[00:12:07] `MediaWiki:Sitenotice` [00:14:16] Are you saying these https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_usage [00:17:29] that also lists other servers which provide things like images, database, etc. [00:20:41] Could I use these servers or what? If I'm getting wrong [00:21:00] ? [00:21:05] ? [00:21:59] [1/2] There was absolutely no need to ping me then with that reply, or Rhinos. [00:21:59] [2/2] I'm asking politely please stop. [00:22:18] As i said earlier, this is not a mediawiki help server. [00:24:10] I'm also saying politely I also know what to do where and how got it. [00:24:22] Again, stop pinging me please. [00:26:56] I'm not juts replying and don't have any interest to do so. [00:27:37] Yes. And you need to turn off the ping when you reply. It is unecesssry to ping someone on reply unless it is urgent. [00:28:16] Yeah really I have the habit to reply someone by clicking on reply to so it goes like pinging my mistake. [00:41:04] 💡 Tip: If you Shift-click while clicking on "Reply", that will disable pings. [00:48:00] Neat, didn't know that [00:58:33] Hey actually how could I allow Sysop to add my new protection level as I couldn't do that. [01:21:29] What if random people edit my wiki? I saw how in other wikis I can literally freely edit [01:21:33] And it's concerning [01:24:08] thats kinda the point of a wiki [01:24:14] but you can disable it ig [01:24:28] if its a good faith but unproductive edit [01:24:29] revert [01:24:32] talk to them [01:24:39] contributors are your greatesrt asset [01:24:49] if its vandalism [01:24:50] block [01:26:47] Alright [01:26:55] Thanks [01:55:22] Alternatively, you could remove the edit permission from the everyone (*) role and give it to another role, up to you [02:25:37] If you’re worried about random people editing, you could check out [[:mw:extension:Moderation]] [02:25:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/:mw:extension:Moderation [02:25:38]

[02:26:20] If you want the benefits of free editing but want to prevent stuff like vandalism [02:27:02] Even just enabling email confirm to edit is a great first step - it means that somoene must create an account and attach an email to it in order to edit on that wiki. [05:15:37] Hey my friend is having probelms with the MomatroAnytics page on his mirahee wiki [05:15:50] He didn't do anything it was just fine yeastarday [05:16:18] Like he tried to click on the OS section and it doesn't work for some reason [05:17:05] Can I have the wiki url [05:17:40] we can’t do much without the url [05:18:09] Here [05:18:12] https://santorinilonghornazure.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics [05:18:19] It was just fine yeastarday [05:18:33] You can even cehck the wayback machine [05:18:41] tbh I don't see much use in matomo [05:19:03] it looks like most buttons that aren’t links don’t work [05:19:25] Is that a glitch? [05:19:29] do you have any custom CSS or JS set up? [05:19:38] Cause my freidn didn't chnage anything on the wiki [05:19:48] Not really [05:19:52] well they did set a default theme [05:20:07] https://santorinilonghornazure.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics?useskin=vector-2022 lemme try this [05:20:12] Look at the wayback Machine [05:21:03] [1/2] well I can click buttons now but they take a while to do anything and then I get [05:21:03] [2/2] [f4b5040320224c415bb6171b] 2024-09-10 05:20:22: Fatal exception of type "LogicException" [05:21:16] Buttons still do not work [05:21:34] and we’re back to buttons not working again [05:21:34] to stripe down CSS/JS add `?safemode=1` in URL [05:21:53] https://santorinilonghornazure.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics?useskin=vector-2022&safemode=1 [05:22:09] nope still broken [05:22:38] judging by the LogicError this is an internal issue, try and make a [[Phorge]] task [05:22:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [05:22:39]

