[00:47:13] agreed [00:47:16] please do [02:29:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298835606755086367/phonto.png?ex=671b026b&is=6719b0eb&hm=40885b86614cb0a720faf5367a84a61b56e369d91168a65ae5d8d84061e5dac6& [02:29:13] Do you like my background for my new Wiki [03:20:10] Is there a way to make the popups always choose the first image, or will they always choose by voting? [04:34:37] just created a test account and forgot the password for it :sobby: [04:34:43] worst thing was i didnt put an email on it [04:37:39] Consider that gone, then [04:46:00] you can try force an image w/ wikiseo syntax, which is usually done for seo/reposted link preview, but I'm not sure if it really affects popups [06:04:30] in an infobox template, how do i make it so that if its placed in main or "Legacy" namespace, it will put it into a category (e.g Category:Gamemodes, Category:Maps, etc) [06:28:08] anyone having problems w/ loading? [06:29:06] nvm [06:30:01] [1/3] w/ namespace codes, w/ main namespace: [06:30:01] [2/3] `{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|0 [06:30:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23ifeq:Template:%7b%7bNAMESPACENUMBER [06:30:01] [3/3] |[[Category:...]]}}` [06:30:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:... [06:30:39] to see custom namespaces' codes, go to their individual settings - number will appear in URL [06:31:37] [1/2] default namespaces can be checked here [06:31:37] [2/2] [07:45:21] [1/2] what extension is this? [07:45:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298915221452099594/image0.jpg?ex=671b4c91&is=6719fb11&hm=a732f56010c4ada007c7d390e37fb4331b62194e4aeea8b2b7470d7cbf4df59e& [07:47:59] [1/2] it's not an extension, it's a gadget called HotCat [07:47:59] [2/2] gadget are JS script which can be neatly integrated into user settings, they require special setup [07:48:12] ah [07:49:31] [1/4] so, interesting observation [07:49:32] [2/4] I use an anti DPI app as an alternative to VPN, it particularly works w/ Discord, but can't jump over Twitter, for example [07:49:32] [3/4] and shouldn't affect not blocked sites, but since yesterday Miraheze fails to load until I turn the app off [07:49:32] [4/4] :ThinkerMH: [07:50:19] there's an instruction how to add, I just can't remember how lol [07:54:32] i just imported them lol [07:56:50] after setup you need to enable it in your user preferences [08:23:32] [1/2] Whenever i try to import the xml file from Fandom to my new miraheze wiki, it keeps crashing and i've tried doing this for awhile now. Any way to fix this? Or get an Miraheze dev to do it for me? [08:23:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298924827670872085/image.png?ex=671b5583&is=671a0403&hm=8cc340cdb7e64aa2cc1c80640e82786fd5f6b0435e3c2bdb16e548d3920923c9& [08:25:29] are you trying to import the entire wiki? [08:25:33] yea [08:25:47] the original wiki from fandom only had like [08:25:49] 49 pages [08:25:56] and it wasnt even that long anyways [08:26:03] [1/2] tbh Special:Import often crashes, we suggest to request even w/ set of templates [08:26:03] [2/2] wait a sec, I'll find the link [08:26:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298925545060438111/image.png?ex=671b562e&is=671a04ae&hm=664b183832ac4e810db12a03dc06c70ad4c522dc32eff160889a839698a51a4a& [08:26:58] ^ [08:27:34] ah alright, thanks! [09:00:22] yooo my wiki was validated!! [09:04:47] Same!! [09:04:51] Im rlly happy [09:05:00] Plus fandom is shit [09:07:24] agreed [09:07:33] been using it for 4 years and people kept complaning about the ads [09:07:40] it made me sad because i was hosting my wb project on it [09:07:47] so yeah it was about time that i was leaving [09:08:42] [1/2] my xml file with all file historics is 29,6 mo big and i wrote it all alone [09:08:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298936195115646976/image.png?ex=671b6019&is=671a0e99&hm=064b5e5de13a37ca42d4a71f570162312bb18266b3918b82e20beb8de12dd074& [09:08:56] i mean technically some parts of it weren't made by me but it's like 3 pages out of 1030 [09:11:50] They legit banned my wiki cuz they thought I wasn’t notable [09:11:57] It was about my yt channel btw [09:12:18] They say they banned it because it was about an “personal YouTube channel with real people behind it” [09:12:21] It’s so bullshit [09:12:40] i think its because they want wikis made about people which are like [09:12:42] very famous [09:12:43] And that’s my YouTube channel… where I didn’t even give out any of my personal information at all [09:12:44] like 10k+ [09:12:47] i've been making my wiki about my personal project for 4 years and they never said anything about it [09:12:58] how many subs do you have [09:12:59] there’s still wikis made for smaller creators lol [09:13:03] agreed [09:13:04] 1,800 [09:13:15] in the french community we had a flea of Warrior fan wikis [09:13:17] They still kept my old wiki from 2022 where I had like 14 subs open btw [09:13:31] there was like at least two hundred of them and each could go from 2 to 15 pages lmao [09:13:37] And they kept other smaller creators like me wikis open as well [09:13:49] maybe it's too small for them to notice [09:14:09] i think the weirdest in my situation is that i'm literally classed in the top 100 or smth of the french wikis in size [09:14:19] yet i'm literally the only contributor of my wiki [09:14:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1298937658277498921/IMG_5264.jpg?ex=671b6176&is=671a0ff6&hm=0d4fddd4889c6d1c858bced81aba4ee1724907a81e89ab58565c10a9b78d5411& [09:15:15] notice how they responded in just a minute [09:15:39] i don't know your yt channel so i can't really judge [09:16:15] Not alot of people know [09:16:22] I haven’t posted on it in a year [09:16:33] Last time I uploaded a vid on it I was 13 [09:17:13] so you're 14 rn [09:17:38] Yea [09:17:49] No, wait 2009 [09:17:53] 15 [09:17:54] Fuck [09:18:13] 🤨 [09:24:50] what's "DummyFandoomMainpageTags" [09:25:22] ehh how to connect all poles at same time [09:27:42] or "geocrumbs" [09:38:25] you can click them to find out [09:38:29] in their documentstion [09:38:54] [1/2] the way Fandom monitors wiki is very sporadic [09:38:54] [2/2] I saw plenty of reports of personal projects or tabletop wikis getting closed over the years, but rn I'm certain there's some kind of more coordinated ban wave going on in the last couple of months [09:39:32] the previous ban wave was in 2021 when they finalised rebranding and introduced more strict rules [09:40:11] Miraheze quite a flood of requests back then, and right now we are getting much more [09:40:17] i did but i couldn't get a lot of info on it* [09:40:32] dummyfandoommainpagetags is like [09:40:38] basically the tags fandom uses for mainpage [09:40:44] also for popups, it asks me to have the "PageImages" extension which i cannot find in any list [09:40:50] oh alright [09:40:54] have u searched it [09:41:11] its in Extensions > API [09:41:26] oh yes [09:41:31] but it is there already [09:41:50] well nvm [09:41:55] it somehow let me do that now [09:42:28] [1/2] i just gotta wait until my pages get uploaded by the Miraheze staff! [09:42:28] [2/2] i feel bad for asking them to do that but it's the fastest way it can be fdone [09:43:53] also, thank you very much for your answer [09:44:07] bear in mind that popus is quite enigma, it might take days to start working [09:44:32] don't feel bad or we wouldn't have that request page lol [09:44:58] again, Special:Import, default MediaWiki thing, is quite weak [09:45:32] honestly it would be cool if it worked, but it isn't my main concern :P [09:46:06] yeah i had to ask them for an importation because my file is like 26mo [09:46:29] even the version without the previous pages is a little bigger than 2mo [09:46:46] > rn I'm certain there's some kind of more coordinated ban wave going on in the last couple of months [09:46:46] Their recent policy as well as technical changes would suggest the reason for this is advertisers clamping down on content they don't want their ads be near. Slur policy, removal of ads on many different types of content that could be offensive. I'd bet this is connected with whatever effort at removing certain type of wikis there is. [09:47:59] yeah, we saw in august a brand safety report, that was my first thought when I started seeing people talking about their wikis getting nuked more often [09:48:22] you're talking about fandom? [09:48:29] yeah [09:49:58] well if it was the case of KaptainK, my wiki wasn't banned at all. i chose to leave because whenever i want to show the wiki to others, they get spammed with ads. also, the wiki marks my work as part of the CC commons and i couldn't change that even though i kept looking for a solution to this [09:50:03] [1/2] but frankly, it's Fandom own fault - there's no moderation on wiki creation, like Trig said in his last video it's too easy to start a wiki, AND there's not enough "real time" moderation of content of the wiki, some wikis get vandalized for years and they don't know about it [09:50:03] [2/2] not to mention they cut out portion of paid stuff by shutting down wiki rep program [09:50:28] holy shit the more i dive into miraheze extensions the more i love this site goddamni [09:50:40] so many things that will make my work easier [09:50:41] how long do steward reqs normally take [09:52:02] may i ask, is there a specific, or a preferred extention for collecting data like views, edits or most searched words per day just like the admin dashboard in fandom? [09:52:13] special:analytics [09:52:32] also, i gotta say that the Fandom dahsboard been broken for me for around a year now, it stopped counting my visits so the numbers were always super low lmao [09:52:38] addendum: the fact that their anti spam/vandalism team consists of volunteers and not paid staff 🙃 [09:52:46] so it is the same as fandom? nice [09:53:26] oh it's empty