[00:36:53] i mean this is less of a visitor counter and more just like [00:37:04] tracking where people click [00:39:48] but to my understanding [00:40:01] adding something like https://www.flagcounter.com would be ok [00:41:12] speaking of which can that site be put on the content policy whitelist [00:41:21] think it would be cool to have one of them in the footer [00:43:43] whats that(cant look at the link rn) [00:45:50] it’s a visitor counter basically [00:46:00] just shows how many visits you have from each country [00:46:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298085092165419050/image0.jpg?ex=67184773&is=6716f5f3&hm=a2caca809139fed46bf94b62caf9ca4ee91eb5e897c0c1b94e80f25d7e61f13c& [00:46:47] just this basically [01:08:38] <.guardianx.> Anyone know of a wiki on mira that uses Extension:DataMaps? Trying to see how to implement it, looking at other wiki sites I kinda get the general gist but I'd like to see stuff implemented here if possible [01:43:09] Any idea why I can't access this wiki? https://csydes.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages [01:59:52] So, uhhh... I suppose I need a steward to active the Semantic plugins for my Wiki, because there's not really much I can do regarding that but I'm pretty sure a lot of the infoboxes my Wiki's using needs them. [02:01:23] [1/2] Or at least that's why I'm getting this error, I feel... It's a script error, like this one, and I guess it's trying to link back to the Wikimedia infobox but can't do so without the Semantic plugins. [02:01:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298103883301781524/image.png?ex=671858f3&is=67170773&hm=19754f882c580ff2a96ef9d20743653ea4878802449a506bc72c74f6c423071f& [02:22:06] can i set an image as the background for a template [02:26:54] No, it's trying to get "Module:Infobox military conflict" from your wiki. Since it doesn't exist in your wiki, then it errs. [02:27:47] and on top of that can i make the image tile [02:35:32] Hi dmehus :) [02:41:54] hey MacFan4000 :) [02:44:13] sup dmehus [02:44:43] hows life [02:48:45] scary! [02:48:48] dmehus is here [02:50:04] stop drop and roll! [02:53:32] good, PixDeVl, you? [02:53:57] good. my rust code is compiling so that's fun [02:54:01] wiki coding go brrrrr [02:54:04] oh [02:55:38] also finally submited my first draft PR to implement something ratified in RFC back in march [02:55:51] we're very puntual:tm: [02:56:06] i think theres meant to be a c somewhere in that word [03:02:26] i asked a question but nobody answered it [03:03:51] nobody had an answer [03:03:56] damn [03:04:04] well i'm asking it again [03:04:13] can i use an image as a background for a template [03:05:58] PixDeVl, cool. Which RfC was that again? [03:09:56] dmehus: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Content_and_Dormancy_Policies [03:11:14] lala [03:14:30] dodo [03:18:33] how the hell do you make a template [03:19:05] [1/2] like [03:19:06] [2/2] one you would see in a fandom wiki [03:21:12] make a page starting with Template: [03:21:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [03:23:01] hey chat how much rust is too much rust for one day [03:24:22] [1/2] in like [03:24:23] [2/2] a box [03:24:32] you mean an infobox? [03:24:42] yeah [03:25:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [03:25:51] [1/2] example (not from a miraheze wiki but still powered by mediawiki [03:25:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298125141342945290/IMG_5745.png?ex=67186cbf&is=67171b3f&hm=1e482d75acd214ce2344f161dddf51cac66af595748bc48a794b58b0fad05375& [03:26:01] oh [03:26:05] not aninfobox [03:27:15] PixDeVl, ah [03:28:14] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Mbox maybe [03:28:35] dmehus: the fast track deletion thing [03:29:02] but the tests failed [03:29:14] so gonna have to take a look in the morning [03:29:28] i love php so much /no [03:31:10] this might work [03:31:23] PixDeVl, oh, cool [03:31:27] i also wanna figure out how to put an image into the template [03:31:33] as the background [03:32:35] thats probably something css related though [03:32:49] yea smt like that [03:32:52] css is evil [03:33:22] background-image [03:34:55] yknow what [03:35:01] not that evil [03:35:32] gotta give this to css [03:35:55] alright sleepy night night time [03:36:08] rust and PHP you guys can bully me tmr [03:36:55] spotify CRANE WIVES GO [03:53:41] okay i imported mbox to my wiki [04:04:03] [1/2] okay problem [04:04:03] [2/2] this might not be sufficient [04:08:46] [1/2] mbox is not meant to look like this [04:08:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298135939696300094/IMG_5746.png?ex=671876ce&is=6717254e&hm=338922f4da00c7945d77b0dfae09ccf2febaf0dd310d8af978088cd9ed82a139& [04:41:50] you need to give it arguments if I’m not mistaken [04:42:13] you could also just use something along the lines of [[chinafake:Template:Stub]] [04:42:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/chinafake:Template:Stub [04:42:14] [04:42:21] aauuuhhhhggg [04:42:40] [[mh:chinafake:Template:Stub]] [04:42:40] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/chinafake:Template:Stub [04:42:41] [04:42:44] there we go [04:44:24] i want something similar to the bfdi wiki [04:44:34] where there’s a quote then information [04:45:12] [1/2] like this but in a template [04:45:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298145108008501308/IMG_5747.png?ex=67187f58&is=67172dd8&hm=b35259cb78f55a1ce299edf044993f9f4dfcf38ebdc4d40ad9b71cabfee4de3a& [04:46:08] yeah I’m saying you could take the template I linked above, copy it to your wiki, and then change out the image and text [04:47:48] and then i could just modify it with css stuff [04:57:39] yes [04:57:43] you could [04:58:42] like adding rounded edges [04:58:48] and adding an image to the background [05:04:10] idk if that’ll work because when i tried to add “background-image” to the style it just removed the box and border [05:22:07] [1/2] the text isnt centered… this infuriates me [05:22:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298154400509988936/IMG_5748.png?ex=671887ff&is=6717367f&hm=50bf7d2570e0874e9ceda077cc48ccfc4709c3e60b288e1c4dc7995e788d6ac3& [05:39:27] how do i fix this [05:41:40] did you copied CSS/imported all templates (w/ include flag)? [05:43:32] what [05:45:06] please explain to me in simpler terms [06:34:18] you can uh [06:34:23] wrap it in the center tag [08:46:59] is there a way to link to another miraheze wiki template [08:47:07] just curious [08:47:45] something like [[mh:rainverse:Template:Inline spoiler]] i assume is what you're asking for? [08:47:45] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/rainverse:Template:Inline_spoiler [08:49:04] no like fandom has a thing where you can do {{w:templatename}} and itll get the template from community.fandom.com [08:49:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:templatename [08:49:06] [1/2] [08:49:06] [2/2] Not the correct result? Use `!wiki ?en page templatename` for a direct link or `!wiki ?en search templatename` for a list of all hits. [08:50:00] oh, scary transclusion? [08:51:06] i think so? idk [08:53:47] see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding [09:03:57] it's a thing but it's not recommended iirc [09:05:09] if you want to just link, not use, a template I think something can be done w/ mh: prefix, can't remember for sure [09:07:43] Er... ? [09:20:33] is there any use for the campaign namespace or can i delete it [09:23:38] did you enabled UploadWizard extension? [09:23:58] no [09:24:45] it's not part of default setup, something added it [09:25:04] make a phorge task man [10:24:49] Ah. Soooo... Adding it in that way doesn't work, then, and I should try importing it from Wikipedia? [10:25:25] Yes. [11:18:19] reception123: I don't think we need to call to the shortage of WC specifically, we can probably just say all volunteers, small team, etc [11:18:41] We could {{include}} the time estimate from Waki's bot as well [11:18:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:include [11:19:12] The shortage part is mainly to say that it's not always been like this and that usually (even with a small team) requests get done quickly [11:19:34] I did think about Waki's box actually and using include but I remembered a while ago it didn't seem to be updating correctly for me [11:19:40] 3 days is pretty damn good ngl [11:19:48] how so [11:20:01] did you just forget to purge the page you're using the box on [11:20:07] well sometimes people complain here and since MH is the only main request-based service I guess it's fair [11:20:16] I did purge, but I don't know maybe something strange was happening then [11:20:33] the bot edits a sub page with only the time estimate [11:20:34] In any case, if we use Waki's box I'd actually rather use an IF statement and unless the queue is over like 70 not even display any additional message [11:20:36] could use that [11:20:48] true [11:21:14] maybe we could add a magic word to CW, {{NUMBEROFREQUESTS:inreview}} [11:21:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/NUMBEROFREQUESTS:Template:inreview [11:21:43] say wm-bot, thats not how templates work bud [11:22:04] for those on discord, it linked to NUMBEROFREQUESTS:Template:inreview [11:22:59] yeah I was thinking of that too [11:23:14] though that's a bit more work so that's why I didn't do it yet [11:23:27] as for https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285-Bot/RWQ_backlog/backlog I tried to purge and it still says 120 even though in cw_requests the number is 118 [11:23:34] and yes, not a huge difference but that indicates that it's not fully updating [11:24:34] Is there like a leaderboard for all the wikis? (Based on, for example, the number of edits, users that have edited the wiki etc?) [11:24:37] I'm not sure estimating the time based on number of requests is too accurate though [11:24:57] [1/2] Close, [11:24:58] [2/2] there's https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:WikiDiscover and https://wikistats.wmcloud.org/display.php?t=mh [11:25:09] Thanks [11:44:36] I really don't want to have to do that though. [11:45:42] [1/2] well you aren't lucky w/ time zones, and general chat is always moving, and it's mostly us non tech folks [11:45:42] [2/2] make at least support thread [11:46:05] bad timezone rng [11:46:42] also IRC users don't see content of replied to message? [11:46:47] nope [11:47:00] this speedrun kinda sucks, it takes so long to find out whether or not you rolled excellently on your location of birth [11:47:16] yeah, so if you hope for IRC user reply you gotta dupe your entire message [11:47:31] there's like 2.5 irc users lol [11:47:39] but yeah, that's a thing ^^; [11:48:10] you also gotta account for the fact that i'm kinda busy lately lol [12:28:12] hello ! [12:28:55] /auth [12:29:53] how do i /auth? when i write it, it doesn't appear as a command [12:30:48] #verify [12:32:28] thank you [12:33:38] i can't wait to pass my 1026 page wiki into miraheze [12:38:09] Hi, I reported this bug a few weeks ago, I was told to do a task in phorge, which was done by a friend who is the owner of the wiki, I'm still having problems adding the extension, but I'm not sure if he did the task correctly or it's just a problem with my wiki, like some compatibility or smth [12:51:39] hiya, can we make a request to remove some user groups that we dont need or is that not allowed [12:51:43] also would that be done on phorge [12:52:36] [1/2] what kind of user groups? [12:52:36] [2/2] the default ones better to be left alone [12:53:33] i'm like 90% sure you can do basically whatever you want with the groups [12:53:55] you can even delete the bureaucrat one if you wish, though it's very much recommended that you're in another group with the managewiki-* rights before doing so [12:54:07] iirc deletion was limited after handful of cases when newbies delete sysop or bureau [12:54:25] oh that was already done? [12:54:51] [1/2] I'm not sure, I haven't tried lol [12:54:51] [2/2] I remember discussion [12:55:28] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T10230 [12:55:29] not yet [12:56:13] custom user groups def can be deleted by admins [12:56:17] ah well [12:56:30] stuff like reviewer/rollbackers [12:56:32] I still wouldn't recommend to delete sysop or bureau lol [12:56:42] i dont see a delete option [12:56:46] ofc i wont delete sysop/bcrat [12:56:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298268871081590894/image.png?ex=6718f29b&is=6717a11b&hm=e23c274607f1af98c98aff36f6defe8ee20cc6c2a34e05f92326aa5ddaf3a9e1& [12:57:04] thought