[00:51:36] Is there a permission for recent changes on what specific people can view it? [00:51:57] dont think so besides view aka not being private [00:52:20] It's gonna be a problem then [00:52:40] The devs are mad at the editing team because they leaked information [00:52:56] about a certain update [00:53:07] you can delete and supress revisions [00:54:04] [1/2] this help? [00:54:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1251701295694221342/3DbVyx0.png?ex=666f892c&is=666e37ac&hm=27869ec2ac85eac03a8b754419746b2a337a2a70fa3e588b252dc018c4a6e56e& [00:54:52] if it involes personall info contact stewards [00:55:00] they can hide from admins [01:11:05] Where is the LocalSettings.php and the extensions directory? [01:12:51] @pixldev [01:13:05] you don't access them normally [01:13:07] why [01:13:11] Oof. [01:13:17] Someone proposed something [01:13:22] we allow access to settings via [[Special:ManageWiki/settings]] [01:13:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings [01:13:23]

[01:13:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1251706256939548743/image.png?ex=666f8dcb&is=666e3c4b&hm=0088076fcfc5251acb5177031dcef0aa9f0cce6494f997b60c9dff02dfc9d7a2& [01:13:58] An extension? [01:14:10] We allow requests for extensions to be installed [01:14:11] I have no idea what he's trying to achieve [01:14:25] but they take time because we need to do a security review on them [01:14:30] ask him [01:14:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1251706461621452870/image.png?ex=666f8dfc&is=666e3c7c&hm=3a918c0a549df215df92d2712f14c2ac246eafffec092f0db8e9094a721a9af7& [01:14:38] if you want to move this to DMs feel free too [01:14:39] He's saying this now [01:14:45] Alright [01:14:48] Let's do that [01:14:50] I need assistance [01:14:53] what [01:32:56] re new extensions: they also take time for someone to actually install the extension after the security review is done [01:34:07] + extension installation/updates can take even longer than usual: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal?diff=prev&oldid=399654 [01:34:37] well yeah but way less [01:34:42] for some [01:35:06] didnt see the CN post [01:35:33] understandable since there was no extra attention to it [01:51:04] second fandom support ticket in as many days ooof [02:32:58] hey guuuys whats the best browser for loading a ridiculous amount of javascript enchanxments [02:33:43] firefox is having some words with me [04:24:58] does MW have unix/timestamp support? [04:30:22] [1/2] Wooo I just received some permission from a dev to make a wiki for their game :D [04:30:22] [2/2] I hope the request passes da review [04:44:34] Is there a special page with a list of protected pages? [04:45:28] You work on the Usagi Shima wiki? [04:46:13] Yea [04:46:14] I love the work there, your wiki really inspired our project in terms of design [04:46:26] Aw thank you ^^ [04:47:37] Special:ProtectedPages [04:48:13] Op, I assume you found it [05:32:41] tedkalashnikov: in what context? [05:38:36] an extension or magic word where i could pass a unix timestamp in for MW to render a local time? [05:39:11] not 100% sure if it's supported locally but i'll check first [05:39:15] natively* [05:39:44] no worries, we have a lot of trouble with writing the correct times for patch notes for phighting and maybe itd just be easier to do timestamps if an extension supports it LOL [05:43:27] there's no native support, but parserfunctions does have it [05:44:08] `{{#time: r | @1690000000}}` as an example (leading @ is important i think), see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##time]] for a list of the format codes [05:44:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23time:Template:_r_ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##time [05:44:53] alternatively you could hack something together with scribunto (and you could wrap either of those in a convenient template if you want) [05:59:56] OH we have parserfunctions enabled [06:00:19] thank you!! [06:01:44] you're welcome! [06:02:05] (and yeah, parserfunctions is usually enabled on most wikis since it provides basic essentials such as if and switch cases) [06:11:33] ParserFunctions I think is enabled globally; in fact, ManageWiki doesn't even provide an option to disable it [06:12:34] oh yep! it's in GlobalExtensions.php [08:06:20] does anyone know if theres any repurcussions to changing the wikis timezone from UTC [08:10:23] can't think of why off the top of my head [08:10:35] okay epic [08:19:38] watch as something breaks ten minutes later [08:19:47] okay, so... ive correctly gotten `#timel` to adjust to our server time but it seems to be refusing to acknowledge my user timezone [08:20:11] i did only just change my timezone so idk if it takes time [08:21:48] same, weird [08:22:06] from what im reading, user preference should always override $wgLocaltimezone, no?? [08:23:24] the keyword should strikes again [08:23:50] hahaha [08:23:59] i wonder if its actually broken or if im using it wrong [08:24:16] it's either broken or we're both using it wrong [08:24:39] brb gonna spend one hour debugging parserfunctions [08:25:26] let me know if you find anything out, ive opted to just sticking the `T` format on it cause that works well enough for what we need [08:26:44] the main issue was that different editors were struggling