[01:35:42] pixldev: can i have crat on testwikibeta? thanks [02:19:28] Yeah, metawiki is now called "Miraheze Meta" instead of just "Meta" [02:20:17] is it intentional? in [[Special:ManageWiki/namespaces/4]], it still mentions Meta as the proper name for the namespace [02:20:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/namespaces/4 [02:40:46] hm? what do you need it fo? im fine with it and have the perms but id just wanna get a +1 from tech first [02:48:24] pixldev: oh okay. i want to try reproducing https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12237 with managewiki (and i'm not really in the mood to set managewiki up from scratch) [02:51:00] Claire. I literally wrote an entire PR for CW without having a local instance since it was a pain in the ass. That's not mood thats self preservation [02:51:42] @originalauthority @reception123 any objections to this? if not ill action in the morning? [02:51:58] how big was the pr [02:57:59] smoll [02:58:02] and still not merged [02:58:46] that's kinda understandable [05:01:38] [1/3] Is there a way to automatically update the position numbers? [05:01:38] [2/3] This leaderboard is getting quite lengthy 😅 [05:01:38] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1253937921572995183/Screenshot_20240622_060032_Chrome.png?ex=6677ac31&is=66765ab1&hm=f3caeadf6b165e0cc9054fd325b3797f592fb00fdb3ab98284870f9bb3f7e0b1& [07:14:34] both of User:XtexBot and User:PsiBot are mine. but why my edit to PsiBot's global user page is blocked while to XtexBot's is succeeded? [07:16:55] this is why: https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/2 [07:17:04] the code doesn't make a distinction on what accounts are owned by who [07:17:49] oh you're asking why it works for XtexBot but not PsiBot [07:18:20] it's basically a simple `user_name in page_title` check, so `"Xtex" in "XtexBot"` passes but not `"Xtex" in "PsiBot"` [07:19:52] oh thanks [07:37:55] BlankEclair: thats not good [07:38:13] what are you referring to? [07:38:29] BlankEclair: that abuse filter [07:38:35] That is very exploitable [07:38:41] i'm not saying it's good, i'm just saying that's what happens [07:39:07] i honestly kinda thought you all knew about it and was like "eh, works well enough" [07:40:22] BlankEclair: nah I'm really surprised that hasn't bitten us in the behind [07:40:28] not yet [07:40:53] We've had LTAs who have pentested us a few times [07:40:59] It's how we found a few CVEs [07:41:11] LTAs exploiting poor permission control [07:42:43] impressive [07:43:32] it's out in the air now, gotta get someone to replace it with something like `user_name == page_name or page_name.startswith(user_name + "/")` [07:44:07] BlankEclair: https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2020-15251 was found by an LTA [07:45:54] where do i suggest modifications to abuse filters? this one is a two-line fix [07:47:27] I have devised a fix for editing other user's pages: https://tali64.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/9; I will work on restricting moving other's user pages [07:48:06] `!=` works with regex? [07:48:43] It does indeed [07:48:48] that is so cursed [07:48:56] does it do a search or a match [07:51:58] BlankEclair: find a steward [07:53:13] none of them are up on irc [07:53:25] do i email them? [07:53:56] the most recent steward who has done a thing is NotAracham [07:54:46] @Stewards see above [07:55:02] oh btw the bug is in more places [07:58:30] It appears to be in one of [Meta's filters](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/7) as well; besides that, I would probably alter the range of users allowed to edit others' userpages (excluding subpages) to sysops or at the very least autopatrolled users since there's no real need for users to edit actual userpages if they're not admins [07:58:51] and another one: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/55 [08:00:00] The two could probably be combined [08:00:24] sometimes a non-steward should edit a user page: [[Steward_requests/Miscellaneous#Forgot_to_update_my_userpage_before_I_vanished,_and_I_can't_add_a_topic_to_my_talk_page,_so_I_might_as_well_add_it_here.]] [08:00:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Miscellaneous#Forgot_to_update_my_userpage_before_I_vanished%2c_and_I_can%27t_add_a_topic_to_my_talk_page%2c_so_I_might_as_well_add_it_here. [08:00:34] though