[01:08:04] _suddenly gets the thought `Pride comes before the fall!` 😉_ [01:09:09] and wisdom is with the modest ones \;) [01:11:00] Wisdom is learning the knowledge, and applying it accordingly [01:13:28] lots to learn from ancient poets \:P [01:57:41] And lots of quotes [02:14:20] this works for 99% of my css, but idk how to get my background image to show up, anybody have any clue how to fix that? [sorry if there is an obvious answer here, i am currently very tired lmao] [02:41:34] figured it out! [02:56:26] since I generally only come here when the servers go out I wanted to just check in to say that i've had 0 problems running my wiki lately, good job everyone [02:58:42] sloveneanon: thank you [02:59:06] someone should make a X days since last 5XX wave sign [03:03:49] This is a very dumb question but what happened to the wikitide wikis that didnt do anything when the merger happened (like I didnt)? I would expect for it to have been deleted for inactivity by now anyways but I cant find any sort of info on that [03:04:47] qxji: should be deleted by now, but I believe we should have backups somewhere if you'd like to restore(CC: agentisai:) [03:05:22] [[Phorge]] would be the place to file a task to investigate if we have [03:05:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [03:06:15] cosmicalpha: remind me again why we're not relaying wm-bot or the discord side, gets annoying [03:07:05] We do not have backups of the old WikiTide wikis unfortunately. [03:07:09] I dont think the interest and audience is there anyways but I have to make a CV tomorrow for a job application and was like ohhhhhh I did have this wiki project I left falling because of real life stress and noone being interested in it anymore [03:07:20] Actually there is no reason. We can [03:07:35] Thats what I expected really but thank you for the answer :) [03:09:06] can /action work please [03:09:15] * PixDeVl is annoyed with IRC commands [03:09:23] so /me works [03:09:55] Yep [03:09:59] how do we not have backups though thats a bit yikes [03:10:12] i think i went down this before though [03:10:35] think agent mentioned back in early o the year [03:10:42] sometime before april [03:12:43] I mean thats totally understandable the people making the wikis clearly werent interested anymore (like I wasnt because of stress and overall different things to do) and a merger is like stressful enough to do with the people that did do the stuff so like I am thankful enough for projects like this to exist at all [03:12:52] this sentence was a mess [03:13:09] what I meant to say was thank you people for doing awesomeness [03:35:53] oof, ManageWiki is currently not available [03:36:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306100282320752690/image.png?ex=6735702d&is=67341ead&hm=5c6c96bcd2ba5d60b3d37f24b1e64f678b37f3f98a7fae200251fd6ca817cc6d& [03:36:21] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12877 [03:38:37] Can confirm this happens on my wiki, so all is probably the correct assumption [03:39:17] oh shit [03:39:46] This is the worst kind of issue. [03:39:57] shir [03:39:59] shit [03:40:30] I think I really screwed something up. [03:41:21] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1306088697501847612 might potentially be related? I noticed it at about the same time, but I don’t know enough about how things work on your backend to guess beyond that. [03:52:02] It’s not but no worries [03:52:09] We’ll fix this real soon [03:52:16] is there a good channel in this server for asking ppl for help? [03:52:41] like Im tryna get help with some css stuff so my wiki can look nice lol [03:52:48] Im terrible at css and html XD [03:53:20] o hey I know some of the people here lol [03:53:31] [1/2] why is this appearing here when I haven't even typed in a wiki yet [03:53:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306104633336397864/Screenshot_2024-11-13_at_03.53.20.png?ex=6735743a&is=673422ba&hm=b67ce3c9d2a1888ec9331997f0ff3f356528535a4cef8276fbea1b0b17a03d6e& [03:53:34] that notice is beyond annoying [03:53:57] have u made an account? [03:54:16] #support [04:03:15] the relay and other bots on bots171 got k-lined... [04:52:51] For IRC too since I also broke the relay (whoops): [04:52:55] So what happened was my fault, I accidentally executed a delete query on the database when I should have executed a select query. We will be restoring a backup from two days ago and then rebuilding the last two days worth of data using our logs we have. We hope to have no permanent data loss at all. [04:53:46] it may or