[00:44:25] [1/2] Question, is there anyway to manually register a user and let them bypass doing the normal registration? Some blind users from my community (games for blind gamers) have voice their hatred of hCaptcha. It took about 10 minutes to get someone in, and I've been informed that sometimes the "accessibility" cookie just doesn't download properly for some browsers. [00:44:25] [2/2] If not we'll manage (we can always screen share, or try to find an auto hCaptcha solver), but was curious if there was a straight forward way around it. [00:52:34] I have a problem to log in to All The Tropes wiki; it says it is cancel due to session hujacking, even though I tried multiple times. [00:54:59] <_hyperscandev> Do you allow mx record creation if the domain is pointed to the Miraheze nameservers? [00:58:32] Uh yes believe so [00:58:50] I know one of our crats set up admin@phighting.wiki [00:59:01] <_hyperscandev> Where do I go to request it? [01:05:46] Logging in to the meta works, but not All The Tropes [01:15:12] Clear MH cache and cookies [01:27:21] I deleted all of the cookies and reloaded the page, and then I got automatically logged in without needing to fill up the form [01:35:44] What happens to all those wikis that are left abandoned for some time? [01:41:34] [[Phorge]] [01:41:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [01:41:35]

[01:42:00] They are closed and eventually deleted subject to the [[dormancy policy]] [01:42:00] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dormancy_policy [01:42:01]

[01:42:12] But we haven’t implemented the fast track yet [01:42:14] Soon [02:47:43] @xnduiwsimonphung I would also advise checking images once in a while. [02:48:25] Yeah, I have created many images myself. [02:48:45] [1/2] citizen but timeless [02:48:45] [2/2] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1293312886277406743/1307537611417714750/image0.jpg?ex=673aaacb&is=6739594b&hm=5564eccafbb5b36bd5381ac351645513bf554366bd57a4434ca2827f74072757& [02:56:42] @xnduiwsimonphung We only have like one NSFW image so far on our wiki, so hiding it is a good option. [02:57:00] Yes, made it collapsible. [03:53:09] Hello. I need to "Restrict account creation" on my wiki. Who can I contact with this request? [03:57:18] Restricting account creation, though technically doable yourself via ManageWiki, is meaningless since users can register an account on any Miraheze wiki to circumvent it; if your motive is to control who can edit your wiki, you may find it more effective to restrict editing to a particular user group instead [04:30:19] You know, I've never thought about this. But if you're editing Miraheze source in another language, does the source remain in english or are there "translated" versions? [04:31:10] I imagine it'd be a fair bit tougher to edit source when you don't understand what half the words mean lol [06:03:36] Been pretty quiet since discord has died. [06:10:49] [1/2] I was so hyped to get my wiki, but I have it now and suddenly am over whelmed with choices! [06:10:50] [2/2] I started with the home page then going to make one page of each category and then get feedback from my community. But man it can be a wee overwhelming. [06:11:45] Out of curiosity, how often do new wikis get requested, then never really touched? [06:22:42] <.guardianx.> How expensive is it to run multiple DPL queries of categories and template params on a page would you say? [06:23:04] <.guardianx.> is there a better way to accomplish doing something like that? [06:23:19] [1/3] How do I enable this on my wiki? [06:23:19] [2/3] This is not present on any of my pages even after manually creating category pages. [06:23:19] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307591883760861214/image.png?ex=673add56&is=67398bd6&hm=0668f46cb1296aa295bfc8b5d33379c5f51b625d41c7c3742d2169957c852708& [06:29:39] add like [[Category:This is a category]] to your page [06:29:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:This_is_a_category [06:29:40]

