[00:15:37] what legroom said [00:16:00] you could also use the PortableInfoboxes extension which IMO makes stuff way easier [00:59:24] [[Infoboxes]] [00:59:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [00:59:25] [01:43:25] Mi [01:55:05] {{Refreshed theme}} [01:55:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Refreshed_theme [01:55:06] [02:24:36] can i add transitions to collapsible table stuff? [02:44:26] [1/2] I hate wikis that do this 💀 [02:44:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300651428569809009/Screenshot_20241028_194356.png?ex=67219d89&is=67204c09&hm=57c2889e77a8ed35fa760e50e7c17d1f17a59b9fb1db5691675fd791b688aa5c& [02:44:43] Like the Minerva Skin is there for a reason 💀 [02:47:11] [1/2] Wikipedia is hosted on Miraheze confirmed?? [02:47:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300652123750531152/Screenshot_20241028_194640.png?ex=67219e2f&is=67204caf&hm=249454c27b99795466e377faf2017fe52cc54ab4818a09c9f5e88c808963f950& [02:49:28] not cool man :( that hurts [03:31:33] [1/2] Yea um how do ya change these icons? [03:31:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300663288165564427/Screenshot_20241028_162730.png?ex=6721a895&is=67205715&hm=7eb3b7329da82d8e152e4cfdb0f8788e97c7807113dd0229615f3dfd59a8a34d& [03:31:46] The transparent ones just to say [03:38:05] I've seen online converter thingy + you can make in visual editor, I believe? [03:38:35] upload replacement for them, then change in CSS [03:38:59] alternatively, remove transparency + invert [06:07:43] yall uhh, how do i add a slash in my page name without it turning into a subpage [06:20:44] in namespace settings disable subpages, I believe [06:21:19] normal pages, w/o : prefixes, is main namespace [06:27:10] a [06:27:12] nvm [06:27:24] if it doesnt have a root page it will be thje root [07:26:54] [1/2] does anyone know a fast way i can transport images from fandom to my miraheze wiki and also to fix some left over code from the database dump [07:26:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300722515664175124/image.png?ex=6721dfbd&is=67208e3d&hm=fcb475d63ed1b9f45807c4cee64080e67166bf665873b2ff2beca5f235f7fc47& [07:28:47] That code looks like Tabber and PortableInfobox [07:28:58] ill send an image form the original wiki 1 sec [07:29:00] You might just need to turn some extensions on and then purge the pages [07:29:18] [1/2] this is the original [07:29:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300723118880591926/image.png?ex=6721e04d&is=67208ecd&hm=cedd47a38312d51f8e61d9bc20f7aa7f1aff068b616049f44ac29c9e2a08973f& [07:29:18] The images if you've got an archive file with them all in then we can import them [07:29:42] Ye that's the Tabber extension and PortableInfobox [07:29:48] You can turn them extensions on [07:29:54] where do i find that [07:30:15] Special:ManageWiki/extensions [07:30:39] which tab would thoese 2 exstension be in [07:30:55] [1/2] is it this [07:30:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300723525816025118/image.png?ex=6721e0ae&is=67208f2e&hm=be3589154b028f6a58e4b7451b6d321f58496eeccb7c80867f6ded26e090e570& [07:31:04] [1/2] and this [07:31:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300723565565579366/image.png?ex=6721e0b8&is=67208f38&hm=5a1774481c0293201c9d4957a148236a69c62b9b1016efb784f63c34c4fb6e49& [07:31:58] [1/2] ok im getting somewhere [07:31:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300723790497447968/image.png?ex=6721e0ed&is=67208f6d&hm=55f6acd265f569db23e479c20aa49ac0229511aa1038ff6548c7ed21d7d3ed77& [07:31:59] That is both of them yep [07:32:20] the tabs them self wont load tho [07:32:21] You might need to purge or null edit the page [07:32:31] so redo the entire page? [07:32:43] oh also how do i get an archive file [07:32:57] No, you can just edit it and press save without making any change [07:33:05] oh [07:33:20] [1/2] alr did that but tabs wont load [07:33:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300724137823698944/image.png?ex=6721e140&is=67208fc0&hm=0b4b4fe161c4a9235f0ed584846e662cbc09234d5fddc0b25c73aa6281365e01& [07:33:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze#WikiTeam3 [07:34:00] Ok that's weird [07:34:21] @MediaWiki Support Volunteers: can someone take a look? And can someone also help with a wikiteam3 from fandom? [07:34:39] alr lemme look [07:34:39] I'm on the bus to work [07:35:28] on inbox templates make a small edit (like add or remove a line break), then on normal pages purge if they didn't update [07:35:30] im new to wikis esp on miraheze [07:35:57] for wikiteambot ping Pixl [07:36:14] @babydemolitionist create a thread in #support [07:36:31] And link to where the original wiki was [07:36:43] And I'll get our magicians to help with importing images [07:36:46] ty [07:36:53] And we'll help you with any other questions [07:38:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300725332676055041/image.png?ex=6721e25d&is=672090dd&hm=4b5e9c9810152d5da0122d7a4ebe5d3aa2c2bec64c5f4faf692d4511b07fcbb6& [07:38:06] said i cant [07:38:46] #verify maybe [07:39:18] worked [12:05:58] Later i probably can do the dump [12:29:33] Pillar Chase. [12:29:45] Is this move endorsed by the fandom team? Are you one of their leads? [12:29:49] yes [12:29:55] i’m not in the admin team but it is endorsed yet [12:29:59] i asked for permission [12:30:04] and they approved it [12:30:15] What a colossal coincidence [12:30:22] :loveyou: welcome to mirahexe [12:30:22] why [12:30:26] thank you [12:30:30] do you know pillar chase [12:30:33] I’m actually the bureaucrat of the pressure wiki [12:30:37] OHH [12:30:39] https://urbanshade.org [12:30:41] IVE EDJTED [12:30:42] ON THAT [12:30:47] Big dog :3 [12:30:51] Ty for your contribution [12:30:53] i have alot of edits on that [12:30:57] i don’t remember how many [12:30:58] but he [12:31:16] Would you wanna join a discord server for other Roblox wikis off of fandom? [12:31:22] You’d probably get some good advice there [12:31:25] yea sure [12:31:29] Dms [12:31:39] speaking of which... [12:31:52] is there any possibility for the main roblox wiki to move off from fandom? [12:32:00] I have no clue [12:32:07] But I’d guess they wouldn’t make the shift [12:32:19] it’d take a lot of time so i’m not sure [12:32:34] A good lot of Roblox fandom wikis have pretty established fandom message wall communities [12:32:40] With whole little community ecosystems [12:32:42] And whatnot [12:32:44] theres so many requests for roblox.miraheze.org so prolly not [12:32:49] theyd probably ask weird gloop [12:32:55] nobody has used my message wall for a year [12:32:56] weird gloop is allowing new wikis now [12:32:56] I think that that’s a massive chain tying them down [12:32:58] Damn wtf [12:33:02] wait wait [12:33:04] Why is the whole gang here [12:33:11] the poachers.... [12:33:25] Family reunion [12:33:38] Gather around let’s take a group photo [12:33:45] ooh weirdgloop has a new blogpost [12:34:00] ✌️ [12:34:46] link? [12:35:03] https://weirdgloop.org/blog/why-were-helping-more-wikis-move-away-from-fandom [12:37:49] wait that's old lol [12:38:38] i havent seen it [12:38:39] sorrys!! [12:39:05] I doubt weird gloop would ever host a Roblox wiki [12:48:02] if they'll lock out all social like features, maybe [12:48:10] lol [12:51:28] the little kiddos woudnt know what a talk page is..... heh....... [13:07:43] Never trusting them with the talk page. [13:08:10] limit talk pages to sysop, hide link w/ css [13:19:55] [1/3] Hi, when doing an inclusion of Special:NewestPages [13:19:55] [2/3] Do you know how to hide redirects from the inclusion. [13:19:56] [3/3] For example i have: `{{Special:Newestpages/-/5}}` on another page and shows the five most recent pages. But i don't want redirects to show. [13:19:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Template:Newestpages/-/5 [15:07:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300838403197243482/image0.jpg?ex=67224bab&is=6720fa2b&hm=114f95bc9c71014ea3709aecb00fc854ef5359ad7edefef30a305fdb686f7dff& [15:09:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300838837269823519/image0.jpg?ex=67224c13&is=6720fa93&hm=95039a28b7fdc104916c053403bf81f9cfa0ed5ff178a1f4a000087bce924cb9& [15:13:33] hmmmmm [15:14:42] where these appeared or what you were doing? and are these images borked? [15:15:02] wdym borked [15:15:08] broken lol [15:15:33] [1/2] i was mass uploading files and theyre not broken [15:15:33] [2/2] i was confused [15:15:46] mass unloading w/ which extension? [15:15:48] seems to be all ok now tho [15:32:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300844608313495612/image.png?ex=67225173&is=6720fff3&hm=6e7fc9d3d47f27cb8b0e96df4f3c3fba47da94d746eebae634ead13fa5b12227& [15:32:40] I think Miraheze is down again. I am just getting “timed out” errors before even getting to the error page. [15:33:46] #announcements [15:34:11] ah i was wondering what that was abut [15:34:16] So we aren't alone [15:34:19] some down detector was lying to me and said that it was only a me issue [15:34:42] Thanks for pointing this out! Sometimes it’s working and sometimes it’s not. [15:34:58] Down detectors don’t really work too feel with these cause they’re normally only for a short while [15:35:20] Looks like it’s already recovering https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/808001911868489748/1300845344392871944 [15:35:50] It has been 0 days since the last server issue. [15:35:58] dude stop [15:36:32] Sorry! Also, being called dude triggers me, as my mom tends to call me that when she has to tell me something. [15:49:16] Welp, do we know what kind of issue that is? And how long it will last? [15:50:35] Further volunteers will be coming online shortly to assist in working that out [15:50:39] No ETA yet [15:50:59] We'll let you know once we have anything [15:52:31] is miraheze down [15:52:46] it's taking forever for a page to load for me and everything else is loading fine [15:53:09] @lupe1512 please read above [15:53:31] ah I see [15:53:41] I read the announcements [16:01:42] I'm aware of the incident due to my status monitor =| [16:06:08] We're working with our infrastructure provider to investigate [16:19:24] Not our fault? [16:23:20] hmmm, miraheze on timeout again? [16:24:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300857736908767305/image.png?ex=67225dad&is=67210c2d&hm=aa96d59571328ca34f463da269dd941fbc062fa4e7253e92b4214dc41a857e5b& [16:24:23] #announcements [16:24:36] kk [16:25:29] seems working now [16:25:50] I just received notice from my monitor [16:26:04] @rhinosf1 who has access to https://status.wikitide.net [16:26:18] I do [16:26:35] Yay [16:26:36] Maybe not [16:26:45] Better then normal [16:27:38] reception and UO have active invitations, and any other board/tech team members can be invited on request [16:28:25] How does the director and deputy director of tech not have access yet [16:28:32] Well invited but [16:29:12] I set it up, they have invites, up to them to accept [16:29:57] Oh [16:30:18] Mac is our outreach manager at this point [16:31:47] ...and the uptime didn't last long [16:37:31] Yes [16:40:15] Thank you to everyone who worked to solve the problem! 🙂 [17:08:25] @rhinosf1 is it resolved? If so should make another announcement [17:08:48] Unconfirmed [17:09:13] Jolly good! [17:09:21] MacFan4000: ^ [17:23:09] wiki works for me [18:09:39] What is wrong with Miraheze this time? 