cuz my wiki was made today lol [09:54:07] kiiiind of, Miraheze uses Matomo, it's like non invasive version of Google Analytics, roughly speaking [09:54:24] incredible [09:54:54] damn i'm gonna have to go soon but honestly i cannot wait to remake a logo for my wiki i feel like i'm starting anew but with all my previous work [09:54:56] it feels amazing [09:55:30] [1/2] I admit that Fandom's analytics page looks nicer amd some stats more proper but uh [09:55:30] [2/2] guess why [09:56:20] i don't know? [09:56:24] they steal data from us [09:57:10] 💯 [09:57:32] honestly i prefer having less data if that respect the users than having cool looking data that steals from user [09:59:13] Hello [09:59:16] for the skin of my site i have no idea if i should start a new one or try to keep the one i had with Oasis and take the Cosmos Extention [09:59:20] hey! [09:59:22] > the fact that their anti spam/vandalism team consists of volunteers and not paid staff 🙃 [09:59:22] Exploitation of volunteer workforce at Fandom is an enormous topic. *cough cough* And yes, absolutely agreed, they should have paid staff to handle those tasks. They don't even expand any resources to do proper training for their volunteer team around dealing with harassment and OPSEC - something that is common to deal with when you remove vandalism. [09:59:33] how do i add pages to my wiki 🖍️ [09:59:51] yeah! It made me sad for them [09:59:56] ako bobo [10:00:33] Hi! You can add pages to your wiki by searching the title and clicking the link that says "Create the page XYZ on this wiki!" [10:00:54] Halaman (thank you) [10:02:13] you should try citizen [10:02:16] very clean skin [10:04:39] i don't see timeless in the list [10:07:04] you can also make an "create new page" box or link so you won't have to juggle w/ search and red links [10:07:26] it's strange that it's not default thing in MediaWiki but oh well [10:07:42] also Cosmos skin has new page button by itself [10:08:28] Timeless is a built-in skin, you don't need to enable it, it's already in styling settings [10:08:59] Timeless is my fave skin tbh [10:09:14] its a built in skin [10:10:11] [1/2] you can also preview skin w/o settings by adding to URL [10:10:12] [2/2] `?useskin=Timeless` [10:10:14] Ohh [10:10:34] Thanks I'll check that out when I'll be back home [10:10:40] but that's only w/ built-in or enabled skins [10:10:47] I might try to make my own skin if that's possible [10:10:50] i.e. what is allowed by settings [10:11:00] Yeah [10:12:03] [1/2] the point is that users can change their preferred skin in personal settings [10:12:04] [2/2] but admin can also limit available skins [10:12:13] including built-in ones [10:13:11] building a whole new skin is a bit tedious task, but you can modify existing one w/ CSS and JS, and pretty often it might be enough [10:13:58] pizzatower.wiki is a heavily modified Timeless, for example [10:16:08] [1/3] Hi, wondering if I could get some help with customising my new wiki? [10:16:09] [2/3] This is my first time editing a wiki and I'm having real trouble getting the logo to work. It took a while to show up when I first added it, then it vanished. I haven't been able to get it to come back since. [10:16:09] [3/3] The guide says that the logo url should have the word "static" in it but I can't find a url for the image in that format anywhere? Could that be the cause? [10:17:05] is your wiki private? cus in private wikis files get different URL (the guide is missing that bit) [10:17:22] yes [10:17:40] but it has to be raw file link always for logo, favicon, etc [10:18:48] [1/2] thing is, logged out and non member users probably won't see logo too [10:18:48] [2/2] but you can't see even logged in? [10:19:35] No I was logged in the entire time. It was there one moment then if vanished [10:19:49] the only thing I did that could have affected it was that I set the same image as the favicon? [10:19:55] would "https://mywiki.miraheze.org/w/img_auth.php/a/a1/examplefilename.png" be the right format btw? [10:19:55] on the same device? [10:19:59] yes [10:20:04] shouldn't affect it [10:20:56] I haven't had a private wiki in a hot minute, but I believe so [10:21:17] skin and image size might play role thk [10:21:20] the favicon does still display btw [10:21:24] if that's relevant [10:21:31] which skin? [10:21:40] the default one [10:22:12] can someone check please my updated reqest for wiki socialism2024 that i added 8 days ago? [10:22:15] I didn't resize it to the recommended dimensions so perhaps it's that? [10:23:06] I don't understand Vector 2022 behaviour w/ logo, but it's usually works w/ wordmark instead, a long horizontal logo, can contain name of the wiki and its size is changeable in settings [10:23:35] logo size should be 135x135 px but again, I'm not sure if it's relevant for Vector 2022 [10:27:29] [1/4] Hello, again [10:27:29] [2/4] How do i change my wikis icon (like hellmet) [10:27:29] [3/4] Im very dumb [10:27:29]