[06:30:22] I see that lets me add that, but it doesn't give me the like + buttons like in the test wiki [06:30:47] cause its a gadget [06:31:49] add MediaWiki:Gadget-Hotcat.js and MediaWiki:Gadget-Hotcatcheck.js to your wiki, then copy the bulleted point of the hot cat in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition to your wiki [06:32:45] Ty! Will come back crying if it doesn't work! [06:34:00] I'm guessing I will need to enable gadgets in add ons first? [06:36:34] I sure do! [06:45:26] ah i see [06:52:27] Took me a few minutes because I kept somehow copying and pasting things in the wrong place, but got it! TYVM! Seems pretty straight forward to add gatdets now that I've done it once. Are there any other gadgets you think all new wikis should enable? [06:52:33] Or any extensions for that matter? [07:24:22] Just which wiki [07:30:12] [1/2] is there a way I can fix this weird thing that happens on mobile? :m8Dead_SkyITALIA: [07:30:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307608716849446972/IMG_20241117_152925.jpg?ex=673aed04&is=67399b84&hm=8783744c815454f06b1c178e64d5d0870b2742cc019316bfb11c49c33a3d3149& [07:37:33] [1/2] if you didn't set fixed widths, none [07:37:34] [2/2] in couple of seconds after page load it should add horizontal scrollbar to the table [07:39:02] yeah it eventually loads the bars but very slowly [07:40:51] [1/2] its weird since I indicated width on this one to 100% but also randomly breaks [07:40:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307611394509635585/image.png?ex=673aef82&is=67399e02&hm=0905a969571f0f73f40dc033c3979ebc594c8d18382e272e5aba4a6d6f13a7a2& [07:45:01] since all cells are already at their minimum content widths, the only to make it smaller is to create some really strange media query that will downsize icons as well + force word break in last column maybe [07:45:35] i dunno [08:27:51] [1/3] any way to disable caps sensitivity? [08:27:52] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307623225399971900/image.png?ex=673afa87&is=6739a907&hm=3674ab4c2f59a779ecad5e690d62f6610f3e00532f10533e0942076ef9e16157& [08:27:52] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307623225793974332/image.png?ex=673afa87&is=6739a907&hm=6d40bf67b004c205efc4672c57bba438fc0f637e163a0162b08771d8c26510bc& [08:53:25] Hello [08:53:27] Why don't I have an option in ManageWiki/permissions that allows me to delete a user group? [08:53:50] On other wikis this option is available, on mine it is not [09:18:17] Is there anyway to move the CommentStreams button to the top of the stream from the bottom? I have it that way on one wiki, but on another it seems stuck on the bottom. [09:26:14] seems like this is an issue with multiple people as I also don't have the option even though I used to [09:26:34] the only way I've been able to delete user groups (although inconsistently) is by removing all of the permissions of said user group [09:26:42] even then it might not delete it and it just sits there [09:27:08] there's an extension called SaneCase which might help with that [09:27:16] although I don't know if it applies to search results as well [09:59:21] I go through the accepted que sometimes and have seen wikis not get edited for weeks after being approved [10:00:03] When I requested my wiki I remember checking on the queue every 5–7 hours lol. [10:05:03] Yeah, it's quite unfortunate. That's why the Dormancy Policy does close wikis that are never edited earlier [10:05:15] But we don't currently have any clearer statistics as to how many never get edited [10:06:26] I'm not fully sure why that happens as users do get email notifications on approval. I guess because either it was a spontaneous idea and they no longer feel like it or they realise managing a wiki is harder than it seems [10:07:11] it's also kinda harder to reach out to them too [10:16:26] Likely. For me personally, I’ve been looking for a service like Miraheze for years. And I’ve gone through a myriad of other programs before settling on Miraheze. So in my case it was not a spontaneous idea. However, for most, I imagine it is. [10:17:59] I can’t even recall exactly how I stumbled upon Miraheze, I think from r/worldbuilding? [10:18:28] I found Miraheze through GitHub of all places. [10:19:11] That’s pretty random lol [10:19:46] Was it like in the issues section? [10:20:42] One of the Extensions made by Miraheze volunteers [10:20:54] Ohh, that makes more sense. [10:22:00] Also, how does this relay bot work? I’ve seen it done with Minecraft chats to a discord channel. But where are people messaging from that it gets relayed to the Miraheze discord. [10:28:04] I had a feeling people were coming from there [10:28:17] We used to get very few worldbuilding wikis but recently there's been _a lot_ [10:28:34] I'm glad you found us 🙂 [10:28:57] It works with https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/IRC [10:32:14] I also feel like worldbuilding has begun to enter the “mainstream” if that makes any sense? Especially with the spike in D&D and other similar games/media in the last few years. [10:33:38] Yeah definitely, before 2018 probably I would be surprised if we had almost any worldbuilding wikis [10:33:43] Originally it was a far more niche hobby. But social media has made it far more accessible and allowed many more people to learn how start and be able to