may not work intermittently [04:54:04] (the relay) [05:25:24] yay relay is back [05:41:53] I have regenerated all the data from the past 2 days from our logs now as well. I hope it all worked properly without any loss. [05:47:15] what happened? [05:47:50] hm my wiki never was down [05:48:37] BlankEclair: Me accidentally deleting global tables and having to restore using a backup from 2 days ago then using binlogs to regenerate the data from the last 2 days. [05:48:48] ... [05:48:50] oh [05:49:00] avghelper: this was probably the login problem you faced: ^ [05:49:57] It was I just did it really quickly, but there was no way for a wiki to be up when I completly dropped the global database not even with cache. But I did recreate it and did the rest in the background so really things were only fully down for around 30 seconds. [05:50:28] BlankEclair: yep, seems like it :P [05:50:42] Can you login now? [05:50:52] Yep! All good [05:50:58] Awesome [05:51:16] I'm getting a "No active login attempt is in progress for your session." [05:51:35] Maybe we need to invalidate sessions [05:51:53] My session was probably invalidated when I tried to reset my password [05:52:12] (the reset failed due to the above issue, but the old password works now lol) [05:53:10] Hey yeah it probably failed because the account didn't even exist in the database for a bit so it had nothing to reset. [05:53:27] ah [05:53:57] Yep, it gave me a "The supplied credentials cannot be changed, as nothing would use them." error after I entered the new password [05:54:39] I figured at that point that something must've gone very wrong lol [05:59:17] Yep [06:05:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306137754790264882/image0.jpg?ex=67359313&is=67344193&hm=358cb99d0b74d8f2ec2540f473dd8049e2aebda03d7b8069b0d20b257c61fdaa& [06:05:34] Yeah [06:06:35] I rebooted db171 as another quick emergency thing as I realized I still had something running that wouldn't cancel and may have caused the same issues again. I apologize once again. [06:06:51] oh [06:06:56] Wikis are down [06:07:12] They should be back now [06:07:48] They are [06:08:59] I apologize again but that should mark the end of this incident. Please ping me if wikis recieve something like MissingWikiError etc... [06:09:16] CA: 'oopsie! all data gone!' [06:09:34] Exactly what happened [06:29:29] They un-oopsed the data, with technical proficiency and a group effort on unfuckery-expertise [06:31:38] ...it may now be clear why it's a bad idea for me to not get an appropriate number of sleep-hours. [06:36:45] Aight [07:05:37] THIS IS STILL HAPPENING TO ME [07:18:40] [1/2] Also still getting this, [07:18:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306156261225791550/OcbK78F.png?ex=6735a44f&is=673452cf&hm=b6cbc486d4a490cd9f31d5b5133ca4a26298fed8e30b7888ae281857fdba8bba& [07:18:55] hmm [07:19:08] Will take a look [07:19:30] But it is getting late for me. [07:20:11] When did you create your account? [07:21:03] My verification email is from June 3rd [07:21:18] Then the data definitely exists [07:21:28] Can you login from login.miraheze.org? [07:22:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306157198778302504/ix1jn5W.png?ex=6735a52f&is=673453af&hm=c8f55d8ebccee33949d803f73112f797c7ba75f6f439ba79e46dc7596667a433& [07:22:36] hmm [07:28:36] @lunarcrawlarr try again on login.miraheze.org [07:30:17] Works now, im logged in. [07:30:20] Thanks [07:30:29] Np [07:30:44] Thanks MacFan4000 [07:30:45] Now /me needs to go to bed cause 2AM [07:31:02] Also night [08:36:48] Hey, is there a way to sort the 'wanted pages' list by 'recently redlinked for the first time'? [08:39:56] Also, is there a way to sort of 'archive' a page? I made some pages recently that thinking more about it might not quite meet out coverage standards, but they're kind of edge cases, so I feel like it would be cool to archive them until further discussions can help us land on one side or the other. [08:52:46] doubtful [08:53:16] I can only suggest to make a custom namespace and move these pages in there [09:21:38] ooh, good idea - thanks! [09:34:32] I dunno if this is too much to ask, but can I get someone to make an infobox for me? I have tried asking for help on reddit, but I think the guy helping me didn't really know what he was doing either cause no matter what I do I can't seem to hide the brackets if the parameters are empty https://thewikitrail.