you could argue that i'm autopatrolled [08:49:53] Which is the extension that can generate an player for .ogg [08:51:53] did a search for ogg, maybe [[mw:Extension:TimedMediaHandler]]? [08:51:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler [08:53:53] ^ [09:12:14] how long does it take for an inative wiki to shut down [09:12:28] i know its like 40 - 60 days [09:12:48] as in the [[Dormancy Policy]]? [09:12:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy [09:13:59] yes [09:14:10] there you go :p [09:23:26] [[Dormancy Policy]] [09:23:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy [09:23:27]

[09:23:35] wiki bot doesn't like irc it seems [09:29:53] thought it would've bridges the line by wm-bot [09:30:00] bridged* [09:32:35] Post something in discord, and you will see wm-bot bring it up twice [09:32:44] Post something on IRC, it does not get bridged [09:33:20] Example on irc: [[steward]] [09:33:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/steward [09:33:27] Example on cord: [[steward]] [09:33:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/steward [09:33:28]

[09:35:10] Result produced on irc: https://nex.f2esports.net/upload/cdn/IceChat2009_2024-06-22_09-33-50.png [09:35:47] weird [09:35:57] [1/2] Result produced on discord [09:35:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254006958571130911/96d53582aef1b266.png?ex=6677ec7d&is=66769afd&hm=e4646cc858ae409269f0037f909cf9233f6d1ba6d05cc5f120e737b1aaffd57b& [09:37:37] I think it's probably a better idea to have the bots get ignored by chat bridges and let them resolve wiki links in their channels (wm-bot on irc resolves in #miraheze and wiki-bot in discord resolves in discord/general) [09:56:40] 👋 [11:29:53] How I can add the IPAc-en [11:30:07] Because it imported from Wikipedia [11:30:15] and it gaves me error [11:38:14] what error? [12:18:36] https://wikiball.miraheze.org/wiki/Служебная:Вклад/Dolber3 lock this vandal [12:18:46] he's spamming redirects [12:22:29] [1/3] you dont have to speak russian to see he's doing nonsense redirects [12:22:29] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254048865095516300/image.png?ex=66781384&is=6676c204&hm=b6c8cc01319998c3f35b8070dd5e592971ef7527f94c72cfe12f35a63b148311& [12:22:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254048865397637201/image.png?ex=66781384&is=6676c204&hm=85092b93fd045db5aed3b761ad5828034b800b834c25b570558fa623bb5d3917& [12:39:11] #cvt ? [13:38:44] How do you grab the original file type of an image instead of a .webp? [13:58:09] I personally just convert the file [14:14:18] Fandom? [14:14:34] A webp could be an original file [14:15:10] If the original file is in that format [14:21:42] If you know the name of the file, you can search for it on the wiki. I usually find a png or svg that way. [14:22:35] I just right-click and inspect element (on Chrome) to find this. [14:25:37] BlankEclair: pixl is a dumbass and forgot to save his Mirabeta login on his phone so I’ll crat you in some 4ish hours [14:27:32] after cf switch more people talk about webp :ThinkerMH: [14:27:51] but I personally use anti webp browser extension lol [14:44:54] Dealt with that + several alts. [14:56:49] thanks [15:00:56] Wait, did MH convert images to webp? [15:01:34] Bruh, still PNGs [15:02:19] Oh wait, it's not? [15:03:39] Well, to grab the original file on MH, you need to navigate to the file page, click at "Original file" button [15:16:08] Category Handler [16:33:39] that's the problem [16:39:00] nevermind, I inserted it manually [16:39:02] dˈæɹɪlənˌɪzəm [16:39:09] https://unalengua.com/ipa-translate?ttsLocale=en-US&voiceId=Salli&text=Darrellanism+ [17:50:50] [1/7] @canyada sorry for the tag, I just remember you were helping me yesterday - I've had a look at what you and Pix sent me, but all the fandom stuff confused me, so I looked into the CategoryClass stuff. I tried pasting in the stuff from the link you sent, but I couldn't figure out where to specify the category (plus it flagged up a bunch of errors), so I tried this (I put a pag [17:50:51] [2/7] e under the category of 'TestPage'): [17:50:51] [3/7] [17:50:51] [4/7] .pcs-theme-default.cat-TestPage [17:50:51] [5/7] color:#6d63b6!important; [17:50:52] [6/7] /body [17:50:52] [7/7] Do you think this would work? If not, could you please show me which part of the snippet you sent I put the category in? I'm reading/watching some CSS tutorials, but I can't find one talking about this 😭 [17:53:54] [1/2] or maybe like this instead? [17:53:55] [2/2] $wgCosmosContentBackgroundColor.color:#6d63b6!important; [17:55:12] you shouldnt have to change anything about the snippet, i just testing and pasting it in as is does exactly what it should [17:55:59] But, how do I target it to a specific category? [17:56:32] you dont, it takes every single category on the page and adds to the body the class "cat-(category name)" [17:56:58] wait, on a specific page, not on the cosmos css? [17:57:26] its javascript, you paste it into common.js, if u tried to paste it into common.css it would make sense why is gave errors bc its the wrong language [17:58:05] and once you paste the javascript in, it runs automatically on every page when you visit it to add the classes to the [17:58:09] yeah that would do it [17:58:35] ah, damnit - I couldn't find a JS page thingy on the wiki, but I saw that it said it added css classes, so I thought it'd be okay. I'll have another look - maybe I spelled the pagename wrong or smth [17:59:21] u wouldnt be able to find a page that hasnt been made yet, just type mediawiki:common.js into the url bar [17:59:52] Ah, right - sorry, thought that because the css pages already existed before i had done anything to them that the JS one would too [18:00:58] never assume the logical option in mediawiki [18:01:11] noted [18:01:18] always assume just type things into url bar [18:01:33] whats navigating ive never heard of it. just remember every page name [18:02:05] So, pasted it in - now what do I do? [18:02:29] now go to a page with categories and inspect element u should see that theres now new classes on it [18:03:46] [1/2] for example like these [18:03:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254134755482669146/image.png?ex=66786382&is=66771202&hm=c3b5105afeef9d5ebc43b9098c7583d6e3c3b96bbbb7aff6d1e41410879296bf& [18:04:28] [1/2] I think I did it wrong [18:04:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254134932360659026/image.png?ex=667863ac&is=6677122c&hm=455d41427bbe706c27a0266daf617471d543f15e30b9d2887caa31c4ae142b4b& [18:04:50] scroll all the way to the top look at the [18:06:56] I see it! Do I then put in 'background' and the hex code? [18:07:20] that should do yes, u can try it in inspect element beforehand too [18:09:09] I tried it, but it just changed the colour of the background under the page - like, the bit that you see if you keep scrolling down [18:09:51] I tried 'content' too, and 'background-colour'; same result [18:10:22] go find the thing in inspect element that sets the content background color, its probably `#mw-content` [18:10:39] and then do `.cat-Example #mw-content` [18:19:27] [1/2] yeah, it's not doing anything - it crosses out and goes grey when I put that in? Also, if I click off it, it deletes. I couldn't find mw-content (I did try putting it), but 'content' did come up, so I tried that next - same issue. [18:19:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254138699739041924/image.png?ex=6678672e&is=667715ae&hm=8dae47bfb0ecb730b97cbc547f19b3f0e344be2695726aa64ea99388a2ad1df5& [18:19:41] (I didn't put the backslashes in, it did that automatically) [18:20:32] [1/6] css looks like: [18:20:32] [2/6] ``` [18:20:32] [3/6] .cat-Testpage #mw-content { [18:20:33] [4/6] background: grey; [18:20:33] [5/6] } [18:20:33] [6/6] ``` [18:21:09] in the inspect element if u click the + beside the :hov and .cls u can add a rule, thats where u put in stuff like .cat-Testpage [18:24:19] [1/2] arghhh [18:24:19] [2/2] I keep trying to put it in but it keeps deleting as soon as I click off. putting in ".cat-TestPage" on it's own, and that bit turns blue (which I assume is good), but then when I put in anything else it goes grey and crossed out, and then when I click off of that it deletes [18:24:50] dont