[00:11:05] i'm curious as to what the maintenance is about [02:26:16] You fucking idiots [02:26:21] what? [02:26:26] What [02:26:41] My turn [02:29:23] ...does anyone know what just happened? all i did was change nick because i disconnected briefly [03:08:39] [1/2] @aaronliu hey Aaron how do I put this infobox template in a page [03:08:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258620534321582191/Screenshot_20240704-215739.png?ex=6688b537&is=668763b7&hm=3ffd0300a026bdd58879286b2e5713d63601d8e7d01f290dd98c33b31c9176c0& [03:11:07] i think you really wanna read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_editing_with_Wiki_Markup [03:11:53] the direct answer is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Templates_and_transcluding_pages [03:12:01] @y_0urstruly [03:14:16] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates goes into detail on templates [03:53:02] I feel kind of dumb, but I've been looking everywhere and I don't get how to make the info bx show with a border on the right side of the page. I imported a copy of "infobox_country" and filled out some of the fields, but it's always below my article text. [03:53:42] example url? [03:54:43] https://dikaesha.miraheze.org/wiki/Republic_of_Saltha [03:55:41] If it helps, surrounding a link with <> removes the embed [03:56:52] hmm, there might be some missing CSS? [03:58:18] oh wow, this template has its CSS in MediaWiki:Common.css >_> [03:59:30] foolster41: you'll need to copy some css from https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css and put it either into your wiki's common.css page, or use (i prefer the latter) [03:59:38] if you want, i can also give you only the CSS applicable to that infobox [03:59:38] Sorry, I’m new to css, but is there something wrong with this? [03:59:56] Is there a better way to do that? [03:59:56] it's not exactly wrong, but it's unconventional (from my experience at least) [04:00:06] yes, templatestyles [04:01:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:TemplateStyles [04:01:15] if you're struggling then i can do this for you [04:01:20] ok, thanks. I'll try that [04:03:04] (also, you'll need to move the infobox from the end of the article to the top) [04:20:56] Hmm. I'm not quite sure I understand what I'm supposed to do with the templetestyles thing. I'm not very familaur with CSS. [04:29:26] I was just asking about the template styles, I don’t think you have to worry about them haha [04:30:31] oh [04:32:51] I thoguht that's what BlankEclair was saying I should do [04:54:21] you can eventually move to TemplateStyles when you'll get better handle of things, but if you don't use a lot of styling then you have nothing to worry about [04:54:32] ah [04:54:50] so I need to do the other with the media wiki css? [04:56:09] I'm not sure where the common css page is. [04:56:42] oh I found it [04:57:45] it worked! Thanks! [04:59:22] Is there a way I can get Announcement Pings? I can't seem to find the channels and roles section on this server. [06:08:32] There should be an option somewhere for the channels and roles section [06:08:37] But I can't see it too [06:44:20] no more gay [06:44:24] merica now [07:29:02] miraheze is no longer gei [07:33:57] why can't we have both? [07:40:23] Miraheze will be forever gay in our hearts [07:40:36] Goodbye, Mirapride… [07:40:39] :spunchbob: [07:44:55] Not sure what exactly happened to the message for the announcement pings role, but it's back in #info now [08:18:04] Thanks [09:17:27] [1/2] I’m pretty proud of these simple mbox templates I made [09:17:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258713346014711828/IMG_7836.png?ex=66890ba7&is=6687ba27&hm=043eac4386dd25dc42485b3ff04758e48837e23b612b7b1e0a7170a129f967ba& [09:17:45] Tables are truly magical [09:18:40] meanwhile i rewrote a module to NOT use tables xD [09:28:17] [1/2] Which table layout is better? [09:28:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258716072132087859/Screenshot_20240705_095007_Chrome.jpg?ex=66890e31&is=6687bcb1&hm=a72606fbffa605542289e6fd98729d66d23d2568df6cb5bc5db8027363f77eb2& [09:28:44] second imo [09:29:20] What wiki is this? [09:29:29] Kinder World [09:30:18] Agreed, the Artist column does feel a lil awkward since many items don't have an artist attached to it [09:30:44] and also the first table