[00:05:25] Congrats [00:08:22] You may find [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze](this guide) useful [00:32:19] finally, this is :DoneMH: Done! [00:32:33] https://test.mirabeta.org/wiki/Special:Log?logid=389 [00:33:46] ty [00:34:09] filed https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12243 [00:34:53] ooh thanks eclair [00:35:00] that was the fastest close i did lmao [00:37:50] dupes dont count [00:38:29] it's also the fastest close i've ever received [00:38:42] gotta love IRCs [00:44:43] thank you! [00:45:31] would you mind if i ask what kind of wiki it is? [02:07:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254256582892589116/image.png?ex=6678d4f8&is=66778378&hm=64b2f33916b1f61db41359147ac221ff6c82031a645cf7df79a12804110cf0fe& [02:07:54] Chat I did not cook.. [02:07:59] I didnt cook at all. [02:40:02] oh! there is this game called gimkit which has a fandom wiki. and fandom sucks, so we are creating a new gimkit wiki [02:40:06] fandom has too many ads [02:40:07] boo [02:43:56] hahaha, dont worry [02:45:26] Won't find that here, and im sure you'll plenty more reasons to prefer us. Joking aside hope you enjoy your stay(and per ethical obligations i will say fandom has its advantages and issues, more of the latter but hey) [03:00:32] i wonder if there's anyone here who DOESN'T hate fandom [03:02:20] eh hate is a strong word [03:02:38] the community there is cool, its support is actually great if you dont wanna leave [03:02:45] the execs are my issue [03:03:30] I know of one person in this server who is SOAP(fandom volunteer CVT) and discord mod. They are actually awesome from my interactions with them. [03:03:46] huh nice [03:04:26] I tried to get one of their fandom global anti vandal tools working locally to maybe use on miraheze [03:04:43] the libraries stuff would NOT cooperate 😭 [03:04:52] i spent far longer then I care to admit trying [03:05:05] pretty sure part of it may be WMF related [03:05:58] as a rule of thumb if one can blame the WMF one should (this is a joke) [03:19:43] [[phorge:T12200]] hits me every time >.> [03:19:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge:T12200 [03:23:40] [[phorge:T12200]] [03:23:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge:T12200 [03:23:41]

[03:24:11] _stares blankly_ [03:24:19] thank you ManageWiki [03:24:21] very nice [03:24:42] im going back to playing miraheze minecraft and listening to the crane wives covers [03:26:05] how masochistic should i be in order to set up managewiki locally [03:26:34] Very [03:26:41] Luckily we have fellow masochists [03:26:56] Waki has a docker [03:27:03] collei has a repositor [03:27:06] oh that'd be very convenient [03:27:08] OA has a guide [03:27:14] let me find it [03:27:34] how stupid would it be of an idea for me to figure it out on my own [03:28:08] quite but it would be funny [03:28:29] if you play minecraft id give you a glass of beer in game once we add brewery lmao [03:28:40] i don't but lmao [03:29:13] and it appears that i already have issues with finding where it's loaded [03:32:08] good start [03:35:23] yep! we cant wait to move here! [03:35:39] thank you so much not being like wiki.gg staff who shut us down [03:37:05] haha, no worries? [03:37:33] We offer different products with different systems so. Have you already made your wiki request? [03:37:52] our wiki leader meep [03:37:59] is going to send a request soon [03:38:03] he told us not to [03:38:04] he will [03:38:05] sure thing [03:38:09] makes sense [03:38:22] since the requester is automatically granted rights [03:38:35] and if we sent a request [03:38:39] and he didnt know [03:38:44] that would be spamming [03:40:15] fair [03:40:35] wiki.gg shut us down after months of work [03:40:38] I am a Wiki Creator myself, seeing more then one request for a wiki would be worth flagging and discussing [03:40:49] Oof, sorry to hear that mate. [03:40:50] someone in the editing team failed a class cuz of our wiki and it got shut down [03:40:59] i hate wiki.gg forthat [03:41:10] ye [03:41:12] Oh dear? [03:41:17] wait they shut it down because someone failed a class? [03:41:22] yeah which is why we cant wait to move here [03:41:27] no [03:41:39] the old wiki woudnt fork with us [03:41:44] so they shut it down [03:41:47] months of work [03:41:58] i hope they provided backups [03:42:09] idk if they did [03:42:10] Eh, they have a policy and system. As much as I hate to say it can't be too mad. If it's written down. The logic is there [03:42:14] chave to check with meep [03:42:16] I have personally never used wiki.gg [03:42:34] ill have to see if meep has a backup [03:42:39] I have spoken with some of their staff and they were nice enough. [03:42:43] hen we can bring back our old wiki [03:43:11] i will be very mad on your behalf if they didn't provide any dumps [03:43:44] fr [03:43:54] i would sue (real) [03:44:10] We already had our daily wiki law suit nonsense lol [03:44:17] What was the wiki.gg URL? [03:44:24] gimkit.wiki.gg [03:44:25] glad that miraheze requires themselves to provide a dump in their TOS [03:44:27] long shot but I can check archive.org [03:44:30] you cant access it anymore [03:44:31] though i'm not sure how to interpret the "or" in it [03:44:36] it needs a passowrd [03:44:43] which has been taken away from us [03:45:07] nope [03:45:34] interesting [03:45:42] HTTP basic auth for some reason [03:45:42] Anyways best of luck on your request [03:45:53] and best of luck on getting your data back! [03:45:56] depending on when you submit I may review myself [03:46:03] [this_tbh](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/720821722684588082.