delete is on the very right [12:59:44] weird, that's not a built-in group? [13:02:55] i have the same issue [13:03:05] the delete button doesn't exist on any user group [13:03:12] even custom ones [13:08:11] im not too sure if it is [13:08:24] all the more reason to have a delete button though id just like to assign the permissions to existing groups [13:44:15] the logic for it might be messed up [13:45:21] It’s been like this for ever [14:02:39] I'm currently in the middle of midterm exams, so I'm paying for not studying well in class (I'm studying rn). Sorry for not being able to create a wiki [14:03:08] good luck [14:09:26] How do I make taxoboxes in a wiki? [14:10:51] [1/2] taxobox? can you drop an example? [14:10:51] [2/2] (you might need to #verify to post links) [14:12:58] [1/2] the infoboxes showing the taxonomy, species, age, etc. [14:12:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298287991982260316/image.png?ex=6719046a&is=6717b2ea&hm=facd5ce8e5f42c0119b2467fb0269c6291d697e8ef35490f75b34f922a092d36& [14:13:07] hmm [14:14:05] well, everything except maybe that color stripe can be achieved in portable infobox, we just don't have a ready one for that on Dev Wiki [14:14:24] without too fancy template coding I mean [14:21:46] hello [14:24:06] I know this may seem like a dumb question but how exactly does the visual editor work? Is it like editing with Fandom or very different? [14:42:07] [1/3] Guest76 - both Miraheze and Fandom offer Visual and Source editors [14:42:08] [2/3] visual is like you see the end result while editing [14:42:08] [3/3] source is wiki text, actual code of the page, kinda similar to markdown [14:43:03] Miraheze offers basically vanilla versions of both, Fandom decided to modify them tho [14:43:18] No worries man. Go study and ace what you need to do, we won’t be going anywhere [15:00:25] Saying source editor is the actual code of the page, I would say isn't quite right, it still going through quite some parsing to turn into the actual HTML code afterwards. It is indeed far more like a markdown style language [15:00:28] [1/4] Yo, i've requested a wiki. Just a couple questions please; [15:00:28] [2/4] How long does it take to get a reply? [15:00:28] [3/4] How do i know if it gets approved or not? [15:00:29] [4/4] And can we change the designs/colours of the wikis at all? [15:01:09] Cheers 🍻 [15:01:11] It’s the source in that it’s what it’s rendered from on a storage level [15:01:36] A) depends on the wiki creator team which is chronically understaffed and all volunteers [15:02:06] An estimate from some math [15:02:16] 4 fukin days [15:02:16] @kyronix Watch your language. [15:02:18] You should get a notification on wiki and an email about the status [15:02:25] You shush dyno [15:02:28] Crikey [15:02:37] Dyno just [15:02:38] Does that [15:02:39] Anywhere else you'd recommend ? [15:02:43] Sometimes [15:02:47] Other hosts? [15:02:51] what recommend? [15:02:53] Yeah, [15:03:02] Gonna have to pay for a custom one i guess [15:03:05] Its $$ thoo [15:03:09] all of them but Fandom have reviews [15:03:22] well, and self hosting [15:03:25] Gonna be honest, if you don’t wanna wait 4 days for a review maintaining a wiki gonna be hard [15:03:41] How so ? [15:03:46] Well, thanks for the answer but I have another question, is there a way to edit like Fandom or do I have to read the guides so I can code it? :). [15:03:50] It’s definitely unfortunate it’s that long [15:03:53] I've been maintaining one in discord channels for time [15:03:56] You can enabled visual editor [15:04:07] Alright, appreciated. [15:04:43] Guest76 - not sure what you mean still, as I said stuff here is basically same as Fandom, but as Pix said you need to enable VisualEditor extension in wiki's settings [15:04:46] Fandom looks like it has tons of ads [15:04:50] As a matter of patience. Regardless 4 days is just an estimate from the current number plus an equation [15:04:54] Just mega eye aids [15:05:00] Maintaining a wiki is a lot of work, and just the initial work to get everything looking and running well is gonna take way longer than 4 days anyway [15:05:14] They’re getting better. Slowly [15:05:25] Alright [15:05:29] [1/3] that's why everyone hate it lol [15:05:29] [2/3] plus loads of other reasons [15:05:30] [3/3] but I second on what Pix said [15:05:40] So it's either this and have it look bare, or pay a web dev $300 [15:05:43] But still wouldn’t really recommend unless SEO is a super mega priority [15:05:57] You can change the default skin [15:06:10] maintaining discord channels is far not the same thing as admining a wiki [15:06:13] But yes once you get your wiki approved, you can change basically anything in terms of designs and colors. MH basically lets you do anything you want, that isn't posing an actual security or privacy risk to the platform and other users [15:06:18] Plus if you know css there’s more customization. Cosmos also has some things for customization [15:06:25] Lunch is over and I didn’t eat [15:06:27] Drat [15:06:28] I've looked at a few pages now, they are all just the same. Can you send me an example please? [15:06:32] Of some nice looking ones pls [15:06:57] Why? Im only allowing myself and maybe a couple others to edit it [15:06:57] Citizen is my favorite default probably [15:07:02] Is that how it works? [15:07:05] [[mw:Skin:Citizen]] [15:07:05] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Citizen [15:07:06] [15:07:08] I can allow permission for certain users to edit [15:07:35] starcitizen.tools ? [15:07:45] ^ [15:07:48] starcitizen.tools ? [15:08:13] templates and CSS is usually what newcommers always struggle w/ it, gotta learn wiki text, template coding, etc [15:08:54] and copying/importing isn't always a solution, has to be done carefully [15:10:17] [1/2] Is this site made with you guys ? [15:10:17] [2/2] starcitizen.tools/ [15:10:40] " It was initially created for the Star Citizen Wiki" [15:10:53] Or is this just the skin [15:11:24] no [15:11:36] these folks made the skin [15:11:44] then let other wiki sites to use it [15:12:32] Keep in mind that like 99% of wiki's regardless of who hosts them(whether Miraheze, Fandom, wiki.gg, most independent hosts etc.), are using the MediaWiki software to run the actual wiki. [15:13:34] theoneandonlylegroom - Appreciated, where exactly can I see how to use the VisualEditor extension? [15:13:39] wikidot sitting in the corner in unmaintained: [15:13:45] How to use or enable? [15:13:53] To use [15:14:08] Enable is on Special:ManageWiki/extensions, help us [[mw:Help:VisualEditor]] [15:14:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:VisualEditor [15:14:09] [15:14:17] Thank you! [15:14:23] Guest76 - you just press Edit button after extension is enabled (might take couple of min and refreshes) [15:14:54] source editor also stays, as Edit source button [15:20:36] Appreciated, thank you so much. [15:20:48] I can edit background from VisualEditor too, right? [15:25:33] Guest76 - no, that's a more complicated thing [15:26:04] both editors are for whatever is content of the page [15:26:32] the look of the wiki is modified by means of CSS/JS and sometimes wiki settings [15:29:31] content of wiki* page [15:33:32] So, in this case how can I change the background? [15:33:54] Oop, never mind, didn't read carefully your answer, sorry! [15:37:24] And quick question, can it be changed so it is one version for the light theme and dark theme (if there is one) like in Fandom? [15:37:57] And if yes, can it be different for mobile and for PC? [15:49:16] [1/8] Guest76 [15:49:16] [2/8] again, CSS and JS, anything about wiki's look, design, layout is that [15:49:16] [3/8] Fandom has its own skin and its own "theme designer" [15:49:17] [4/8] Miraheze offers several different skins, and one of them - Cosmos, lets you to change colors/bg in just settings, but the rest has to be done w/ CSS [15:49:17] [5/8] there's DarkMode extension which adds dark/light button, but it's not super good, it simply inverts everything, if you want things to look differently that would require, again, advanced CSS poking [15:49:17] [6/8] there's however a skin w/ native dark/light mode, Citizen, but - you guessed it, stuff is done via CSS [15:49:18] [7/8] there's MobileFrontend extension which adds actual mobile mode, and it requires modification via MediaWiki.Mobile.css page, in other words the look is