is truncated in that screenshots, which irks me >_> [09:31:34] Yea, it looks better in Mobile [09:32:43] I might also apply this to the Usagi Shima tables tho I'll probably save that for when I'm bored [09:37:03] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Daramount_Network_(Josenlandian_TV_channel) [09:37:14] [1/2] hmm i wonder if it wouldnt be better as something like this, making use of the ability to [keep rows together](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Sortable_tables#Keeping_some_rows_together) so it still sorts properly (though idk how it would behave with the pic spanning 2 rows) [09:37:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258718324985167923/image.png?ex=6689104a&is=6687beca&hm=4eb549ef16fd00051250ace81e4b587c0aa429c2615eb2f1d78da1a8ea16cc5d& [09:37:33] hello ! what are the best essential extensions to add to a brand new wiki ? just made one on miraheze and its a bit overwhelming to learn everything [09:38:55] What is your wiki? [09:39:29] uhhh its a wiki that basically tracks events and different things in a niche political community [09:40:03] Huh [09:41:57] [1/2] I Personally don't remember which ones I added when I first started on Usagi Shima and Kinder World [09:41:58] [2/2] I just added em when I needed them [09:45:47] yeah it's pretty much this [09:50:38] each extension has short description + links to a page on mediawiki.org w/ documentation/instruction [10:04:52] I suggest to check wikitext basics in case it's your first wiki experience [10:49:40] tryin' to set a single size for every image in a gallery but the gallery is in a template (https://decapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Slideshow) and the election fried my brain. turns out this is actually really difficult and I'm really tired. [10:50:57] Miraheze [10:54:29] tbh slideshow is a very strange thing [10:54:58] Wikia somehow made it better than [11:12:40] [1/8] what does set a single size for every image mean exactly? if u mean making the entire slideshow a certain size u can add `|style="width:300px"` (or whatever size) after |mode=slideshow in that template [11:12:40] [2/8] if u want all images in a slideshow to take up the full width u can do [11:12:40] [3/8] ``` [11:12:41] [4/8] .mw-slideshow-gallery img { [11:12:41] [5/8] max-width:100%; [11:12:41] [6/8] height:auto; [11:12:42] [7/8] } [11:12:42] [8/8] ``` [11:20:23] how do i make a infobox look like this [11:20:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258744286053404734/image.png?ex=66892878&is=6687d6f8&hm=7bf71e0c817cfbe6250dcd9f2dd2d497536af09898b2fd5935e2f1411bad7342& [11:21:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258744527242530877/image.png?ex=668928b1&is=6687d731&hm=9b5240347c8a305a837cbc0e0a33a33c44cbb976d720a34d927e8af0e52f963b& [11:21:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258744547756736583/image.png?ex=668928b6&is=6687d736&hm=c8c8535944c6dd2091bdfc0d5c1756f3a1027efdc8e8e600236a8255ef23684e& [11:21:41] my current one doesn't look as good 😭 i have no idea how to fix it [11:22:23] css border and background color [11:22:32] inspect element to see the right things to add borders to [11:22:52] (or i guess in this case, remove) [11:40:09] [1/2] It looks like the visual editor has been disabled I already tried to re-enable it but to no effect it happened during the maintenance I think [11:40:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258749253912760331/image.png?ex=66892d18&is=6687db98&hm=f5b44d1369b925d80063614c2c1c8a09e5dc7996614eaa817b6053d56f89bf97& [11:40:29] source editor is better [11:41:59] you can add ?veaction=edit (or &veaction=edit) to the end of the url to force visualeditor for supported pages [11:42:01] Yeah but for ease of use it is sometimes preferable for many of us [11:44:13] [1/2] Yeah that works it's just that you cannot switch so it must be a problem with the buttons [11:44:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258750278925029397/image.png?ex=66892e0c&is=6687dc8c&hm=f367516e99e713c1b7dd7b89dc687edd4ec5719a315660f6bb58e72b2e8de7cd& [11:44:29] yeah that's a workaround if you really want VE [11:44:55] there's some weird bug with visualeditor and namespaces that i just can't grasp why it exists, but it does [11:45:06] have you tried turning off and on visualeditor for the namespace? [11:47:33] The classic fix-all haha [11:47:39] yeah i know right? [11:47:58] bugs like these are a bane of my existence though, because i can't actually fix it [11:52:10] second for sure [11:52:44] I think it's still persists but not one 100 percent certain oh well I'll use the work around for now [11:56:02] link to the wiki btw? [11:56:39] https://sontails.