🙂 [18:11:04] No our fault probably [18:18:41] What happened? [19:07:06] What happened? [19:10:21] Tech is still working w/ our provider to determine [19:20:13] They mixed up my domain with another wiki [19:20:33] So I have question [19:20:56] Do they still respond to comments if the ticket is “completed” [19:22:18] Yeah, it was a provider problem [19:22:47] WikiForge also went down and it’s on the same rack [19:24:53] @mr.rockafire I fixed it [19:25:16] Thanks [19:25:28] But what is miraheze relay [19:25:51] Wait [19:25:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300903459209482290/IMG_2015.png?ex=67228842&is=672136c2&hm=eb2358f28bf32f59eb590022375d02d133fefcc3a4091e41f5c1db2e0559260c& [19:25:55] it connects out main two chat platforms together [19:26:07] discord and Internet relay chat (IRC) [19:26:24] It’s still isint on my wiki. [19:26:57] Sptwiki.miraheze.org [19:28:58] It’s fixed! [19:29:05] Thank you!!! [19:30:39] it'll be down to caching [19:41:55] Strange, it redirects to the correct wiki on chrome, but not on safari. [20:03:56] [1/4] Hey guys. [20:03:56] [2/4] I'm importing my old wiki to my Miraheze wiki. [20:03:56] [3/4] If I check this option and set a category as the target page, will it automatically attach these pages to this category, or will it be a full-fledged sub-page (with a slash)? [20:03:57] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300913029654773860/image.png?ex=6722912c&is=67213fac&hm=cbd774db74f6bc3239db697ff73492a26b87b83336980e2e9ef5aa75b4086d60& [20:04:49] This is why hetzner is the best ❤️ [20:04:51] That will import all your pages as subpages of the category page, which is probably not what you want [20:05:10] [1/2] Well, then, I'll just import them one-by-one and set the category for them manually [20:05:11] [2/2] Thanks! [20:05:15] you are trying to import page by page? [20:05:19] XML [20:05:29] Chosen few pages from my fandom wiki [20:05:48] not the full dump you want, you mean? [20:06:18] No, I made an XML dump of a few chosen pages. [20:09:42] should I bother to categorize on my wiki images hooked from WM Commons? 🤔 [20:10:41] on your wiki? no [20:13:07] local descriptions on top of Commons image is usually not a good idea, it probably will break when the file is moved from Commons side [20:13:22] (file link will survive but your local desc will not, IIRC) [20:14:17] i see, thanks [20:14:30] np [20:20:23] Is it possible to merge two categories into one? [20:21:07] Will changing the title of one category cause all related pages to change their category name, or will it simply create another category? [20:23:49] renaming category doesn't affect pages in that category, they will stay w/ old name either as redirect or red link [20:23:59] Makes sense [20:24:39] Considering the help page for Categories doesn't list any sort of merging function (with redirected categories being a very far stretch), I assume it's impossible [20:24:49] No matter, everything is doable manually [20:28:52] yes, manual labor [20:28:55] you can use pywikibot or autowikibrowser for mass edits, I used for exactly such case [20:29:00] while there's existing scripts for automation [20:29:03] ^ [20:32:42] yaaaaaaay manual labor /sar [20:33:06] or [[wp:JWB]] for in browser if it works [20:33:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wp:JWB [20:33:07] [20:33:41] `category.py move` ftw [20:59:43] Hey revi [20:59:56] ih ih [21:00:15] How you doing [21:00:20] prolly fine? [21:00:34] Cool [21:01:43] some stuff unfit for logged channel but generally fine [21:02:04] Feel free to pm [21:23:15] I'm still waiting for my wiki to be approved, so I don't know how Miraheze actually works. [21:23:23] It has a visual editor, right? [21:23:32] How does it work, and how much can you do with it? [21:23:37] If you selelct the add on in ManageWiki you can have it [21:24:13] Where is the ManageWiki? [21:24:32] In the settings of a wiki? [21:24:46] Mine's not approved yet, so idk what you're talking about. [21:24:48] it's an admin dashboard, you'll see it on your wiki [21:24:54] appears in sidebar [21:24:55] Ok. [21:25:08] you can check setting pages on other wikis anyway tho [21:25:25] just won't be able to change stuff in them, cus no admin lol [21:25:57] for example [21:26:38] VisualEditor is in Editors tab [21:27:04] Holy shit. This is a tonne of settings. [21:27:09] Nice. [21:27:47] those are just extensions, features