to convert the times patches went in, and we kept having timezone confusion (americans love saying its EST when its EDT lol) [08:26:57] so atleast this way we can more cohesively get the correct timestamp from our own timezone [08:28:17] [1/3] i tried manually adding the local timestamp but now it thinks my timezone is UTC??? [08:28:17] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1251815600632893552/image.png?ex=666ff3a0&is=666ea220&hm=986ce82c2c1124ee980958f9c2fcbda541c5b5d312e460f702a9d20b78f5ff66& [08:28:17] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1251815600825827389/image.png?ex=666ff3a0&is=666ea220&hm=6772f0edd83c3e582f7451a772678b742afdc7f428b7eb0468e98fcdd6a3557a& [08:31:00] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/ParserFunctions/+/refs/heads/REL1_41/includes/ParserFunctions.php#466 [08:31:05] something's wrong here, i can feel it [08:31:34] uh oh [08:31:49] yeah for some reason its set it to UTC even though my wiki timezone is now Europe/London [08:32:13] (also i fixed local to be 'true' even though it seems to work either way) [08:33:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Voj1cwms8eoqsrqj [08:33:10] this is interesting [08:34:06] i just had some non-UTC friends test and theyre now seeing UTC too [08:34:09] despite the local flag being true [08:34:37] (the wiki's timezone is not UTC) [08:34:49] am i accidentally finding bugs in mediawiki again [08:35:23] i hate it when that happens [08:35:34] you just want to use a neat parser function and Oops! [08:36:01] i accidentally found an xss in a skin whilst testing an extension i was making [08:36:25] oh gosh [08:37:13] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12179 [08:37:43] atleast it got fixed relatively quickly [08:37:49] yeah true [08:38:15] i've found two XSSes in different web apps, and i have yet to receive a fix [08:38:19] [1/7] okay so from what ive gathering: [08:38:19] [2/7] #time [08:38:20] [3/7] * defaults to UTC [08:38:20] [4/7] * `local` parameter does not appear to do anything [08:38:20] [5/7] #timel [08:38:21] [6/7] * defaults to the wiki's timezone [08:38:21] [7/7] * does not respect the user's timezone [08:38:29] probably should pressure them more but i'm too lazy to fix [08:38:32] to do so* [08:42:14] re #time: that is even odder because on my test server, #time with local set acts like #timel [08:42:16] idk if it was mentioned but you can set up personal timezone in preferences [08:42:19] i did! [08:42:28] that's the entire problem [08:42:37] yee, #time and #timel are not listening to it [08:43:27] [1/3] its only sticking to the wiki's timezone, which i just changed from UTC to EST5EDT so atleast thats working [08:43:28] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1251819419399749693/image.png?ex=666ff72f&is=666ea5af&hm=d754f743675aa56c8d881f9b8caf58f6a127c56890a930d280de6d3d9df00f8f& [08:43:28] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1251819419600945253/image.png?ex=666ff72f&is=666ea5af&hm=6a8a5e22238886f49537587267bdcf497778b56533b99caed3939067558ab5ca& [08:45:03] here it is on my test server: https://files.catbox.moe/qic832.png (server time shown here is wrong, i set the server timezone to Asia/Kolkata but it really wants to do UTC here i guess. i love finding side bugs whilst debugging a bug) [08:45:16] https://files.catbox.moe/d8lg6k.png [08:56:23] i found these two applicable but very confusing tasks: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T9133 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34923 [08:59:06] this is interestng [08:59:16] because the docs on mediawiki.org definitely suggest that timezone should be respected [08:59:36] [1/3] > #timel [08:59:36] [2/3] > This function is a syntactic shortcut that operates identically to {{#time: ... }} with the local parameter set to true, so it always uses the preferred time zone of the user or the configured time zone of the wiki (as set in $wgLocaltimezone) [08:59:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23time:Template:_..._ [08:59:36] [3/3] [08:59:49] i will blame this person if the version at that time period doesn't work as well: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AMyLanguage%2FHelp%3AExtension%3AParserFunctions&diff=prev&oldid=6259692 [08:59:50] but perhaps i misunderstood it this entire time [08:59:58] LOL [09:01:36] Wow, that task is 12 years old [09:01:45] Parsoid still isn't default too! [09:01:48] yeah i know right? [09:02:40] I love finding mediawiki bugs old enough to be at high school [09:02:50] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/ParserFunctions/+/bccd783b4501c539bc5674acc8c050ec5d778fd4/includes/ParserFunctions.php#522 [09:02:53] i blame that person [09:03:08] gotta go for a bit [09:03:59] all because i wanted to put a silly little timestamp on my silly little wiki [09:06:10] Mostly dates back to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/ParserFunctions/+/c763bf6ce1f4a374b28ca5bb16c9918933d21bf4%5E%21/#F0 from 2011 [09:06:21] Blame Bawolff [09:06:43] There's https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/ParserFunctions/+/d605269ce8efc4370efb1b45ed85eece0f34ac77%5E%21/#F0 in the middle [10:00:45] RhinosF1: what did Bawolff do though? it appears that they didn't remove code getting the user's timezone (then again, i don't know how that looks