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [11:59:48] sleepytail: "Enable VisualEditor in this namespace? ($wgVisualEditorAvailableNamespaces)" is unchecked in https://sontails.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/namespaces/0 [12:00:18] there's a JS snippet on Dev Wiki which should fix VE button bugs [12:00:33] oop [12:00:49] thought it was a managewiki derp :p [12:00:56] overthought it a lil [12:04:57] I almost got scared because i read it as sonichu wiki [12:06:13] coincidentally there's a sonichu wiki [12:07:04] oh no [12:07:48] it's not on miraheze at least [12:09:13] it would break content policy [12:09:18] Oh; I tried doing smth similar but couldn't figure out exactly what the magic words should be. Thank you very much! That is very much what I mean!!! u r my saviour once again canada [12:14:47] if i were to make a stylesheet with stuff like this where would i put it [12:15:00] It looks like the bug is still persistent [12:15:07] and how do i uh [12:15:17] change the css of the default skin [12:15:40] of all skins or a specific one? [12:15:55] i want to set a specific skin to be the default look for the wiki for everyone, [12:16:03] which i already set to timeless [12:16:19] i'm even more confused [12:16:25] but i want to change the colors of it a bit to match the community or do something like https://usagishima.miraheze.org/ [12:16:54] you can edit MediaWiki:Timeless.css [12:19:39] Hello [12:20:52] my exam is over!!! woooooo [12:21:00] \o/ [12:21:28] Woohoo! [12:21:56] Are all the stewards on this discord? [12:22:17] probably [12:22:33] Alr [12:23:07] Why is In front of your message? [12:23:13] Is that a user name? [12:23:17] i'm talking through an irc bridge [12:23:24] Thought so [12:23:30] Makes sense [12:23:34] and yeah, BlankEclair is my nick [12:23:42] Alright [12:24:08] yep looks like all the stewards are on discord [12:24:12] Just wanted to say, I made a wiki on Miraheze, and the process was very fast and easy [12:24:24] all stewards are here but currently not online [12:26:49] TIL there's programming/code lang userboxes lol [12:27:22] in Babel to be precise [12:27:43] i wonder how many langauges it supports [12:30:12] 👍 [12:31:09] wait where? [12:31:59] I've tested before, and every language with an ISO 639-2 language code is supported [12:32:05] so a lot [12:32:28] yeah but programming languages don't have an ISO 639-2 lang code, right? [12:33:20] yeah those don't [12:33:51] i can't find python in the babel extension [12:37:45] actually, I didn't looked up inside lol [12:38:03] it looked like Babel boxes and there were categories [12:39:02] oh :/ [12:39:26] i was half-planning to stuff my page with like ten userboxes [12:44:41] real [12:44:43] hi guys [12:44:57] this looks like a website that someone would make for a tutorial [12:46:59] > joins, insults landing page, refuses to elaborate, leaves [12:47:27] 🥴 [12:53:42] It looks like I had to refresh the page if you times because now both editors are working [12:54:21] maybe caching is doing its magic [12:54:27] (assuming you're logged out) [13:05:43] So, I joined because rarely while browsing the Sagan IV Alpha wiki on desktop view on two different devices in different browers, it would suddenly change to mobile view, but immediately switch back to desktop. Is there any reason this may be happening? [13:06:29] oceansky1: are you logged out? [13:07:02] I don't have an account, do I have to make one? [13:07:13] no, i just wanted to make sure it's the same bug i know [13:07:32] seems like caching is being a bit too aggressive and ignores whether or not the page is for desktop or mobile [13:07:52] i've faced this before on all the tropes, but have been too lazy to report it--i guess that's my cue to actually do so [13:08:41] Hold on I thought this was a bot at first- [13:09:06] it's a bot that bridges discord and irc [13:09:20] or maybe i'm chatgpt, who knows xd [13:09:26] Ah, what's irc? [13:09:34] basically another