[00:05:09] [1/2] If part of a data field, you can use ` /format` to customise how it looks completely, accepts any normal wikitext [00:05:10] [2/2] If anywhere else the ` ` tag exists instead, that can be placed anywhere in the infobox, which again accepts any normal wikitext [00:05:39] I’ll try those out, thanks :IC: [00:26:13] hi, just so i know before i start fleshing out my wiki - is there a commonly used guide for newbies that i should know about? [00:26:46] this is my first time doing anything with mediawiki, even though i have tons of webdev knowledge [00:27:33] https://mediawiki.org is quite useful [00:28:48] alright, I'll take a look [00:32:25] some guides on meta too, depending on what you wan [00:34:31] I don't actually remember. [00:38:34] i'm mostly looking for something like "How to set up a homepage" or "how to make an infobox" [00:39:11] just tutorials on the things you don't think about when you think of making a wiki [00:42:02] pixldev: On review I structured sentences to avoid doing so (as you do in official writing) [00:48:08] [[Infobox]] [00:48:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infobox [00:48:09] [00:52:09] I ended up figuring it out so thanks again lmao. [00:59:25] Can I make the .miraheze.org not to be a redirect after applying for custom domain? [01:00:42] that domain will still works [01:00:51] but all the links will direct to the custom one [01:01:11] software limitation [01:01:17] if you call it that [01:04:04] :( [01:35:44] Does miraheze allow API requests from things like discord bots? [01:41:31] sure [01:41:41] Long as you’re respectful [01:41:46] okay awesome 🙏 [01:41:49] but we have rate limits to encourage that [01:41:50] it's just manual things [01:41:56] may i ask what you have in mind? [01:42:04] someone types /show [name] and it displays info about the thingy [01:42:13] not a big scraping thing by any means [01:42:25] just would request a single page each time the command is used [01:43:54] so like @Wiki-Bot ? [01:45:12] Yeah [02:06:23] feel free to add this bot to your own discord [02:07:42] The use is slightly different it looks like, it'll be copying data from an infobox [02:08:07] ... I didn't actually write the bot, it's currently being used with fandom articles and we're considering moving to miraheze [02:22:04] is there a way I can directly embed all 1-step-removed backlinks to a page? kind of like the `Special:Whatlinkshere` page, but just a plain list and only for pages with a single degree of separation. [02:34:46] [1/2] darn it mediawiki [02:34:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304635267528921159/image.png?ex=67301bc6&is=672eca46&hm=f0112f69989025123a0f98843bebb4e6859434564e7841739de0ddda26f4cbbc& [03:50:10] [1/5] I think I have to contact a steward. First, let me say that what I’m doing doesn’t exist on the wiki platform already, so it’s unique. [03:50:10] [2/5] One of my original goals for the SonTails Wiki was to archive all existing fan art of the ship. I’ve largely achieved that, although a few rare pieces remain difficult to locate. For the most part, though, I’ve managed to gather nearly all the art available. [03:50:11] [3/5] Another objective was to create dedicated artist pages, each describing different aspects of the SonTails ship. This led to a unique challenge with crossovers. Within the SonTails community, Tails is often a favorite character, so it's common for artists to ship him with others. A frequent pairing aside from Sonic is with Shadow, creating a separate ship entirely. [03:50:11] [4/5] While I could launch a new wiki specifically for the Shadow and Tails ship, doing so would mean splitting up art collections from artists who contribute to both pairings. To address this, I decided a few months ago to create a dedicated section within the SonTails Wiki for Shadow and Tails art, almost as its own “sub-wiki.” This way, each ship has a space, while keeping the wiki o [03:50:11] [5/5] rganized and preserving the context of each artist's work. [07:25:38] visual editor user [07:25:47] -100 aura [11:53:49] https://tenor.com/view/pee-wee-herman-gif-22499105 [13:17:44] How can I add description to Discord link embed? [13:18:11] e.g. in my wiki, description is shown as "." [13:18:16] I want to change them [13:18:56] >>> Articles must begin with the lead paragraph for an extract to be generated. The use of any template, and/or unclosed or empty HTML element may result in no preview for the article. E.g. "