already installed on Miraheze, individual wiki admins can turn on/off what their wikis need [21:27:56] there are other types of settings too [21:28:15] see [[ManageWiki]] [21:28:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki [21:28:16] [21:28:28] So, you should be able to do anything, right? And shouldn't be limited by anything? [21:29:15] well, there are some limits, but Miraheze is much more free than Fandom in that regard [21:29:40] Nice. [21:29:55] So, way less restrictions than Fandom? [21:30:01] w/ extensions alone, Fandom offers only 40 something and won't let you to disable or enable something, you can only ask same something [21:30:07] yup [21:30:31] Ok. [21:30:33] Also, in the Discover Wikis, why can you search private wikis? [21:30:54] Aren't private wikis not supposed to be visible, even for the search? [21:30:54] why would you need to search private wikis? [21:31:02] their existence is not private [21:31:03] nope, they are private after all [21:31:07] what is private is their contents [21:31:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300935056856191106/image.png?ex=6722a5af&is=6721542f&hm=948cea74a82bf7139c1c4a85d16e6a329878dcafdbbf856e08b64021c81ca29d& [21:31:31] Why do they appear? [21:31:45] ah I misread your message [21:31:56] because you need to know which wiki exist to avoid duplicates? [21:32:20] But I can open and read the private wikis? [21:32:25] of course nope [21:32:39] maybe the main page, but beyond that you need the authorization [21:32:59] only whatever is set as main page [21:33:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1300935481722278030/image.png?ex=6722a615&is=67215495&hm=9c3e507c7246b2d9abd8a4dd58c677916d3debb277a371e30558cf988713ac8e& [21:33:11] Oh, yeah. [21:33:13] Okay. [21:33:25] I tried to enter a link through the Main page. [21:33:41] and you lack the permission. [21:33:52] Nice. [21:34:05] Btw, who is using this bot to chat? [21:34:14] Someone from the old good IRC [21:34:35] this bot transfers messages between discord and IRC, another chat platform [21:34:49] Who is also here actually. [21:34:54] What? This is a cross-platform communications? [21:34:58] yup [21:35:07] Wow. [21:35:17] Nice. [21:35:25] some people prefer IRC, some don't like Discord at all [21:35:27] Didn't know this existed. [21:35:40] for me, just where I was chatting at the given moment [21:35:53] Ok. [21:36:21] amma need sleep bye [21:36:23] If I don't want anything to be visible to people, can I just have a blank "Main Page"? [21:36:27] Byw. [21:36:30] Of course. [21:37:00] yeah, you can also create a fake main page to be linked from real blank main page [21:37:01] and in theory you can unset the exception for main page, but I have been away from MH for a long time that if tech ppl allows it [21:37:25] so members will be able to see "proper" fake main page [21:37:36] *only [21:37:44] (ie. see https://steward.wikimedia.org ) [21:37:59] Oh, I see. [21:38:15] Just a blank page with a button to redirect. [21:38:17] Cool. [21:40:02] oh hello revi [21:40:31] Yeah hi [21:40:48] (Had to check here because irc side shows just username, no nickz) [21:40:58] ah lol [21:41:43] ye old libera [21:42:08] not really [21:42:13] Freenode. [21:43:46] No? [21:43:53] this is libera [21:43:58] unless you mean the good old part [21:44:17] yeah, good old. [21:44:23] until early 2020s. [21:52:06] Also, on the mobile web page, when you request a wiki and click Submit, what's supposed to happen? [21:53:04] Because I say I'm waiting for it to be approved, but yesterday, when I "Submitted" it, nothing happened. And I clicked it 3 more times, waited 5 minutes and then left, because there was no visual confirmation of the submission. [21:53:23] Is something supposed to actually say that it's been submitted, or nothing? [22:11:04] check [[Special:RequestWikiQueue]] and enter your username [22:11:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue [22:11:04]