[00:00:22] where is it [00:00:23] wait what's a watchlist? [00:01:19] ah nps [00:01:22] I'll edit that then [00:42:30] Where can I find the cat.svg file used for the default timeless backdrop? [00:43:46] uh, as in https://rainverse.wiki/1.41/skins/Timeless/resources/images/cat.svg?31aa0 right? [00:44:05] what's it supposed to be? i just see nothing [00:46:01] [1/3] It’s the default image with timeless theme and it’s a graphic of a cat [00:46:01] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261846128849195128/IMG_8027.png?ex=66947149&is=66931fc9&hm=8524d874e69cfd7b15bcdd71f8882957a08ee79b996a3ea624192b933cba6f4d& [00:46:02] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261846129092333670/IMG_8028.png?ex=66947149&is=66931fc9&hm=0b7d59f54baf004fef2b72814e7020b48dc051f7be9170503ea942fad51d6b14& [00:46:11] Dark mode for clarity [00:46:31] omg lmao [00:46:57] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/skins/Timeless/+/refs/heads/master/resources/images/cat.svg [00:47:25] [1/2] ok I was busy doing something, however it seems to almost work, it seems there's an issue either with the
/div that is meant to be around each image or there's spacing that's screwing it up (tbf I'm just spitballing lol) [00:47:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261846483372609567/image.png?ex=6694719d&is=6693201d&hm=2869f6f7bc84630b072791433d49a102c6ca2652956565b515d76f6479a23177& [00:48:09] are the extra “ intentional? [00:48:15] daddyjoof: are you doing something like {{Slideshow | sequence="random" | ...}? [00:48:21] (oops forgot an extra }) [00:48:24] LOL [00:48:27] there we go [00:48:30] it expects {{Slideshow | sequence=random | ...}} [00:48:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Slideshow_ [00:48:39] refer to my earlier comment [00:48:46] "I'm a bloody idiot" [00:48:57] sometimes it do be like that [00:49:12] it's 2am so it really do be lol [00:51:06] [1/2] ok yeah I just tried again and it's still like that seemingly [00:51:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261847406736314458/image.png?ex=66947279&is=669320f9&hm=07e5483a4e534d8596e2e1c1c7343ddf38769caff54e1429617d51c95613a06d& [00:51:19] [1/7] ```{{Slideshow [00:51:19] [2/7] |sequence=random [00:51:19] [3/7] |transition=fade [00:51:20] [4/7] |speed=1000 [00:51:20] [5/7] |1=NGSUIScratchNGSAccessoryRevivalJun24.jpg [00:51:20] [6/7] |2=NGSUIScratchSummerSkySeaside24.jpg [00:51:20] [7/7] }}``` [00:51:23] this being what I'm putting it [00:52:25] damn that's annoying [00:52:38] i was hoping that i could get away with lazy stuff [00:52:57] time to actually write good code lol [00:53:04] valid as hell tbh [00:53:53] i assume i can delete the pages on the public test wiki now? [00:54:27] yeah [00:54:32] you're good to go ahead [00:58:41] daddyjoof: try with https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Module:Slideshow [00:59:25] Works like a charm [00:59:32] yw [00:59:53] once again anyway, cheers for the help, saves a LOT of future hassle [01:00:16] i'm the queen destroyer of minor inconveniences [01:00:21] (pixldev's words, not mine) [01:01:44] lol [01:01:56] well keep doing what you're doing, good shit [06:18:31] a:sillydance: [06:19:02] a silly dance [06:20:42] Are you Moon from the youtube videos? [06:23:01] ? [06:24:00] The ones who always put an stinky sponsor ad... [06:24:14] ah, no, must de a coincidence. [06:25:01] I’m guessing emojis and stickers aren’t mirrored on irc? [06:25:14] i see a:sillydance: [06:25:24] Forgive me 😅 [06:25:24] That’s pretty interesting [06:25:36] custom emojis are converted to their :counterparts: [06:25:37] I haven’t been running any YouTube sponsor ads haha [06:25:48] i don't see any indication of stickers so i don't think they're bridged [06:26:12] Why "from the youtube videos" and not "the youtube channel" [06:26:41] Is the same. Anyone can understand both meanings. [06:26:47] No [06:26:53] Unless YT was not common. [06:27:50] Videos are much more vague than channel as there's much more Videos than channels [06:28:27] lol [07:27:47] There are two Moon channels on YT BTW. [07:28:22] One controversial, possibly alt-right and the other is a professional lawyer. [07:29:11] do they both have the same name? [07:29:32] Well the lawyer one is called Moon Channel, the other just Moon. [07:42:40] this problem exist again [07:43:31] cc @Trust and Safety [07:58:27] I’d like to clarify that I’m neither [08:03:52] Please email your report to ts@miraheze.org [08:15:14] @tedkalashnikov sorry for ping, but I noticed the phighting wiki changed their main page to domain root recently and I was wondering if you guys have experienced the issue with not being able to edit? We’re considering it with our wiki [08:18:49] mooncloud: i don't know who you pinged (well, i know you pinged tedkalashnikov, but i don't remember who they are), but there is an open phorge task about this: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12263 [08:19:04] there is a pull request open that, when merged, should fix it: https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5595 [08:26:42] I mainly wanted to see if they’d experienced it as well and how it’s been for them since our wikis both stem from Roblox games [11:04:58] Is there a tutorial video how to add a navigation menu on your home to show all the pages even if you need to set they links to the page and name [11:07:04] [1/2] any