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=this_tbh) [03:46:32] thank you [03:46:34] glad to know that custom emojis are bridged correctly [03:46:38] we made a logo for our wiki [03:46:50] [1/2] hows it? [03:46:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254281487348662272/gimkit_wiki_logo_6.png?ex=6678ec2a&is=66779aaa&hm=a857483c6524c3bb35151c069b987fecb52ad75e882c57680eaea62c0ebf898b& [03:46:51] If you'd like to forward also, we have resources on writing requests to hopefully shorten the process of back and forth more detail [03:46:57] like it [03:47:00] thanks! [03:47:13] that was actually an image URL for an emojo on another server [03:47:17] since i dont have nitro [03:47:19] anymore [03:47:21] :GimkitWiki: [03:47:25] oh [03:47:34] :DoneMH: [03:47:36] thats a local [03:47:56] is there an onboarding server when wwe get our sumbition accpeted? [03:47:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Guide_to_writing_wiki_requests [03:48:13] Pardon? [03:48:50] May I request elaboration? [03:48:58] wiki,gg had an onboarding server [03:49:10] where you talked with devs for help and stuff [03:49:14] for your wiki [03:49:55] Hm. Well, Miraheze has no paid staff, so we don't work quite as they do, we also host far too many wikis to onboard each one. [03:50:10] We have some guides on meta, but your best bet is this channel right here [03:50:48] k [03:50:49] this server doubles as community(ie #announcements, #offtopic) and a support center( #support and here) [03:50:55] k [03:51:06] Most of our volunteers, who you can see in the member list, are also her [03:51:15] And plenty of knowledgeable users [03:51:39] (my advice would be not to give someone less weigth for not having a different color name, btw) [03:51:43] so just ask here [03:51:58] what color name do i have i wonder [03:52:02] I'd recommend sending the invite to this place to your wiki chat so everyone knows [03:52:14] You are talking via MirahezeRelay [03:52:17] which is a bot [03:52:19] so orange [03:52:34] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254282931728547850/cRQT36k.png?ex=6678ed82&is=66779c02&hm=69ee15caf3b514dab483ad27f3f39cec2981c3e66d7a51f6205a9f64abbfc7ed& [03:53:37] i see me [03:53:51] discord mod(me) has gone from blue to purple and back lmao [03:54:00] ellie camero [03:54:49] anyways @hiidkhonestly have a good day night period of existing [03:55:14] if you or anyone else from your wiki have any questions feel free to ping me [03:58:20] It is not midnight here what are you talking about [03:58:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254284417250234378/x0PSh22.png?ex=6678eee4&is=66779d64&hm=278126b9d0722463615ab31282790ba604d54676a6a92be9b6b23eb29c916116& [04:00:31] I wonder what normal people who don't volunteer for wiki farms and listen to small local artists on YT on repeat do at this time of ngiht [04:00:34] sorry morning [04:01:19] sleep probaly. ill do that now [04:01:25] dev work resumes later [04:01:27] ™️ [04:01:35] ni- morning all [04:20:15] update on trying to understand how managewiki is loaded: i gave up trying to find the entrypoint, and instead worked backwards by looking for $wgManageWikiNamespacesAdditional (great technique for finding out where stuff is, especially in a big codebase) [04:20:44] i was brought to a function called onCreateWikiJsonBuilder, and then it hit me: does managewiki dump its stuff in a .json file? [04:21:20] i searched for .json in miraheze/mw-config and found initialise/MirahezeFunctions.php using ".json" like 10 times (haven't read the code yet) [04:22:03] so my mental model shifted from "managewiki loads on every page and sets globals based on settings" to "managewiki loads only on its special pages and dumps settings into a json file every save, and MirahezeFunctions.php sets globals based on the json file" [04:22:15] anyway time to read the code to actually understand what it does [04:49:56] That's pretty close. The settings are stored in the database, but are cached in a JSON file on the mw app servers, which allows for the settings to be loaded quickly with less server load. When the JSON is loaded, the timestamp in the file is checked against a second global cache to see if the file needs to be updated. [05:32:59] i can't believe i actually got this to load: https://files.catbox.moe/t2rhgi.png [05:34:25] interestingly, in the cache file for ManageWiki, `.namespaces.Project.additional.wgMetaNamespace` is "Testing" (value i set it to), but `.settings.wgMetaNamespace` is "$wgConf_test" (the sitename) [06:06:55] They sleep [06:27:08] gg i figured out the bug: https://github.com/miraheze/ManageWiki/pull/471 [07:09:33] that's so weird man [07:10:32] re wiki.gg [07:48:44] [1/2] Is there a way to have the place numbers automatically update rather than me manually changing them every time a new score is added/a score getting updated? [07:48:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254342364248674364/image0.png?ex=667924dc&is=6677d35c&hm=ac8fd1ec28760ffa037775401ecbbbf475f44eb28cc065a8c79bc480b803a96a& [08:24:23] Yes [08:24:35] which message are you replying to [08:24:55] The bit about manage wiki and json but i see void already answered heh [08:25:42] Although most of the work is done by createwiki and MirahezeFunctions, all ManageWiki really does is save to the database [08:28:14] yeah, it wasn't /too/ hard to set up a barely-functioning instance of mw [08:28:40] after setting it up, i put debug prints all over it until i had a realization [08:28:54] (and by debug prints i meant just throwing an exception, it works well enough for me) [08:29:07] Gotta get xdebug [08:29:15] maybe i will some day [09:12:13] it feels like its a lua thing to change placements based on the number of scores [09:17:19] some combo of [[mw:Extension:Variables]] and [[mw:Extension:Loops]] to make the rows and something like (this template)[https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Template:Ordinal] to do the numbers with th at the end [09:17:19] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Variables https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Loops [09:17:20]

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[2/2] [09:19:53] hm. did i remember wrong how to do link markup. whatever [09:20:24] something like this basically [09:23:34] So many brackets... [09:24:54] i can try to write something for u if u want this sounds fun :nomChocoStrawberry: [09:26:27] Yes please, this is too unfamiliar for me to attempt [09:34:33] [1/7] hiyooo I'm back againnn [09:34:33] [2/7] I thought I was doing so well - I've got a tag-specific colour scheme down for nearly the whole page now! - but I can't figure out how to change this thing. I've realised that I can change it sitewide by using the 'styling' section of the additional settings, but I have other things (like background colour of content) set using styling the same way, and I'm still able to set a [09:34:34] [3/7] page-specific colour for that. So, I thought it would still be possible to set one for this, too. But when I'm inspecting, it's not a section that I can click on/that lights up when I hover over it? It's the red bit under the footer, tbc. [09:34:34] [4/7] my other problem is that I can't find the class(?) for the red bit around the image. When I hover over it in inspect, it highlights the whole cosmos-header. I've tried using that and it doesn't work to change that red bit. I've scrolled down through the HTML thing in inspect, and I've found when I click on ".cosmos-header__wordmark", it lights up yellow? But I've tried using t [09:34:34] [5/7] hat too and the colour still isn't changing 😭 [09:34:35] [6/7] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254368993247105076/image.png?ex=66793da9&is=6677ec29&hm=297a3b7d106107049fe24c1c54d36358f873d325f35b0934fda6e8d058d44a4d& [09:34:35] [7/7] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1254368993540571166/image.png?ex=66793da9&is=6677ec29&hm=244bb7fe719fd6602d5cf81bb6a05a43ab75724668082e0f596dd8db3a84d005& [09:38:23] uh, what do you want to do? [09:38:36] change the colour [09:38:42] of? [09:38:50] that's what I've been doing with the rest of the page - I want the thing behind the image to match [09:39:01] the red bits in the two screenshots I sent [09:39:11] (though if the first one is unchangeable, I can live with that) [09:42:06] re wordmark: the yellow part is the margin; you probably need to remove the margins and readd it as padding instead [09:42:28] (in firefox, yellow = margin, purple = padding, and blue = actual content) [09:42:50] Ah, okay, thanks! I'll try and figure out how to do that! [09:43:33] figured the wordmark part out: `.cosmos-header__wordmark { margin: 0; padding: 20px 0 20px 20px; background-color: purple; }` (replace purple with whatever color you want) [09:43:49] thank you so much!!! [09:43:52] yw [09:44:42] as for the color under the footer, i think that's done with `body { background: purple; }` [09:47:45] ooh, thank you!!! [09:47:51] yw again ^_^ [09:51:46] Both working!!!! Yayyy!!!! [09:52:59] nice! [10:15:59] [1/2] How do I add alt text to images? [10:15:59] [2/2] Currently scrapping the barrel for ways to improve the wiki's seo [10:16:44] |alt= i think [10:16:48] ^ [10:16:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Syntax [10:18:18]