[00:55:04] [1/2] ? [00:55:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250614384506437693/image.png?ex=666b94e8&is=666a4368&hm=5c562f2a919f615f7831729bdf1e935120f3cdca128fe5661c5c0369b4e47f09& [00:55:31] What [00:55:42] i added all i could [00:55:59] like a paragraph, but it needs more details. [00:56:35] Was that before or after the request for more info [00:57:00] i requested 2 days ago, i got the notification 2 hours ago. [00:58:08] Then read what exactly it’s asking for and answer ig. Length don’t mean accepted, it just needs to info we ask for [00:58:19] alrigh. [01:04:16] Ok, i fixed it up and added more information as the notification said. [01:41:37] how do i switch back to new look. [01:41:54] i accidently clicked old look now its stuck. [01:42:14] Go into your preferences page and change the skin to vector 2022 [01:42:56] Thank you [02:01:59] there is not create page button, do i have to insert it myself? [02:24:42] [1/2] Hello folks, I'm working with some orgs that have very limited tech proficiency. They are interested in starting wikis but don't have the know how and would have to hire out to run MediaWiki. I think miraheze would be good, but does Mira offer paid versions that include more hands on help or just the free version? If someone took care of the software they'd probably still need to hi [02:24:43] [2/2] re someone else to run the place, so if there's somewhere that does all in one I think that would be their best bet. [02:32:14] [1/2] miraheze does not have any paid version no, nor a service to 'contract' hands on assist; this would essentially require getting someone savvy on board who'd be willing to do it either paid on their own terms independently or just well intentioned volunteers who follow documentation and use simpler tools, ie, using the PortableInfoboxes extension and following th [02:32:14] [2/2] e [[Infoboxes]] guide which is the part most wikis hang up on [02:32:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [02:32:15] [02:32:57] our documentation is reasonably broad enough to get someone patient going, but may prove patchy in some topics [02:34:51] Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I'm trying to find the simplest solution for them. [02:37:46] hope it works for ya, unfortunately miraheze is not necessarily the simplest turnkey though if you have the right process it can be pretty much set up and forget [03:40:04] is there no way to delete usergroups anymore? [03:40:34] i don't see any "dete usergroup" option anymore and there are quite a few useless usergroups on my wiki that i can't get rid of anymore :/ [03:43:04] The option for deleting user groups led to quite a few inexperienced users deleting core MediaWiki groups such as bureaucrat (thus locking them out of ManageWiki altogether and necessitating Steward intervention); however, I don't see why that necessitates removing the option for all groups and concur that it should be brought back [03:43:40] I have seen a few screenshots with the option visible, so I'm not quite sure why it's not enabled for all wikis [03:44:01] I remember my wiki used to have a "delete usergroup" tab but as of a few months ago that tab disappeared [04:49:14] Odd [04:49:34] @reception123 hope you're the right to person ask but do you know why? [04:51:53] maybe it's disabled for default group? do you have custom ones? [04:52:52] it's disabled for every group [04:52:55] even ones that i create [05:09:01] Is it possible to get an email notification for new accounts being created? [05:22:57] Hmmm, have you made sure that the group isn't assigned to any users? [05:23:09] yes [05:23:31] I'm able to see a delete section under permissions mgmt... [05:23:51] seems like this may have taken the place of the standalone button? [05:23:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250682030786875452/image.png?ex=666bd3e8&is=666a8268&hm=766867e7414d726ab3c62f17437577915b09e335e052149129bbcb74d9511c47& [05:24:46] it always had been a section instead of just a button [05:24:57] [1/2] but i'm not seeing that section [05:24:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250682300841332777/image.png?ex=666bd429&is=666a82a9&hm=60d4f21621d37eb5bd4dbc53686fbf8664affab8026950708c469760229d8f71& [05:26:09] Any possibility that a browser adblocker may be fouling things up? If not, I can take a look at the wiki and see if I can replicate [05:26:34] tried a different browser to see and it still doesn't show up [05:26:56] Bummer, which wiki is this for? [05:27:14] https://removededmsongs.miraheze.org [05:27:43] I have a similar issue on [Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki](https://wretchedyoutubevideos.miraheze.org) [05:31:44] Utterly strange, can replicate on both wikis. @Technology Team, please see above, on both wikis I seem to lack delete permissions that should otherwise be possible by dint of global perms, both users have a managewiki-permissions role assigned and cannot delete roles on-wiki. [06:17:59] Funny, I don't think I've ever really seen