way i could achieve this same thing at the top of the image here on miraheze? [11:07:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262002420649689088/B8FKJpY.png?ex=669502d7&is=6693b157&hm=3f7fd6d65fe3da384c974bebafe63718311e37417a25b5bbed01d059f0ca036a& [11:08:41] [1/2] looks like a tabber [11:08:41] [2/2] [[mw:Extension:TabberNeue]] [11:08:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue [11:08:42] [11:11:11] [1/3] not sure what you mean [11:11:11] [2/3] I recall you're using Cosmos skin? the top navigation can be changed at `MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation` page; one `` is for headers, `*` is for actual links [11:11:11] [3/3] ot you want to have a list of all pages on the main page? [11:12:05] [1/2] here's an example of navigation/sidebar menu setup [11:12:06] [2/2] [11:22:57] Okay [11:25:34] did I answer question, or you meant something else? [11:30:14] U might helped me [12:04:49] is there a magic word to like display the number of pages in a category? [12:06:04] eatyourglory: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#PAGESINCATEGORY [12:06:04] there is, lemme check [12:06:25] thanks a lot! [12:06:29] yw [12:11:01] Is there any way for the article title to be different to the URL? [12:11:17] eatyourglory: the DISPLAYTITLE magic word [12:11:29] (you'll also need to change a config in Special:ManageWiki/settings) [12:11:43] something like "Restrict Display Title" or so [12:12:05] add flag in Allow displaytitle and remove flag from Restrict displaytitle [12:12:22] I still don't know why have these and why restrict is defaut [12:12:36] iirc allow and restrict is default [12:13:18] we often get users confused over these settings and it's always restricted at the beginning [12:13:27] even had phorge tasks over it [12:13:39] and there's displaytitle extension too lol [12:13:44] wait what? [12:14:15] oh [12:14:21] [1/2] so i gotta remove this? [12:14:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262019352878911498/IMG_9942.png?ex=6695129c&is=6693c11c&hm=2c8571e68b541e3e059689f13259376e3d403dc13bec583a770057ae0db94943& [12:14:28] yes [12:35:52] This is going to sound a bit silly but I have never made a wiki before and I want to have the menu sidebar visible to users who are not logged in. This must be easy but I have no idea how to do it. [12:36:40] The suggestions I found on Google made no sense to me. [12:37:32] Guest13: um, what's the menu sidebar :sweatsmile: [12:38:31] i'm assuming your wiki's UI looks more or less something like https://files.catbox.moe/o21r2k.png? [12:39:40] Mine looks like tiis at the moment. It's that contents list on the left that I'm missing. [12:39:50] https://sotaloraaprs.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [12:40:21] as in the table of contents? [12:40:33] Yes. [12:40:45] there "__NOTOC__" at the top of the page [12:40:47] there's* [12:41:26] That's in the HTML? How do I get rid of it for all users. [12:41:44] remove __NOTOC__ from the page's source [12:42:00] click Edit source button and just delete that portion [12:42:01] then save [12:43:07] Okay - not looking for the edit source button.. [12:43:11] ...now [12:43:36] it just says "Edit" in your case [12:44:03] my bad [12:44:10] https://files.catbox.moe/v0regc.png [12:46:15] Okay - got rid of that. Now I need to understand how to construct the TOC. Thanks for your help. [12:47:05] they are automatically generated when you use one or more "=" in a line [12:47:13] TOC is generated automatically when you create headers w/ = [12:47:20] e.g. "=== What's it all about? ===" [12:47:24] yeah [12:47:44] you're currently doing pseudo-headers with bold text (e.g. '''What's it all about''') [12:50:35] Ahhh. Thanks. [12:51:13] I will go back and add some = and see what happens. I assume that the TOC builds automatically. [12:51:29] yeah it does [12:57:53] Hmm. That works with text on the Main Page but if I add headings with ===heading=== on the other pages, they don't show up. [12:59:14] [1/2] well, thing is TOC is generated if there are more than 2? such headers [12:59:15] [2/2] you can force it to appear by adding TOC or FORCETOC in the code [12:59:25] __TOC__ or __FORCETOC__ [12:59:25] damn discord, very cool [12:59:36] i'm guessing that also got bridged as underscores to discord [12:59:41] yup [12:59:47] well they're underscores in irc, works well enough [13:00:00] see this page [13:06:47] Yeah but discord uses underscores as formatting for underlines [13:07:20] oops, i meant bridged as italics [13:07:35] i swear, sometimes my brain just subtitutes or forgets words and i don't know why [13:07:45] watch me being bad at fast reading lol [13:10:25] One underline is italics [13:10:29] Two is underlined [13:10:42] Okay. I can see that I can create a table of contents for a single page. What I cant see yet is how to produce a table of contents for the whole Wiki - one that lists each page. [13:12:59] there's a automated page, they are called special pages [13:13:12] for all pages there's Special:AllPages [13:14:04] you can find a link to by clicking Special pages somewhere in the sidebar, or by typing the name above in URL, after /wiki/ portion [13:14:27] .../wiki/Special:AllPages [13:18:32] Okay got that. [13:22:05] @theoneandonlylegroom how do i change the navigation to the pages [13:22:32] what exactly do you mean? [13:23:54] [1/5] This is how it is how