[00:03:11] Next stupid question. I remember having to agree to some "code of conduct" type of stuff when I requested my wiki, but when I look through the web page at mereaheze.org, I can't find it again. I don't THINK I'm violating it, but I just want a better look [00:05:16] [[Code of Conduct]] [00:05:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct [00:05:17]

[00:05:26] Oops [00:05:29] thanks [00:05:48] That should be [[Global Conduct Policy]] for on wiki. The Miraheze Spaces one applies to discord and other spaces [00:05:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_Conduct_Policy [00:05:49]

[00:06:10] thanks again [00:11:24] NEXT! stupid question. As I've been editing, I'm frequently creating pages as I go. And I put references to pages that I plan to write on them. [00:12:26] Two weird things are happing. When I actually write that next page, the previous page doesn't know it got written (maybe it's cached by browser, so I sorta understand). If change something in the first page, and update it, it usually figures it out. But not aways. [00:13:19] But worse, I've got a lot pages, where If I search for them in the search bar by their exact name, it'll say, nope, doesn't exist. But if I cut and paste it into the the URL, up it pops. [00:13:56] And actually 3rd, there's a list somewheres for orphaned pages, and it's pretty way out of date. [00:14:20] Now I'm still writing a lot every day. over 1000 changes in the last week! I kid you not. [00:14:35] Anyways, I do get the back-up tool going every night. [00:14:53] But is there any bot that can go through and help it synchronize all of it's information? [00:15:26] No [00:15:34] No such thing as a stupid question [00:16:14] That’s the cache yeah. You can click the purge button to refrsg it [00:16:34] Those special pages are updated periodically [00:16:54] Wow, more then I have on meta lol [00:17:43] Also more than I have on meta! (12 edits) [01:13:53] [1/4] Miraheze mfs choosing MediaWiki skins [01:13:54] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311137891128442880/cosmos-guide.jpg?ex=6747c3d1&is=67467251&hm=f5b9739f22f7e9b87f607cfee62958aa32c0e730be15255f0b49f6ae26d21fc4& [01:13:54] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311137891946336348/OIP_6.jpg?ex=6747c3d1&is=67467251&hm=61bb80e7edab52d3ede6ef0afb189ae1ad466794e9788127dc8672b58f72eeb8& [01:13:54] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311137892286070805/464243456.png?ex=6747c3d1&is=67467251&hm=82fa528c8fb73fbc7756405f360139e9712a81635d8ab2d8ce8d2380eba25cb8& [01:16:13] Hoping someone gets the joke [01:19:18] The last one is on the Bose [01:19:20] Nose* [01:20:42] I mean I just searched for the first image for those skins [01:21:00] So yea I think it would be [01:25:18] citizen is the best and you cant lie... [01:26:17] I mean citizen has a nice design but try to count hiw many times it's used [01:26:25] https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267 [01:27:25] Like I can recognize Citizen just by looking at a wiki [01:30:18] Honestly I'm not gonna cap to y'all, I don't blame you, if it wasn't for me heavily theming Monobook and Refreshed, I would definitely use Citizen [01:34:29] [1/2] can you recognize citizen other than the sidebar then [01:34:29] [2/2] https://utg.miraheze.org [01:35:31] [1/2] The bottom bar [01:35:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311143333988536414/Screenshot_20241126_173510.jpg?ex=6747c8e2&is=67467762&hm=64a78a29f9b5c1db44db865a41c1aeb4acd623a74fbb0b3fad1ff9be5a1acf33& [01:36:00] Ya see how there is other buttons and text you can add yourself [01:39:45] [1/6] Hi, [01:39:45] [2/6] Is there a way to make a template where, when invoked, it [01:39:45] [3/6] Adds the current page to Category X, and* [01:39:46] [4/6] * Adds Category X to Category Y? [01:39:46] [5/6] I can't figure out a way to do it because it would require a template to modify a different page. Is this a thing that wiki syntax is even capable of doing? [01:39:46] [6/6] More details of what I want to do: [01:42:27] [1/9] When there's a new character in the comic my wiki is about, I need to [01:42:28] [2/9] * List in the article for a chapter that the character appears [01:42:28] [3/9] * Include the chapter article in `Category: Example New Character appearances` [01:42:28] [4/9] * Include `Category: Example New Character appearances` in `Category:Example New Character` [01:42:29] [5/9] * Include `Category: Example New Character appearances` in `Category:Chapters by character appearances` [01:42:29] [6/9] I have a very simple template which does the first two steps simultaneously [01:42:29] [7/9] https://pandorastale.wiki/wiki/Template:A [01:42:30] [8/9] But I don't know how to automate the third and fourth step. [01:42:30] [9/9] The hard part seems to be that I want to invoke a template in one article and have it modify a different page. I haven't found any wiki functions that can do that. [01:44:01] stars changing it..,,,,,.... [01:47:26] That's insane wtf [01:59:36] Heading home from it now lol [01:59:49] Was also a very cool coordinator of the indie wiki community [01:59:58] Nice to meet him IRL [02:01:00] https://tenor.com/view/me-when-knee-surgery-is-tommarow-grinch-blue-grinch-me-when-knee-surgery-is-tommarow-blue-grinch-gif-986745877113228535 [02:16:16] as far as im aware theres no way to do something like this but i could be wrong [02:19:25] As an alternative, is there a way to edit wiki pages from a shell script on my desktop? That would probably make it possible to automate. [02:20:01] there is an API but its not the easiest thing in the world to use - you may be interested in the tool AutoWikiBrowser, it may be able to help you automate parts of this [02:20:40] otherwise you can find your wikis API documentation at /w/api.php (ie. ) [02:23:25] if only i was into most of this stuff [02:23:37] i only made a wikipedia account to add someone name to movie and [02:23:38] thats it [02:23:48] after that i stopped using my wikipedia account [02:23:49] 💀 [02:31:46] Is there a tutorial for how to enable AWB (or JavascripWikiBrowser which is probably what I'd actually want to use) on my wiki? The tutorial pages on Wikipedia all seem to start from the assumption that you are on Wikipedia. [02:34:19] [1/5] Following the "installation" guide here [02:34:19] [2/5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joeytje50/JWB#Installation [02:34:20] [3/5] I tried pasting the code onto my JS page [02:34:20] [4/5] https://pandorastale.wiki/wiki/User:183231bcb/common.js [02:34:20] [5/5] Then I went to Project:AutoWikiBrowser/script [02:34:23] But the page is blank. [02:34:27] uhhh [02:34:36] im not sure about JWB sorry, its a seperate app to AWB [02:35:33] Okay, then how do I get started with AWB? The guide on Wikipedia also seems to only explain how to use it on Wikipedia. [02:35:37] it does work on my wiki though [02:35:53] for AWB, you simply download it and when setting it up, theres a little interface to log in you gain by double clicking in the bottom right [02:36:10] when adding a wiki, you insert miraheze as a 'custom' wiki and write your wikis script path, which is /w/ [02:36:21] i.e. phightingwikis is `https://phighting.wiki/w/` [02:36:28] you should then just be able to log in and edit [02:37:22] AWB is a complicated program and its UX is kind of abysmal so def read through all the docs to get a concept [02:37:36] but AWB in general works by creating lists of pages to edit and then being given edits to run on all of them [02:39:27] I just found ExtensionAutoCreatePage which might be able to do what I want with some fuss.... [03:47:04] [1/2] table goes over the tools tab lol [03:47:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311176440586436670/image.png?ex=6747e7b7&is=67469637&hm=0aeead0095721028e342069fe7377dbc80a730f8483d9e407c50effeab28a369& [03:55:27] Yeah, known goofiness when one of the entries decides they need the absolutely longest name and subdomain [04:05:15] kingilikesminecraftcountrieswiki is to blame [04:05:49] i dont really understand why people don't shortern that to an acronym [04:06:26] the wiki i've requested was 4 words long and i turned it into an acronym for the url lol [04:12:47] is it possible to see real-time changes of templates/modules? i kind of dont want to see the changes just by confirming changes everytime [04:19:56] [1/3] To some extend, simple templates can be viewed working by clicking "Show preview" [04:19:56] [2/3] But if there is an tag, you can't. Some templates need modules or css, and that complicates it even more. [04:19:56] [3/3] So it depends on what template you want