[00:41:30] im guessing its another part of mediawiki spazzing out but [00:41:45] try doing "width:#%;" [00:41:51] for the widths [00:42:02] # is the number var ofc [04:20:14] does anyone know a good alternative to Extension:RandomImage? i've been wanting to do smthn else for a bit but i keep putting it off [04:33:16] Is there a way to make the default theme dark mode for timeless skin? [04:47:10] cynicalsix: if you have a set list of images to pick then you probably could use scribunto/lua for it [05:00:58] 🤔 [05:02:53] our wiki kinda has something similar for random quotes: https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Template:RandomQuotes [05:16:26] Unfortunately randomImage and most other solutions don't play well with our aggressive caching solution. Great for keeping hosting costs down, bad for allowing dynamic content. [05:17:03] depends on how random you want them to be [05:17:15] random every refresh? nah (unless you use javascript, but rip non-js users) [05:17:22] occasionally random or don't really care about cycles? sure [05:17:55] Absolutely. BTW, pix and a few tech folks were trying to reach out a few hours back, were you able to connect? [05:18:06] reach out to me? [05:18:23] I think so? Don't have context sadly. [05:18:23] and connect to what? [05:18:55] Something something github merge is what covid fog is allowing me to recall [05:19:10] oh damn second person i know affected by covid on miraheze [05:19:22] It's viral, y'all. [05:19:33] i connected today on 17/07/2024 14:16 UTC+10 [05:20:12] anecdotally like, 1 in 5 folks I know have caught it recently over here in the PNW. This variant gives no shits about your vaccination status, though it does make your time less gnarly. [05:20:34] Anyway, I'm off-topic now [05:20:57] [1/2] yeah randomimage technically works fine, displays a new picture when cahce reload. [05:20:57] [2/2] it just has poor formatting and doesnt function well with some redesign things so ive wanted an alternative. ill take a look at the randomquote hope i can learn skmthn frm it! [05:21:03] the two most recent PRs i made has no comments so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [05:21:33] [1/2] horrid formatting i hate the thumbs so much but you cant disable it rahhh [05:21:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263002631341867069/image.png?ex=6698a65c&is=669754dc&hm=25394bbc7416431b7acd70e64afc502b21ed1e6c05ded1d03cd7180ac7379946& [05:21:50] as in the gray border? [05:22:55] yeah [05:23:09] i'm tempted to try to hide them somehow [05:23:21] if you want me to then gimme an example page [05:24:12] https://loreverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:RandomEK [05:25:50] yeah a more proper fix is to patch the extension [05:26:05] or to use something else entirely [05:29:47] yeahh lol its long abandoned itself [05:30:10] yeah i'd try a hand on submitting a patch if it weren't unmaintained [05:33:08] Why the thumbnail padding is so thick in there? how to reduce it a bit? [05:34:29] [1/2] nope [05:34:29] [2/2] unless you'll make custom styling dark by itself, darkmode will try to make it light lol [06:04:19] tinkering with the code here, is there any way to have a different .json pulled for each template instance or would i just need to make duplicate modules [06:45:53] `id` can be used for as anchor for `#` links? [06:46:06] instead of headings [06:51:29] cynicalsix: it doesn't need to be a json btw [06:51:49] uhoh i'm disconnected from the world [06:51:57] cynicalsix: it doesn't need to be a json btw [06:51:59] you could also hook it up to use template parameters [06:53:34] ooh [06:54:55] something similar to getting stuff from parameters: https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Module:Slideshow [06:55:04] (why did i say "similar", it does exactly that) [08:53:50] fellas, licensing question [08:54:22] I'm about to upload very old and rare game screenshots which were originally posted on a gaming website [08:54:53] ianal but wouldn't the image be copyrighted by the company that created the game? [08:55:16] yeah that's what I thought [08:55:54] fair use