do i change them how they work to pinpoint to a page like recent changes to staff for example [13:23:54] [2/5] ``` mainpage|mainpage-description [13:23:54] [3/5] recentchanges-url|recentchanges [13:23:55] [4/5] randompage-url|randompage [13:23:55] [5/5] helppage|help-mediawiki``` [13:27:06] name of the page|visible name if you want it to be different [13:27:13] | is divider [13:27:30] can be just Staff if you want to keep the same name [13:35:10] > [14/07/2024 23:10] One underline is italics [13:35:20] okay for some god damn reason my brain thought italics = underline?? [13:35:40] Huh [13:35:47] like it conflated the words [13:36:00] [1/2] _italtics_ [13:36:00] [2/2] underline! [13:37:27] italics is formatted like `_this_`, underlines are formatted like `this` [13:37:37] Ja [13:37:42] amazing, italics isn't sent to the irc side formatted [13:37:51] but it seems like italics can also be formatted like `this` [13:37:58] That comes back formatted [13:37:59] Yeah [13:38:04] I normally use * [13:38:10] @pixldev where are u from [13:38:16] strange, i didn't know that honestly LOL [13:38:22] markdown do be like that [13:38:29] Huh? [13:38:31] Why [13:38:43] Can u speak another language [13:38:49] Why [13:38:56] because u might just spoken my language [13:39:42] here [13:40:18] Oh [13:40:31] No I’m not German/Dutch. I use ja as a habit [13:40:43] I do speak another language but not that [13:40:53] it is dutch but also afrikaans [13:41:18] German as well I believe [13:41:25] idk [13:41:35] so u cant speak that language [13:42:28] No [13:42:36] I know a few German words [13:42:52] And yelling at people in translated German is very funny [13:42:53] It's quite common to speak words from languages you can't speak [13:43:33] question i can edit explore but not navigation i want to edit navigation [13:43:36] Especially French since we steal from them a little t [13:43:41] Lot* [13:47:14] I'm thinking that users who are not logged in can't see the sidebar? [13:47:34] SEX [13:47:44] Mirahezephobing [13:47:51] GNUphobing [13:48:27] What [13:48:45] ‮ [13:48:50] Another person thinking they're funny [13:48:55] [1/2] why? you can check by yourself in incognito mode [13:48:55] [2/2] also there's a toolbar, a bit different from usual sidebar [13:49:00] ass‮fo [13:49:31] ‮xes [13:49:38] sex‮ [13:49:49] sex‮xes [13:49:55] I have logged out and the sidebar disappears. [13:50:34] banned [13:51:39] if it's default skin (Vector 2022) it's just hidden, there's a button in top left corner [13:52:10] okay [13:52:34] Thanks mate [13:52:48] [1/2] users supposed to like, have preferred layout in this skin [13:52:49] [2/2] other popular skins are more solid [13:53:21] like legacy Vector was a wiki layout standard for a long time, and Monobook was before it [13:54:13] Okay so found the menu incognito. I can't imagine that many users will do so though. What skin do you recommend and how to change it? [13:54:42] For all users the default skin can be set in Special:ManageWiki/settings [13:54:44] lol [13:54:55] in the styling menu [13:55:12] ؀؀؀؀ [13:55:25] Another troll again? [13:55:33] Or same? [13:55:46] I think it's the same [13:55:54] the skin must already be enabled for it to be set that way, so if you want cosmos for example (a popular choice, resembling the older fandom layout) it must first be enabled through Special:ManageWiki/extensions [13:55:57] he got a new IP to continue banning [13:56:08] s/banning/trolling [13:56:35] but many are defaults including vector2010 and monobook [13:57:14] I'd perhaps try out a couple in your own preferences and see how they feel before changing the wiki as a whole; that will get you a personal idea and you will get feedback faster as managewiki can take a hot minute to update [13:57:21] sario: we need some help here with a troll changing IPs to evade bans [13:57:31] I have no irc capabilities I'm afraid [13:57:51] is macfan around? [13:57:53] We may wanna rethink the irc ops structure [13:57:58] I'm a IRC op raidarr [13:58:01] o [13:58:09] you're it from the looks of it [13:58:24] maybe we need an rfc to convert irc to matrix [13:59:30] What [14:00:40] Okay Cosmos extension enabled. Special:ManageWiki/settings doesn't have anything to change a skin afaics [14:01:12] go to Styling tab, it's right in the first setting [14:01:15] can anyone help me [14:01:16] called Default skin [14:03:19] @reception123 hey, sorry if I’m bothering you but I just thought I’d let you know that since you’re handling wiki import requests on phorge, chinafake.miraheze.org is ready for import (ik you were confused about that earlier) [14:03:23] 👍 [14:04:24] Also put this in the task I’d you haven’t already [14:04:27] Oh never mind [14:04:31] Hi. If you could remind me again in a few hours that'd be great [14:05:10] can someone remind me how can I add a line break in AWB replace oprtions? :ThinkerMH: [14:05:34] Ok, awesome. How many hours exactly? [14:05:48] !remindme 4h remind @reception123 https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1262046776580374578 [14:05:55] I’m assuming 4 [14:06:07] cool [14:06:15] Can someone help me [14:06:39] question i can edit explore but not navigation i want to edit navigation [14:06:59] Cosmos looks a lot better - and the navigation is now clear! [14:07:10] Thanks for your help. [14:07:19] [1/2] edit this