s as white boxes [09:01:09] I think I have to learn how to edit Common.JS as well as .CSS [09:01:56] js isn't really that necessary to modify when you're changing aspects of a skin imo [09:02:06] <.labster> I always think it’s funny that Skin:Citizen manages to be a more finished product than Star Citizen [09:02:13] css is what you need to modify [09:02:14] Pffffft true [09:02:52] [1/2] I wrote this guide basically on how

s work on my wiki for other editors [09:02:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1260884000222740480/image.png?ex=6690f13b&is=668f9fbb&hm=e4712fc8704c9286cdfe5f62f831c5b823a9ce24d80a9eab1870505ab5e21566& [09:04:38] <.labster, replying to mmalevich> Generally you’d want to put that in a template, then use TemplateStyles to hold the CSS for it. [09:05:17] <.labster> The TemplateStyles bit is optional [09:05:40] [1/2] I tried doing that, the problem is sometimes you need unspecific numbers of paragraphs within one

[09:05:40] [2/2] But I assume you can load a template into a page in just plain text (if that makes sense), kind of like how template pages work [09:07:21] <.labster> {{subst:}} on saving, or Special:ExpandTemplates [09:07:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/subst:Template: [09:07:22]

[09:08:12] substitute templates? [09:08:23] oh yeah, hang on, lemme try [09:12:09] Timeless my beloved [09:13:07] Timeless does indeed look nice [09:13:13] Modern but classic [09:13:21] Literally "timeless" [09:15:20] if you need examples of how customizable it is check (from min to max?) softcell.mirahezs.org, splatoonwiki.org, gogigantic.wiki and pizzatower.wiki [09:16:07] Yeah, now that I'm reading more about it, I'll probably switch skins [09:16:11] Timeless is da best ^^ [09:17:26] Looks great [09:17:59] mobile adaptivity is cherry on top [09:21:53] [1/3] speaking of mobile, why are you keeping mobile frontend @tedkalashnikov ? [09:21:53] [2/3] I saw on twitter people complaining about whiteness on mobile, but you're using Timeless on desktop [09:21:53] [3/3] also there might something funky w/ Timeless bg too, it's white on mobile [09:22:31] [1/3] 1) i havent styled it [09:22:31] [2/3] 2) i wanted to keep a light mode option for people with low vision [09:22:31] [3/3] 3) yeah ik i havent fixed it yet [09:22:57] i work full time i only have so much spare time to write the css and mobile just isnt my priority haha [09:23:09] understandable [09:23:39] Oh, Timeless actually adapted my header styles well [09:24:26] [1/3] I just need to clean them up a bit [09:24:27] [2/3] Maybe even remove the background altogether [09:24:27] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1260889430680539257/image.png?ex=6690f64a&is=668fa4ca&hm=14f8c5048b1d391261ed17bd81dbbe9492ce33ec74ce0831d0e4e57ef4758866& [09:39:30] MediaWiki question [09:39:43] is there a way to embed YT videos as part of a gallery [09:44:19] I think there's a plugin that allows you to embed YT videos [09:44:33] You could try using the code it generates and putting that into the gallery (although I'm not sure) [09:44:50] Does it need to be in ? [09:47:50] I've made a template div kind of a thing for YT embeds [09:47:55] to imitate gallery [09:48:49] [09:49:25] [09:52:14] [1/3] more complicated/specific for another wiki [09:52:15] [2/3] [09:52:15] [3/3] [12:26:27] quick question; is there any way to stop people who aren't admins on my wiki from looking at old page revisions and recentchanges? [12:29:05] No [12:31:05] private the wiki, whitelist individual pages I think would do it, but that's not realistic for anything at scale [12:31:25] yeah definitely not feasible for a wiki made to host a comic [12:31:55] and the other answer comes down to something convoluted, make new page instead of editing or revdel undesired entries which probably doesn't solve it either [12:32:05] there is no specific permission to toggle for it, only hacks [12:32:08] ah [12:32:38] i'm surprised that mediawiki/miraheze doesn't have the option to make old page revisions/recentchanges only accessible to certain user groups [12:32:50] mediawiki doesn't offer that behavior by default [12:33:08] miraheze merely uses mediawiki plus some wikimedia global extensions and a homebrew to configure those settings [12:34:09] yeah i know, just surprised that it's not in mediawiki by default and then that miraheze doesn't add that behavior [12:34:25] if another platform can it's either done a hack with some trouble taken to make it work nicely or different software really [12:34:38] nobody really thinks of it because page history doubles as necessary attribution for people's work [12:34:52] in other words generally considered core to the wiki experience with little desire to modify that [12:35:08] yeah the purpose of my wiki is so specific that i kind of expected it to not really be considered [12:35:12] From the beginning mediawiki was build to be open, almost all visible and reversible [12:35:32] yeah, it takes some creativity to do what are essentially not standard wiki behaviors [12:35:41] how do i make an forum [12:35:58] [[Special:RequestWiki]] [12:35:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWiki [12:35:59]