cus copyrighted but source point toward that site - this would be enough? [08:56:22] man, they're so jpeg too 🫠 [08:56:37] while majority of files are png [08:56:38] hmm, perhaps specify both where it was retrieved (the gaming site), what game it is, and who made it (the company) [08:56:48] mmm yummy i wanna eat crunchy jpegs [08:56:54] I mean, the wiki is entirely about that game lol [08:57:04] copyrights and disclaimer pages filled up [08:57:18] i feel like the site would be enough [08:57:24] the latter two are for extra sourcing points i guess [09:27:48] [1/4] for our IRC users: [09:27:48] [2/4] We've confirmed the existence of backups, so we're now ready for the upgrade. [09:27:49] [3/4] Your wikis will not go down during the upgrade, you will be able to keep using it, however MediaWiki may throw exceptions while we run the necessary database patches and maintenance scripts through all wikis. [09:27:49] [4/4] We will let you know when the upgrade has finished and things are stable again. We expect it to take quite a bit of time, 2 hours or more, since part of the upgrade involves migrating on-wiki blocks from the ipblocks table in the database to two new tables, block and block_target, on every wiki. [09:29:10] Yey @bluemoon0332 [09:29:25] wait when it starts? [09:29:31] in 30 mins more or less [09:29:32] Let me know when you've done the files and I can purge cloudflare @bluemoon0332 [09:29:47] ah shet, gotta save me edits [09:30:08] huh, wikis still being up? neat [09:30:10] (and thanks) [09:30:19] they'll be up [09:30:29] how stable until we apply SQL and maint scripts, who knows [09:31:16] Let's hope https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/commit/6e6afd08b3086d203c9e5c058b2ff1aaa6a13407 was correct [09:31:20] Yeah I did work to make it so we can do upgrades on the fly without even going into read-only thanks to multiversion. But while SQL is being applied some parts of wikis could still go down, or some stylesheets could be messed up until we purge cache. [09:31:37] hopefully it works lmao [09:31:48] We did a lot of work to make upgrading easy [09:32:00] Mainly cause I got bored of doing the old very manual way [09:32:19] it took us a long time to get multi version actually working and that was mostly @cosmicalpha [09:33:49] Hey yeah, in all my time here that was probably the most difficult project I ever worked on but with significant benefit lol I mostly pushed it off for a long time also as I didn't have the motivation to commit to it until I finally just started working towards it... [09:36:00] But you also made it possible with the initial mwdeploy/mwscript work @rhinosf1 , without that I probably never would have went the finishing marathon to make multiversion possible as I wouldn't have known how to do those Python scripts from scratch lol [09:37:03] I literally wrote mwdeploy on an evening cause the old deploying to each server individually was boring me [09:46:56] cosmicalpha: sure, though my awakeness cannot be guaranteed after 10 pm (UTC+10) [09:47:29] i anticipate reconnecting to irc around 3:30 pm tomorrow (also UTC+10) [09:53:56] [1/2] Cheers to both of you RhinosF1 and cosmicalpha. And extended to all Miraheze volunteers. All of you are making a great at Miraheze. [09:53:57] [2/2] Thanks for all your dedication and the amount of features you keep adding to Miraheze 🥳 [10:58:13] is a laggy wiki a byproduct of upgrading to 1.4.2 [11:04:02] Maybe [11:29:15] [1/2] noooooo [11:29:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263095166961586176/image.png?ex=6698fc8a&is=6697ab0a&hm=f2648e1f79267ddc8e468bd758cb4cabcf61fafb9559c1aede4a581dcf5e7658& [11:29:19] 😔 [11:29:28] I hope we haven't upgraded you to 1.4.2 [11:29:50] upgrade script is currently running through wikis starting by k [11:29:56] so yeah [11:30:12] your wiki is in 1.42 and is not working due to not applying SQL patches [11:31:42] 😔 [11:31:49] All my work to the trash [11:31:58] because this sh [11:32:05] It's not gone [11:32:09] [1/2] [11:32:09] [2/2] [41ce9852ab4b7ab1e0c24ed6] 2024-07-17 11:31:12: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError" [11:32:29] your