part? [14:07:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262047782366220338/2024-07-14_17_07_06.png?ex=66952d17&is=6693db97&hm=cc1442c9f581a3c2d1db48274e153aa0367d39e1bb9c1d851b5cd648f9dc5770& [14:07:21] Time for a glass os wine I think. [14:07:32] i cant [14:08:03] hmm [14:08:07] [1/14] this is what it shows on the page [14:08:08] [2/14] ``` navigation [14:08:08] [3/14] mainpage|mainpage-description [14:08:08] [4/14] recentchanges-url|recentchanges [14:08:09] [5/14] randompage-url|randompage [14:08:09] [6/14] helppage|help-mediawiki [14:08:09] [7/14] SEARCH [14:08:09] [8/14] TOOLBOX [14:08:10] [9/14] LANGUAGES [14:08:10] [10/14] cosmos-explore [14:08:10] [11/14] staff|Staff [14:08:11] [12/14] randompage-url|randompage [14:08:11] [13/14] Special:NewFiles|cosmos-newfiles [14:08:12] [14/14] {$NEWVIDEOS_CONDITIONAL} {$WANTEDPAGES_CONDITIONAL} ``` [14:08:13] but [14:08:17] when i press edit [14:08:24] it's `{{int:Sidebar}}` in editor [14:08:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/int:Template:Sidebar [14:08:33] I actualy haven't seen that before [14:08:39] [1/8] ```{{int:Sidebar}} [14:08:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/int:Template:Sidebar [14:08:39] [2/8] *cosmos-explore [14:08:40] [3/8] staff|Staff [14:08:40] [4/8] randompage-url|randompage [14:08:40] [5/8] Special:NewFiles|cosmos-newfiles [14:08:40] [6/8] {$NEWVIDEOS_CONDITIONAL} [14:08:41] [7/8] {$WANTEDPAGES_CONDITIONAL} [14:08:41] [8/8] ``` [14:09:30] how do i got the sidebar then [14:09:32] I guess you can just delete `{{int:Sidebar}}` and type normal sidebar entry instead [14:09:32] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/int:Template:Sidebar [14:09:50] must i rather wait for staff legroom [14:10:03] staff? there's no staff on Miraheze [14:10:28] who is @Discord Moderators then [14:10:32] lol [14:10:41] sorry for the ping [14:10:41] We have “staff” [14:10:47] [1/2] this is what we have in normal MediaWiki:Sidebar [14:10:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262048655389626388/2024-07-14_17_09_12.png?ex=66952de7&is=6693dc67&hm=84997e278f97c020bb546db6bfc709462baa34ac54127f5abfb098a6a22a3ee8& [14:10:54] In the sense of people who use their time to run the site [14:11:03] you can type whatever you need [14:11:06] SORRY GUYS [14:11:06] We don’t have “staff” in the sense of being paid [14:11:12] I just run with staff because it's the common term and not inapplicable, it's just that our staff are generally elected volunteers [14:11:15] Yeah [14:11:26] So i can also be staff [14:11:28] if i ask [14:11:29] Ie on minecraft server I work with, everyone calls them staff [14:11:29] there have been efforts to distance from the term but ultimately I think it's confusing [14:11:36] run for a role and succeed and you may acquire a role [14:11:37] Most of our roles are elected [14:11:49] All of mine are for example [14:11:52] I used to be mediawiki helper i.e. having orange name role [14:11:57] Tech is the only exception I can think of [14:12:05] Do you wish to be cursed with orange [14:12:06] I pactically still do the same thing now, w/o roles [14:12:12] not yet lol [14:12:13] you need to be well established and have a strong record in order to succeed in elections for most roles [14:12:30] or have the necessary skills and trust for the non elected roles, primarily tech and trust and safety [14:12:35] or the board for that matter [14:12:39] i dont want to be staff but it would've been nice to be partners with giantess dimension and mirahexe [14:12:52] miraheze as a rule generally does not partner with its own wikis [14:13:06] you are hosted by Miraheze already so [14:13:10] in fact I don't think miraheze has properly partnered with anything [14:13:16] it hasn't gone well in the attempts that were made [14:13:28] WikiTide: am I a joke to you [14:13:30] you are of course welcome to stop by [14:13:37] wikitide straight merged in and took over [14:13:41] i can maybe post a link to this discord server on my server and maybe the website [14:13:44] yeah just /j [14:13:55] that is how i make partners [14:13:57] #server-invites at your convenience for the server [14:13:58] We are all secretly WikiTide [14:13:59] to help them [14:14:05] #server-invites [14:14:14] if you want to link back to miraheze we'd appreciate [14:14:21] We don’t have an affiliation or endorsement system currently [14:14:32] May be interesting eventually if lots of big wikis move here [14:14:44] you could also try your luck at the [[gazetteer of wikis]] but I don't think that page is particularly useful [14:14:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/gazetteer_of_wikis [14:14:47] so can we maybe check for partners in the future [14:14:54] [14:15:03] I don't think you should look at miraheze as a platform in terms of partnership [14:15:11] why not [14:15:11] 💯 [14:15:14] We just [14:15:16] as a host we of course like to offer tools for wikis to promote themselves [14:15:17] Don’t do that [14:15:31] Orange_Star: mind a PM? [14:15:33] it just doesn't work like that [14:15:38] although ultimately it is the community's responsibility to reach its audience through the people interested in that community [14:15:38] We are a non profit host we don’t officially endorse wikis currently beyond our official ones [14:15:39] sure [14:15:43] Ie meta dev commons [14:15:55] so i may advertise my server but it is a nsfw server i can maybe add a disclaimer it is a 18+ server [14:16:03] is that