share their creations. The barrier of entry is far lower. Tools like Miraheze also make it that much easier for people to document and share their work <3 [10:34:25] Yeah, though worldbuilding is definitely an area where you do have to be comitted I feel and simply having a vague idea is likely what causes some to never edit their wiki when they realize it's actually hard work [10:34:29] It sure is a hell of a lot better than google docs lol. [10:34:43] many people do actually say they're moving from google docs [10:35:03] I have a few hundred google docs myself 😅 [10:35:23] That and the notes app [10:37:51] One of the things that I find most appealing about Miraheze is how “basic” it is. A lot of modern programs have so much UI bloat, constant ads and promotions for “premium features,” or just plastering their brand everywhere (cough Fandom). Miraheze meanwhile is basically identical to Wikipedia’s UI, until you modify it yourself of course. [10:38:29] It makes each wiki feel like its own. [10:46:08] Yeah, I think it's nice that we offer basic wikis but also a lot of customization like custom extensions and skins [10:46:48] and we even have a skin called Cosmos that looks pretty similar to Fandom's skin for those who got used to that [10:46:58] A lot of people coming from Fandom like to keep the same layout style [10:47:58] [1/2] can you make it so the visual editor image adder also shows the images from the wiki you're editing instead of just wikimedia commons when you search [10:47:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307658485865119774/image.png?ex=673b1b5e&is=6739c9de&hm=78f76c15e10fe9405e0200b5ac3e37d9730d71e9ce9e64df0a64a3fc4c13f88e& [10:49:16] It’s a shame the way Fandom is. I’m part if a fairly large Fandom wiki and we’ve been having non-stop conflicts with the Fandom staff recently. It’s such a shame because we started off Independent, moved to Gamepedia, then Gamepedia was bought by Fandom. [10:49:39] Has the wiki considered moving over to us? [10:52:01] [1/2] I haven’t suggested it yet, although I’ve thought about it. I was looking through all the options. Also, the wiki is large and gets a lot of traffic. Didn’t want to put that much added stress on whatever Miraheze’s current server-conditions are if there was an alternative. Was looking into Weird Gloop which hosts the new Minecraft Wiki. I’d have to talk with the mods though (I know [10:52:01] [2/2] most of them are fed up with Fandom but see no alternative). [10:53:45] Half the Fandom editors have bailed already, either going to the Independent Wiki (which is ran by a terrible individual and has far worse QC) or just straight up retired I presume. [11:00:23] Weird Gloop is definitely more selective than us but if they accept you it could be an interesting option [11:00:47] As for us, we plan on upgrading our servers soon so we could still be an option even with a lot of traffic [11:02:33] Guess there’s no harm asking and (I assume) you have a general bearing on how many pages is “a lot.” But in the grand scheme of things how substantial is ~60k pages. [11:06:44] We've definitely got at least a few wikis with more than that, so asking definitely should be fine [11:07:45] One of the larger concerns I’ve seen is the dreaded algorithm. Not only would Fandom need to be beaten, but other Independent Wikis seeking the throne of being #1. [11:08:41] Although I personally don’t think it’d be too hard to beat the other Independent Wikis with the proper advertising and the backing of the legitimate wiki. [11:46:19] i've used a bunch of different sites and miraheze has been by far my favourite [11:52:10] excellent [11:58:05] i stumbled upon miraheze after discovering that i did not like the idea of running a mediawiki instance myself [12:01:17] <_arawynn> I came across it while looking for a place to host a private world building wiki becauce I didn't like the thought of putting it all in some Word document^^the friend I'm building the world with is kind of shy about sharing what we created so the private part was quite important [12:03:54] i started with google docs and moved to obsidian but kind of wanted to host things [12:04:20] so decided to try some mediawiki instance for the next project [12:44:33] if a wiki at wikitide.org doesn’t exist you might wanna check for the corresponding name on Miraheze.org and redirect there [12:44:50] which would prevent situations such as the current state of https://commons.wikitide.org [12:47:18] maybe not something that needs to be done immediately [12:47:28] but perhaps make a Phorge task just to track it [12:47:43] is that domain necessary for much? [12:48:13] if there's a clear cut need then