wiki is just waiting on the SQL patches, which are running right now, just that they're behind the upgrade script [11:32:54] so the patches camed [11:33:40] aren't you importing files though? [11:33:52] also, backups have been made pre-update [11:33:56] [1/2] updates do be like that, a bit wonky for a moment [11:33:56] [2/2] you weren't here in November 2022 tho, that was a real disaster thanks to faulty hard drives [11:34:07] I checked, this is GlobalBlocking's global database's fault [11:34:12] I'll run that patch first [11:34:38] the alternatives include read-only or even just down >.> [11:36:28] no [11:36:37] yep [11:36:45] (what message are you replying to? i don't have context) [11:37:11] my bad... I think you're meant to me due to the files [11:37:17] 😅 [11:37:31] i'm even more confused but i'll pretend that i understood that [11:38:24] [1/2] here u go clair [11:38:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263097470078943242/image.png?ex=6698feb0&is=6697ad30&hm=33fd4c03ac58dfe3be86dd96236c5a5392d3a8fd6093e0b4bae27e9cd1282330& [11:38:31] @thelilacdragon. your wiki is back [11:38:37] ty [11:38:38] back in the sense that it can be read [11:38:53] but until we finish the upgrade things are going to remain stable [11:39:01] *unstable [11:40:43] ty [11:40:54] yep [12:08:56] i noticed some of the skins on my wiki are gone/nonfunctional [12:09:12] is this permanent or just a side effect of the upgrade being currently in progress [12:09:24] some skins are disabled due to not working in 1.42 [12:09:27] i do know that femiwiki is disabled on 1.42 [12:09:32] that's intentional and not due to the upgrade [12:10:33] which other skins are borked? [12:11:09] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12042 [12:11:14] see section Skins [12:13:06] got it [12:13:17] so effectively some stuff is disabled until it gets fixed, got it [12:13:58] i actually got femiwiki to work on the previous version by adding the share extension and enabling buttons instead of links [12:14:14] idk why that is, prob just a sign of a larger issue [12:14:49] someone reported femiwiki not working and i've been waiting for a stack trace ever since [12:15:02] could not reproduce on a local mw install either [12:15:11] wait, does that mean Echo and PI are borked? [12:15:20] eh? [12:15:22] or I misundetsroof [12:15:30] Echo is marked as working [12:15:38] PI as well [12:15:39] so is PI [12:15:52] checked = tested to work; unchecked = untested [12:16:45] btw, in the future we're likely to not test every extension: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Alex_(Miraheze)/Extension_testing_policy [12:17:08] also that sounds like a giant pain in the ass to do so [12:17:11] we just don't have the manpower to keep up anymore [12:17:49] like scrolling down the list, i'm kinda amazed that y'all still tried [12:17:50] ah [12:25:22] We spend about 40% of the year testing upgrades [12:30:12] (Echo will never be borked because its a WMF extension that is 100% guranteed to have been tested on wikipedia first) [12:30:46] (Unless of course we borked it) [12:34:42] in other news, CustomSearchProfiles is finally installed \o/ [12:35:03] what's dat 👀 [12:35:10] an extension i wrote [12:35:22] it was half-installed because i wrote the wrong branch name [12:35:34] after that was fixed, it sat in "needs attention" limbo [12:39:32] unfortunately it doesn't appear to update extensions, oh well [12:45:53] every wiki is now in MediaWiki 1.42 [12:49:42] [1/6] hello there folks, is tabberneue broken? [12:49:43] [2/6] every page i have it on no longer shows the selection header of the tabber group and seems to be permanently stuck in this loading animation [12:49:43] [3/6] (please let me know if i need to move this to #support) [12:49:43] [4/6] since: about an hour or so ago [12:49:43] [5/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263115413235957800/image.png?ex=66990f66&is=6697bde6&hm=844ced6913c575e5f4681a92c2d7c1e44ab8438bc7b9110670f11a3ad5b3f244& [12:49:44] [6/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263115413500461096/image.png?ex=66990f66&is=6697bde6&hm=9cada2d6f096253ab11c5c85c4378b9f9de2ab46df6c6c9eccc6cd4cccdc298d& [12:52:35] furina.siyanse: works for me here: https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Sandbox/TabberNeue [12:52:39] can you send an example link on your wiki? [12:53:47] [1/3] reference pages: [12:53:47] [2/3] https://dnatptrg.miraheze.org/wiki/Maimai_DX [12:53:48] [3/3] https://dnatptrg.miraheze.org/wiki/Pump_It_Up_2023_Phoenix [12:54:24] Our wiki also had this issue, and it seems to work after purging the page [12:54:43] oh thanks for the idea, it's working now [12:55:04] i guess computers do be like that [12:55:13] though that leaves me wondering what this has to do with caching [12:56:08] alright, nini [12:56:28] if y'all need mimi then send me a memo on irc or see my user page for the intended + unintended methods to contact me [12:56:38] o/ [12:56:48] [1/2] global block now affects auto-local account creation? [12:56:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263117200751988746/image.png?ex=66991110&is=6697bf90&hm=2a56cca8c7ea5df125023c83da60f52653c46bcdaa9545e486076b07e627ab1d& [12:57:10] hasn't it always been like that? [12:57:19] kind of useless otherwise [12:57:27] i mean, it's a global block [12:57:36] one has to assume it applies globally across miraheze [12:57:53] in .41 I think I can auto-create local account while using VPN [12:58:13] did you recently get blocked? [12:58:13] I'll check GlobalBlocking [12:58:27] oh nvm it's a year ago [12:58:44] I always use VPN and getting SOFT blocked in Miraheze [12:58:58] (SOFT block = doesn't affect while using account) [12:59:04] mm i see [13:00:17] seems intended https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-GlobalBlocking/blob/e5f91ad6abc2fd27b85bf6bbc32c51b6996267f5/includes/Services/GlobalBlockLookup.php#L86C2-L96C5 [13:02:10] looks like a change made 4-5 months ago [13:02:16] @suzuneu maybe your block is one of the only non-soft blocks? [13:02:21] could be the reason why it only recently applied [13:03:12] [1/2] seems like soft block [13:03:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263118808890085376/image.png?ex=6699128f&is=6697c10f&hm=577f980a338f876c78576d7496de5be31825116a5642e9bd96d2571854d5dc2c& [13:03:21] (this ip is from VPN) [13:03:46] which wiki is this? [13:04:53] screenshot is from meta wiki, wiki which i try to auto-create local account is ^ DNATPT Rhythm Gaming Wiki [13:05:23] [1/2] not hardblocked in local [13:05:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263119360227278858/image.png?ex=66991313&is=6697c193&hm=027244644cdeed1e45861a0fe6964d48efbccd223b7e0baf47ffd94376d7845f& [13:05:58] I'm going to try a little something [13:07:36] [1/2] oh my wiki [13:07:36] [2/2] i haven't blocked anyone yet, so definitely nobody's getting locally blocked [13:09:05] @suzuneu are you logged in now? [13:09:12] no [13:09:17] i see his account [13:09:18] or can you login to that wiki now? [13:09:29] [1/2] this is you, right? [13:09:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263120390524371036/image.png?ex=66991408&is=6697c288&hm=ba559eb37d6a479da62600d8df7f4adb45fe8dc037c88040fe0f8745a05a3e50& [13:09:59] I just autocreated a local account for Waki https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/808001911868489748/1263120414758928414 [13:09:59] i can login DNATPT Rhythm Gaming Wiki now [13:10:03] Alright [13:10:17] so I think what's happening is that during autologin you're considered an anonymous user [13:10:22] oh, didn't know you could, but i expected that [13:10:26] which is why that block affects you [13:10:41] ahh [13:10:44] understandable [13:10:52] but doesn't that mean that if you get autoblocked like that, you can't create any new local accounts [13:11:26] since every autologin/register is considered anonymous and he got an anonymous global block [13:21:10] Oh i just realized the miswording [13:21:15] I meant while upgrading [13:25:47] that's pretty bad if global blocks prohibit attachment for an existing global account tbh [13:26:00] more paperwork for block exemptions?... 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