allowed [14:16:06] a disclaimer would be much appreciated [14:16:13] Yes [14:16:33] now that I think of it I've done antivandalism at giantess more than once [14:16:46] Additionally, you are highly encouraged to refer to the term’s associated with NSFW wikis in our [[Content Policy]] if you haven’t already [14:16:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [14:16:47] [14:16:52] Wait [14:17:09] Is it CoPol that had the stuff about when should be blurred ect [14:17:19] is this okay https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1001373934874284112/1262050206409556008 [14:17:21] I thought it is but may be confused [14:17:21] giantess wiki has been around since... maybe before I started [14:17:37] staff [14:17:43] Mmmmmm [14:17:47] I’ll leave it to raidarr [14:17:53] as long as the server is associated with the wiki [14:17:59] I’m not a huge fan of the banner personally [14:18:05] sorry [14:18:22] can i get a link to the discord server [14:18:26] it's not terrible imo but something with more discretion wouldn't hurt [14:18:29] a permanent discord link [14:18:35] everyone should be able to make permalinks I thought [14:18:35] https://miraheze.org/discord [14:18:37] that's another wiki you think about, probably, Elsie's is single MC server specific [14:18:42] oooh [14:18:56] so @giantesselsie, do you have a wiki on miraheze then? [14:19:04] she does [14:19:08] yes [14:19:09] a he [14:19:14] i will reveal my gender [14:19:16] so as long as that wiki links up with the discord that's fine [14:19:29] https://wiki.giantesselsie.net [14:19:36] there raidar [14:19:44] ^ a nsfw wiki, for the discretion of other viewers [14:20:01] yeah I was confusing it with an actual wiki called giantess [14:20:16] different but also nsfw in scope [14:20:17] wdym [14:20:29] the logo is not nsfw [14:20:31] don't mind me [14:20:38] yeah the icon is fine [14:20:38] XD [14:20:53] Also why are u invisible [14:21:01] The icon is fine yea just off putting to some you may say [14:21:05] don't let mojang see it, I know they go after nsfw minecraft communities [14:21:12] ik [14:21:23] Wait they do? [14:21:24] It does kinda assist I. The indication of it being an NSFW site OG [14:21:37] can i be honest [14:21:49] I use invisible because I'm in too many places, my activity is too sporadic and I can't manage the online status reliably enough [14:21:50] mojang is slowly making minecraft nsfw [14:21:56] Somehow I doubt that [14:22:01] yeeeeah [14:22:12] I don't think microsoft would humor that even if they wanted it [14:22:18] they want to add a gender option to minecraft [14:22:19] Yea [14:22:21] getting offtopic [14:22:29] anyway, question ... [14:22:33] yes, I'd proceed with off topic in discussing the trajectory of minecraft [14:22:40] #offtopic specifically [14:22:43] [[wp:CN]] [14:22:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wp:CN [14:22:48] [14:23:00] huh [14:23:04] Damned disambig [14:23:05] I've created flooder user group and gave it bot flag but it doesn't seem to work, still appear in RC :ThinkerMH: [14:23:14] That’s supposed to refer to citation needed [14:23:21] Anyways off topic [14:23:27] did you give the group to the bot? [14:23:29] so staff how can i edit navigation legroom showed me a code [14:23:49] to, added to myself, I'm about to make a lot of small edit w/ AWB [14:24:53] [1/2] yes you can, it's not that important as you think [14:24:53] [2/2] you might risk only if you poke around user group settings [14:25:26] gib link [14:25:48] [14:26:34] to be precise, the PC is bridget to discord server so uh, yeah [14:27:11] made 3 AWB edits for a test and the appear [14:27:33] are you using bot passwords? [14:27:40] or OAuth with AWB? [14:28:00] just as myself :ThinkerMH: [14:28:06] I don't have bots [14:28:42] I mean, I couldn't figure out the first and just slapped bot group on myself (then removed) [14:28:54] * the first time, months ago [14:30:56] do you show up in RC if you edit normally without AWB? [14:31:43] how do i edit {{int:Sidebar}} [14:31:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/int:Template:Sidebar [14:33:30] you don't just delete it and make the code you want, replicating it, like on screenshot I showed before [14:34:01] lemme try [14:34:08] so i can remove naivgation then only explore will show [14:35:33] [1/2] yeah, nothing happened [14:35:33] [2/2] should I try to log out and log in again in AWB? [14:35:56] shouldn't be needed but feel free to try [14:36:12] hmmm [14:36:25] yes [14:37:07] [1/7] so i must just do it like this [14:37:07] [2/7] ```*cosmos-explore [14:37:07] [3/7] staff|Staff [14:37:07] [4/7] tutorials|Tutorials [14:37:08] [5/7] Special:NewFiles|cosmos-newfiles [14:37:08] [6/7] {$NEWVIDEOS_CONDITIONAL} [14:37:08] [7/7] {$WANTEDPAGES_CONDITIONAL}``` [14:37:15] and remove int:sidebar [14:38:39] [1/2] 😳 [14:38:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262055665652731956/2024-07-14_17_38_03.png?ex=6695346e&is=6693e2ee&hm=a3200faf42be1a8da4e67c7be1e3d3e31cc9e4750956796cad1420faa550f90f& [14:38:47] @theoneandonlylegroom [14:39:20] please do not ping me [14:39:36] as you might see, I currently work on my own wiki [14:39:52] and yes, just like that, on your screenshot [14:40:33] 😳 moment indeed [14:41:18] try closing and opening AWB maybe? [14:41:53] nope, same shit [14:42:55] [1/2] I'll try to remove group from myself [14:42:56] [2/2] and maybe will