the delete tab before... Wonder what's up with that? [06:27:30] I've always kind of thought the only way to delete groups was to remove all permissions. Serious Mandela effect moment for me. Anyway, it does also look like some groups ('`*`', '`user`', '`sysop`', and '`bureaucrat`') can't be deleted at all. [06:27:58] yeah that's a recent implementation iirc [06:28:13] because newbies deleting bureau is a ... yeah ... [06:28:33] No, no it's not. The button has been in the source code for four years, and the deletion restriction has been there for about as long [06:29:09] It's removing ManageWiki perms that's the more often one tbh [06:29:17] Rather than deleting the group [06:29:43] I almost wonder if it's a skin-specific problem... [06:29:54] It's really weird for me though, because I literally haven't seen that button in years, and now it's showing up for me after I created a new test group on my wiki. [06:30:02] Also any chance you can look at https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12166 @orduin [06:30:06] While you're here [06:32:05] Probably not tonight, I'll leave it open as a reminder though. (it's 2:30am here, and I meant to be in bed over an hour ago, that delete button weirded me out enough I couldn't help myself) [06:32:51] @orduin sleep well then [06:34:39] [1/2] sorry for the noob question but what do i do about this 😭 [06:34:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250699842783805440/image.png?ex=666be47f&is=666a92ff&hm=85656c2fabdee21134281808856b3954b368b0f696bcf0b86539bdd1d3d01f8c& [06:34:51] Clear your cookies [06:35:57] I'm surprised that's not pinned [06:36:03] Nooo my cookies (thank you haha) [08:23:40] In every page that has infoboxes, has the category that says Page with Script Errors [08:45:43] [1/2] you've been told several times to link m the pages, because neither messages here nor screenshots tells us what is exact issues [08:45:43] [2/2] also create thread in #support please [08:45:46] [1/2] does this auto or do i have to refresh the page [08:45:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250732839490814023/image.png?ex=666c033a&is=666ab1ba&hm=a6c8d90a4408e59af7dea45be556d7654be821452cfc990ec32147e0693fca56& [08:47:34] refresh [08:49:23] Is there a magic word or other way to get a date for the last edit of a wiki? [08:49:31] Eg, wiki last updated 16th of June 2024 [08:51:30] check changes log? [08:51:39] I mean for display on a page [08:52:17] idt there is a system for that [08:53:33] You can use magic words such as `{{REVISIONMONTH}}` to get the date a page was last updated; I do not know of any equivalent for changes to the wiki as a whole [08:53:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:REVISIONMONTH [09:19:33] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/VengeanceClaw [09:19:37] by example [09:34:22] [1/3] probably this [09:34:22] [2/3] [09:34:23] [3/3] how to fix it? I don't know, it's a damn Lua lol [09:37:45] [1/2] again - create a thread in #support for long term support/deep help [09:37:45] [2/2] general chat is good for small error, the rest will get lost and likely won't get anything [10:31:08] Am sorri evybudi, tuday i onli speek the englis [10:37:19] [1/2] How would I position these two tables side by side? I’ve tried using float:left and float:right but they end up overlapping the content below [10:37:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250760911854243880/IMG_7384.png?ex=666c1d5f&is=666acbdf&hm=f0c0612b631d6f61383236153d9f08848baf5ba3f4251d1387ae6b997536b3ce& [10:38:08] flexbox [10:38:23] [1/4]
[10:38:24] [2/4] table 1 [10:38:24] [3/4] table 2 [10:38:24] [4/4] /div [10:43:34] [1/2] This doesn’t seem to preserve their set shape [10:43:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250762482436407317/IMG_7385.png?ex=666c1ed5&is=666acd55&hm=f68c7e98a728ddae32d092b062f45ce1ade23a41a01a4e97d21ae49fe297b661& [10:44:07] too much margin on the individual things i imagine [10:47:08] Would there be a way to set the flexbox to align one table left and one table right? I’ve never really used flexboxes before [10:47:25] send a link? [10:47:30] To? [10:47:45] to the page ur doing this on [10:47:48] Ah [10:47:54] im sort of assuming u have 2 tables worth of space [10:48:05] https://urbanshade.org/wiki/User:Mooncloud/Sandbox [10:48:33] I’m not very experienced with css and tables [10:52:37] [1/7] ``` [10:52:37] [2/7] .content-table-wrapper, .content-table { [10:52:37] [3/7] display:contents; [10:52:37] [4/7] } [10:52:38] [5/7] ``` [10:52:38] [6/7] put this in the css [10:52:38] [7/7] i wonder if its a this skin thing that adds a bunch of wrappers to the tables.... [10:53:02] [1/2] what it looks like with this pasted in [10:53:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250764867099562095/image.png?ex=666c210e&is=666acf8e&hm=36c84a5961dca35a2b0d58824872b4b7ba59c3f1da89e572b7695392401062f7& [10:53:10] Ah [10:53:48] you mean as table appearing inside div in the code? [10:54:41] [1/2] yeah theres 2 things of wrappers [10:54:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250765275238895706/image.png?ex=666c216f&is=666acfef&hm=e4e8212dea5b8f52a24626440223674498a8477d3b90c57cfdbe1a219debb7b1& [10:55:36] Just waiting on it to update [10:56:12] I don't think it's skin specific, although I work mostly w/ Timeless and I see that all the time [10:57:29] [1/2] Works [10:57:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250765984919322697/IMG_7386.png?ex=666c2218&is=666ad098&hm=51ae194ff8167a734e48384230108fa14dca542561ed9310fc775188bcf98507& [10:57:43] I didn’t think I was doing anything wrong haha [11:10:14] [1/2] After implementing above fix a mysterious shadowy bar has appeared for every table touching the right border of the page [11:10:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250769194111205396/IMG_7387.png?ex=666c2516&is=666ad396&hm=4b1c01593b9a629fb10ccbd2602edf3fa88bd728ac7c49ab75e2bec7471432cc& [11:11:31] ough [11:12:41] I think I’ve found a workaround to the two tables issue so I’m going to try and remove the css you suggested to see if it changes [11:13:23] [1/2] Black bar of doom is very intense on special:recent changes [11:13:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250769988843737088/IMG_7388.png?ex=666c25d3&is=666ad453&hm=9d3cfe4e0269b8bdfccb06b6f6a01c46eedc51879326eaf84c2e59c0a93d5490& [11:16:47] [1/2] Shadow bar is gone from other pages but as I guessed it undid the fix [11:16:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1250770842527465604/IMG_7390.png?ex=666c269f&is=666ad51f&hm=5e1aede06c5ca049ccb88df341959ebfd5b13d3e56c5e12b3bf0b3120e4a5129& [11:19:04] tbh u could just put the 2 tables in a outer table but its kinda not good on mobile [11:20:57] I’ll experiment with it tomorrow [11:21:00] Thanks for the help [12:17:54] That's the purpose of WikiForge AFAIK https://wikiforge.net/index.html [14:05:33] Hello, I recently created my first wiki on Miraheze and I have two questions. First: how can I see a list of all articles that have been created on my wiki? Second: how can I see all the pictures that have been uploaded to my wiki? I don't find these options anywhere. [14:08:33] Special:SpecialPages would have all these sorts of things, specifically Special:AllPages and Special:ListFiles [14:09:08] Okay, thank you very much! [15:18:03] 1.42 is being released today! [16:35:10] [1/2] Are there others who can't load openstreetmap.org ?? [16:35:10] [2/2] The maps on my wiki aren't loading either [16:36:08] I think it's under DDOS 😮 [16:36:16] idk it loaded for me [16:36:40] "Website is under heavy load (Queue full)" [16:37:41] I have about 300 changes that needed to upload 😢 [16:38:56] Ah, it went through 😄 Pfewww [18:19:05] Havent used this platform in 2years now, excited to really learn it now [18:30:19] [1/2] Good to see you back! [18:30:19] [2/2] FYI, it took ~5 years since 2019 for me to learn how MediaWiki works [18:31:13] I have this on my task watchlist, may try and tackle over the summer [18:31:53] yeah i kinda gave up the first time 😛 but got way too much spare time to spend now xD [18:32:46] Best of luck! [18:32:52] If you need any help just ask:) [18:33:18] [1/2] silly question i really should know myself... [18:33:18] [2/2] but is my email registered at MiraHeze? to get notifications and what not [18:33:38] i cant find any account settings like that [18:33:43] You can check on Special:Preferences [18:33:53] Also we don't mind silly questions [18:34:05] The only silly questions are the ones you don't ask [18:36:09] love it! thanks [22:55:08] <.labster, replying to idrinklisterine> https://www.engadget.com/if-ai-is-going-to-take-over-the-world-why-cant-it-solve-the-spelling-bee-170034469.html I think someone copyvio’d you [22:55:29] Lmao [22:55:44] Call in the trademark [22:55:49] We gonna be rich bois [22:57:51] Nah, hexagons are simply the bestagons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOifuHs6eY [22:58:06] AMEN [22:58:16] AIheze [23:06:46] <.labster> I was thinking of redrawing the WikiTide logo with hexagons. Now that WikiTide has nothing to do with WikiForge it’s not great that we have a similar design. [23:07:07] Wondering if anyone's interested in editing yugipedia.miraheze.org [23:07:29] Not really a point in remaking a logo for a default farm but it would be cool! [23:12:39] [1/2] are there any way to get more detailed stats then "Special:Statistics" [23:12:39] [2/2] specifically for amount of visits for the wiki per day/week/month [23:13:10] [[Special:Analytics]]? [23:13:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics [23:13:10] [23:14:56] not sure how i missed that site... but yeah thats probaly what i need, thanks! [23:16:01] <.labster> 17 users still using Internet Exploder [23:16:10] tbf its a mira custom [23:16:22] id loke to gather them all into a room to have a chat [23:17:53] I'm impressed by that lone nokia browser user. [23:18:05] What ancient device do you still have running symbian OS? [23:19:36] could be spoofed but lile [23:19:41] why [23:22:52] <.labster> I should set my useragent to NSCA Mosaic