to test/adapt/get working. [05:03:31] [1/2] what's with the recent popularity of miraheze? [05:03:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311195681527955518/image.png?ex=6747f9a3&is=6746a823&hm=d3682dad0879ddfa1d39d186933de704d22958c711fb6508495368cc15155fd9& [05:04:53] i found Miraheze through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_hosting_service#Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services, not too sure where others are finding it from [05:09:44] roblox wikis moving(?) [05:10:24] they are? what has fandom done this time oh dear [05:26:40] [1/2] The Mossbag video on youtube was part of a major prompting for an active seeking of 'hosts that aren't fandom': [05:26:41] [2/2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfuA_UAz3I [05:27:55] From there, popularity breeds popularity and fandom has continued to crack down on non-optimal/duplicative fandoms, so as notable host of next resort, we've absolutely ballooned in requests with that 1-2 punch [05:28:12] ohhh nice [05:28:30] good to see more and more people moving from fandom [05:29:53] Good problem to have, and though our current hardware is mostly keeping up with it, definitely means that we need to adjust our long-term projections [05:30:55] Our next soon-to-arrive fundraiser should put us right back on track for long-term sustainability, should all go well. [05:32:51] I hope so, I read a little bit about the scare Miraheze had in 2023, its good to see all is going well now [05:34:09] 100%, it's hard to contend with a sudden 10x in demand, but our volunteers are meeting the moment thus far. [05:50:22] Glad I requested my wiki when I did then, I'd rather wait 5 days than 5 weeks [05:50:35] assuming this growth continues ofc [05:50:49] something would be done before it gets to that point [05:53:19] for us i think its because lots of people wanted us to move + the usual ads [05:54:49] i tried to make the mh wiki look similar tothe fandom wiki for editors moving to miraheze but some people unfortunately insist on using fandom [05:54:52] 🤕 [06:47:28] [1/2] > Display title "grah" was ignored since it is not equivalent to the page's actual title. [06:47:28] [2/2] what does rhis mean [07:36:09] Exactly what it says [07:36:21] Display title by default only allows you to change the case [07:36:35] You can turn it off [07:54:29] ah [08:26:03] Does the article counter ever get recached? I'm experiencing a weird side effect with it and i'm not sure how concerned to be, i can move this to #support if it seems serious [08:29:12] A while back, we removed Extension:Translate, which moved hundreds of translation fragments from namespace 1198 to `Broken/Special:Badtitle/NS1198:` [08:29:45] Today, i was told to run Extension:NukeDPL to bulk delete those pages [08:30:51] The page counter updated alongside the deletions, but… seemingly never updated in the first place whenever the pages got mainspaced…? [08:31:09] So now it reports that we have under 100 articles, which i have double-checked is untrue [08:31:37] Is there any way to clear this up and recalculate the count [08:31:56] Is there a way to make a bunch of pages at the same time? I have a bunch of pages with the same content (a bunch of redirects) and I wanted to know if there was a way to automate it [08:33:13] These are multiple pages leading to the same redirected pages [08:40:50] have you tried to use the createredirect extension then insert those redirecting pages to the new page [08:41:17] i've not! [08:41:32] ive just heard of the extension now :)) wil lcheck it out, thank you [09:44:39] Hey y'all, is there a way to sort 'wanted page' by most recently created redlinks? [09:57:39] [1/4] Because wikipedia editors are so annoying istg [09:57:39] [2/4] They just bully new editors fr and write whole essays on the tiniest things and have NO sense of humour [09:57:39] [3/4] My last straw was when they made the page WP:Why is BFDI not on Wikipedia? [09:57:39] [4/4] They made a whole explanation on BFDI, but then preceeded to explain why it won't get a page, but at the same time made q page for it explaining the show, then the talk page is people renting about the community and coping and seething [09:59:06] Also their pronouns policy is transphobic as they only use he/him, she/her and they/them pronouns on