try to give bot to an alt I had for testing unconfirmed email [14:47:02] wait wait [14:47:18] I did something stupid [14:47:39] I left http:// option when choosing my wiki ... [14:48:24] I see [14:48:32] idk if it's the reason [14:48:38] I'll try to meddle w/ alt [14:48:57] In that case AWB was probably getting redirected to https:// and freaking out [14:49:12] I bet we do a 301 [14:49:14] I think [14:49:25] 301 turns a post to a get [14:50:05] I haven't requested 301 for gogiganticwiki tho, I submitted it to google right w/ custom domain [14:50:16] this is a different kind of 301 [14:50:21] ah, my bad [14:50:25] np [14:50:28] does it take a while to update the wiki [14:51:02] like there should be 2 pages names now there is 1 if i do private window and navigation still shows [14:53:28] If you a http:// you'll get a 301 to https://, we don't serve insecure versions of the site [14:53:45] wdym [14:53:50] We only serve HTTPS with TLS 1.2 or 1.3 [14:54:10] Talking to @theoneandonlylegroom [14:54:22] @rhinosf1 but what if someone with IE6 wants to browse the wiki? [14:54:30] They don't [14:54:45] We don't support IE other than IE11 [14:54:51] there is no excuse when even retro potatoes can run things like palemoon or even the latest with some effort [14:54:58] I think 1.42 drops IE11 [14:55:05] If not 1.43 does [14:55:36] Many things are cached to some degree [14:55:51] Is there ES6 support finally on the JS minimizer? [14:55:53] giving it a few minutes when making wiki config changes is a good bet [14:56:24] Not sure [14:57:36] I don't see anything about Internet Explorer or ES6 on the release notes for 1.42 [14:58:33] welp, hopefully it will come in 1.43 [15:01:11] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178356 [15:03:28] so how do i become staff then [15:05:56] [1/2] we have discussed this [15:05:57] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1262048861128757291 [15:06:17] I would not recommend you do it until you become more involved in the miraheze community and have a stronger understanding of how it works [15:06:23] both here and on miraheze meta [15:09:00] this might sound blunt, but you gotta know a lot about wiki things to even propose yourself to some role, and in reality - you are still learning [15:15:16] well, I guess it was permission settings not aligning w/ AWB when already logged in, alt w/ flooder group doesn't appear in RC now [15:18:42] [1/2] how I'm supposed to nerf this white background :ThinkerMH: [15:18:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262065747635732600/2024-07-14_18_17_50.png?ex=66953dd2&is=6693ec52&hm=f985731e47d2900f8a46c95830c35422ded8f50b6aaefdbe619f9da3b68f98a9& [15:21:53] animation name none mebbe [15:23:33] :ThinkerMH: [15:23:55] is there a way to export all files from wiki? [15:24:05] Some, why? [15:24:55] what a charming nickname [15:24:59] need them on my device [15:25:16] glad you got the meaning of it [15:25:28] but ill better change it [15:25:42] iirc file dump can be generated only by stewards rn? [15:25:49] and it's gonna be an archive file [15:26:01] ah, k, got it [15:26:13] you can request [15:26:24] it will be faster to download em manually [15:27:25] How many is it [15:28:09] about 50 files [15:28:18] Hm [15:28:56] Can't @WikiBot do it [15:31:20] It can [15:31:28] It’ll be public on archive.org [15:31:38] If your fine with that I can see bout doing it [15:31:41] Gonna be busy [15:32:22] nah [15:44:25] I have a worldbuilding wiki that is private and which I write on for my own pleasure. [15:49:17] Is it against content policy to have pages with erotic stories and sci-fi metrics, events, objects, and actions? [15:50:44] NSFW content allowed but should have a disclaimer, images hidden or blured by default, and not presented on main page of the wiki [15:51:30] for full info read [[Content Policy]] [15:51:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [15:51:31] [15:56:49] My NSFW content is mostly for erotic purposes. [15:57:12] Doesn't that make it porn? [16:02:54] [1/2] if you are talking about file host clause, you aren't dumping gigabytes of images, so [16:02:54] [2/2] there are wikis dedicated to adult oriented games and have sexual content in text form [16:11:48] @metal_pail, would you mind if I message you with a translation-related request for the chinese language? only if around/handy, not super time sensitive [16:32:35] Where do I ask for an update to an extension? (Citizen skin) [17:29:53] Just a quick question, is there a way to hide the ManageWiki links in the sidebar? I would like to add my own links with shorter text. [17:31:17] Tried editing MediaWiki:Sidebar? [17:32:24] its not like visitors will see those links anyway [17:34:35] display:none the managewiki entries, groupssidebar or dynamic sidebar to add new ones visible to the bureaucrat group [17:35:31] on vector the none applies to `#p-managewiki-sidebar-header` but naturally this will vary by skin [17:36:00] the behavior may differ for skins like cosmos but I'm fairly sure the idea is compatible [17:41:39] [1/4] you can have your own custom sidebar w/ [[mw:Extension:DynamicSidebar]] [17:41:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicSidebar [17:41:40] [2/4] this is mine, for example, + I gave smaller font to ManageWiki links in user timeless.css [17:41:40] [3/4] [17:41:40] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262101722999029911/2024-07-14_20_39_57.png?ex=66955f53&is=66940dd3&hm=9ef76376f9bee216ea0883f3a4932a2257853e482ca283de6d90ee7ae0fec3c2& [17:41:41] [17:42:24] + I made normal sidebar collapsed for myself lol [17:42:38] dynamicsidebar is excellent [17:43:04] I'm thinking of enabling it for all the core miraheze wikis in extension to a revamp I'm doing on volunteer wikis [17:47:00] Yes, I know but I am doing some sidebar changes in Citizen skin and I can't seem to control the placement of the Managewiki links. [17:48:17] @raidarr @theoneandonlylegroom Thanks for suggestions, I shall look into options, thanks 👍 [17:49:19] might take some trial and error to go my route in citizen [17:51:21] [1/2] The only solution is how to make the ToC of each page be placed on the side on Timeless skin, just like Vector does. [17:51:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262104160720126002/Screenshot_20240714_125025_Brave.jpg?ex=66956198&is=66941018&hm=c56e8829bd83a99e9c899464eab1516b7c1705fde57f4c25240f39749124458e& [18:06:32] @reception123 reminder! [18:19:21] weve had zero issues with the change - all /wiki/ links redirect back to / and the software handles it perfectly [18:20:21] Awesome, that’s great to hear mate! [18:22:52] yeah the only issue i had was with my own javascript i wrote LOL [18:22:58] otherwise noones reported anything [18:23:48] Noted for next time someone asks me [18:24:29] Worked in Citizen too, thanks. [18:24:36] excellent [18:25:17] Oh! Did ExternalData ever start cooperating? [18:25:33] Using this has enabled me to put the Managewiki links exactly where I want them, thanks. [18:25:40] ill check soon but i dont think so [18:26:03] drat [18:26:22] im wondering if its an issue on our end or boblox [18:27:23] roblox appears to be fine now, it just seems like MW queries the api inhumanely fast and its not throttled based on the docs for rhe extension [18:27:32] i have to ask for it be configured but i dont know how or where [18:27:32] Hm [18:28:19] Open a phorge task and add the configuration tag. Feel free to add my personal PixDeVl task ill see bout doing it on like Tuesday if no one else does [18:28:38] okay, ill have to figure out what the config actually wants [18:28:47] Aight [18:28:54] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:External_Data/Throttling_data_retrievals [18:29:08] ill go back to indoctrinating myself with the docs on CVT wiki [18:29:11] >> throttle interval is a float holding the minimal interval, in seconds, between calls to web services or server-side programs with the same throttle key. [18:29:18] Global Admin is gonna take some getting used to [18:29:26] its in seconds so.. 0.2s maybe?? [18:30:17] and congrats btw!! [18:30:25] does it recommend a value? [18:30:30] nope [18:30:31] :nomChocoStrawberry: ty [18:30:40] 200ms is standard on some other apis i use [18:30:43] but idk [18:31:12] my name is still the same color here because of moderator but on the volunteer discord im purple and it looks very odd [18:31:19] porple [18:31:56] Urple [18:32:17] [1/2] on wiki gold using wakis very cool mark global groups gadget [18:32:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262114463331520614/image.png?ex=66956b31&is=669419b1&hm=478d5a502e2a94bda49c0ecf42d16b375e6e62f344e48e69a1799d5bd62112a2& [18:32:22] ooo [18:32:24] nice [18:32:45] why did the moana shiny song start playing in my head [18:32:46] sorry im just like grr at this because i cant just change the interval for myself afaik so i cant possibly test it [18:33:23] understandable [18:33:40] I can’t really edit rn since i wont be on pc til Tuesday [18:33:42] actually [18:33:46] after you make the task [18:33:54] i could try to edit on mobile [18:34:02] will not be pleasant [18:34:04] but hey [18:34:18] its alright i just need to figure out what to ask fot [18:34:20] for* [18:35:17] [1/2] ok I think I'm doing something wrong, all my tables have like, loaded from the bottom instead of from the top making it look uniform, but in like the complete opposite whay I want lol [18:35:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262115220172574810/image.png?ex=66956be5&is=66941a65&hm=bd157b1bfe459dda1c043e0cbe3ab210ffb09e0f664ae606181251fa6014f9fb& [18:35:30] ideally they'd all load from the top [18:42:21] [1/5] ``` [18:42:21] [2/5]
[18:42:21] [3/5] /div [18:42:22] [4/5] ``` [18:42:22] [5/5] around the whole thing? [18:42:30] I'll try that [18:45:34] slick it's working properly now [18:45:37] cheers for the help [19:05:58] [1/2] is there anyway to get the miraheze favicon to update? [19:05:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262122940905029756/image.png?ex=66957316&is=66942196&hm=fba0dc07624a71a533fdff19f70a099ba74215c88efe9c284dbce4755bc624b0& [19:08:05] You can edit the favicon in ManageWiki [19:08:18] Google will notice in any time between a few minutes and a few decades [19:09:36] the favicon has been changed for a while and hasn't updated [19:15:24] Ye no one understands how google works [19:36:33] I'm not sure google knows how google works anymore [19:38:45] google has no idea how google works [19:57:14] Does anybody knows if MultimediaViewer works on Timeless skin? [20:09:22] MultimediaViewer should be skin independent. [20:09:30] _should_ [20:13:32] So... it doesn't? [20:15:24] it does [20:15:29] work [20:16:07] [20:17:29] Skin independent means that it is not reliant on a skin