maintained separately from desktop version [15:49:18] [8/8] both DarkMode and MobileFrontend extensions are enabled on wiki by default [15:51:12] a lot of things can be changed w/ CSS alone, really, and Miraheze doesn't impose limits on it and JS like Fandom does [15:55:05] although we don't offer a theme designer, admins still can thrive once they understand how CSS works [15:57:02] [1/2] I guess this is good enough [15:57:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298314177567522826/image.png?ex=67191ccd&is=6717cb4d&hm=7db4b42404620793b0825e5f51a0bfcf660b59609a73533f6b2c69c11b719905& [15:58:16] Fair enough, any advice on learning CSS and how exactly do I install the Citizen theme? [16:04:07] Skins are in Special:ManageWiki/extensions [16:16:50] after enabling the skin you should set it up in Additional wiki settings (Special:ManageWiki/settings), Styling tab, right at the top (default skin) [16:18:22] also Citizen is mobile adaptive skin, which means it can work/look nicely w/o MobileFrontend, unless you really want to maintain each version separately [16:20:29] [1/4] as for how to CSS - there are lots of free tutorials online, like w3schools, starting w/ very basics [16:20:30] [2/4] the usual way of modifying a skin is to poke its HTML code with your browser's web tools, element inspector, see what changes should be made and apply them to corresponding MediaWiki:Skinnname.css page [16:20:30] [3/4] you can also check CSS of another, already modified wiki, but w/o proper knowledge you most likely will confuse yourself with too fancy code, it's better to start with basics [16:20:30] [4/4] we also have Dev Wiki which has some general snippets, and particularly tweaks for Cosmos skin, including JS [16:24:17] Quick question, are personal wiki projects still allowed or has it moved to just community ones? [16:24:36] check [[Content Policy]] [16:24:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [16:24:37] [16:24:43] Thank you [16:25:20] from what I see personal wikis are allowed, we still get loads on new worldbuilding wikis for example [16:25:57] [1/2] now I have a question [16:25:57] [2/2] can Meta have redirects to Dev, so we won't have to type dev: here for wikibot? [16:31:37] Are those allowed still? Mine is more or less a worldbuilding wiki I wish to start and get friends involved in. [16:34:14] cross-wiki hard redirects are discouraged [16:34:25] Well yes, nothing has changed [16:34:47] Alright, I havent checked in here since pre-merger so was unsure if policies had changed [16:35:44] if anything, WikiTide's much stricter Content Policy was curtailed for Miraheze [16:36:42] Ah thank you for the clarification [16:37:02] [1/2] Hi. I have a doubt with some files not displaying on my wiki. [16:37:03] [2/2] The static shows the file but the description page appears blank. [16:38:02] Well, the description page appears with text, but without the image. No image previews, or miniatures of the imagen, but when i click on the static, the image is there [16:38:39] When i try to display that image on a wiki page, then I don't see the image. What is happening there? [16:42:47] understandable [16:49:26] Hi Legroom. Do you know why some images do not display on their pages? Is some server related thing? [16:50:14] it seems to be a bug [16:50:30] not really the first time it happened honestly [16:52:37] no idea man, I'm the last person to ask about server behaviour lol [16:53:10] I will ask some tech volunteer then [16:57:24] how do i change the color of text [16:59:00] mid line [17:01:28] sample text/span [17:01:45] seems like it was an issue with their cache [17:02:04] they talked to me about it [17:06:06] I don't see the image [17:07:11] How can I center text? [17:08:02] you can use
