.png?ex=6662f2c0&is=6661a140&hm=b86caf7afaec85be569c164271be36399dbfbac0963082f02fa32384ea272b51& [11:53:08] I think it is [13:01:32] LMAO [13:01:42] ) [13:02:18] Nevermind. [13:02:25] It's just too long downloading. [14:15:59] Is miraheze have any arbiation commitee (ArbCom) just like wikipedia? [14:16:06] nope [14:16:38] closest would be to call for an appeal to the steward team for a collective response [14:17:29] there are ideas in the wild for volunteer groups to look at single issues and for a group of community 'reps' to look at things but nothing is in practice either informal or in policy on that [14:20:21] [1/2] Is whitewashing allowed on miraheze? [14:20:21] [2/2] I see fjattar (DomesticFjattar) page on mockupedia was on his bias and he also whitewashed his page but when aliasmaychange remove biases on his page, he removed it as he said "god damn it rdesign, no freedom of speech" and protected that page, but he warned him to unprotect that page or he will demoted and he unprotect that, and that case was stalemate condition. [14:22:52] Writing biased content is not per se against any policies but maybe there could again be a case to make about the wiki governance and voting policy [14:23:09] I've heard that wiki and user come up many times now [14:23:24] I would really encourage you all to try to sort out your issues yourself [14:24:36] On mockupedia, article should be written on NPOV and that rule existed since the foundation of mockupedia [14:27:07] You did ask specifically about MH, thus that was what Collei answered from. Each individual wiki are free to impose more strict rules on their own wiki, as long as they don't clash the with global policies [14:29:03] [1/2] And there is a point to be made about local policy violations, but is there any reason you don't just go to whoever is allegedly violating local wiki rules about the problem? I'm unfamiliar with the topic of this wiki but again I have heard about this wiki way more than I'd expect to hear of it given that I believe the premise of it is mock elections(?) Disag [14:29:03] [2/2] reements and disputes are normal for any wiki, but for some reason you seem to want Stewards to mediate every conflict on your wiki no matter how big or small. [14:29:29] Stewards aren't responsible for enforcing local policy [14:29:44] 'whitewashing' is not specifically targeted in miraheze policy [14:30:04] if it is a matter of local rules I would take it up with the bureaucrat, I believe RDesign is still the head honcho on mockupedia [14:30:47] and based on the original comment it sounds like he's handling the situation fine, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [14:31:12] I don't know why he hasn't kicked fjattar to the curb but oh well [14:34:04] That wiki only really comes up in relation to some kind of conflict which is kind of absurd [14:34:11] But whatever lol [14:34:44] now multiply that by a few orders of magnitude and you have the old age of reception wikis [14:35:24] Yea [14:40:39] Do anyone know a bot for verify on the wiki and discord? [14:40:50] and easily to configurate [14:41:29] Wiki Bot? [14:41:35] Also WikiAuthBot [14:42:00] It's for my wiki server [14:42:02] Ok [14:42:22] Earlier recommendations still apply [14:42:36] ok [14:43:13] I might change the format of the Welcome to FurrNations banner due it looks like Wikipedia [14:43:44] I should add the important links below of the welcoming message banner [14:44:18] using {{small|}} [14:44:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:small [14:56:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245390052989599772/1246761755527479396/image.png?ex=6662d6de&is=6661855e&hm=a351d378b97c334ece908a072f7ed3a14563eb330192c3cfa11c722f4864a1ef& [14:56:49] here his statement from rdesign [14:57:10] ok [14:57:18] I don't think there's anything I can add to the matter [14:58:36] because he repromoted again to admin btw [15:00:58] Gonna look for people that like Yu-Gi-Oh to contribute to my wiki [15:01:39] and I, by furry micronationalism means [15:49:28] Take it up with RDesign, we (Stewards) don't need to be involved in this [15:50:58] Ok [18:32:08] What? [18:34:30] [1/2] You guys sure get an interesting cast of new characters on here. Like a 40% mix of language barriers, 20% troll/fakes, 20% nonsense, and the rest being kids not knowing what they are doing. [18:34:30] [2/2] Or something else. [18:35:54] Eh [18:35:59] eh [18:36:10] 😳 [18:36:16] Well, I am none of those. I just kinda hang around and talk about templates and CSS [18:36:35] If you’re referring to this discord, we get a lot of lurkers obviously, and a lot of good fun people and productive volunteers [18:36:45] What am I? [18:37:21] @crazierinzane ^ [18:38:31] I suppose the peaceful quiet kids don't stand out in the classroom, oops. Sorry I forgot that group. [18:38:44] My main intersts are worldbuilding, templates and CSS so that is what I mostly talk about [19:19:41] And then there are those who combine, like those who have a language barrier and no idea what they're doing [19:40:48] Anyone got good ideas for dark theme skins or CSS?? [19:42:22] Personally recommending Citizen [19:57:01] -t5 [20:05:59] I tend to do one dark color + another color/grey that does with it [21:01:35] How do I make it so that only users with accounts can edit the wiki? [21:04:19] accounts or approve accountss [21:13:46] Go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions/* and then uncheck the boxes for the edit, createpage, and createtalk rights. Or alternatively, set wgEmailConfirmToEdit to true to allow only accounts with confirmed email addresses to edit. [21:14:05] Thank you ^^ [21:42:00] Oh well the people who ask for support have this a lot lol [21:42:10] Well not a lot [21:42:27] But it stands out over those who have reasonable questions and are patient [21:43:30] I don't think trolls are that common though [21:46:36] Personally I've made a habit of talking more in #offtopic even when it's related to Miraheze because #general has always been mostly support questions [22:16:59] [1/2] Any idea how I'd make it so a second row is generated only when there is one added? [22:17:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248400273341288569/image.png?ex=666386db&is=6662355b&hm=ed2efc273b473c12f3146dcba9342882fae0d4306bab775ebb5c60eebc96a188& [22:17:25] The usual if statements don't seem to be working [23:09:30] iirc i could never get this to work, tabber just doesnt seem to support if or switch statements so i had to can it [23:10:02] wait this isnt tabber sorry im, dumb LOL [23:10:07] It's a wikitable [23:10:24] yeah sorry i got confused, uhh [23:11:01] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/72740485/mediawiki-display-table-row-only-if-value-is-present heres a stack overflow i read once [23:11:04] but i cant recall if it works or not [23:11:52] looks like you need to wrap the row itself in the #if statement [23:12:30] [1/4] like [23:12:31] [2/4] ```{{#if: {{{2|}}} [23:12:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template:_%7b%7b%7b2 [23:12:31] [3/4] | [23:12:31] [4/4] }}``` [23:12:33] that should do it? [23:13:39] if args 2 is specified, will showing [23:14:16] right, thats what TheDemon08 wants, isnt it? apologies if im misunderstanding entirely [23:15:13] Wouldn't it be {{{4}}} here? [23:15:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b4 [23:15:39] so you want {{{4}}} to generate a new row, right? [23:15:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b4 [23:16:09] 1, 2, and 3 generate one row, so 4 would be needed to make a new row yeah [23:16:20] one sec [23:16:55] Hmmm, but I don't remember if this works [23:19:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1248415975372492861/image.png?ex=6663957a&is=666243fa&hm=444a36d31ddd1f3b1ddd8eccbab39adefc5b9e8f776ea77bf720a3c0391553cf& [23:19:25] Am I doing that right? [23:19:38] here you go [23:19:48] i used pipe escape but lemme see if it works with pipe [23:19:58]