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_scenario [09:36:24] maybe make if statements? [09:38:08] That doesnt seem to work for some reason. [09:41:28] [1/3] I added the if statement, but the 'Created by' bit is still there. [09:41:29] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306192199725355033/image.png?ex=6735c5c8&is=67347448&hm=a4b5e84e26c6ffef97576c05bd22e646607f27d4bfa15856a83e45b182a9e195& [09:41:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306192200295649350/image.png?ex=6735c5c8&is=67347448&hm=da95f7d435e13c2b52abf7d52d768abbd6b0b0b775299fb869d889a15d214096& [09:41:47] Like, I have no clue what I am doing. [09:46:51] [1/2] Very minor question, but does anyone know what causes link previews to show a period instead of the actual text? [09:46:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306193554321969162/Screenshot_2024-11-13_014609.png?ex=6735c70b&is=6734758b&hm=b415f3fa32117738f5d5d001884a63b1924232199617f0cfd3d607bc1af4bc25& [09:47:34] [1/2] For context this is what it typically would show [09:47:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306193734370857021/Screenshot_2024-11-13_014710.png?ex=6735c736&is=673475b6&hm=9316e3826507fe99202686071c45e9482fe0d3d153578ae51ec049a99ceb6f33& [10:02:15] TextExtract extension + some SEO settings (in Additional settings admin sidebar) or manually added descriptions w/ [[mw:Extension:WikiSEO]] code [10:02:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiSEO [10:02:16]

[10:03:46] [1/3] you need to wrap the entire table row in #if, not just place for parameter [10:03:47] [2/3] but you'll have to use `{{!}}` inside #if because, because shit will be broken otherwise [10:03:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! [10:03:47] [3/3] also turn on syntax highlight, marker button [10:04:25] hmm I don't think this is right bot behaviour ^ [10:29:40] ohhh now I remember why wm-bot was on the ignore list for the relay before lol [10:32:34] is it possible to change the project namespace to Meta [10:32:45] my wiki name is kinda long and has spaces in it [10:33:35] aside from aliases [10:34:58] shouharuka: yeah [10:35:36] you should be able to change $wgMetaNamespace in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces/4 [10:35:47] ooh [10:35:48] thanks [10:36:32] the default mediawiki web installer offers Project as the name for the project namespace [10:36:38] so that's another thing you can set it to :p [12:01:15] Hello, I was wondering what happened to https://osca.avid.wiki because it shows that the wiki is not found [12:21:54] something's loading, might be a glitch [13:20:19] its like this on my end [13:20:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306247281401532546/image.png?ex=6735f914&is=6734a794&hm=71b0f44acdda6fe01beec52cb7b85ba436261519e779a2f76ea2595416ed1d1d& [13:26:29] No [13:36:50] [1/2] an editor on our wiki is having this problem. I saw earlier somebody suggested logging in from login.miraheze.org but that didnt work for them [they tried both logging in and resetting password from there] [13:36:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306251431850016848/image.jpeg?ex=6735fcf2&is=6734ab72&hm=ee49927e9b71753215d5215e20d26bf7ecc5083cae41e8a07fbafaf64e6141b5& [13:45:25] [1/2] yeah same, ive cleared cookies multiple times and it stil happends [13:45:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306253592109387926/image.png?ex=6735fef5&is=6734ad75&hm=775f178facdad2138d80e5d8d8338402c456a9636747fd1c03ee97ac3b5862fb& [13:57:17] @cosmicalpha has been working on this. Also see the announcement, earlier today [14:00:26] yea saw the announcement, just wasn't sure if this part was supposed to be fixed or not yet bc of the most recent message in there. ill tell the editor that its being worked on though [14:01:09] It should be fixed [14:01:22] That's kinda bad [14:01:25] MacFan4000: ^ [14:01:31] Perhaps, it needs a kick? [14:01:42] Ye I hope it's just that [14:04:59] Do provide your wiki [14:08:47] https://vylet.wiki/Vylet_Pony_Wiki [14:10:30] [1/2] any reason for these many edit symbols appearing? They seem to clutter up the wiki and I've no idea how to get rid of them [14:10:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306259903769219292/image.png?ex=673604d6&is=6734b356&hm=21318256e596fb58dba60bc0466ee80d6f563c0a4ec41e59451729c6a66be43e& [14:10:50] Link to your wiki? [14:11:39] right sorry .. https://blacksouls.miraheze.org/wiki/Leaf [14:11:41] Can you try to login on [[login:]]? [14:11:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/login: [14:11:42]