pages, even when the person uses only neopronouns e.g Maia Kobabe uses e/em/eir pronouns but wikipedia REFUSES to use them which is disgusting and outdated [10:01:38] Wikipedia editors just annoy me fr [10:01:55] We need more wikipedia editors who are my age, like 15/16, because we know what we doing fr [10:09:11] [1/2] > write whole essays on the tiniest things [10:09:11] [2/2] well... thats wikipedia 😭 [10:10:00] don't think so [10:10:10] ah, shame [10:11:23] Wikipedia has its standards, very strict, but some people refuse to acknowledge that re BFDI [10:12:47] immature fan base is frankly the main reason why things get sour [10:54:18] The https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateSandbox extension add a "Preview page with this template" option when editing well templates, which makes you able to put in a different page to preview to see how it would look with the changes you made [11:35:25] guys is there a way to make an image tabber for infoboxes/ [11:35:58] [1/2] like this is what a gallery looks like- [11:35:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311294444720492594/image.png?ex=6748559e&is=6747041e&hm=61d514fd8cf39da4e740d026a333fe2904d288e7f21aac5e091931e8fcd65f9f& [11:36:07] (it looks so ugly omg wtf) [11:36:27] i tried using the tabberneue extension [11:36:37] but it doesnt seem to work for this 💀 [11:37:03] i like the way fandom does image galleries for infobox, so i was kinda hoping on mirroring that for this [11:39:27] [1/2] so like [11:39:27] [2/2] have you ever thought of making the thumbnails as its own section [11:39:31] in the page [11:39:50] wdym? [11:40:05] why is thumbnails included along with icon [11:40:08] in the infobox [11:40:16] you should make it its own section in the page instead [11:40:41] ah, even then [11:40:48] is there a way to even accomplish what im going for [11:46:33] [1/2] in portable infobox? [11:46:34] [2/2] I think it would be easier to have them all layed out at the same time [11:46:59] you wouldn't have much difference w/ classic infobox + tabber [11:47:39] yeah its a portable infobox [11:47:39] or keep one image in infobox and make a normal gallery somewhere later in article [11:47:53] atp i might just go for this [11:48:03] [thumbs](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/975787871086731324.webp?size=48&name=thumbs) [11:48:13] the are this tiny? [11:48:41] [1/2] I would try to inject a table inside lol [11:48:41] [2/2] but that gonna be fancier PI coding [13:03:22] You could use [[mw:Manual:Pywikibot]] [13:03:22] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot [13:03:23]

[14:05:45] AWB [14:05:52] Auto Wiki Browser [14:06:54] actually im, not even sure if it works for miraheze [14:07:28] AWB should work if you set a custom server, but it's windows only [14:07:37] JWB may be something to consider [14:46:56] I only hardly know what BFDI even is, but the essay does make a few good points on why the series isn't notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. [14:47:18] wikipedia links are automodded in this server, but check BFDI's source assessment page. [14:49:23] I do agree on all of your other points, though - I edit wikipedia occasionally, but try not to interact with other editors as much as I can due to how radioactive they tend to be. I know WP:BOLD is one of wikipedia's foremost policies, but I'd rather not end up in an edit war because I edited one sentence of an obscure person's page. [15:37:18] Battle of Dream Island. These topics have often resulted in problems for our platform, just like Polandball wiki's. [15:38:25] [1/2] Is there a good fix for getting the icon to fit in the top left corner of Citizen? [15:38:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1311355456794660948/image.png?ex=67488e70&is=67473cf0&hm=a3b74cae0772ed9f22ffdfce9dceef18d43bfc26b4906afd70f4c4e4d273e3b4& [15:39:06] @CSS/JS Support Volunteers [15:39:24] Curtesy ping [15:49:15] Oh thanks [15:49:24] all links are modded until you #verify [15:50:04] wp:bold is easy until you invariably tire of the drama that comes from people just being bold [15:50:19] and then the bold doesn't quite match up with policy or someone's wants or whatever... [16:25:30] Is there an easier way to make a table? The mediawiki page straight up says "Don't do this it looks bad" [16:29:22]