[05:23:15] Is this another one of Moraheze's Glitches? [05:23:25] Cause it was just fine yestarday [05:23:33] we don't know man [05:23:51] phorge is the place where bug reports and tech requests are made [05:23:52] I think this is just a minor issue, something is likely misconfigured with your specific instance [05:23:53] This one is on the server that belongs to eraheze since my friend does not slef host [05:24:23] Well look at the snapshots of it on the wayback machine [05:24:33] Categoría ate Broken [05:24:47] rip Broken [05:25:11] how so [05:25:12] So where are the admins of Miraheze [05:25:32] just notified a tech member, they should be here soon [05:25:36] you were told to submit tiket to tech place [05:25:39] I would like to report this as a bug. [05:25:47] ^ [05:26:00] https://phorge.miraheze.org [05:26:04] https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org [05:26:44] what exactly is wrong with the categories [05:28:20] ok something similar is happening here https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12571 [05:28:26] You havenr click [05:29:39] sure enough exact same issue https://tna.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics [05:29:43] https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Categor%C3%ADa:Art%C3%ADculos_originales_de_NimoStar this should have 1500+ articles [05:29:55] it’s only occurring on specific wikis though, not all of them [05:29:59] lemme guess - cache [05:30:13] from what I see this has 1732 articles [05:30:53] Why can't you file the report that the bugs is affacting the anaytics page [05:31:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1282936348625469450/Screenshot_20240910-073039.png?ex=66e12b15&is=66dfd995&hm=22a682a63ca13c7cce60961a6f4eb6458a6e85e34806758619ac29ff995a0738& [05:31:06] I can't do it since I don't have an account [05:31:11] ah mobile cache [05:31:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1282936523724947477/IMG_9247.png?ex=66e12b3f&is=66dfd9bf&hm=ef369b86307d2550d030fc69cbb1da3b2cd6c23a21759c140be01a1fa70db81b& [05:31:46] [1/2] there's the problem [05:31:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1282936534273626122/DpcTNbv.png?ex=66e12b41&is=66dfd9c1&hm=d8a5b6c5899721c56a117a8fb2d8b1cd22813fa4e11a5cc3c39271b55f2f53fd& [05:32:09] [1/2] https://tna.miraheze.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=startup&only=scripts&raw=1&skin=vector [05:32:09] [2/2] `[671a1bec2a020a81416fa73a] 2024-09-10 00:30:38: Fatal exception of type "Error"` [05:32:10] it only seems to be occurring on some wikis though [05:32:36] Well the tab buttons on my friend's wiki is not working [05:32:52] is there a way to check what server these both wikis are running on [05:32:53] I want someone to make a report of the issues on the behalf [05:33:14] I had an issue with the skin script not working and it had something to do with an incompatible extension that was enabled [05:33:23] and it had to do with buttons not being clickable [05:33:39] There is no exteions though [05:33:58] besides it was just working yestrday [05:34:00] [1/2] you need to click the Login w/ MediaWiki button, it will get attached to Miraheze account [05:34:00] [2/2] if you are reporting here on behalf of admin friend, they should report [05:34:21] Isn’t this done through special:version? [05:34:28] Or one of the similar pages? [05:35:29] lemme check [05:35:58] Ok. You don't have problem. I have problem. How to solve? [05:36:33] I believe it’s a caching error on your end, but I’m not really familiar with the topic so you’d need to ask somebody else [05:36:42] Is this bug gonna be fixed soon is anyone else also having this issue? [05:37:19] The other admin is having the same issue so is not my device [05:37:38] it's because of the cache [05:37:41] At least not only [05:37:48] doesn’t look like it [05:38:11] [1/3] yes, other wiki has [05:38:11] [2/3] will it be fixed soon - I don't know [05:38:11] [3/3] please acknowledge Miraheze is operated by volunteers, nobody gets paid here and there's no 24/7 support [05:39:05] @princessellierose do you happen to know how to check the server of a wiki (e.g. mw152) [05:39:38] only thing I've seen is "database cluser" in managewiki but I'm not entirely sure what that corresponds to [05:40:01] yeah that doesn’t seem to be the issue because they’re both on different clusters [05:40:30] Wow I guess this isn't an isolated incident either [05:46:12] technology always has some shit going on lol [05:50:42] lol [05:50:59] I think the Windows 7 use count on his stite his a 120 [05:51:59] Though I love Windows 7 myself [05:53:48] [1/2] I love win 7 but it is sadly not a way to