[14:12:38] i already got the editor to try logging in from there but it didnt work for them [14:14:16] @cosmicalpha Could you check this out when you have time? [14:14:32] Some still experience the same problem [14:16:38] @figoarto fixed [14:17:51] what is their username? [14:19:46] What are their usernames? [14:20:02] @idrinklisterine please provide your wiki username as well [14:20:23] thanks [14:22:24] PineYard [14:25:42] @dexterfam2010 I just ran a script that should hopefully have fixed it [14:26:24] alright thank you! [15:11:01] How do I tell why my wiki was deleted? [15:12:13] @oceanwavez link? [15:18:14] idrinklisterine [15:18:56] [1/2] I’m actually not even sure if it was really deleted, since now for some reason it’s showing it’s there, but here: [15:18:56] [2/2] https://embryology.miraheze.org/wiki/Embryology [15:20:11] whatever it was seems to have worked out [15:20:19] @oceanwavez it's probably related to the incident last night [15:20:31] which was since fixed [15:21:32] Oh ok thx [15:22:16] @ idrinklisterine I just ran a script, try now [15:37:19] their still not able to log in, they tried both our wiki and miraheze login again [16:59:41] When you hover over "Create account" you get a message that says "You are encouraged to create an account and log in; however, it is not mandatory." You can see the message on meta.miraheze.org. Where can that message be edited? [17:03:42] that's the [[MediaWiki:Tooltip-pt-createaccount]] interface message [17:03:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tooltip-pt-createaccount [17:03:43]

[17:04:40] if you pass the uselang=qqx GET param to an URL MediaWiki will tell you from which interface message a string comes from btw [17:15:31] Thank you. That works. I've used the cool qqx feature, but in this case it only returned (pt-login) on the main page. From now on, I'll also search Special:AllMessages for "tooltip". [17:55:44] @lunarcrawlerr May wanna #verify to post links [18:07:46] I was wondering how to make a forum in a miraheze wiki, like a community portal or something similar to what [the sims wiki]() has [18:12:03] [1/4] - enable DiscussionTool extension [18:12:03] [2/4] - make a custom namespace called and set its page model as discussion or something like that [18:12:03] [3/4] the result would be that all pages of that namespace, w/ Forum: prefix, will work like talk pages + extension itself provides the reply and topic functionality you see in Community Portal [18:12:04] [4/4] the main forum page can be changed to another model in its info special page [18:13:01] additionally I would hide talk page links via CSS/limit talk page editing to admins (also done in namespace settings) [18:14:36] <50_55> is it okay that the number of members, edits and pages on my wiki has dropped? no members left and I got no notifications about anything [18:15:50] <50_55> [1/2] yesterday [18:15:50] <50_55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306321644393857118/image.png?ex=67363e56&is=6734ecd6&hm=410ea862b083d13620b519277b9ba26043bc14544ad407cd9d1c4dc0def09c86& [18:15:53] <50_55> [1/2] today [18:15:53] <50_55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306321656175657033/image.png?ex=67363e59&is=6734ecd9&hm=90d7e218a9a86cdb58e4b8fb22a721f814a4a04a0bb63acfa0dbf681d91c3b67& [18:25:01] iirc it shows active editors within some period [18:25:17] idk how to describe it but maybe some threshold [18:25:45] <50_55, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> ohh I see what you mean [18:25:48] but personally I'd won't rely on these stats thta much [18:26:05] <50_55> but in the pages tab it's all pages [18:32:17] I mean the editors one [18:55:28] [1/2] how can we add a description down here? we have info in the file summary but not having an extra click there would be much nicer for the average person browsing the wiki [18:55:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1306331617949646929/Screenshot_2024-11-13_135450.png?ex=673647a0&is=6734f620&hm=ba649f0273cea519b348c53a365b57cb2fb8a742104d103f74b3306490bde799& [20:22:39] Somebody deleted my topic on the SR/M [20:25:16] [[SR/M]] [20:25:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/M [20:25:17]

[20:25:22] Oh cool [20:25:38] The reason why I didn't wanted to make another request is that I thought it would be odd for a person to own too many wikis which would be very difficult to handle [20:26:09] What topic [20:26:31] You could note that you’ve closed a previous one [20:26:58] The topic of changing the topic and scope of my wiki [20:27:17] Diff? [20:28:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Miscellaneous?oldid=442018#Changing_the_topic/scope_for_my_wiki [20:38:28]