sure, if anything I'd like to see renamed wikis have (probably temporary) redirects [13:05:16] hii does anyone know if there's a shortcut to colour an entire column? I know there is for rows but idk about columns [13:05:38] same for alligning an entire column in the center (but not the entire table) [13:36:31] | colspan="2" style="background: black" | thing [13:36:41] | style="text-align:center" | thing [13:41:12] doesnt this colour just 2 cells [13:41:16] and not the _entire_ column [13:44:18] [1/9] youd have to do it with css [13:44:18] [2/9] ``` [13:44:19] [3/9] .customtable td:nth-child(1) { [13:44:19] [4/9] background:red; / makes the first column red / [13:44:19] [5/9] } [13:44:19] [6/9] .customtable td:nth-child(2) { [13:44:20] [7/9] text-align:center; / makes the 2nd column center text / [13:44:20] [8/9] } [13:44:20] [9/9] ``` [13:46:24] i have never heard on css in miraheze [13:46:51] well youve heard of it now [13:47:06] do i need to open something specific [13:49:16] [1/9] couple options [13:49:16] [2/9] 1. put it in mediawiki:common.css if u think ur going to use this exact table styling often [13:49:17] [3/9] 2. enable the CSS extension and put it on the page where youre using this table with [13:49:17] [4/9] ``` [13:49:17] [5/9] {{#css: [13:49:18] [6/9] .customtable { etc etc [13:49:18] [7/9] ... [13:49:18] [8/9] } [13:49:18] [9/9] }}``` [13:50:03] is that code editor or [13:50:11] ? [13:50:25] (the extension) [13:50:29] is it called code editor [13:51:35] no its called CSS (very confusingly has nothing to do with the basic CSS thats already present on every wiki, the Extension:CSS just allows u to put css on content pages with that parser function `{{#css: blah blah }}`) [13:51:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23css:Template:_blah_blah_ [13:51:50] code editor already exists on every wiki [13:53:57] do i keep the stuff in between // [13:54:11] i found the function trying to get it to work rn [13:54:21] (sorry i am very baby at this i have never used this) [13:54:36] [1/2] u can keep it [13:54:36] [2/2] whatever is between /* is a comment and doesnt affect the code [13:56:48] [1/2] something like this then> [13:56:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307706009556488274/a8181cf452a78beb79e909d1225d5f14.png?ex=673b47a0&is=6739f620&hm=bc4cef056470c37337894f51c0bb1629339555a538eb3b656ac3a5482d359f35& [13:58:01] it doesnt work am i missing smth? [13:58:20] i alr fixed that the 4th should be 6 [13:58:38] does it go outside the table code or within? [13:58:42] add the class customtable to the table [13:59:06] `{| class="customtable"` at the starting bracket of the table [13:59:39] vb fgdoeqwkf [13:59:45] okay that fixed a bunch and broke a bunch [14:00:05] was there another class there already? [14:00:08] yes [14:00:10] u can put multiple classes [14:00:17] class="wikitable customtable" [14:00:19] the sortable class died [14:00:20] a space between each thing [14:01:00] o [14:01:17] I like your funny words magic man [14:01:47] Anyway that worked! Thank you so much [14:16:24] [1/4] How do I use userboxes on the login wiki? [14:16:24] [2/4] When I used a userbox from the Meta wiki it just shows this [14:16:24] [3/4] I thought they were connected to each other [14:16:25] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1307710937117098095/Screenshot_20241117_141604_Brave.jpg?ex=673b4c37&is=6739fab7&hm=22b4c907a51018ebdfdafe10623af8f5345402e191534d16556f43f9874532f1& [14:17:18] nope, split up, meta tends to have more traffic for that thus a bit more userbox development, and nobody really thinks of matching it up with login [14:17:24] should be fine to port them over for that purpose [14:17:40] How to port? [14:17:51] would have to move the template from meta to login [14:18:15] I barely even understand what your saying... too technical [14:18:15] export then import would be the proper way, copy with attribution in the save would probably be fine imo [14:18:29] frankly, you will need to learn a good portion of it in order to operate a wiki [14:18:40] I have someone helping me [14:18:43] I just write [14:19:01] but to put it differently, copying the template page from meta to login should work, just be clear that it came from meta [14:19:08] Alr [14:19:19] I don't think that one is a rabbit hole, some templates can be which is why you should never do that with wikipedia templates [14:19:24] I guess I'll just screenshot and upload them is that allowed if I state its from Meta? [14:19:34] there is no need to screenshot [14:19:42] Easier if I do that tho [14:19:50] you can visit that template page on meta and then copy from there to login [14:19:56] Can you show how [14:20:00]