[12:36:07] at the same time though i was kind of expecting there to be some extension out there to hide recentchanges considering there's an extension for trivia games [12:36:51] but oh well [12:37:01] the best that might work for you as long as you don't want absolute confidentiality (can still be bypassed by people who know what to put in their url), is to strip recentchanges from the navigation and hide buttons to view history [12:37:11] basically using css to strip the interface to what you want to be the experience [12:37:46] i've already done something similar to that with talk pages, so it can't be too hard to also do it for recentchanges and page revisions [12:37:56] yeah if you do it for talk pages it should be the same principle [12:38:05] and for anything on navigation you can just edit the interface message [12:38:11] by default for vector, MediaWiki:Sidebar [12:39:10] Certainly no shortage of that on the internet [12:44:39] > [11/07/2024 22:31] private the wiki, whitelist individual pages I think would do it, but that's not realistic for anything at scale [12:44:44] you can still view past revisions of a page [12:45:40] example: go to https://cvt.miraheze.org -> click on "Permanent link" -> click on "(diff)" -> continously click on "Older edit" [12:45:48] well there goes that tangent [12:46:01] in other words the idea remains impossible to enforce [12:46:57] you probably could make a custom extension that refuses to serve the page if you're referring to an older revision [12:47:54] "thanks bot!!!" [12:47:59] the link works [12:52:34] made one [12:52:44] now need someone to accept that [12:54:21] What you're looking for sounds like a CMS. which MediaWiki is not and was never designed to be. [12:54:56] > [11/07/2024 22:31] yeah definitely not feasible for a wiki made to host a comic [12:55:00] wait, just for hosting a comic? [12:55:36] if so, possible content policy violation? (wiki primarily used as a file host) [12:58:52] ONLY for 1 thing? [12:59:01] uh, what? [12:59:19] i hate it that i need my wiki to be accepted [12:59:22] it should be instant [12:59:28] I would say if it was approved and transparent about its intentions then it should be fine [12:59:54] instant = influx of spam, huge degredation of performance, incredible difficulties in policy enforcement [12:59:54] oops i jumped the gun a bit ^^; [12:59:58] in other words not practicla [13:00:03] practical* [13:00:17] and frankly it's a good way to deter the impatient [13:00:27] yeah that prevents NSFW forums [13:00:31] too [13:00:36] miraheze is not a platform that will function without effort [13:00:43] nsfw is not prohibited, but it is regulated [13:00:45] also, wdym by forum? [13:00:58] sounds like he conflated with wiki, he did it before and corrected it [13:01:01] sorry [13:01:02] confused [13:01:08] oh okay ^_^ [13:01:10] i edited already [13:01:22] I have that problem sometimes, a significant part of my online stuff has been through forums even before wikis :p [13:02:14] the wait can be protracted for request review however, apologies for that [13:02:37] all depends on availability/right time for the wc team to jump in [14:20:05] I need to set up a bot account for a bot I'm coding for my wiki. So basically that's just a regular user account for which I can set a bot flag somewhere? Or is that a different account type somehow? [14:20:55] First one [14:29:27] thanks! Is an account with the bot flag automatically Bureaucrat? Or do I assign this role to the account as well? [14:30:20] turwaith: you'll need to manually assign crat too [14:30:39] I see no reason why a bot needs crat though [14:30:42] (assuming it even needs bureaucrat--principle of least privilege and that jazz) [14:31:31] Okay fair, for now I only need it to edit a single table on a single page.... normal user with edit rights should be enough [14:54:34] has anyone here set up google analytics for there wiki? i know you can set up google console ( i have for SEO) but i want more numbers xD [15:06:25] We have [[Special:Analytics]] since we run matomo analytics site wide [15:06:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics [15:06:26]