chat platform [13:09:44] Internet Relay Chat [13:09:59] Huh, I never knew something like this was possible, interesting. [13:10:00] basically first ever online chat thingy? [13:10:09] maybe, i haven't looked into the history of it [13:10:40] I dunno, I joined Interwebs too late, missed peak of ICQ lol [13:10:52] amd Livejournal [13:11:48] so, Eclair just doesn't have Discord and hang on another chat platform yeah [13:12:08] some folks here use both [13:13:07] Anyways since I only joined for this, I probably won't be very active, though I think I'll stay in case I happen to run into anything else I figure should be reported to Miraheze itself while on the only two wikis I normally look at [13:13:41] sure ^_^ [13:18:24] [1/2] Probably, the thing with IRC, unlike things like Discord it is "just" a protocol, so not limited to a specific software, there are a multitude of clients you can find that can connect to IRC. [13:18:24] [2/2] And doing a quick search, IRC was introduced in 1988 it seems [13:24:15] 35 years hot damn [13:28:47] That is the thing, since it is a protocol, it can't really die, the same way something like discord can die. The popular clients to connect to it have ofc changed several times since then. [13:33:00] i've filed a bug report: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12285 [13:56:49] @canyada itworks when I have it on full screen, but not if it's any smaller - do you know why/where I can read about how this work so I can learn why? [14:15:11] weird, is there somewhere i can see this happen? bc from my testing that doesnt happen [14:18:19] Is this css related? [14:19:06] I haven't been saving, just previewing - I can try and take a screen recording, would that help? [14:19:20] or, ooh, screenshots. brrb [14:19:27] save it just so i can see what youve been doing and poke around [14:21:02] kk, saved it on the template page - here's a page with that template on: https://decapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Jelpax [14:22:36] huh what part exactly isnt working? it all looks as expected for me [14:23:06] [1/3] not full screen vs full screen: [14:23:06] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258790263581835394/image.png?ex=6689534a&is=668801ca&hm=77ec8e2d339d5cf7766a6daa3b6ad9b1ea23f2b1156c4b8f6cf5b83ad24d33de& [14:23:07] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258790263921315882/image.png?ex=6689534a&is=668801ca&hm=16c3b38cbd70ed4bb47ad3a12ead3c6b3c3afe45da13cada51a5077c3463d9a0& [14:24:07] (I'll make it bigger as I know it's hard to see rn) but yeah, it's the same size as before the code if I'm not full screen. [14:24:43] 🤔 [14:24:57] and look [14:25:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258790913992294480/image.png?ex=668953e5&is=66880265&hm=51a65eb46cb37fd8e56be5e7c553a7bcce5f730eebe3285c71555a7cf7c83d28& [14:26:01] (ignore my binging maclolm in th emiddle in the background lol) but look! Not full screen, and the images are wildlyyy differnet sizes [14:27:10] [1/4] If this is css related, maybe you need [14:27:10] [2/4] ``` [14:27:10] [3/4] @media screen and (min-width: xxx px) { [14:27:11] [4/4] ``` [14:27:39] Idk tho [14:27:42] i honestly have no clue - where should I put that, if it is? [14:28:13] id hazard that the slideshow is still actually 300px wide, and theres something on cosmos i think that makes all images on windows under 850px wide "max width 100% height auto" [14:28:36] theyre technically not "wildly different sizes", theyre both 300px wide and height to match [14:28:52] huh, okay, weird - I had a look through the cosmos css and I didn't see anything, but I'll have another look [14:29:20] [1/2] its this bit [14:29:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1258791826526179429/image.png?ex=668954be&is=6688033e&hm=fc29f875b14b1f4602183e0c96da8b8a3232533d2f314077639b33c9c063420f& [14:29:26] yeah, good point - I just want them both to maybe fit inside the same space, if tha tmakes sense? Like, set a box of a certain size for the images to apear in [14:29:28] The easier way is to just click on the x next to the embed [14:29:29] ohhhh [14:29:44] facepalms can't believe I missed it, thank u very much [14:29:55] Do I just remove the 'important' bit? [14:30:11] [1/2] but tbh even with resizing the screen i cant replicate it for some reason [14:30:11]