/divhello" will give an empty extract. [13:19:06] maybe ch3ck https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TextExtracts [13:32:38] i understand, ill try something [15:04:05] wtf that is not the visual editor you fool [15:04:26] you can clearly see the header bar being a relic from monobook while VE uses codex [15:04:39] it's the 2010 sauce editor... [15:04:44] you soups will never understand [16:13:46] Please leave out the namecalling! [16:13:49] <.guardianx., replying to tomoru1741> [1/2] I asked somethign similar, you cans ee the conversation chain from here down: [16:13:49] <.guardianx., replying to tomoru1741> [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1304445626376786001 [16:16:55] <.guardianx.> [1/3] you can use: [16:16:55] <.guardianx.> [2/3] `w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=extracts&titles=PAGENAME-CHANGEME&formatversion=2&exchars=175` [16:16:55] <.guardianx.> [3/3] to see if the thing you did will work too [16:28:11] <.guardianx.> [1/6] What's strange to me is I have: [16:28:11] <.guardianx.> [2/6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Description2 [16:28:12] <.guardianx.> [3/6] and I want to make it so it pulls data from various pages for the linked description, but, even having that as the FIRST thing on the page: [16:28:12] <.guardianx.> [4/6] `{{#description2:ECOpedia the best (and only) Evercraft Wiki!}}{{Disclaimer}}
'''Welcome to the Evercraft Online Wiki'''/big` [16:28:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23description2:Template:ECOpedia_the_best_(and_only)_Evercraft_Wiki! [16:28:12] <.guardianx.> [5/6] yields this result: [16:28:13] <.guardianx.> [6/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304845002140029001/image.png?ex=6730df1b&is=672f8d9b&hm=fefb72311d7e9a57f0e915e747835363dfa41a3f4c18a2e8cb4c8a2aaabbc418& [16:59:05] <50_55> Sorry for the dumb question but how do I enable popups on my wiki? As in when you hover over a link to other articles on the wiki it shows a preview of it [17:01:38] it's an extension called Popups you can enable in Special:ManageWiki/extensions [17:01:55] <50_55, replying to anonymek> [1/2] I did but it doesn't work [17:01:55] <50_55, replying to anonymek> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304853488593010748/image.png?ex=6730e702&is=672f9582&hm=3778fdca8752eacaec8130e458dca4799c47567d042fa86a67f94ab09a2a087f& [17:02:56] May take a bit to kick in [17:03:06] Or it may be a bug I’ve seen [17:03:08] When did you enable [17:03:17] <50_55, replying to pixldev> I did it more than 16 hours ago [17:03:31] @anonymek #verify for links btw [17:03:44] Check Special:Version on your wiki [17:05:14] <50_55, replying to pixldev> [1/2] it lists the extension there [17:05:14] <50_55, replying to pixldev> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304854323498324048/image.png?ex=6730e7c9&is=672f9649&hm=e4b9bf55571126969c47ab67b73bd538e97ec6c45e9bb21a896d186d89a44fa6& [17:06:14] I uploaded a logo to my wiki sidebar and it appears for me when I’m logged in, but not when I look at it unlogged in on Incognito. I tried fixing this on MediaWiki:Sidebar but I couldn’t figure out how to edit it in. Does anyone know how to make it appear for all users? [17:06:42] Okay then it’s a bug [17:06:59] <50_55, replying to pixldev> what do I do? [17:07:29] I think it’s https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12857 [17:07:41] But I don’t understand it well enough to troubleshoot [17:08:19] <50_55, replying to pixldev> oh it's very fresh [17:08:23] Yep after checking I'm getting the popups on my end so the issue is elsewhere. [17:08:43] <50_55, replying to candlesign.4539> hm I tried on both firefox and edge and