[15:06:29] im not sure if we can do GA [15:07:37] okay, just wanted more grapths ect on it, to see progress on the wiki instead of just the past week. but google console does show quite a few things [15:34:43] Do we have an icon for wiki mechanics? [15:38:40] we could give them the 🔧 and replace the tech team icon with ⚙️ [15:39:21] Isn't the wrench a 'crat tool? [15:40:22] Mop = sysop, Wrench + screwdriver = crat, Pliers = IA, Globe = Steward, Cog = SRE, ??? = Mechanic [15:40:44] A lot of stuff is tied into CSS variables so it can be changed that way [15:41:25] There are quite some wikis that did deep customization. If you're looking for banner images, you can see how Dustloop Wiki and Tolkien Gateway did it [16:40:37] Can i get help with something? [16:42:58] sure, whats up [16:43:59] Im trying to get a infobox called 'infobox officeholder', when i use one of the syntaxes in the template, it has a redlink with no box [16:44:12] @brenvilz btw you need to verify to send messages with links [16:44:18] Ohhh, I see [16:44:22] I can see your message so lemme check [16:44:48] okay so just an image dump of the wiki [16:44:50] just images? [16:45:04] Yeah, we already have the wiki itself! [16:45:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261000417706246275/image.png?ex=66915da7&is=66900c27&hm=b1065c301cb147dc2dbf7bb8ba81c527ceba0007cd6a2d8dd4e19157b0f576a3& [16:46:20] How many images is it [16:46:51] I'm not sure but I would have to guess in the thousands, upwards of 10k I would assume. [16:47:01] Wiki itself has about 14k pages. [16:47:04] hmmmmm [16:47:07] I've seen worse [16:47:13] URL? [16:47:23] https://horridhenry.fandom.com/wiki/Horrid_Henry_Wiki [16:47:35] [1/2] And this one is ours on MiraHeze [16:47:36] [2/2] https://horridhenry.miraheze.org/wiki/Horrid_Henry_Wiki [16:48:23] I invoke the power of the wiki gods [16:49:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261001330915541042/image.png?ex=66915e81&is=66900d01&hm=5cb810f8982cabba58c2a358c122933241010cddc8e846bbe8ec86f8c3dc5226& [16:49:11] keep getting this [16:49:57] your missing the template [16:50:07] wdym? [16:50:40] https://dunjakistan.miraheze.org/wiki/Abubakar_Ibrahim_I this is the page btw [16:56:29] im working out smt related to import with our staff rn, if we take too long on this ping me in like 30 minutes and ill take an alternative route [16:56:53] no rush at all! [16:57:03] Do whatever's best and easiest for you guys [17:05:40] Can I embed external images directly on a page? I'm coming from Markdown. Checked the Images formatting page but it appears to be oriented for images uploaded to the wiki directly. [17:06:48] so is there an answer? [17:06:51] or not [17:08:59] [1/3] You simply do not have that template [17:08:59] [2/3] You have other types of infobox templates, but none strictly "Infobox" [17:08:59] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261006334724276347/Screenshot_20240711_200803_Chrome.png?ex=6691632a&is=669011aa&hm=293e5f132142f911a5b3bc7b11a26f4dd8820a380092715f24513c66c5b2e3ef& [17:09:32] what happened to it? [17:09:46] It just doesn't exist [17:09:47] the template never worked now its showing that i dont have infobox [17:10:10] this only began showing up yesterday [17:10:20] is there a way to fix it? [17:11:16] I would not know [17:11:45] its not doing it for the other boxes [17:11:52] just this one [17:12:01] Link? [17:12:15] to what? [17:12:23] To the problem [17:12:38] https://dunjakistan.miraheze.org/wiki/Abubakar_Ibrahim_I [17:12:51] this one has the problem [17:14:36] [1/2] It's an issue with the officeholder template [17:14:36] [2/2] https://dunjakistan.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_officeholder [17:14:50] yeah im not sure what happened with it [17:15:11] i tried deleting the template then re importing it [17:15:17] but nothing is workin [17:15:44] OH MY GOD THE AMOUNT OF TEMPLATES IT USES O~O [17:15:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261008062945300560/Screenshot_20240711_201505_Chrome.jpg?ex=669164c6&is=66901346&hm=139817e3416983603266da351357413c1e05270b0e2bd69fa953d7b2d5dfe745& [17:15:59] yeah [17:16:13] Did you import from Wikipedia [17:16:17] yes [17:16:27] i didnt want to but i had to [17:16:35] Why [17:16:50] no other places have that infobox [17:16:57] except places you can export from [17:17:03] like microwiki [17:17:51] You can make infoboxes [17:18:05] Once you have the base template or extension [17:18:08] another problem accured [17:18:15] occured [17:20:04] Personally, I would only import if i can understand the code, and can also manage the amount of templates it needs [17:20:28] i just want an infobox for this [17:20:33] but its hard for no reason [17:21:35]