like) [10:01:21] BlankEclair: implemented the line you're on about [10:03:05] eh, i blame Ham Pastrami because they claimed that local uses the user's timezone [10:03:38] i swear if i found a bug in mediawiki [10:05:27] Ah [10:06:11] amazing, i found another bug whilst debugging this bug [10:06:42] https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Sandbox/HashTest?diff=prev&oldid=57608; section's id is "#test", link in edit summary sets url fragment to "test" [10:10:26] Perfect [10:10:35] BlankEclair: do both parsers show it [10:10:47] Try add ?useparsoid=1 [10:11:01] Well & [10:11:09] Cause you already got some url parameters [10:11:25] huh, when using action=parsermigration-edit, parsoid sets the section id to ".23test" [10:11:57] That's different [10:12:17] nothing changed when i used useparsoid=1 for the diff link [10:15:23] re the entire #time with local set not using user timezone thing: should i make a bug on wm phabricator or ask about it on the extension's talk page [10:16:50] Ask on talk page [10:37:37] hi everyone [10:37:47] how to import templates from Fandom?? [10:39:46] [1/2] Go to Special:Export on the wiki you wish to export the template from and put down the template page [10:39:46] [2/2] Then go to ur own wiki and go onto Special:Import and upload the file [10:40:02] okay [10:58:53] if the Fandom template is an infobox make sure to enable PortableInfobox extension on your Miraheze wiki, and after import make an empty edit on template page (on your wiki) [11:10:18] alternatively, you could enable portableinfobox first, _then_ import the template [11:25:54] it doesn't matter, empty still required [11:26:17] *empty edit [11:26:31] enabled or not, PI template always appears in raw tags after import [11:27:52] oh oops, kinda weird but oh well [11:28:10] does a purge work or does it have to be a null edit [11:28:36] purge doesn't always work, from my exprience [11:28:44] why it happens I don't know [11:33:47] tedkalashnikov: i've asked whether or not if #timel not using the user's timezone is intentional or not: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Y6sfenjw667asacj [11:33:56] now we wait [11:34:17] thank you for handling that for me, i really apprecaite it!! [11:35:08] [1/2] anyone know whats wrong here? im a big noob so its likely a stupid mistake xD [11:35:08] [2/2] `

[https://www.youtube.com/@CyberStormGamesOfficial Youtube channel]/li` [11:35:48] in wiki text you can make bullet list w/ `*` [11:36:18] [1/5] `* first [11:36:18] [2/5] * second` [11:36:19] [3/5] numbered list w/ `#` [11:36:19] [4/5] `# first [11:36:19] [5/5] # second` [11:36:21] you can use also File: syntax to create an external link that uses an image [11:36:36] isnt anything, if u want a image to link do `[[File:image.jpg|link=url here]]` [11:36:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:image.jpg [11:36:43] idk what you wanted to do w/ img [11:37:25] because you `` won't do anything [11:37:26] guess i forgot some info.. i want a tiny image before the youtube channel text [11:37:42] an icon can be donw w/ File [11:38:00] oh okay [11:38:10] `[[File:Icon,png|20px|...]]` [11:38:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Icon%2cpng [11:38:16] just give it small size [11:39:00] if you want to make it unclickable (I suggest to do this w/ icons) add `|link=`, just empty like that, after `20px` [11:39:20] [[mw:Help:Images]] [11:39:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images [11:39:21]

[11:39:32] worked, thanks! [11:47:45] tedkalashnikov: you're welcome! and if #time not supporting user local time is intentional, we might be able to hack something together by modifying [[mw:Extension:UserFunctions]] to extract the user's timezone, and scribunto to reformat the date based on that TZ [11:47:45] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserFunctions [12:30:50] [1/2] Yooo, new wiki almost approveddd [12:30:50] [2/2] Eeeee [15:31:20] What's the subject? [15:31:36] The Kinder World mobile game [15:31:45] It's been approved now ^^ [15:31:57] cool, good lcuk! [15:35:02] [1/3] Thanks [15:35:02] [2/3] I'll probably wait until I get the CSS mostly sorted before showing the wiki to players [15:35:02] [3/3] I do need quite a lot of help from em since there's tons of content that I don't have 😮 [15:36:40] If you need help... [18:03:25] [1/2] helour chat [18:03:26] [2/2] guess who bought a custom domain for the pizza tower wiki a:mushroom_dance: [18:03:34] ayyy [18:03:39] hoping that SSL request will be approved [18:08:41] Assuming it's setup correctly, it will be [18:09:29] hell yeah [18:11:31] shit i forgot about the SSL certificate. i'd choose for mira to provide it but i forgot to write that down [18:16:22] If we're providing it, nothing for you to do [18:16:37] Apart from point it at us [18:22:33] it looks fine [18:23:45] gotcha [18:26:47] has anyone tried search console URL update tho? [18:31:50] I suppose new domain should work first, then I have to register it as new site and update SEO key? [18:32:16] there won't be problems w/ old key? [18:36:16] also the guides say something about 301 redirect [18:38:56] I think we have to do it [18:42:05] oop [18:42:38] please don't tell me we are first w/ this lol [18:43:51] Maybe [18:48:05] LMAO [18:56:10] [1/2] cool [18:56:10] [2/2] will it be pizzatower.wiki? [18:57:01]