to work [20:23:34] hi [20:25:24] ‮ [20:25:53] ‮؝؝؝؝ [20:25:55] ؝ [20:25:56] ؝ [20:25:57] ؝ [20:26:01] arab [20:26:04] anal [20:26:15] erotic toy windows 10 2h22 [20:26:19] doom [20:26:44] @Technology Team can someone smite [20:26:53] MiraHezePhobing [20:26:59] Mirahezephobing [20:27:01] ؝ [20:27:09] sigh [20:27:13] arab ؝ arab iphone free fake [20:27:24] https://pornhub.com [20:28:34] @Discord Moderators noting ive muted the relay for an hour, plz unmute once the IRC user is blocked [20:28:47] note for people or tech on IRC that messages wont relay [20:29:04] so if you ban please tell us on discord [20:29:10] mr troll man [20:29:19] please find something better to do [20:30:30] apologies to any people on IRC, if you wanna ask a question id recommend trying again in a bit ~_~ [20:31:12] @notaracham actually do you have ops on irc? [20:31:19] everytime i have to write a table i sigh heavily and google the mediawiki table guide lol [20:31:41] It took longer then i care to admit to start writing them in source myself [20:31:52] hahaha [20:32:03] i found that the wikitext notation is actually way more flexible and usable than the html equivalent [20:32:03] I still just make 'em in viz first then switch to source. [20:32:05] Faster [20:32:32] Where did you guys submit the request? [20:32:34] it is ... unless you are making a template w/ table ... [20:32:53] its this i think https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Restricted_changes [20:32:58] yup [20:34:28] Thank you! [20:36:36] np! [20:46:53] Hi Everyone, Could Miraheze be a suitable place to host a Wiki for a custom 3d printer community? its very crowd sourced at the moment [20:49:06] Are there any particular reasons that you think it may not be suitable? [20:49:29] Nope, just will be very "alpha" content [20:51:31] That would be the only concern, can the wiki space be backed up occasionally? [20:52:16] Absolutely! [20:52:31] (just seen there is a wiki page on backups, I dont know what I expected ha) [20:52:35] Heck, I request a wiki related to 3D printing myself [20:53:03] We have backup policies in tech yes [20:53:13] You can always back it up yourself [20:55:05] That’s totally fine as well [20:55:15] just look at my own wikis 😢 [20:58:40] [1/3] How would I center this for the cosmos skin? [20:58:40] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262151301890969630/image.png?ex=66958d80&is=66943c00&hm=2d4062a163c9d5bf8993b049334362fb9f40556d5cb80e5a3ed5f044b4e1e8b7& [20:58:41] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262151302230835301/image.png?ex=66958d80&is=66943c00&hm=e524d0d90333a8c783b9645ed51d6210cc3b83ced9a0c9ca484b747f30b7bc64& [21:00:01] and also to make the quote text bigger if possible, not by a lot but maybe like, 10-15px [21:00:18] not the origin of the quote text, just the quote itself [21:00:56] center what exactly? the box itself? [21:01:23] also it doesn't matter which skin you are using, such things generaly dictated by CSS [21:01:48] The text for the quote [21:01:57] it's very far up in reference to the quotation marks [21:02:12] and the quotation marks themselves feel a bit off-center, too [21:02:34] they basically just feel a bit too far up [21:02:34] I suppose it's Fandom's default template [21:03:12] Yeah... so how would I go about fixing it? [21:23:51] Are the requirements for requesting cirrussearch at https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1203229472510320721 still applicable? Was wondering since I’ve seen a few wikis that don’t meet the requirement and have it enabled [21:27:47] ugghh i hate SEO, after telling google to remove the old url, and telling it to move it to the new domain.. it still shows the old one instead of the new one when i google "xxx wiki" xD [21:39:46] no wonder, i thought 301 redirect was optinol... but it clearly seens its needed, damn my reading skills [22:10:26] At this point no, that was during initial ramp-up phase. [22:11:31] At least based on one-off discussions w/ tech folks, the impact is fine for wikis that aren't absolute high-traffic content monsters. [22:45:55] guys... [22:46:40] Long ago, I recalled some of you gave me a code specifically after I changed to timeless skin. [22:48:12] It was a code to place ToC on the left, just like Vector 2022 skin does. [23:38:13] i.. think that i cant update my front page LOL [23:38:16] its not letting me update it [23:38:25] probably bc the url is literally i think this is what someone was asking me abt earlier [23:40:45] https://gyazo.com/9003286e29c1f2afb25fdc98e64bcab6 help [23:43:51] update: i could edit it through AWB [23:43:52] this is very funny [23:44:57] aoakdjfnwib because it uses the API [23:45:09] so i guess there is one issue with the / root path and its u cant edit your main page. LOL [23:45:16] I thought this was patched(CC BlankEclair) [23:45:20] there was a task on this [23:45:28] i saw the task but it hasnt been merged has it [23:45:35] Oh [23:45:48] @Technology Team could someone check that PR? [23:48:28] The PR that was done defeats the entire purpose of the file is why I didn't merge it yet. There is a better way to fix I think. [23:51:20] Wait maybe I am wrong. Sorry just woke up. I will look [23:53:06] What is the PR and/or task? [23:55:04] nvm found it [23:55:08] will merge [23:55:10] sorry [23:55:33] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5595#event-13499011165