they don't work [17:09:10] <50_55> I even tried disabling adlock with no result [17:09:35] [1/2] `Special:ManageWiki/settings/popups#mw-section-styling` [17:09:35] [2/2] Check if Popups is set to the default display. [17:09:55] <50_55, replying to metal_pail> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304855502425165936/image.png?ex=6730e8e2&is=672f9762&hm=c25418e3bdb15a1f2006512c08ac7dfe5227bd61c15dc7367aa867d9ba755508& [17:10:25] Are you getting a console error similar to the one mentioned in the issue tracker report? [17:10:55] <50_55, replying to candlesign.4539> how do I check? [17:11:25] <50_55> though for me it's only the popups [17:11:33] Right click on the page, Inspect, then select the Console tab. [17:12:57] <50_55, replying to candlesign.4539> I don't see any errors similar to that from the report [17:13:18] <50_55> [1/2] ``` Layout was forced before the page was fully loaded. If stylesheets are not yet loaded this may cause a flash of unstyled content.``` [17:13:18] <50_55> [2/2] ```This page uses the non standard property “zoom”. Consider using calc() in the relevant property values, or using “transform” along with “transform-origin: 0 0”.``` [17:13:25] <50_55> that's all I have [17:14:01] Ok yeah I have the same and Popups do work so the issue must be somewhere else yet again. [17:14:24] <50_55, replying to candlesign.4539> I'll download chrome and check there brb [17:15:39] <50_55> no it seems to work on chrome [17:19:28] <50_55> must be a browser issue? [17:35:11] I'm not sure it's the same issue tbh [17:35:34] T12857 would normally be cause there's an exception. [17:36:19] Try clear your browser cache or in incognito [17:37:05] <50_55, replying to rhinosf1> i tried cleaning cache and it doesn't work in incognito after I just tried [17:37:15] [1/2] Do you have these disabled in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? [17:37:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304862381930709072/image.png?ex=6730ef4b&is=672f9dcb&hm=07fe42a8636aa46dc1534b7d63d87cbb871c18e17750e58261c473857566384c& [17:37:37] <50_55, replying to candlesign.4539> they're enabled [17:38:48] Oh well that's it I exhausted my ideas. I was mostly on the lookout for other reports of the jquery issue but beyond that I don't know much about how the extension works. [17:42:39] <50_55, replying to candlesign.4539> oh wait I just tried again in incognito and I can see the popups [17:45:59] <50_55> but not in normal mode [18:16:43] [1/2] Hello, I'm making a CSS theme for my wiki (based on Vector), but I'm having trouble finding relevant documentation. Are there any recommended resources for CSS theme creation? [18:16:43] [2/2] I'm mainly having trouble finding what variables I can/need to change to get what I want (e.g. how do I change the search bar's colour) [18:17:10] hey [18:17:18] i cant find my wiki and i just got time to work on it [18:17:37] https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets/Color [18:17:46] i didnt even get a notif it was deleted [18:17:50] or a warning [18:18:02] What is the name of your wiki [18:18:08] AirdorfGames [18:19:02] https://airdorfgames.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [18:19:20] thanks for future reference how am I suppose to find it [18:21:39] https://wikistats.wmcloud.org/display.php?t=mh&s=ausers_desc [18:21:52] It now was on Page 16 [18:22:06] (number 793) [18:22:42] or just save it in your browser as airdorfgames.miraheze.org [18:28:23] Thanks! But I was more looking for what selectors are used to define the theme, basically what I need to write before the {brackets}, if that's a thing. For instance, on Vector at least, it is `.vector-header-container .mw-header` that defines the top bar's appearance. how do I find this kind of information? [18:32:20] [1/4] there's no documentations ot list of classes/ids/selectors [18:32:20] [2/4] there are some elements same across all skins, but then skins themselves differ a lot [18:32:21] [3/4] we poke around the page w/ element inspector and see what sticks lol [18:32:21] [4/4] you can check other stylized