use it safely anymore, unless you're deep in computer stuff [05:53:48] [2/2] I kept XP to the very end as well [05:55:34] Oh yes forgot to mention has a decent number of Windows XP and Windows Vista vistiors and Firefox, Pale Moon, Bailisk, Mypal, and Microsoft Edge has a somewhat high reating in his site [05:55:41] I love Windows 7 so much [05:56:13] Ok. But off topic [05:56:47] Is the Anaytics page gonna be fixed any time soon my friend wants too know [05:57:01] tbh I wouldn't trust Matomo analytics that much, it's always seemed funky to me [05:57:31] They already replied to yoy [05:57:32] [1/2] I told you there's no ETA [05:57:33] [2/2] people work here in their free time and don't get koney for that work [05:57:59] Yeah that is the thing with FOSS Software [05:58:14] Unrelated [05:58:16] then why you keep asking [05:58:46] I want to know if the cache thing is aknowledged and if there is more people suffering [05:59:26] [1/2] I think everyone know about variety of cache issues [05:59:27] [2/2] try to clean up your browser cookies cache etc tho? [06:00:04] also like, special pages updates might take couple of days [06:00:06] In desktop mode is fine. In mobile is not. [06:00:16] mobile cache is an issue yes [06:00:25] blame cloudflaire [06:00:49] Ok. Thank you [06:01:55] Now going to install a DGX for a client. And two storage servers 24 NVMe 8TB each one in raid 6. Wouldn't we want something like that? [06:02:03] Xd [06:02:18] > [10/09/2024 16:00] blame cloudflaire [06:02:25] these questions better be asked in #tech lol [06:02:28] to be more accurate, blame MultiPurge for not sending mobile purge for cloudflare [06:02:50] Just retorical. Have a nice day [06:12:50] god i fucking hate that resourceloader debug breaks on cloudflare wikis [06:19:47] wait no, i don't know whether or not to blame cloudflare or mobilefrontend now [06:26:06] it's mobilefrontend's fault [06:36:51] let's remove it [06:40:16] not my wiki [06:51:01] rip [08:09:07] it’s happening on all wikis now [08:10:57] it seems to be spreading to some extent, did someone deploy something they shouldnt’ve? [08:30:15] MobileFrontEnd is an extension. Is not standard, i think. So in case mobile frontend is the culprit, we can disable it. [08:33:08] I was joking lol [08:33:24] you know I just don't like MFE but I know some wikis need it [08:33:35] I also don't like MFE [08:36:42] [1/2] Thanks to Miraheze volunteers for fixing the caché issue! [08:36:43] [2/2] Now the wiki pages look good! 🥳 [10:01:49] sorry if someone alr asked this but is editing being weird and not working for anybody else [10:02:09] deviltown333: what do you mean by "not working"? [10:02:33] that being said, there is this related task: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12571 [10:02:54] it may be related to that if editing is being unresponsive [10:57:47] Whenever I press the edit button nothing happens [10:58:04] hmm... perhaps visualeditor failed? [10:58:08] need a url to test [11:24:32] The same goes for me. [11:49:23] Damn [11:58:21] Any updates on our wikis being basically unusable [12:31:29] I wouldn’t call them “unusable” [12:31:49] the functionality is severely reduced but you can still view and edit pages [12:32:01] Nearly constantly down unless they decide to be up for 1 second [12:32:05] I’d imagine yeah [12:32:22] wdym by “down” [12:32:48] It's several minutes between being able to access any pages at all because it's constantly giving that smw key error [12:32:58] VE is likely not loading, it relies almost entirely on JS [12:33:12] it’s part of a larger issue I believe [12:33:50] and still uploading files [12:35:14] though Meta doesn’t seem to have the issue [12:35:46] but also a wiki with zero extensions does so I think something’s gone wrong on a specific server [12:36:10] that wiki has different issue iirc [12:36:22] Template pages are unavailable [12:36:53] was a task made, or tech pinged here at least? [12:37:00] screenshot? [12:37:08] yo where can I drop suggestions [12:37:10] and feedback [12:37:11] Yes [12:37:14] My wikis seem fine [12:37:19] For what [12:37:23] Miraheze [12:37:26] I’d assume it’s related to the same issue [12:37:33] in particular, the website rn [12:37:34] are you experiencing a bug? [12:37:40] no, I want to leave feedback [12:37:48]