text/center or use templates or CSS with default style [17:08:16] Thanks [17:10:19] Is it just me or is there way more people joining on IRC then before [17:10:54] I don't know the total number of people joining IRC. So I don't know if they are more than before [17:12:46] I think some people think they'll get faster support on IRC sometimes [17:12:54] I've noticed people ask here and on IRC [17:13:52] Guys.. it’s relayed [17:14:01] But I mean last few days [17:14:30] The number of non Mac or Claire’s on IRC has gone through the very low roof [17:15:55] I have cleaned Cache but Images are not displaying on their description page for me. Why I don't see the image? [17:19:16] Quick question, is there a way to make a front page in Fandom, Wiki GG, or others and just copy the CSS and paste it on the wiki? [17:22:18] nah, I see no difference from 2021 tbh [17:22:59] You sure? [17:23:03] persona - well, you can copy the code to corresponding page on your wiki, like MediaWiki:Common.css, but there's no guarantee it'll work correctly [17:23:05] In support especially I see a lot more [17:23:24] I’ve seen as much in less then a week as I normally see in a month I feel [17:23:30] Will try ty [17:23:36] I mean, there always were people jumping for quick questions [17:23:49] Not this many [17:23:57] But I may be wrong [17:24:01] maybe before you joined [17:24:12] I mean can be periodic lol [17:24:28] it doesn't feel like that to me tbh [17:25:34] persona - I advise folks to understand CSS before copying, seen newbies asking to "fix CSS" after blind copy pasting enough times [17:26:07] Okay thanks [17:58:41] [1/2] do i have to say it is forked from a wiki if i am uploading my wiki from fandom? [17:58:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298344796015956039/image.png?ex=67193951&is=6717e7d1&hm=e7ae1362177548e893e91cc70a3516207b5fd19cd1bbd02fd6d8bef38473b3c0& [17:58:57] Yes [17:59:17] alright thanks! [18:01:34] [1/3] i have a couple questions [18:01:35] [2/3] compared to fandom, does miraheze work the same way? people showed me that there is indeed visual and wikitext edition modes, but i'm mostly worrying about the templates. I have dozens of them, and one is on nearly half of my 1027 pages (it is a flagicon template), and i have no idea if the templates will be uploaded to miraheze with the pages, and if no, if the editors are goi [18:01:35] [3/3] ng to let me copy paste the code from Fandom [18:02:06] xml dump of the wiki includes templaes [18:03:34] there might be some small mishaps w/ things like infoboxes, because PortableInfobox extension has to be enabled on Miraheze first, and then infobox templates need a "kick" after import, w/ a minuscule edit to start looking/working normally [18:05:00] re flagicon template - if we talk about real world flags, you won't even need to upload their images, it can work w/ files from Wikimedia Commons, which is linked w/ Miraheze wikis by default [18:06:17] [1/2] raw copypasting is a no in wiki matters, if you are forking the wiki it has to be an xml dump w/ page histories [18:06:17] [2/2] unless you're the sole editor of the wiki, then page history won't play that much role [18:10:13] [1/3] Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, Fandom, Miraheze, wiki.gg and loads of independent wikis are all powered by the same engine, MediaWiki, so stuff and code is largely interchangeable, if this is the right word? [18:10:13] [2/3] template and module (Lua) coding is same always [18:10:13] [3/3] but Fandom has some very specific things they don't share w/ anyone, if that wiki uses something from Fandom Dev Wiki via ImportJS, it will require a bit of manual fixing [18:56:41] [1/4] sorry to slide in in the middle here, but I've been getting at least on the CriticalRole wiki an HTTP 500 error when trying to perform tasks like marking an edit as patrolling, sending thanks, or previewing an edit? [18:56:41] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298359388242972802/image.png?ex=671946e8&is=6717f568&hm=3863634ba1401424e1eb51b0897f06ade997981174d614740cdb3e6c2860ee6c& [18:56:41] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298359388540502136/image.png?ex=671946e8&is=6717f568&hm=0c73baeb52dbb5241d22dbc8ea53f5acb229f4f27b0b577401f879fb1e4c7549& [18:56:41] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298359388805009428/image.png?ex=671946e8&is=6717f568&hm=ed9abeb427af03250f9c56969ed03902d7b49c6cf815acf12f7c05aea7c6171e& [18:57:45] @agentisai ^ can you take a look? [18:58:04] hmm that’s odd [18:58:09] will do in some minutes [18:58:27] some additional information but edits themselves submit just fine [18:58:54] Huh [18:58:55] That’s new [19:57:41] What kind of stuff do I put on a general disclaimer page? [19:58:51] What kinda wiki @ghaztliousmoths [19:59:47] Example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer though [19:59:54] Thanks [20:00:50] It's for the Furby Wiki cuz it's not going to be worked on the same as my other 2 [20:00:54] disclaimers usually mean "take on your risk/we have no responsibility and take no blame" [20:01:41] Where would be a good place for stating rules about plagiarising [20:02:22] A content policy [20:02:26] copyrights page [20:02:48] You get a special prize if you don't change the font, text colour or size [20:03:31] And yes I've seen this from a uni student @ghaztliousmoths [20:03:45] Damn [20:03:59] how I done on my wiki: I've made disclaimer and page about copyright, and linked them both on About [20:04:19] Can I have a link to it to view it? [20:04:38] They failed that assignment. They tried to deny it as well. [20:05:02] 😭 [20:05:03] content policy or code of conduct cand be made and linked the same way, but I just linked to miraheze policies on Meta lol [20:05:14] [20:05:26] Thank youuu [20:47:11] is mh being slow rn or is it my end? [22:01:36] It's loading at a normal speed for me, but I keep finding new HTTP 500 errors [22:05:20] [1/3] in addition to the above I mentioned previously, trying to open an image in Media Viewer also returns an error (e.g., ), though viewing the File page itself is totally fine, and that attemping to search something, at least on the CriticalRole wiki returns an inter [22:05:20] [2/3] nal error [22:05:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298406867189370910/image.png?ex=67197320&is=671821a0&hm=4178b81bc0606d5023191ceae8590464412649ebe347b6b00f58322a14e32ad2& [22:13:20] Can you try again? [22:13:23] should be fixed [22:15:09] yes! re-performed all the previous actions and they all worked this time [22:15:12] big thanks [22:17:18] no problem [22:24:07] [1/2] still doesn't work for me 😭 [22:24:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298411592479801364/Screenshot_2024-10-22_at_17.19.27.png?ex=67197786&is=67182606&hm=fc8b8d9bdd8732738133de183a029a22717ced08b2dc82f615100a9ffd18f944& [22:25:08] https://buk.miraheze.org [22:25:45] Hmmmm [22:25:59] open a task on [[phorge]] if you havent [22:25:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge [22:26:00] [22:26:39] it'll get burried in with the rest [22:26:54] it's an opcache corruption but I already restarted php-fpm [22:27:36] I've restarted once again [22:30:30] it works now tysm! [22:32:54] merged in to another task [22:33:05] any idea what the root cause it [22:33:57] no that was @ghoulean’s task [22:33:59] my bad [22:34:03] 'sah [22:34:05] What happened [22:36:26] [[task:T12796]], agent did something that should fix it [22:36:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/task:T12796 [22:36:27] [22:37:21] Thanks. When can I expect the fix to finish deploying/propagating/whatever it's doing? [22:37:21] Whoops [22:37:45] Donfather said it works for him [22:37:50] and its just restarting php so [22:37:56] should work [22:38:07] [1/2] Well, it's still broken on my end [22:38:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298415116706119762/image.png?ex=67197acf&is=6718294f&hm=d26942f3ab310303513975039f326f51326e427b47e8e2ee445d6353e0eb2241& [22:38:17] No discernable changes from before [22:39:03] Donfather's error, or symptoms at least, seems different from ours [22:40:36] indeeed [22:40:50] one was a php issue, another a CirrusSearch issue [22:41:44] Gotcha. I think I got mixed up during this conversation, somehow [22:41:45] My bad [22:42:33] how do i make templates [22:42:53] same [22:43:12] [[mw:Help:Templates]] its a page starting with Template: [22:43:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [22:43:13] [22:43:26] thanks [23:29:02] is there a way to invoke the name of a page in a template [23:33:18] like this [23:33:33] {{ARTICLENAME}} is a stub [23:33:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:ARTICLENAME [23:33:44] Yea [23:33:54] [[mw:Help:Magic words]] [23:33:54] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words [23:33:55]