click off anything, press enter [18:25:05] I did!! [18:25:13] oooh, waitwatiwait [18:25:15] new thing came up [18:25:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254140207804973106/image.png?ex=66786896&is=66771716&hm=603379bd3aaf5517fdc05b4cdea9b814d4a58dabc6af4c35cf2027a2a8c6e75a& [18:25:28] is this good? [18:25:34] yeah that works too [18:25:53] How do I save it? [18:26:04] oh [18:26:05] I see! [18:26:21] u dont, this is just to test to see if u have the right selectors and stuff, u have to write it into common.css to save it [18:26:38] ah, okay, gotcha [18:26:51] well, it didn't do anything, but it also didn't disappear [18:27:41] go find #mw-content in the page, see whats stopping it from working [18:28:18] in what page - the inspect popup? [18:28:21] I don't see it [18:29:00] when I cmd+f it searches in 'filter styles', where nothing comes up when I type that in. I'm looking through manually but I don't see it [18:29:18] [1/2] do u know this button [18:29:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254141178757124188/image.png?ex=6678697d&is=667717fd&hm=4ee323ec8db12bd434fb38901275c2fd553efc6d8d96db16c4a6dbea168af306& [18:29:28] I know literally nothing [18:29:35] but I see it [18:29:36] click on it and hover over the page [18:29:48] thats how u find things on a page [18:30:21] ah, gotcha [18:30:46] [1/2] uhhhh - this is what it looks like when I hover over the page content [18:30:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254141548078043146/image.png?ex=667869d5&is=66771855&hm=394814c6f04808dbebf2cd7a23d7618f6166cd206e0d0b91215831f5d9719a8d& [18:31:06] [1/2] then this when I scroll down [18:31:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254141630978723900/image.png?ex=667869e9&is=66771869&hm=0bb7c164413c465d71bc2a2ca19b1edea5644155593a73a316c18675edaeeb59& [18:31:43] OH! [18:31:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254141792803225620/image.png?ex=66786a10&is=66771890&hm=176862d9180f6fd48e15264062056adaac62a860a46c2fadeb89759a9238e541& [18:31:47] I found it!! [18:31:51] well when u click down that thing is then focused in the inspector [18:32:57] [1/2] Okay, it's taken me here [18:32:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254142097615880254/image.png?ex=66786a58&is=667718d8&hm=e9c6af7ded279e085b2398133fb6030657485e44eb93a41fb45cdcab3af2aef5& [18:33:13] there is a 'colour' thingy, but changing it doesn't do anything [18:34:23] [1/2] (I've tried changing both) [18:34:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254142458804305990/image.png?ex=66786aaf&is=6677192f&hm=4d5e3882c895521df5a9ca0d899bf975cf9f037faf9c79bc37baa670e238c77a& [18:34:25] now u can scroll down and try to find ur background:grey and find whats causing it to not work [18:34:32] color is text color [18:34:50] ah, gotcha [18:35:17] [1/2] https://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp [18:35:17] [2/2] i need to staple this to my forehead [18:35:42] hard to staple something to your [18:35:47] want me to? [18:35:56] yeah thanks [18:36:02] I was actually reading that earlier 😭 [18:36:09] read that harder!!!!! [18:36:10] still so confused, hence me coming back here [18:36:19] Sorry!! I shal try!!! [18:37:17] tbh i didnt have shit when i learned html and css myself, i was 9 and trying to put cute pics on pet site profile pages and all i knew was

was a magical word that made that happen [18:42:30] well, you've come so far since then! You know so much about this stuff!! [18:42:54] I, on the other hand, have read this entire thing more than twice and still haven't found "background:grey" [18:42:56] just gotta bumble around in inspect element more 👍 [18:43:50] just checking is the category called Testpage or TestPage [18:43:56] bc that might be ur problem [18:44:24] TestPage [18:44:28] Okay let me go to the office [18:44:31] I definitely typed in TestPage though [18:44:53] [1/2] well theres ur problem! [18:44:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254145103719825510/image.png?ex=66786d25&is=66771ba5&hm=9bf863685a6b8d39e1f9c1c6eb16227c25de5883b38bb745ea4312714f7e5f7c& [18:45:25] que [18:45:27] omg where is that [18:45:30] wait was that my bad [18:45:31] where did it goooo [18:45:33]