[01:01:04] man [01:01:18] mira is now my fav wikki hosting service [01:34:16] Glad you like it [02:19:16] and that's the WebChat extension working on 1.42 [02:19:20] hello [02:19:39] hi there [02:19:51] (yeesh we keep a lot of extensions *sobs* [02:19:57] ) [02:58:06] Where's @notaracham when I need them [03:12:02] NotAracham cannot be available 24/7; he or another Steward will process your request when they have time [03:21:59] So uh, how do I actually make the wiki's main page [03:22:11] There's 0 tutorials on yt (from what I could find) [03:22:38] I don't think I can color it in anyway [03:32:20] Templates and hard work [03:32:34] You should check out a few other wikis for inspiration [03:32:55] Oh I would put alot of work into it [03:33:04] If I knew how to use it [03:33:28] I can't really find ways to color my wiki or even give it fonts [03:33:44] I'm on mobile btw [03:33:48] IPad yk? [03:33:53] That can be done through css [03:34:01] What's that? [03:34:28] Somebody else would be better to explain that [03:34:47] But it’s basically just code that changes visual parts of the website [03:35:55] Oh I see [03:46:15] [1/6] ```html [03:46:16] [2/6] Super Big Red Text/span [03:46:16] [3/6] blue small text/span [03:46:16] [4/6] White text with red background/span [03:46:16] [5/6] ``` [03:46:17] [6/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1256093278521262161/image.png?ex=667f8386&is=667e3206&hm=b8eb04f1768a51f0cf80a3aee7f5e00b23f7f5b2bcc545d496e81a55e2b3cd66& [03:46:35] That's just a little bit. There's more you can do. [03:48:37] Oh i see ty [03:59:51] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS more about CSS [04:13:33] the best thing to start from is check other wikis as examples, although some are simple and the others might be too fancy for newbies (like Pizza Tower Wiki lol) [04:14:05] I suggest to check Help on mediawiki.org, basica of wiki text, templates and stuff [05:27:24] Or you can grab stuff from other wikis css pages if you understand what the code says [06:54:50] How do u change the website icon [06:57:06] tempette: go to Special:ManageWiki/settings, look for $wgLogo, and set it to the direct image url [06:59:29] Where can I find Special:ManageWiki/settings? [07:00:32] if your wiki is meta.miraheze.org (for example), you can go to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings [07:00:46] alternatively, you could click "Manage this wiki's additional settings" on the sidebar [07:01:16] example image: https://files.catbox.moe/ucevvv.png [07:04:02] So do I need to have it published somewhere or can I add it from my files? [07:04:28] you need to upload the file onto your wiki, then copy the url that starts with https://static.miraheze.org/... [07:06:48] Alright ty [07:11:02] <7s3s> Hi [07:11:25] <7s3s> my wiki transfer request got accepted but does anyone know why its showing stuff like this at the top of my page? (sending images) [07:11:48] <7s3s> [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1256145007170158602/image.png?ex=667fb3b3&is=667e6233&hm=8bd5b716c3757c3ee66a8570ad597868635478cefdf46a9254049b0b12c3bbfb& [07:11:48] <7s3s> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1256145007665090570/image.png?ex=667fb3b3&is=667e6233&hm=d3f83dd468d7432a967d3dc9e21361d19fa2e4edb8d89983aebcb9c6e7b67208& [07:12:42] [1/2] I did that and gave my reason for the change "to make it in-theme" but the icon is still the same [07:12:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1256145233578557572/Screenshot_20240628_141143_Chrome.jpg?ex=667fb3e9&is=667e6269&hm=2491a3c54f1f8cfc2bf4c5d00c39e802d5320bc998b89097d35c3b747084acd7& [07:14:16] It takes a while for it to show up [07:14:48] Oh alright, my bad [07:18:37] <7s3s> is there any way to make a wiki as similar to fandom as possible? i know a lot of my people are very used to fandom (myself included) [07:20:49] portable infobox and the cosmos skin are good if you want a fandom-like wiki [07:21:19] i finally learned how to put images on pages [07:21:35] i just had to click the ignore all warnings!! [07:23:50] isnt that cool irc [07:24:19] yes [07:24:45] What warnings were you getting?.. [07:24:57] it was already uploaded [07:25:02] in miraheze commons [07:25:08] Oooooohhhhh [07:25:20] Yay [07:27:18] Is it possible to change your whole site's font or? [07:28:31] url is wrong [07:28:39] you need `static.miraheze.org` [07:29:23] Go to File:Icon.png and right-click image, 'Open image in new tab', and then you get image-only page [07:29:32] copy this url [07:32:15] I'm on mobile- [07:32:46] missing PortableInfobox extension and handful of templates/modules from Fandom's Dev Wiki you'll need to copy manual [07:32:59] tap-hold [07:33:12] Alright [07:33:58] first step would be Cosmos skin, it's also easiest to work w/ cus it's mobile adaptive (thus you won't need MobileFrontend extension) and lets set up color in settings (while other skins require CSS meddling for customisation) [07:35:26] [1/2] That better? [07:35:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1256150954315747388/Screenshot_20240628_143443_Chrome.jpg?ex=667fb93d&is=667e67bd&hm=10438d55642d77d9ded5f3dabec0796f1b40cb0a2f72b0965d096b70af5bebdd& [07:37:05] yes [07:37:19] img_auth.php also work i think [07:37:29] Ty [07:37:36] and wait for cache [07:48:48] Is the MultimediaViewer extension broke on MH? [07:50:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1256154684121419797/uJWFbiI.png?ex=667fbcb6&is=667e6b36&hm=4894c1eafffc6864cdf6ba15fe6d64257723fd365586d6e6c1ad8791e1c04f51& [07:57:30] max20091: link to page? [07:57:42] 7s3s: in regards to your first image a [07:57:48] i accidentally hit enter :/ [07:58:18] in regards to your first image about infoboxes, try going to edit and saving without changing anything--apparently there's a bug that makes infoboxes not work on import? [07:59:03] I've updated my message in discord, edits don't go through IRC [07:59:36] in regards to the second image, you might need to find whatever is trying to use "Dev:Mbox" (random shot: Template:Mbox?) and either fix it, or replace it from some other template source (miraheze dev wiki, miraheze meta, or wikipedia) [07:59:42] oh [08:00:30] Fandom wikis struggle mostly on PI and things from their Dev Wiki yeah [08:01:18] instead of copying advanced templates/modules/scripts they keep them on Dev Wiki and add them to individual wikis via ImportJS [08:01:50] importjs with modules? [08:02:10] yeah? I'm sure about that [08:02:16] huh, interesting [08:02:26] (i've never edited on fandom so i dunno how their stuff ties together) [08:02:34] I used their Lua navbox on my old wikis [08:02:43] had to manually copy to Miraheze [08:04:53] I think it was initially made for approved scripts (since changes to js pages are going through moderation on Fandom) but then adapted to modules [08:05:47] I knew a guy who made a replica of popups/page previews on Fandom, I think w/ just JS, and it was accepted on their Dev Wiki [08:06:13] after their platform merge a lot of things seemingly got changed to work only on Fandom [08:07:04] at least complicated ones like tooltips I had on my wiki, Xena managed to adapt it for Mira [08:08:34] what was the platform merge? [08:09:10] their horribly outdated and modded MW from Wikia days + Gamepedia [08:09:26] alongside w/ actual MW update [08:10:29] some things fell apart like forums, tabview, comment system had to be completely reworked iirc [08:11:42] FandomDesktop was pretty much the last stage of it, make all wikis look same [08:37:05] https://houkai2nd.miraheze.org/wiki/Maggie [09:23:24] max20091: cannot reproduce on my end [09:23:31] i love intermittent bugs like this [09:34:22] works fine for me too [09:36:13] and on my wiki [09:49:51] It would be easier to re-create the infoboxes from scratch with special:infoboxbuilder than to deal with all of the fandom module problems imo [09:50:15] If you’re careful and make sure to keep the parameter names the exact same then there should be little to no issue [09:53:06] Fandom’s (most likely intentionally) made it a pain to export a wiki from their site with dependencies and bloat templates [09:53:58] You can achieve everything you’d have normally on a fandom wiki through a few extensions making your own templates [10:02:07] test [10:02:38] https://ftlwiki.miraheze.com [10:02:57] e [10:03:20] Moon, incorrect [10:03:27] their infobox is already portable [10:03:37] it's just needs a kick after import [10:04:05] @mooncloud [10:04:20] ? [10:04:35] Sorry, I don’t get the wording lol [10:04:37] cache purge on an empty edit [10:04:46] I already replied to them w/ that [10:04:56] Ah [10:06:04] Bryceeetaylorrrd: hi [10:09:00] [1/3] you just can disable Commons in settings? [10:09:00] [2/3] or keep it, its purpose is that you don't have to reupload image, just use its filename [10:09:01] [3/3] also keep in mind that images needs licensing and authorship info, and on Commons they already have all that [10:20:19] You can disable commons in settings? [10:21:05] [1/2] yes, additional settings -> media [10:21:05] [2/2] there are Wikimedia Commons (bigger and more reputable) and Miraheze Commons [10:21:26] I use WM for things like social media or country flag icons [11:07:50] hi [11:08:25] Hi [11:08:30] MirahezeRelay: hi [11:09:58] i am justamelonchannel irc account [11:10:13] justamelonchannel: [11:10:22] yes [11:46:31] Is it possible to set a custom background with the CSS extension (this one: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS)? It works for the color, but not for the image. [11:47:31] Is it possible to set a custom background with the CSS extension (this one: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS) ? It works for the color, but not for the image. [11:53:47] Yes! [11:54:42] Maybe [11:55:10] Do you want a background for something specific? [11:56:49] Yes, in fact I'd like one custom background per page [11:57:09] I know it's possible, I've done it before, but not for this skin [12:02:03] Basically, it worked on Mirage (or Anisa) but I switched to Timeless [12:14:42] is anyone active on irc [12:15:45] ping me if yes [12:17:26] [1/2] Ah [12:17:26] [2/2] Idk about doing it for different pages, I just know how to do it for all pages [12:18:01] Surely Timeless does allow it similarly [12:18:49] @ghaztliousmoths So I finally succeeded. Thanks for the help. [12:19:06] [1/2] Woooo [12:19:06] [2/2] What was