wikis for reference tho [18:33:58] Alright, thanks! Do you know of any heavily stylized wiki themes? I've been following [TNOPedia's]() which is quite cool. [18:35:19] Plenty [18:35:31] Pizza tower, phighting, pressure [18:35:40] any wiki on wiki.gg, especially Terraria Wiki - very heavily modified [18:35:43] Gigantic, Softcell, all of Legroom’s other wikis [18:36:07] my Vector modifications are rather simple [18:37:06] [1/2] something isn't right ... [18:37:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304877442388725860/IMG_20241109_213635.jpg?ex=6730fd51&is=672fabd1&hm=c52383be39a7c8e130c5b690718c1d8c827469a32101046e15226edb5e88bd00& [18:37:16] if we talk legacy Vector [18:37:53] [1/2] Well, here's what the main page looks like for me [18:37:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1304877642012561489/image.png?ex=6730fd81&is=672fac01&hm=d4f24a0925f019e4891f1ffcc4a1f68dd3ba0d5ebbfbe9ffea602bb8ca6e8520& [18:39:08] this looks like Vector 2022 [18:39:44] it's a newer version of Vector, which for some reason can use CSS for legacy version [18:40:05] so Vector.css and Vector-2022.css [18:40:28] wiki.gg uses only legacy Vector [18:40:37] Right, yeah it does look all wrong when I switch to the 2010 Vector, I didn't know that [18:40:37] Miraheze default skin is 2022 [18:41:42] So if I want to do like this, I should do Vector-2022.css and not Vector.css, is that it? [18:42:07] [1/2] here's mine [18:42:08] [2/2] [18:42:19] yeah [18:45:01] Good to know. Thanks again for the help, that's exactly what I needed [18:56:41] :wahoo1: ough [18:57:30] is there a size requirement for stuff like banner images [19:56:59] Vector 2022 uses 2010's Vector CSS [20:09:45] <.guardianx., replying to anonymek> [1/3] this was pretty helpful BTW: [20:09:45] <.guardianx., replying to anonymek> [2/3] https://www.hostknox.com/knowledgebase/680/How-to-make-CSS-modifications-in-MediaWiki.html [20:09:45] <.guardianx., replying to anonymek> [3/3] Has links on the bottom that showcase some of the MediaWiki skins. [20:10:16] <.guardianx.> I dunno if there is something else out there that is better, thats just what I found in my search for info [20:52:36] [1/2] :emoji4784: me looking to see if i can transport the fandom wiki [20:52:37] [2/2] the file is too large. [20:52:41] ah [20:54:02] <.guardianx.> [1/2] I'll be real, the one feature I really want from Fandom is that interactable map that you can create custom maps from easily LOL [20:54:02] <.guardianx.> [2/2] I thought Datamaps would be that and who knows, it may, but atm it's not there. [20:56:56] [1/5] dumb question would it be off topic if I did this [20:56:57] [2/5] So I'm covering all the games this guy has made, commenting on gameplay and the characters [20:56:57] [3/5] However, most of his games are short demo kind of games. [20:56:57] [4/5] But he made one series with extensive lore, characters, and gameplay. [20:56:58] [5/5] Is it ok if the wiki has more content targeted around that series since its the one with the most content? [20:59:16] definitely [20:59:29] definitely would be off topic or [21:02:17] Definitely fine, IMO [21:02:28] the scope isnt changing, its just one thing has more content to cover [21:03:04] alright cool because I was thinking of it like the megaten wiki where it has more persona and smt content than the other games on the wiki [21:03:16] 👍 thank you [21:43:24] @enews sorry if you took it that way, i only called you a fool facetiously [23:14:46] General wiki help question: Is there a code that allows you to have a section collapsed by default? [23:23:57] Like a collapable section or mobile frontend [23:24:25] section [23:24:43] you can hide a section, but I want a section to be hidden by default when you first open the page [23:25:06] Because its less relevant to the overall content, and is more there for people interested in being completionists [23:49:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Collapsible_elements#With_specified_initial_state is what you're looking for [23:50:21] though you'll have to use an actual HTML tag (div or h) to do this