the solution? [12:24:16] Bryceeetaylorrrd: i'm usually active on irc (today is an exception though) [12:25:20] Combine the css extension for the page color and a code on MediaWiki:Common.css for the background image [12:25:42] In fact, all you had to do was change the transparency to make the image appear [14:14:46] If I'm importing a wiki onto my wiki, will the import overwrite any preexsisting pages like the front page? [14:16:12] It should import the revisions, so I think that it will override, but the edits of the old one is still there and you can revert to bring it back [14:16:46] I’m not sure if it imports depending on the date of the exported edit or the import [15:15:05] I want to present some numbers data sort of thing I already have on my wiki with a graph; how can I go about this? [15:15:32] Are there any extensions, gadgets, etc. that could achieve this and whatnot? [15:15:49] Hm [15:16:01] I know there’s a graph extension but it’s painful [15:17:12] I’d check the extension list but I think a JS option would be best [15:17:54] Maybe smt like echarts [15:18:03] example off Miraheze https://stoneworksmc.fandom.com/wiki/User:Metagall/Sandbox?so=search&useskin=fandomdesktop#Echart [15:19:10] Here’s what you could do with E charts I think https://echarts.apache.org/handbook/en/how-to/chart-types/bar/basic-bar/ [15:19:57] I’m not familiar with it [15:21:10] Hmm, I see [15:22:54] I don't mind making something myself in JS (I kinda made one already but it's a bit limited in functionality), the reason why I'm inquiring is because there's one specific subtle feature that I've been trying to look for in a graphing feature [15:23:27] What is it [15:23:40] Where hovering near the curve plots a point onto the curve based on how close the cursor is to the curve itself, not the x-position of the cursor [15:23:58] And the plotted point gives the value at that point [15:24:02] Hm [15:24:09] Actually I think minecraft wiki may have that [15:24:33] https://minecraft.wiki/w/Gold_Ore [15:24:36] Obtaining [15:24:44] Ah yeah, that [15:25:06] I tried looking into it but I got lost really quickly, wasn't sure where to look for more detailed information on it [15:25:51] This template https://minecraft.wiki/w/Template:Block_distribution. I have no idea how it works. I’d abuse maybe asking In The minecraft wiki discord [15:25:59] Maybe check to make sure that echarts don’t work for this [15:26:08] . [15:26:15] Since it’s simpler to use I think [15:26:57] I'll look into both then [15:27:04] Thank you for the pointers [15:29:26] Of course [15:29:33] Congrats, you have usurped yourself. [15:29:36] Sorry I can’t be of my assistance [16:13:19] This is going to sound real stupid, but is it possible to have namespace categories? [16:17:04] [1/2] I'll have to ask you to specify what you mean [16:17:05] [2/2] Category is a namespace by itself [16:17:23] Also, generally speaking, there are no stupid questions 🙂 [16:17:25] (usually) [16:17:54] namespace are defined by prefixes (Category:, Template:, etc) w/ exception of main namespace, not having a prefix [16:18:34] [1/2] Well I have a namespace for specific items in my wiki and that namespace has a theme [16:18:34] [2/2] I was wondering if something like `Category:Namespace:Name` would be possible so that it would inheret the theme implemented into it [16:19:09] Sub namespaces aren’t supported by mediawiki [16:19:19] You could have it as a convention [16:19:29] by theme you mean styling? [16:19:57] I would say maybe w/ some kind of js meddling [16:20:10] Alright, cheers! [16:20:12] giving the styling I mean [16:20:30] Got it! [17:22:43] Speaking of namespaces, how do you select a term in a title? For example, if I want to select all the pages that have "violin" in their title, what should I put in Common.css for example? [17:25:39] [1/2] pssst, to anyone who’s interested in helping us out in moving to the newest version of the MediaWiki software that powers the farm, and screwing around with a bunch of extensions, you can help us test extensions on our [beta site](https://test.mirabeta.org) to mark them off and find problems we’ll need to fix to ensure a smooth update! If you’re interested, reach out to me or a mem [17:25:39] [2/2] ber of our technology team. We can tell ya which areas would be good to work on and get you get up with an account on Mirabeta! Feel free to ping us here or in one of the #tech channels with any and all questions(there is no such thing as a dumb question:) [17:29:13] Any qualifiers for signing up? [17:45:13] Not really no, just need a beta account which we can make for ya [17:45:48] Advanced permissions like crat and sysop would likely be more restrictive, but it’s test beta soooo [17:47:44] Well, if I can help, then I would like to. [17:55:21] [1/2] We’re tracking the testing on https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12042. Feel free to pick some extensions to test and I can help out with whatever you need. For making an account, you can either DM me with an email(for mediawiki to send a temporary password to) and Username so I can make you an account or you can email sre@miraheze.org with the username an [17:55:21] [2/2] d email. [19:23:39]